For every 10,000 jobs Amazon creates, they kill 330,000 in the retail industry.
In a truly capitalist free market, a monopoly can't form with out government intervention. Amazon used government subsidies to bankrupt the US Postal Service. Amazon is a monopoly and it is decimating the US economy. With the automated systems they have in place and coming in the near future, our next generation won't even get a chance work a minimum wage job or experience any sort of economic freedom. They will be like hamsters living in a cage owned by their master, Jeff Bezos.
Why are we letting this monopoly silently destroy our local economies and kill what's left of the American dream? Why are we voluntarily domesticating ourselves into becoming pets for monopolistic corporations?
What're you gonna do about it? If it's anything short of pick up a gun and go kill him and his board of directors then you're not going to accomplish anything. You're complaining about deep-seated issues that cannot conceivably be fixed without violence.
Lincoln Green
It's happening.
Mason White
You're saying they couldnt have fucked over USPS in some other way? I'm not extremely well versed in libertarian economics but I fail to see how truly free markets avoid monopolies.
Jose Taylor
Send it up to the God Emperor. Spread the word. Amazon is Cancer.
Trump on (((Bezos)))- "He thinks I'll go after him for antitrust," Trump said at the time. "Because he's got a huge antitrust problem because he's controlling so much, Amazon is controlling so much of what they are doing.
"He's using the Washington Post, which is peanuts, he's using that for political purposes to save Amazon in terms of taxes and in terms of antitrust."
Trump’s campaign later reiterated this narrative in a statement claiming that the Post was being used as political leverage so Amazon doesn’t “get sued for monopolistic tendencies that have led to the destruction of department stores and the retail industry.”
Tyler Johnson
all the monopolies MUST BE SMASHED
Chase Perez
Amazon got paid to rape USPS with their aids infected cock giving them an advantage over all the competition. We pay $10 to ship a package, they pay a fraction of that using our own tax dollars.
Jonathan Williams
>In a truly capitalist free market, a monopoly can't form with out government intervention. wrong
Jace Cooper
This. Also, Amazon isn't even profitable. It's about time all those tax loopholes and scams they enjoy get shut down and that USPS sweetheart deal. Lets see Scamazon stock then when it's an even playing field.
Jayden Parker
Obviously the solution here is to import millions of unskilled third-worlders.
If the amount of jobs available in our country is decreasing, we obviously can't lower our population growth!
Jose Edwards
Merkel's logic
Blake Carter
I don't know where you live user but around here Walmart killed local retail a long time ago. That ship has sailed.
If anything, Amazon is a step up. Quality is higher thanks to their rating system. You can search for rare made in tbe US merchandise. Vendors aren't squeezed to death to cut costs.
Adam Clark
Why would you want to keep horrible jobs that make people want to kill themselves? I say automate everything if you can. Our days of being enslaved by money are nearing an end.
Elijah Howard
Ever try ordering from Amazon pantry? It's a lot cheaper to order that shit off Walmart, and yea, Walmart has a website too, you can find the same household junk you use everyday on both sites. You watched star trek a little too much as a kid I take it? maybe if he had unlimited energy sources for cheap and replicators.
Zachary Rivera
>wrong He is right. There are no natural monopolies.
Colton Flores
delet this
Charles Reed
>amazon >not profitable
At least know what you're talking about before you spout retarded shit. Just because it's less profitable than expected doesn't mean its not profitable
Elijah Morgan
So our solution to Walmart was to enable an even bigger, more destructive version it?
And Amazon is know to squeeze vendors. Not only do they squeeze vendors, they kill them off by replicating the competition's product to produce their own in-house product lines.
Nathan Bell
Amazon delivers better prices and better service. Amazon uses its profits to invest in its own infrastructure and expansion, like a fleet of fucking 767s. It is textbook fucking capitalism like you'd see in Elmer Fudd cartoons. youtube.com/watch?v=2auI6Uz3D8I
Specialization of labor is the primary principle which drives increases of wealth. The problem is that the economy is too burdened with inflationary monetary policy. Prices need to go down, but the government only allows them to go up. Amazon is not to blame for this mess, they are simply the most robust business in the prevailing mediocre environment.
