/dsg/ downward spiral general

Pinpoint an exact date of when the downward spiral for this nation started, I know i'm probably getting saged but I want to know when and how it all began.

You know what i'm taking about. The string of of bad, scandalous and corrupt politicians, the wave of faggotry and degeneracy, the losses o f failed wars agianst jihadists and communists, the recession, the inflation, the rampant kikery, media censorship,globalization, and cultural destruction. Also, the firm grip of (((them))).

Where did this all start? It seemed like a ball of yarn was sitting on a shelf, then it was knocked off and unraveled into a shitstorm.

youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

the invention of interracial porn by the jew

1913
Federal Reserve
Jews

Even watching that video, once we turn into Rhodesia, I pray foreigners save videos/pictures/media of these times. This country used to be so great.

If there is still white people in the future I want them to see what the shitskins ruined

>tolerance enables degeneracy

The assassination of Lincoln. After this, there was no feasible way for blacks to be kicked out of the country.

Shit, it all started just 89 years after the declaration was signed?

That's d e p r e s s i n g

No really, when you have a problem that old there's no way it can be fixed.

It started when the ancients intended that the only way to deliver the end time people (after 6,000 years) from Adam, would be to allow light and dark forces to grow up together in the third society of the providential people. That has been the US.

1964

The day Obama was sworn in to office. No person in US history did more to damage the country than Obama. As expected of a nigger.

Delivering them from this would then leave a deep enough memory of the ways of failure for a society that it would never happen again.

Man would then become an eternal being.

The start of the Johnson years that eventually got us into Vietnam?

Many things tie back to George Bush Sr.

We now have a world power nation dominated by Christians who only need to know this now.
And the forces of nature we need to adhere to for recovery.

We can still deport them, I suppose, killing Lincoln just made it harder to convince people because
1: Jews were able to use them to instill white guilt
2: Jews were able to use them to use the "melting pot" meme
and
3: Jews were able to import a great number of non-whites due to the combination of these things.
Honestly, it's the South's fault for only seeing in the short term regarding slaves. They got blinded by money and slaves, slaves brought over by Jews.
Even after they stopped importing them, they bred them.

You're right on that but no, this all goes much farther back.

Yeah but there's no way we can get mass-deportations as long as we have the roadblock called congress in the way.

Doesn't matter. If we somehow get a Fascist or NatSoc gov, we can literally just ignore them. We are closer to having an awakening than ever.
There are just as many communists then as there are now. We won then, and we will win now.

1968

There's a whole documentary about this specific year, but basically

- Tet Offensive was televised, completely reversing public support of Vietnam, which led to the loss of American belief that we were invincible fighters for freedom
- MLK dies, race-relations never regain from this death, riots and protests everywhere
- Civil Rights Act, self explanatory
- CIA launched the Phoenix Program, the first attempt at counter-insurgency and the blueprint for how future wars would be conducted against a civilian population
- The first major protest by the Women's Lib movement in New York and the creation of the Second Wave of feminists which spawned the cancerous ones of today, that also started the whole abortion debate
- Gun Control Act of 1968, first major gun legislation after the NFA and a blueprint for the Brady Bill
- Star Trek episode with the first interacial kiss between nigger and white man airs

Watch the documentary, it was basically the year America died and switched to a totally different direction

happened in 1913 with the creation of the federal reserve and passing of the 16th amendment (federal income tax)

But all of these things came from bringing the "beast" of the opponent back from Germany after WWII. This was prophecied in the Bible when Saul (the third ruler, for the third age) was told NOT to bring back any such thing.

And the solution does not appear for all of that until the next dominant leadership, David.

Today, that consist of all his sons, which are rebuilding the same ancient war prowess.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention it was also when this happened, the precursor to the 'Kneel' in NFL

>1913 Fed Reserve Act
This was the round being chambered.
>1965 Immigration Act
This was the round being shot into the nation's heart.

Everything after these two is just bleeding out.

Definitely started before my time (I'm in my mid 30s), feels like it was probably some time in the mid 60s, or at least that's when the downward forces became dominant and the country peaked.

This return to the right path for the nation was appointed to begin 20 years ago, and it did.

