The Left is not the enemy

The Left is often said to be the enemy. The reality is far more nuanced. The left/right spectrum is retarded because it oversimplifies things and people start to forget that the truth is more complex.

In the West, and in fact in most of the world today, the real enemy is capitalism. Think about it. The government is not communist, it's capitalist, especially in America. The characterisation of all oppositions as the 'the Left' or 'commies' is utterly wrong and misguided. Your hatred towards these groups (the first of which doesn't even really exists, and the second of which is splintered into 100 different movements) is misguided. The capitalists laugh at you - a supposedly anti-capitalist opposition targets communism and perceived 'leftism' as the enemy, rather than the capitalist status quo which perpetuates all that you oppose. Likewise, many of what you likely consider the 'Left' is in fact simply liberalism, not leftism (which is a useless term). Liberalism is to be opposed, but they are capitalist also, and simply act as decoys for you. Communists are, if anything, a potential ally. Capitalism needs to be overthrown to secure lasting change and to liberate our people.

This will be regarded with scepticism by nationalists and communists alike. But it is the best way to secure what is needed. Elements must be taken from both Communism and Nationalism to fix the current problems in the West today.

It doesn't matter what system we have, jews will always be jewing, hence why they created and spread communism.

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Anti-Semitism is not going to solve your problems. Life is more complex than that.

The problems is rich Jews, who are the biggest capitalists around, and on a lesser level, jews who agitate on some level against their host nation. Israel too should be opposed. But not all Jews have to be gassed in a race war. If you unironically want that or believe it will happen you're a sad person.

Anti-Semitism is only a small part of things anyway. Focus on capitalism, because that is fundamentally the enemy, not just Jews. And anyway, some Jews are alright.
>inb4 I get spammed by nazi autists for saying that

The problem is that Jewish identity strongly clashes with the identities of every nation and people on the planet. It's becoming the same with Christian identity. How are you going to be able to prevent mass immigration (esp in the later 21st century) when nearly the entire population believes in Christian ethics? It's hard to chip away at only the parts you want, it's much easier to destroy the whole structure and rebuild.

Regardless, Left/Right as a moral spectrum is still a useful tool for categorization, even if it's been corrupted into a tribalist battle.

Forgive me for using Sup Forums parlance but you really should know where you are before posting here.
What I mean is that the "Rich jews" or "Capitalists" or "Bourgeois" or whatever you want to call them, can and will manipulate any and every system so as to put themselves on the top. If you think you can create a new system and cast them down you are a fool. You don't even know who most of them are. They own all the wealth, force, and life blood of the entire world. If you play their game, you will lose. The russians overthrew the tsars only to be enslaved by a new elite and placed under even worse conditions. Communists fail to realize that capitalism in merely an extension of human greed, and greed will worm its way into any system. If you want to change things, you cannot fight for a revolution, at least not the kind you are thinking of. You need to tell people that they are being jewed, you need to show them who's jewing, how they're jewing them, and why they're jewing them. You can't throw these broad nebulous academic ideas at people, you need to show them the truth.

Basically, you need to be Sup Forums.

>The problem is that Jewish identity strongly clashes with the identities of every nation and people on the planet.
Very true. The Jewish Question is very perplexing and doesn't have an easy solution.
> How are you going to be able to prevent mass immigration
Have laws against it. But also efforts should be coordinated across national lines. Essentially we should steal, in part, Trotsky's idea of world revolution, but incorporate Maoist strategies regarding pragmatism - let each country tailor its approach accordingly rather than one universal method.
>it's much easier to destroy the whole structure and rebuild
This is essentially what I'm advocating, just on the Jews in particular I think 'gas the kikes race ar now' is just retarded and it's that kind of stupidity which is why anti-Semitism is seen as the interest of a fringe group of lunatics.
>Left/Right as a moral spectrum is still a useful tool for categorization
I'd disagree, because it can needlessly divide potential allies when economic concerns are more important. Normal people will always care more about economics than anything else.

Communist and their puppets are the enemy left and right are American memes

>Basically, you need to be Sup Forums.
Oh, God no.

Here's the thing though - you're essentially admitting defeat unless people people all become anti-capitalist anti-Semites. You can't expect this to happen first. Get in power, then change attitudes.

Money is the enemy. Money-made system is the enemy. Not capitalism, not the left wing, nothing else than money. The more money one has, the easier it is to make money - so naturally the richer get richer. Besides the rich there is the maintenance. If there was a system that did not require money in the economy for society to live, the money-made societal economies would destroy it (under directive from the rich) as that's the opposition of what they want. They want power and money gives power, as you can corrupt and bribe everyone anytime.