Nolan Cooper
I thought the Post Office typically ran at a profit on the money charged for their deliveries.
Isaiah Brooks
Bust the trusts.
Camden Stewart
He is correct in that their retail operations are not very profitable for the most part. They make up for it in their cloud services, data collection, and other acquired entities.
Isaiah Reyes
Waaaaa you fucking nigger, and Ford killed the horse drawn carriage.
Mason Perez
We still use local grocery and Walmart for food.
But more and more of the rest is coming from Amazon. Walmart sells junk. Target sells junk marked up to repel Walmart shoppers. Amazon sells junk, but it also sells quality stuff you can't find at Walmart, Target, or Home Depit. It's just not there. The rating system is good for sifting through the junk anyhow.
Easton Clark
>Says Amazon is anti-capitalist >Amazon is literally a shining beacon of successful, expansive capitalism
Jaxon Foster
Better prices while failing to be profitable in their retail operations...
Better services provided at the expense of the tax payer....
Every business uses profits to invest in its own infrastructure and expansion... thats how all businesses work...
Amazon just cheats. They are the best cheaters, that's for sure.
Grayson Richardson
Worked for amazon for 6 years. What is going to kill them is that they don't inspect what comes into the warehouses. Fake products are running rampant, I wouldn't be surprised if drugs were shipping in and out of the wareshouses as well.
Blake Garcia
>Walmart sells junk Wrong >Target sells junk marked up to repel Walmart shoppers stupid opinionated response >Amazon sells junk yes >but it also sells quality stuff you can't find wrong >The rating system is good for sifting through the junk anyhow stupid opinionated answer,and ignores that almost all other retail sites have rating systems
Elijah Davis
I actually have a small business of selling stuff on Amazon. Mostly books. Amazon takes around 15% of the total sales price in commissions. So I do support Amazon as a sales platform, and I do realize I am being a hypocrite in some ways by attacking Amazon.
A lot of the products on Amazon aren't sold directly by Amazon, they are sold by other companies- who then pay a commission.
The US government is supposed to smash and reorganize monopolies into competing companies for the good of the US economy and jobs. And Amazon is like those cartoons of the Octopus monopoly company taking over everything around them. Amazon does have business tactics that destroy local businesses- like pricing products under the cost of manufacture, automation, and depending on government subsidies. Amazon has never really been a profitable business- its highly dependent on the government and the investors.
When the next crash happens. I wouldn't mind if Amazon was split up. I don't want Jeff Bezos having his hands in the food or pharmaceuticals industry. Get him out of Whole Foods.
Leo Thomas
I've been paying taxes on Amazon all year. It's your fucking state that has to twist their arm.
Parker Cox
You're a luddite. Fewer people doing the same or more work is ALWAYS better in the long run. The normal course of industrialization produces deflation, as the ratio of productive output per unit cost increases. However our monetary system arranges central banks as the font of new currency bought with cheap credit. The gains produced by higher productivity are devoured, and exceeded, by this scheme which drives inflation up while economic efficiency drives down demand for labor. The net result is higher cost of living in the face of wage stagnation. This eventually results in a deflationary spiral, which the government tries to contain by issuing banks free money (or bonds which are close to that) to cover the gaps in their ledgers. The government today is out of options to contain insolvency, and cannot afford to contain inflation by raising interest rates. The dollar itself is at risk in the next recession (but by the way, the 2008 recession never actually ended once you adjust GDP by common sense definitions of inflation).
Carson Bennett
You're a fucking retard.
