Was there freedom of speech in Nazi Germany?

Was there freedom of speech in Nazi Germany?

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What do you need that for ? What has it contributed to the world ?

Of course not.

Well for one if your leader goes crazy you can't talk against him?

hitler went crazy?

Is there freedom of speech now?

Yes there was. Hitler even removed gun control and encouraged Germans to buy more private firearms for their own protection and for protection against a tyrannical government.

The Jews quickly came down on them.

how could this happen?

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ofc not

No i just responded for him one example why you would need freedom of speech

yeah, basically natsoc germany was heaven on earth and jews ruined it, like they always do

In Franco’s regime there was freedom of private speech.

Not freedom of press, though

>Naziniggers are literally inventing a new brand of NS in order to appeal to modern American frustrated youth
There was no freedom of speech in Nazi Germany you retarded nigger.
>remove gun control
They didn't remove gun control, they simply made it easier for some categories (like ex-soldiers and such) to get guns more easily. Guns were still registered and you had gun license.

>There was no freedom of speech in Nazi Germany
Nazi Germany had freedom of speech.

>They didn't remove gun control, they simply made it easier for some categories (like ex-soldiers and such) to get guns more easily. Guns were still registered and you had gun license.
They lowered the age at which you could buy firearms and made it easier to buy handguns. Private gun ownership surged during Nazi rule and American and Russian troops were surprised and astonished at the amount of private firearms found in German households. Even though most German homes were destroyed and most Germans had been firebomb and executed, Allied forces were scared of entering houses because of the fear of private gun owners hiding in houses.

The Nazi government actively encouraged private gun ownership for the protection of private property and for protection against a potentially tyrannical future government.

Modern day Germany doesn't have freedom of speech

>Nazis enslaved people to work in their factories, BASED!
Not to mention there's several rubbish claims in that ''letter'', which is totally not fabricated.
I could find you 50 ''letters'' right now which describe how Soviet Union was awesome. That shit is totally irrelevant and anecdotal, even if not forged.
>Nazi Germany had freedom of speech.
They literally burned books in public, I mean, what the fuck are you even claiming?
They had extensive censorship.

burning books that promote faggotryand socialism?

Sort of. The SD wanted to develop polling data based on conversations overheard by or held wth agents and informers, in order to establish metrics for whether, for example, certain policies were effective or popular. The project was abandoned largely due to scale.

Criticizing the war effort was a death penalty offense, however.

Or ''Jewish physics''. Same physics gave Americans a nuclear bomb.
There was no freedom of speech in Nazi Germany. Absolute freedom of speech is rare in any case, but in Nazi Germany there was an extensive system of censorship.

>be American
>don't know what freedom of speech means
>secret police of the SS acquiring data from informants is ''free speech''
Amazing.

So you're admitting they had no freedom of speech then?

Dude asked if there was freedom of speech in nazi germany and you're replying with "of course there was as long as it was approved speech"

Lol nope. Freedom of speech in the American sense is pretty unique to Americans. Not many other countries would allow a citizen to say what a lot of Americans say

>"I think putting Jewish people in concentration camps is wrong."
>get arrested and deported to Auschwitz
>get gassed on arrival

Some freedom of speech lads

No. But the people still had guns just in case things started to go South because of it. GLR actually disagreed with book burning.

>They literally burned books in public
They sure did. Symbolic book burnings to stave off degeneracy and take a stand against Jewish behavior. None of the books were actually banned. Same thing with "degenerate art". The Nazi government even had art installations that people could look at with degenerate art. It was never banned. Stop lying.

There is really no other country where freedom of speech exists like in america.

NOPE
>buh why
because
>MUH DEFEATISM (because WWI)
>MUH LÜGENPRESSE (m-muh fake news)
>MUH GOVERNMENT KNOWS BEST (muh authoritarianism)

Basically modern UK but run by Sup Forums but still modern UK.

Yes, but for example, I can say "X Y (local politician) is a corrupt crook".
You couldn't do that in Nazi Germany. In fact Gauleiters were notoriously corrupt and filthy rich, via bribery and by seizing Jewish property. In fact nationalized Jewish property went mostly into the hands of few, like Goering, who lived like a wealthy feudal lord of old.
Even stuff like defense contracts was subject to huge corruption which severely harmed their war effort.

no. freedom of speech is a lefty thing

So thats a no.

Why did they burn H. G. Wells? He was a socialist and Stalin's shill, sure, but there's not much degenerate about him.

>give rights to guns but to speech

1 without the other is useless

He says as the left is desperately trying to shut down free speech.

the pen is mightier than the sword

You're lying, you filthy shill.
Yes, those books and art was banned, and there was no freedom of speech.

alphahistory.com/nazigermany/editorial-law-nazi-censorship-1933/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authors_banned_in_Nazi_Germany

the modern left embodies many aspects of the right. just as the modern right embodies many of the left

>Basically modern UK but run by Sup Forums

Orwell called, he wants his copyright back.