I agree, and capitalism is the system which perpetuates the love of money, which is the root of all evil.

But right wing want to keep the status quo by definition. They are the best of goyims.

>Very true. The Jewish Question is very perplexing and doesn't have an easy solution.

It does have a solution. Some would say a final solution.

>Essentially we should steal, in part, Trotsky's idea of world revolution, but incorporate Maoist strategies regarding pragmatism - let each country tailor its approach accordingly rather than one universal method.
>trotsky
>maoist
>babys first philosophy class

>This is essentially what I'm advocating, just on the Jews in particular I think 'gas the kikes race ar now' is just retarded and it's that kind of stupidity which is why anti-Semitism is seen as the interest of a fringe group of lunatics.

You must be a jew then

>Left/Right as a moral spectrum is still a useful tool for categorization

>I'd disagree, because it can needlessly divide potential allies when economic concerns are more important. Normal people will always care more about economics than anything else.

'Ive transcended the need to identify with any spectrum of politics. Every side has a poi t and taking a stand on a position is outdated and you dont see that because im smarter than you'

Gas yourself you hippie.

That's exactly what I'm trying to change. 'Right wing' is a dumb term anyway, because who does it describe? Communism and Fascism/NatSoc/other far right sensibilities should merge and recognise each other strengths and focus on the true enemy.

Yeah good luck pushing that boulder up that hill I'm sure you'll reach the top eventually.

i agree, the left as we know them are just tools of the elites to divide the populations and ultimately control them

>hurr gas the kikes race ar now if you don't 100% agree your're a jew
So you only want to LARP? Fine. You'll never get anywhere. Why would anyone want to associate with a bunch of tards who only want to moan about the Jews all the time?
>'Ive transcended the need to identify with any spectrum of politics. Every side has a poi t and taking a stand on a position is outdated and you dont see that because im smarter than you'
That's not what I said, and you know it. I'm arguing that normal people don't care about the jews, they care about economics. Proposing a radical anti-capitalist alternative will get people onside and allow us to promote socially conservative values as well.

You should neck yourself because you clearly don't want nationalism or anti-capitalism to get anywhere.

More achievable than a mass redpilling which will never come unless you have control of institutions.

This, antifa are the prime example. They have connection to the state in Europe I think.

We've been doing a good job so far. Better to redpill people in the ways you know how then fighting a (((revolution))) that will get highjacked by jews that will help them fuck us even more.

No no youre completely right. I dont want anti capitalism to get anywhere. Thats the first thing youve said that makes sense.

Let me explain it too you slowly, you communist hippie.

I have money. Im not a poor. Judging by your posts, the philosophers you mentioned, and the fact that you think anyone on here would ever talk about gassing the jews in real life leads me to believe youre either autistic, or under 20.

Which ofcourse explains why you would support communism. You have nothing to offer. So its easy to say "hey guyss lets teear down communism and shareee lets have a realll discussion." Ofcourse you want to share. You want to share in other peoples success.

Nationalism is being proud of your country and people. The left are the opposite. And you fucking communist are included in that. You approach us acting like youre not, but you are, because just like them you want to share in our success.

The only difference is the left wants me to share it with niggers and muslims. And you want me to share with nationalists.

A real nationalist doesnt need someone to share because they are already a contributing member of society.

So go get a job you faggot.

Jews are terribly afraid of revolution. Though it isn't realistic.

Go fuck yourself boomer faggot
>hurr if you just work you'll earn loadsamoney who cares about destroying the corrupt system that ensures jewish control of the west

I love how quick you communists go from "lets have a serious discussion" too crying like a fucking baby.

Im fucking 26. But keep telling yourself that "hurrr only old people have money cause they had it so easy, the systems rigged mannn".

But while we're here. Fuck the boomers too. You, the left, and the boomers are all in the same boat. If the day of the rope ever comes, youre all on the same list. Youre anti nationalists. Youre lazy.

God i fucking hate communists.

>come in autistically screeching I HATE COMMIES FUCK HAVING ARGUMENTS
>is surprised when you're told you're not welcome
You are the anti-nationalist. Instead of wanting to free your people from an oppressive system you buy into the boomer meme of 'just work hard lel' and fuck caring about your countrymen.

You arent my fucking countryman. You arent a nationalist. Youre a communist. Youve said it already. Changing communist to anti captialist doesnt make you a fucking nationalist.

You say "just work hard lel" and that proves my point that youre fucking lazy. The idea that working hard would give you money seems impossible to you. It seems laughable. Thats not me implying anything. Its word for word what you said.

I would never build a country or a government with you because your lazy and id end up having to do all the work. Id rather kick you and the jews and niggers out.