Jeremiah Hernandez
KYS, then you'll be liberated
Jaxson Ortiz
You realize if the sweetheart deal with the USPS dries up they're fucked? That's why they're pushing their own shipping company slowly. Their cloud services pulled a bit of a profit, but overall its lackluster. Lets see Amazon try to do a better job than other shippers who were in the game for decades, it's not going to happen. I've gotten stupid products off Amazon with great verified purchases reviews, turns out the reviews were all bullshit. Order one superior version of a product, get another cheaper version, advertised by the seller as superior, just complain, they usually credit the money back. You're an idiot, they get a nice break from the USPS, otherwise they'd be fucked. That's why the fed raised rates the last few meetings, oh ok. Even Yellen was making excuses. >The Fed's preferred measure of inflation has retreated further from its 2 percent target rate for much of the year andcurrently stands at 1.3 percent. However, Fed Chair Janet Yellen has also said she still expects inflation to rebound and the central bank appears on course to raise interest rates again in December.
Isaiah Robinson
Dealing with unhelpful niggers working at shitty mall stores that are perpetually out of whatever you went there to buy is not the American dream.
Adrian Morgan
You wrote an idiotic post, so it got eviscerated. Probably a losertarian, aren't ya
Kayden Taylor
bump
Cooper Jones
Ford is a terrible comparison to Bezos. The automotive industry benefited the economy in so many incredible ways. It created millions of jobs, improved the circulation of money, spawned the creation and growth of countless related industries.
What has Amazon done? Kill entire industries, communities, jobs and sell cheap shit?
Dominic Long
Yep - I heard from a logistics industry insider that Amazon is absolutely raping the public with it's 'deal' with USPS. He said that Apple and others rape private carriers since they provide so much of the freight %, but nowhere near what Amazon is getting. PS, that was in 2008. Then there's the tax sheltering bullshit that it got away with for years. Basically net companies getting away with breaking rules that everybody else has to play by
Landon Rogers
i hear ya, it sucks because they end up just taking money from the supplier so nothing really gets done about it
Asher Wright
>retail industry jobs
not much of a loss desu
Blake Butler
Go shop at Walmart and buy junk then fuck.
I'll spend a little more and buy quality tools from Amazon thank you very much.
Joseph Flores
Government sources of inflation are flat out lying. The definition of inflation used by bodies like the Department of Labor and The Fed have been steadily mangled over the course of decades to no longer reflect reality. This gave two advantages. 1: The actual rate of inflation is masked giving the impression that the government does an okay job managing it. 2: The nominally lower rate of inflation saves trillions of dollars over the years by slowing the growth of entitlement programs. In reality, inflation today stands at 5-10% year over year, not at 1.3-2%. There has been ZERO real GDP growth since 2008.
Angel Price
Well what's fucking new?
Walmart decimated local retail in the 90s.
Charles Jones
>You realize if the sweetheart deal with the USPS dries up they're fucked? That's why they're pushing their own shipping company slowly.
Nail on head.
Dylan Carter
Every time in history technology has replaced jobs we have responded by inventing entirely new industries. Art, music, athletics, games, entertainment all are a result of jobs being replaced by technology giving individuals more leisure time and more time to participate in the service economy.
Hunter Scott
Something else will come along and eat Amazon eventually.
Jason Ramirez
So paying for their welfare after the only job they can get is killed is the American dream?
Robert Gray
post yfw Amazon Militia and Amazon drone strikes
Nathan Fisher
I'll agree government sources are flat out lying and can't measure inflation correctly, for fucks sake they can't even properly gauge money supply and this has been for a very long time now. The fed is guesstimating everything and comes up with half ass excuses that don't even make sense when it comes to their rate policy. I'll tell you one thing though, ever since Trump stepped into office, REAL UNEMPLOYMENT has dipped quite a bit and will continue to do so. I'm not talking about the published U3 unemployment rate either, but the U6 metric. When is the last time the US saw 8.2% U6 unemployment, it was on average 10% last year.
Jose Perez
yea but we didnt used to have a national effort to give all of our excess to niggers and third worlders
Robert Myers
this is how you kill zog
Cameron Murphy
No unlimited welfare is the leftist dream and part an parcel of living in the modern world it seems. Do you seriously think that if amazon disappeared tomorrow things would go back to the good old days of shitty malls and Walmart retail? No. Even if amazon was broken up other companies would rush in to replace it because its far more convenient to order shit online than it is to hunt things down all over half the state. Fuck malls the niggers that infest them.