Begone Khazar Jew! The power of Jesus Christ of Nazareth compels you!

and nukes are good?

That doesn't seem correct.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authors_banned_in_Nazi_Germany

Remember, though, that banning books perceived to be against the mores of the community was standard procedure in many western countries at the time, including the US.

Nop.

They gave us anime

No and modern germany has even less of it.

If nukes are bad why did Nazis start a project to develop them?
Holy fuck you people are so insane it's not even funny anymore.

No. You have to take the good with the bad if you want a non-degenerate society

>non-degenerate society
>half of your leadership are drug addicts
>Goering is LARPing as a renaissance Italian noble while high

Dude you could literally get arrested and serve time for "Defeatism" i.e. talking in public about the possibility that Nazi Germany might lose the war. It was in Generation War, and that's one of the kino that Sup Forums says is redpilled and not jewed.

are you retarded? the left loves freedom of speech. it lets them spread fake news and degeneracy.

Even if you're right you shouldn't learn history from fucking TV shows.

everything isnt black and white dumbass

Except when it suits you, amirite.

who needs a freedom of speech if fuhrer is always right

>this kills the nazifag

yes.

at your own risk, of course.

In America, you can go to the capital and shout "Down with America!" and you will not be punished.

In Nazi Germany, you can go to Berlin and shout "Down with America!" and you would also not be punished.

Reminder that Stormfags got BTFO on /new/ and then on here. They've only recently started flooding this board after getting BTFO on their on meme sites too. Just ignore them.

NatSoc Germany was originally intended to be democratic, but the changing circumstances in Europe made that difficult to maintain, so the NSDAP stayed in power until its defeat.

If the party deemed him mad as a hatter, they would replace him internally.

What even is self awareness

If you actually study the political reality of Nazi Germany, you will see that none of these books and authors were actually banned. They were actively demeaned and disapproved by the German government, but it was not illegal to own those books or authors. The German government did not fund or print books on those lists.

If you look at the reality in Sweden today, we are in a similar situation. The government promotes certain types of literature and actively disapproves other types of literature. Famous Swedish writers from the early 20th century is being removed from the shelves being of "inappropriate language" and stuff like that. But it's not actually illegal to own such books yet.

As I've explained before, book burnings did take place in Germany as symbolic actions to demean and disapprove of certain degenerate or communist/Jewish literature.

Holy shit, do you idiots even bother to read grade 5 history books at this point? Stop trying to rebrand Nazis to fit in with modern right wing ideologies.

>NatSoc Germany was originally intended to be democratic

It was never intended to be democratic, their whole political platform was fixated on the Weimar Republic's illegitimacy.

>the cry of a losing battle

On an unrelated note, does anyone know if this show is redpilled? Might watch

5th grade history books also said that the holocaust happened

Imagine being this stupid

Why should you care about freedom of speech? To promote degeneracy? To promote things, since you live in a fascist society, against the people? Obviously such a person will be a sociopath and wants to do harm to the majority.
Btw I kek everytime all these antiutopian writers like Ayn Rand, Orwell and Huxley, have arguments which are basically, "but look at that secluded sociopathic individual, that dropout. Let us give up all of what we achieved just to please that one individual, just cuz MUH FREEDUMB"
Fascist philosophy is compex and diverse, it could be interpreted in many ways. But in a italian style fascist society, people and culture are important. The majority. Not some minorities or lazy fucks.

Exactly, a man with a gun with no platform to speak is just a man with a loud stick.

>>Goering is LARPing as a renaissance Italian noble while high
have you pics ore something?

I don't mind them at all, as long as they aren't outright shilling and lying, or trying to shut down any discussion with name calling.
>If the party deemed him mad as a hatter, they would replace him internally.
Ah, so Lenin's democracy within party. I love Bolsheviks now!
>you will see that none of these books and authors were actually banned
They were ACTUALLY banned, and stopped from being distributed, printed, and removed from libraries.
That's LITERALLY banning the books. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend, and why are you still lying after getting BTFO?
>If you look at the reality in Sweden today, we are in a similar situation
First, give me source for that, and second, that's totally irrelevant for this topic, you retarded nigger.
This is what I'm talking about, I could stand you people if you actually stood for what Nazism was. But you're pathetic worms who can't help it but lie and ''dilute'' Nazism so it appeals to modern youth.
So Nazis become democratic libertarians who loved animals and guns and who wanted to unite Europe and loved BASED blacks and Asians and what not. Fuck. Off.