It started when we learned about all the hidden wisdom of the ancients behind all these things.
Televangelists heard of it first, but they found they were also to blame in it and covered it all up. But then music got a hold of it and had an awful lot to say about it. Then Snowden took position, then Assange.

And since then, anons and alternative news have come on board nicely.

I have a feeling if Nixon hadn't allowed Kennedy to get away with stealing the 1960 election things would have gone radically different for the US.

i can see 1964 when civil rights act was passed, and then soon after immigration act, but it started in 1913...but i'm curious, why would the immigration act be the shot to the nation's heart?

And last year, all these new forces of truth advocacy
played the major collective role in taking the White House.

We already have all the forces we need to turn things around.
We just don't have them well organized and thinking clearly yet.

Eisenhower's warning of the military industrial complex, his overthrowing of the shah in Iran beginning hostilities in that region. After the MIC successful fought off communism, they had nothing left, no meaning. And to fight off communism they needed infinite resources, money, and manpower. Naturally the power had corrupted them while simultaneously attracting the Juden. Remnants of communism left over infiltrated our organizations and institutions. Jewish refugees from Hitler's (rightful) purge had infiltrated our universities and edgy, contrarian pseudo intellectual trash latched onto the decadence they preached that got them targeted in the first place. Mafias and organized crime also infiltrating our government, specifically the Jewish mafia and Italian mafia who did a lot of intermarrying. Las Vegas was founded by Bugsy who was apart of the Jewish mafia. There is also the Irish mafia who was very prominent, and they were the reason JFK got into office. Anyways, all of these forces working in tandem with international finance, also ran by Jews.

But even then the American public was very keen on these issues and were able to counter. Those forces were working in the shadows and America was still 'great'. The truth is we made things too great and got comfortable, which caused us to let our guard down. We didn't do anything when they killed JFK. We didn't keep the train going after Ronald Reagan. It was the start of Bush Sr that really pushed things over the edge.

Most definitely post WWII is when things were free to go to hell.

The immigration act of 1965, also.

We mostly lack a little bit of economic engine to
reach the public now. Music is still key to that.

>But even then the American public was very keen on these issues and were able to counter

This is a very important distinction, it seems as a whole our nation has dropped quite a few in IQ points, and I'm not just saying that because of all the new minorities. Even with the unprecedented access of the internet we are still ignorant of what goes on in our government and are quick to trust elements that would see us destroyed. This goes for both left wing and right wing

June 29, 2007
Release date of the first iPhone.

Immunity is the solution.
And that comes only from the most over-arching perspective of time,
that of the greatest length, which makes it all make the most sense.

Many points
Clinton with NAFTA
Bush and 9/11 with the over reach
Great Recession
Invasion of Libya and destabilization of Syria
The final nail in the coffin though was Sup Forums meming Trump into the presidency.
That right there is our Suez Crisis

>He says unironically as the monkey in Chief is physically incapable to console a dead widow

>Even with the unprecedented access of the internet we are still ignorant of what goes on in our government

That's because back then there was no internet. People read books, read the paper, exercising their brains often. They were able to think for themselves. Definitely a factor in the IQ problem along with our subversive new educational programs like ((commie core)) and ((no child left behind)) that are designed to not only keep the kids on the bottom from pulling themselves up, but simultaneously drag the kids on the top down

>We won then
What? Have you literally forgotten about WW2.
Stop LARPing there's no feasable way you can get a Fascist government into power

shortly before WW1

It's been progressing for about a century

CIA and GHB were the criminals factions cementing themselves inside/above the federal government.

Changed the immigration quota system to favor poorer, dumber, non-westernized immigrants and exponentially increased the number admitted. Basically if that act had never been passed the country would still be 80%+ European and politics would thus be about actual political policy making rather than which minority tribe gets to kill whitey for his stuff.

It's not that complicated bro

Mumford and Murray.

In the US, that’s where the problems begin. It spread from Harvard to every other elite institution...

What? Have you literally forgotten about the Civil War.
Stop LARPing there's no feasible way you can get a Libertarian government into power.

> when did it start?