Ian Robinson
Not very profitable is not "not profitable". The majority of income is currently invested in real estate so that they own the buildings the company works in.
Claiming they are not profitable is false.
Hunter Bell
You guys literally have no idea what you're talking about. The USPS covets the Amazon contract. Secondly, tax payer dollars do not fund the USPS. The problem the USPS has had over the last decade is entirely the fault of the Republican congress forcing them to fund a healthcare retirement package 75 years in fucking advance-- a literal direct attempt to sabotage the USPS. Google PAEA USPS.
Xavier Walker
Amazon receives government subsidies... no one mentioned USPS in relation to tax payer funding.
Kevin Miller
Also, nearly every package that Amazon sends through the USPS is brought directly to the city of its destination and PO of it's delivery point directly by Amazon paid contractors. The packages are then brokedown and sent with mail carriers who were going to cover the same route regardless. Stop with the misinformation. I'm a contractor for the government widespread throughout the south with insider information. I've seen this all firsthand.
James Cook
It is true that all the big computer monopolies are modern trusts, benefitting from unfree market government arrangements, and are vulnerable to anti-trust actions.
Elijah Wilson
This post implies.
Jacob Thompson
Put a sock in it already, the USPS had to invest billions for the Scamazon deal to go through too, money they'll never see from it. >“The U.S. Postal Service delivers the company’s boxes well below its own costs,” Sandbulte mentioned. “Like an accelerant to the fire, this subsidy is speeding up the collapse of traditional retailers in the U.S. and providing an unfair advantage for Amazon.” He further labeled that $1.46 subsidy as “a gift card from Uncle Sam.”
Easton Moore
The point is that the contract is actually good for the post office you moron. That's all I am disputing.
Owen Campbell
tfw I work operations at an Amazon fulfilment center.
Dylan Martin
Does anyone really know how Amazon works?
Evan Thompson
Is Bezos really jewish?
Tyler Perry
What monopoly?
Nolan Perry
They had to invest billions into equipment, they lose money on each shipment, how is it good? You're a fuckin moron. They won't even make the cash back for the equipment upgrades off it.
Josiah Flores
Go to the website; make an order and give them your payment information; your payment is made and the order comes from the closest warehouse to your mailbox.
Grayson Ross
You have no idea what you're talking about. You're parroting false information.
Robert Wood
liberated to do what? rummage in the garbage of those with jobs? Not everyone's a creative genius just needing some free time.
Chase Adams
yea amazon is le big bad jew becuz efficient firms that out-compete outdated, expensive, inefficient firms in a capitalistic market are evul
William Williams
They will spend $1B on a robot to replace you in no time.
Noah Thomas
doesnt amazon treat its workers like shit
Thomas Anderson
nah its actually the ones that jewishly exploit tax loopholes and government subsidies that are evul (aka amazon)
Jason Johnson
>2nd Amazon thread on Sup Forums >mfw people are finally starting to wake up >mfw people will realize that antifa and the alt-right are both just bullshit identity politics, and that corporatism is the real problem keeping people from forming close tribal ties >mfw societal collapse is coming >mfw I'll be able to show my true colors
Jack King
>shitty retail stores that survive on markup and geographical isolation deserve to exist just because they create jobs Sure, user. Sure they do. We're so lost without them.
Daniel Jones
thats fine we dont need jobs we need UBI
Wyatt Phillips
Almost all corporations are monopolizing in some way. It's about impossible to open up your own business these days.
Hudson Moore
I work at the biggest warehouse on the east coast, yes there are knockoffs (such as a PAP I saw the other day, it's a PSP look alike that game play GBA roms and shit) but on the same token there are products that just sell like hot cakes, Anker for example. Samsung, Logitech, Microsoft, fucking we get pallets, PALLETS of Rolex's every day in stock. $75,000 egyptian fucking sheets, it goes on and on.