To be fair, you have to be VERY intellect to understand cucki- i mean, fascism

That was quick.

Please, please tell me you're Montenegro...

what do you mean?

jews are bad and so are nukes, or any other weapon that can kill everything on the planet

Everybody used drugs at that time, since they weren't considered such a taboo as now. It was normal, you had it in places like cough medicine and coca cola.
>Goering is LARPing as a renaissance Italian noble while high
sauce?

No and I exaggerated but there's this description in Speer's book.
>When Speer visited Goering at his Obersalzberg summer house, Speer said he was astonished by Goering's "lacquered fingernails and obviously rouged face," but not his "oversized ruby brooch on his green velvet dressing gown," as Goering "scooped a handful of unset gems from his pocket and playfully let them glide through his fingers."

Good posts by you in this thread. I must say it's quite surprising to see someone debate you on this issue.

>They were ACTUALLY banned, and stopped from being distributed, printed, and removed from libraries.
So, the same thing that virtually all modern countries except maybe America does? Also: if the government pulls out of financing, distributing and printing books, and removing those books from public libraries, that's not "banning" books. That's steering culture in a certain direction. That's literally happening in Sweden today. Libraries are literally being told to remove books. It's not a ban, it's just a cultural decision being made by politicians.

I reiterate: no books were BANNED in Nazi Germany. It was never illegal to own a book in Germany. In the Soviet Union you will actually find real-world cases of people being executed for owning the Protocols of Zion or the Bible. No such thing happened in Nazi Germany. This is the same weak lie as the lie that Adolf Hitler had a personality cult: meanwhile you will not find a singular Hitler statue in all of Nazi Germany. It's a post-war fantasy.

>First, give me source for that
Sure, here. Google translate it. In this example, the STATE OWNED TV NETWORK, removed several episodes of a popular youth TV show (based on some teen books) from the 90's, because it was "sexist and racist". They removed the episodes from their "Open Archive" of old TV material: resume.se/nyheter/artiklar/2017/10/06/svt-plockar-bort-bert-rasistiskt/

I could give you more examples of children's books in particular being removed from libraries.

Stop defending Italian fascism, it was a joke, even if I like it more philosophically, as opposed to autism that is NS (Hitler's NS, that is).
They accomplished literally nothing.
>Everybody used drugs
No, not everybody used drugs. It was more socially acceptable, true.

A retarded holocaust denier coming along and pretending that it was totally a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world against muh independent Hitler who dindu nuffin. If the jooz could actively maintain a conspiracy this huge, then they actually are the master race and we should just kneel down to them anyway.

Dude your historical revisionism is insane and clearly wrong.

Great post m8

Keep telling yourself that, kid.

It's actually scary that there are some people who are against freedom of speech here.

>books weren't banned
>okay, books were banned, but it didn't mean anything
>okay, books were banned and something was done about it, BUTTTTTTT
Yeah, I'm done discussing with you on this matter.
Only thing you're right about, for wrong reasons, is that Stalin's totalitarianism was more pervasive and brutal. But Nazis were on their way to reaching that point too. Different conditions, that's all.
And I can't reach your article for some reason. Doesn't matter, Sweden is fucked up, I believe you.

The point you argue from makes no sense. You are free to publish any literature you want under law that supports free speech.

Saying it's not illegal to own a book is the logistical reach of the law. The NSDAP controlled all publishing in Germany, it would be impossible and illegal to publish works defined as illegal by the state. Your situation in Sweden is not this, you are free to publish any work you want that you claim is suppressed by the government. The Germans were not and could not.

Hitler was a Jewish puppet to get millions of whites killed.
>Concentration camps
Let's go by history books and say six million Jews died. That's nothing compared to all the whites that died. The Jews knew the result would end in the recreation of Israel and Zionists were laughing the entire war.

>Nazifags actually believe this
HITLER WAS OBJECTIVELY A LOSER WHO GAMBLED EVERYTHING AND LOST

Better, there was freedom of jews

>okay, it wasn't ILLEGAL to own or read books
>b-but they were still banned, goy!
You're literally a child without arguments.

Human stupidity is truly infinite, that's one of those meme quips that is grows frighteningly true as you grow older.

Do these Jews look like they're laughing to you?

Why do people insist on speaking their mind so much?
Why aren't they working instead of talking?
These jews aren't going to kill themselves.

His tanks were autistic

Dunkirk was a blunder

He underestimated his enemies

He lost his connection to God in favor of arrogance/drugs

Yes, anyone who disagree need to have their mouth smashed in.

No the Germans are incapable of normal discourse. Actually pretty much everyone apart from Anglos are.

My grandpa told me he had to pay a small fee for listening to rap music in public once.

>halfway correct
Better not talk bad about Trump or Hitler.