Im not welcome? Who the fuck said that? You? Im so scared. Thisnisnt reddit you faggot. You cant ban people you dont agree with. I can post all over your shitty thread all i want. And your welcome. Im improving it.

>The problems is rich Jews, who are the biggest capitalists around
you bitch and moan about oversimplifying things and then you call rich Jews "capitalists." The US is not capitalist. None of you Euro countries are capitalist. We're corporatist. There's a big fucking difference.

Of course, you are actually a communist asslicker false flagging to try to deflect righteously directed anger toward the left and the Jews.

So you're only interested in strawmanning, twisting my words, and inferring things that aren't there. I don't have time to deal with your autistic bullshit.

National communism has never been tried.

>righteously directed anger toward the left and the Jews.

Could not have said it better

>then you call rich Jews "capitalists."
They are that though.
>The US is not capitalist. None of you Euro countries are capitalist.
Get your brain checked m8
>We're corporatist.
No we're not. Corporatism hasn't been introduced in any country since Fascist Italy, and only there. You're a mong mate, I can't take you seriously.

No you cant defend your position. Theres a difference you retard.

Communists will hang. Why should I help you when you're not willing to help yourself? Hell, the total worth of your life is worth less than the lead.

>spouts nonsense
>hurr durr you can't prove me wrong BTFO haha

You clearly don't know what I actually believe but that's to be expected from an American. You really are so fucking dumb it's unreal.

Communism is the enemy and the left are their tools

This is the most retarded thing i have ever heard
>Communism, a system that has killed more goyim than all casualties combined
>Communism, which has almost always been implemented as a state system by The Jew
> Communism, which has led the way for the greatest amount of corruption in a white nation to manifest
> Communism, which states in their own Communist Manifesto they seek to do away with traditional family unit, religion, and private property
>implying the US isn't a socialist state, with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and now Obamacare (kike care), which has led our nation down the shitter, along with leftist immigration policy of subhumans, all while blaming their failures on Capitalism.
> Saying the Jewish question is "complex"
> Saying "the reality is far more nuanced" and then saying we should operate under the most degenerate and pervasive economic/cultural system imaginable

The Third Position is the best position. And make no mistake Kike, when the time comes, you and your entire race will pay for what you have done to not only my country, but to earth entirely. The Jewish Question is simple to answer, which means exterminating you rat fucks off the face of this planet, now stop shitting up my board and let me shitpost in peace.

I agree in theory but how many leftists are there that would agree with this that do not already identify as Nazbols or Strasserists?

Marxism invented the concept of globalism you fucking retard

>The left/right spectrum is retarded because it oversimplifies things

Leftists always support "self-determination"and "indigenous culture"when those things can be positioned against a state or culture the left is trying to undermine. But they don't ever honor their promises to those people when they get power . same as minorities in USA are used by the left, national minorities in the USSR didn't get their promised self determination. And this IS absolutely because of the left and the basis of their philosophy which does not honor any specificity of culture or people for its own sake. They are universalists. When any culture wants to remain free from the left instead of the right, it becomes "regressive"instead of a "force of liberation"

>if you hate commies it must mean you like capatalism
Gas yourself kike

Right, you believe that everyone should have to work hard. I can respect that, but you do know you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. You want me to work harder, for less, to fund a totalitarian regime in which private property and any reward for my work is null. Yeah, sure, just don't be suprised when you get shot for a can of beans.

>But not all Jews have to be gassed in a race war.
Wrong

Becouse of the democratic government structure, there cannot be a communist party, becouse you need funding, a lot of it, a quantity a worker could not pay.

left and right both believe society and the state can be victims of individuals, and never the other way around.
this is called romanticism, which was a reaction against the enlightenment
what humanities best accomplishments have been expressed through is the culture of the enlightenment, spread information, pursue creative thought informed with experiment and reason, calculate what you can calculate.
we need plato(truth) not marx(left), or Aristotle(right)

Fuck of commi fag

>Plato
>literally the first progressive

Plato is protostalin.

>n the West, and in fact in most of the world today, the real enemy is capitalism.
go kill yourself faggot

holy fuck how many times have you spammed this

He is right about that. All of the problems today have been funded by capitalists, who are above national loyalty. All of the groups against us, such as the council on foreign relations or the world economic forum, are capitalist groups.

the enemy is jews

You're retarded.

Fuck off leafkike. Jews are the enemy. Just not all of the enemy.

Communists and communist sympathizers shall be shot dead where they stand.

No, I would like to see them hang

>Capitalism isn't perfect, therefore we must replace it with the lowest performing economic structure of the civilized world.

Yeah.. Leftists may not be the enemy, but they sure as hell aren't my friends.

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