Aaron Roberts
>>Walmart sells junk >wrong
Brody Gutierrez
He calls it out. Love Trump, still waiting on the storm, pic related
Joshua Reyes
Or if you decide the least expensive third party vendor willing to sell you the product below retail including freight costs.
Amazon would like people to believe they are the worlds largest warehouse store, but they aren't. They have hundreds of thousand of independant vendors selling their dead shit at a discount. The last two work station PCs I bought came in an amazon box with Best Buy SCU numbers.
Amazon stocks very little.
Nolan Hughes
Fuck you are an idiot
Samuel Stewart
Yeah that's not going to happen, not to my job at least. Not even for the bottom level associates. A robot isn't going to analyze a product for damages, resolve an item that fell of the conveyor (while yes if an item never arrives, it just gets sent again from inventory to complete the order) - find the correct barcode on a 6 sided box which have sometimes 10-12 barcodes on it, so it would need an articulating arm to analyze the whole box, slowing down the process. You can't replace a human to do that faster.
Gavin Taylor
The state is a natural monopoly
Jason Hernandez
not faster, but works around the clock
Ian Jackson
Amazon gives a lot of no education people jobs, niggers, spics, etc. It actually is making niggers work for their paycheck. It's not hard work, people who say they are "treated bad" don't like to work and are inherently lazy. You won't find an entry job in NJ for $14.35 that Amazon provides to what would otherwise be welfare niggers.
Matthew Barnes
Thanks for your input Jamal
Julian Gonzalez
How did government intervention create Standard Oil?
Jace Diaz
Amazon fulfilment centers run 24/7 mate, I don't know what you're talking about.
Even with all the tech in the warehouse, shit always goes wrong - there is absolutely no way that the current process in the warehouse will be replaced anytime soon.
Christopher Barnes
I think parts of Amazon are being used as money laundering schemes too. There are children's books being sold for considerably large sums for standard editions from specific sellers. Working on gathering more evidence, then going to publish my findings on Sup Forums for further autists' help.
Logan Kelly
I love the apocalypse LARP as much as the next guy...but lets get real. A full societal collapse would most likely mean death for you and your family. You'd probably watch your wife and kids gets raped while you're being raped before you all get murdered. That's true even for the moderate prepper way out in the boondocks...the surviving city folk are going to be on the move once the supermarkets are all looted and the water doesn't work.
Even if you have very serious preps, like a serious community, a fortified compound somewhere extremely rural (Wyoming, Montana, Alaska), tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and a platoon sized element minimum at your location with serious training, food stores for years, real hunting/gathering skills....you still might die from a small cut getting infected due to no medical infrastructure existing.
Dont get me wrong. I'm still ready for the apocalypse/Ebola/massive civil unrest/whatever, but that's just because I'm quasi suicidal.
Gavin Ward
Shhhh easy mode hallucinogens if you know where to look
Kevin Davis
You should light a fire.
>The fire rises!
You're a big guy. Nah but seriously burn that place to the ground.
Jordan Hughes
People still are fooled by the democracy meme though, so it's in a half-half situation which cripples the system beyond what it would otherwise be.
Daniel Campbell
No it’s actually a great part time job from what I hear. Pretty much make your own hours and the operations isn’t too overbearing. As you go higher up, you hit the wall full of PHD’s and mensas. Great to learn from as long as you know when to move on.
Juan Richardson
The government broke up standard oil.
The only real monopolies that exist in the United States are those created by the state. When the state eliminates competition in the guise of public interest for what ever reason people fall head over heels for it.
Jonathan Cooper
I have seen people get to Area Managers after being there for around 2 years without a degree. Worked their ass off for sure, but it's not that hard.
You basically do it like anywhere else, learn the shit other people don't want to learn (many are just content on packing boxes for the rest of their life for example) be proactive, show initiative and once in a while fill out applications for more pay and better positions.
Matthew Roberts
Physiognomy don't lie.
Adrian Miller
>The government broke up a monopoly that formed naturally >Monopolies only form because of the state
That's some next level double think you've got going on.