9/11. Bin Laden baited and Bush did exactly when the salafists said he would: spend trillions of treasure and thousand in blood, in an asymmetric war that drain America, builds Arabic/Muslim grievance, and opens geopolitical opportunity for rival states like China and Russia. Seriously. Go back to Bin Ladens early speeches. He explicitly stated all this was his goal. And totally foreseeable to anyone informed about international relations or national security. It’s just been one American fuck up after another (Iraq, torture, financial collapse, partisan division, expedient culture war, money and politcs, militarization of law enforcement, etc). All self-inflicted. You yanks are reaping what you sowed. Don’t expect the rest of the world to care.

It's what created a divided america

If the US doesn't get its immigration under control, it's going to balkanize into individual ethnostates the moment the federal government fucks up - and the bar for control needed to prevent collapse and balkanization ratchets a little higher every year. It's why there's so much police state bullshit these days. 50 years ago it wasn't necessary to keep the country from falling apart; now it is.

If it doesn't get changed around, if the US doesn't redevelop its identity and homogenize its people, it will not exist in 300 years. At least, not how it currently does. There may be some sort of 'east-west roman empire' thing going on, but the america of today it will not be.

Why does it seem like we are ignoring the jew is the main problem,
and the solution to that is the main solution to everything.

I would love to know their definition of alt-right though, some mainstream outlets still consider Milo " it's Hebephilia" Yiannopoulos to be alt right

when jews fled from germany to defile your country like they tried germany

rise up

this why we need trump! we need to get rid of the jews control (illuminati for normies and minorities)

how did it change it? my grandparents immigrated from cuba fairly easily, but this was in 1962 before the immigration act, and before the cuban amnesty bill

The internet doesn't magically make you stupid you fucktard.

It's been a result of shitty public schooling and mass advertising/brainwashing/propagandizing. Television is a brainwashing machine and one of the worst things that ever happened to western civilization. If you ever need an example of how much harm irresponsible use of technology can cause, television is a prime example.

It isn't used for selling products or informing you. It's used to mind control susceptible segments of the population into thinking and believing things against their own interests.

This. Plenty of bullshit happened well before this that enabled the fallout, but 9/11 was when we decided to start openly, aggressively devouring ourselves.

>he's unironically an anime posting Nazi
Keep on LARPing user

Exactly. And it was expected to happen 3000 years ago. But they had the solution to it too.
The more we study and consider that, the more it makes sense.

Television is just an early form of internet

That was bad, but we still could've recovered. Obama was actually leading us on the right path, he was also incidentally the least ZOG controlled president, but Trump fucked everything up in less than 9 months

Yeah if only Hillary had won we would have continued to prosper like we did under Obama.

It's not entirely self-inflicted

Americans lost control of their own government, and criminals have no loyalty - especially not to the people they're scamming and fleecing.

Hillary, bush, obama, and friends were 100% content selling US hegemony down the river while getting kickbacks for it all the while. It's not like THEY would suffer for anything. It's a sacrifice the american people have had to make on behalf of those criminals.

>this
The United States is a ticking time bomb, and something has got to give. That or we either turn into Brazil 2.0

Wrong, Obama was Saudi led, the worst faction of ZOG sympathizers.

Reagan destroyed the unions, the Soviet Union collapsed and the capitalist class sold all of the factories to China while opening the flood gates for ooga boogas. Also fuck both parties for enabling illegal immigration going back to the Reagan years as well.

The united States has been a meme country since 1988.

If we fall, you fall too, fuckers, unless you align yourself with China, which will just end up with you being a glorified Chinese colony.

I hate the term "alt-right" ever since it was corrupted this past election (2015 onward) by the media and moderates. "Alt-right" used to mean monarchy, fascism, and NatSoc. Now it just means "not neo-conservative". But, even though the moderates are insufferable, most working class people are becoming more and more aware of things like race and Jews. Most still have a knee-jerk reaction to the word "nazi", but what is trained can be untrained.
>get BTFO
>try to shame me for posting anime
This is an anonymous image board, I couldn't care less what the fuck you think about anything. How retarded can you be that you think what you say matters at all? I don't parade around wearing anime shirts, I have a job, and I have strong beliefs and morals. That isn't a bad thing.

Unironically Yes we would've, sadly she was ZOG incarnate

He was alligned with Saud, but he never trusted Bibi. Remember he told Israel to fuck itself at the UN when he was a lame duck. No other president has been able to do that in the last 6 presidents

No it isn't. Television is centralized and controlled. Content comes from special interests with deep pockets who can control what you see/hear/learn and thereby control and direct your instinctual stereotypes.

The internet is decentralized. There is no centralized content provider. It's peer to peer - you share with friends, friends share with friends. Content doesn't come out of a state-financed jew owned studio. It comes from some swedish guy playing videogames with a stupid accent.

The internet puts cultural control and the dissemination of information back in the hands of the general public.

I can't believe I have to spell this shit out for people here. Even knowing everything you do, you still resort to stupid fucking aphorisms you learned as a kid.

Agreed, but I think Trumps friendliness with Bibi is only skin deep, for show.
We knows what is really behind that guy and wants no part of it.

May as well let the bomb go off. I think almost everyone here accepts the reality that we're not going to get on the right track without a horrendous amount of violence and death. As things stand we'll die a slow death, but if there's a massive crash or implosion and people are suddenly pushed to desperation they can be swayed to go along with almost anything. The bomb going off is what will be our salvation. If we happen to be alive when it happens we can use the chaos and desperation to do what needs to be done. For a brief period the rule of law will no longer apply and the scene will be set to create an entirely new government via force and violence.

I can't see any other way we transform this country into what it needs to be in order to survive. We'll never win at the ballot box, we can only hope for the collapse to come within our life times, or work to make it happen ourselves.

Seems like I touched a nerve
Nice how you didn't mention having a girlfriend or not being a pathetic virgin
I'm sure you'll show me one day though you sad Anime Nazi LARPer.

>Seems like I touched a nerve
If it helps you sleep at night.
>Nice how you didn't mention having a girlfriend or not being a pathetic virgin
Probably because you didn't use that insult against me you fucktard.

>people are becoming more and more aware of things like race and Jews
Well we already know white have some form of racial consciousness, just look are neighborhoods self-segregate. That's one thing racial nationalist have going for it, the philosophy, in many ways is innate and organic. It's not unnatural like communism, for example, all you have to do is get white to acknowledge their preference and normalize it, the convincing part is already done. This is why white flight exist, but when things will get really interesting is when white have nowhere else to "white-flight" to. They'll embrace their ethnic solidarity whether they like it or not, especially when they become a hated minority.

If it comes down to desperate measures - always remember that most people are lemmings who will go full SJW tier brainwashed for any group/power-structure that provides them with safety and stability.

It's not the guys with guns that matter most. It's the guys with tractors, electricity, and roads. The guns are merely used to control those things.

In America, the guys with the tractors/electricity/roads also own their own guns. It will be quite something to see it in action. I'd personally predict thousands of fiefdoms popping up all across the US, especially in middle america. The east coast would probably try to retain the trappings of a republic, the west coast.. I don't even know. Some kind of despotic pretend democracy/banana republic maybe.

>Where did this all start?

The French revolution, really. It has been down hill since the beginning.

Are you fucking retarded? I mentioned the school system too. Why are you pretending I didn't? And like the other a on said, your tv example was an early version of the internet.

>leaf
IP range ban when

After witnessing the turmoil of the Trump election, rise of the "alt-right," BLM riots, and Mestizos marching down the streets in the southwest with Mexican flags, I can only hope to predict what things will be like, even 5-10 years from now

If only we had a kwisatz haderach

>always remember that most people are lemmings who will go full SJW tier brainwashed for any group/power-structure that provides them with safety and stability.
That's what I'd be banking on, yes.

Hitler was only able to rise to power thanks to violent communists bringing anarchy to the streets of Germany. People will always side with those who promise order and stability no matter how atrocious they might seem. That's why a collapse is our best bet. When and if it happens the leftists will run rampant and the nogs will chimp out and ChimpCon 1.

By promising to bring order to a lawless hellscape of chaos and depravity, a single group could gain the support of the masses and be forgiven for almost anything they do in order to achieve order.

The year of the Hart-Cellar Act (when third worlders were allowed to pour in).