I can't tell if the alt-right is making the anti-white sentiment worse, or if they are helping to normalize discourse against anti-white hatred.
Are we helping or making it worse in the long run?
Think about Black Lives Matter, they definitely did more damage for black people than anything. I don't think people have hated black people more than they do right now.
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>is this Communist LARPing as an evil nahtzee and portraying himself as a racist actually hurting the white cause?
gee hmmm i dunno..
After today, definitely normalizing it and making it easier to gain a mainstream platform. He really came through today.
>Communist LARPing
wot
I don't know man
Seems like all he's doing is making normies think that "literal nazis" are gaining traction in American politics.
He is bringing it all into the mainstream. Overall total gain from Spencer doing what he does. You don't have to agree with everything he says but he rarely says anything that controversial to begin with. In an auditorium full of screeching freaks his voice rings out like a beacon of reason and the optics couldn't be an better.
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He called out bolshevism pretty hard today. Also called out talmudist. Also mentioned madison grant as a great thinker. Very entertaining after the crowd quieted down a bit. The beginning was rough though.
This is probably the best answer. There is also academic research into the concept of an extreme flank as being better at moving the overton window to the right than trying to focus too much on optics. As long as the message is there, it's doing good.
>muh optics
and this is how you spot CIAniggers
The lying press is making anti white sentiment worse.
That is why we hate the Jews
You just hear about it more because of the media.
dont be fooled
Essentially both. More exposure shifts the Overton window and brings more people into the fold, particularly in seeing the reactions of the left to his innocuous statements. However, moderates will be more offended as well, at least for the time being, because they don't realize the media is feeding them bullshit.
>145949371
normalizing
Normalizing at least when I hear what my friends and shit say about him, especially after today. I don't even know what Spencer said today because I don't watch Spencer bullshit but it really seems to have hit a note with some people.
He's just referring to zionism for jews as the parallel for alt-right to whites
you're looking far too much into it, normies don't think on the level me and you do.
While he is dry and generic, I enjoy what he did today. I imagine he is picking unruly areas to host the debate and then it emphasizes the incredibly low intelligent protesters on the left. To a complete outsider I would hope it would appear as some guy trying to voice an unpopular opinion against an irrational unruly mob.
it seems that way because of the media and screaming liberals. The reality is donald trump was elected president almost a year ago. The majority of america is done with the left. And this gives an opening for people to push right harder
Middle white america is tired of republicans rolling over on race.
Its very soon going to be a problem for republicans as people start coming to their town halls asking when they will start sticking up for white people
>He's just referring to zionism for jews as the parallel for alt-right to whites
Israel is responsiblef or white genocide.
Zionism isnt the same as "white nationalism" because white nations arent flooding Israel with non-Jewish forced mass immigration.
White nationalism will never be the norm in America you idiot whites aren't even the majority any more
I'm Mexican and I consider myself Redpilled although I hate that term
Today at work my uncle and mom both brought up Spencer and I was shocked turns out he was on the Mexican news saying hiel trump and shit
With faggots like Spencer leading the white nationalist moment you can be sure to kiss any sympathy from the majory who aren't edge lords
Well they do glow in the dark
At this point basically anything will help. Nobody has been doing anything.
Haven't watched the speech yet, but based on this youtube.com
The Tim is interviewing is clearly curious. Since he reads Hegel he's probably the type of person that could be an early adopter.
gtfo of my country you pos shit mexitot you have to go back
fuck off shill sage this shit
the whole point is that it doesn't have to be the norm, it just needs to be accepted by a larger portion of white men b/c no one else matters in the scope of history.
This is an anti-Spencer shill to those unaware. They enter threads with one of a handful of infographics and start spewing nonsensical autism about Zionism being linked to white genocide. This is, of course, completely unrelated to Spencer's contextual point that both Jews and whites deserve an ethnostate. 'Zionism' isn't even an ideology anymore, there is already a Jewish state whether this idiot wants to believe it or not.
Isn't Tim Pool a hapa? Hapas are basically Jews.
>Spencer's contextual point that both Jews and whites deserve an ethnostate. '
Why do Jews deserve an ethno-state when all they've used Israel for is to attack other States? Israel is behind white genocide and you want to reward them? Are you some kinda cuckold or just a kike?
you're either ignorant enough to think that would ever gain traction with normies, or a concern troll, probably the latter.
Good on you mate for keeping it real
>he was on the Mexican news
Do you happen to be in florida so it's at least in your ballpark or was this a nationwide news channel?
Hmmmm interesting, so does this push the plant or further divide and conquer between white and nonwhite movement or both.
Any press is good press
Serious question.
What's up with his haircut?
>you're either ignorant enough to think that would ever gain traction with normies
You dont think we see how the (((Deep State))) can influence public opinion..even causing white people to WANT their genocide? If they can brainwash the masses using a specific method, we can unbrainwash the masses using the same.
ty
Did you point to the wrong post? I don't understand what you're saying.
Spencer is a white identitiarian with Marxist leanings.. Literally the white Malcolm sex
he's normalizing it to an absurd degree. I might just be a pleb but I don't remember anyone who was explicitly pro-white speaking at college campus's since Rockwell. If his emergence really is the result of some Fed/Jewish plot then it isn't a very good one.
Are you that fucking homo who called him and whites ugly at the press conference?
Blow me faggot, this is exactly my point I'm sympathetic to white people who feel marginalized in their own country but with idiots like you white nationalism will never be accepted by the majority.
What good does it do you when the all the discussion is all negative idiot
/leftypol/ shoops
>Richard Spencer is literally a white nigger
I can compromise and accept this.
Marxist,?
cia homospook spencer is doing a bangup job proving what idiocy the white pride-bros are spewing
if he is the leader, anyone below him is by definition less intelligent
therefore, nothing they have to say is worthwhile
carry on
>White nationalism will never be the norm in America you idiot whites aren't even the majority any more
the spic is right
the CIA assassinated every pro-white leader to ever make any hint of popularity gains
the real way to attain power is to have as many white nationalists/natsocs/nazbols/basically anyone anti-ZOG join the military
the US armed forces is the glue that holds everything together, but it still depends on white recruits/scientists to fullfill its officer class, lead its armies, and design its weapons
most officers are white
the vast majority in fact, and it only increases as the ranks progress. most are right-wing men, and the fact that they are white makes it easier to convince them in the first place
join the CIA, become a pilot
if the armies of ZOG are compromised from the inside, ZOG will fall
NC
Could you imagine if David Duke was allowed to do these debates at colleges? Mass level college kids with free times and some being 'open minds' would have made denial a lot more normal.
>muh glow in the dark
Spotted the shill
Nobody gives a fuck what you think beaner scum, you can't even do math
Even if the le 56% meme was true, you realize over 50% constitutes a majority by default right? Fucking moron
We don't want shitty beaners, based niggers, or faggot whites bringing their retarded bullshit into our movement
More than 9% of the United States is sympathetic to national socialist/white nationalist ideals, and only 3% of a population has ever been necessary to stage a successful revolution
You enemies and you traitors have but a short time before you will literally be begging for us to be kind enough to just deport you
And on that day, God forbid I am the one in charge, because any mercy I may have imparted in the past has long since been viciously ripped from my heart by white hating scum
Everyone smarter than you is CIA
Wow, it's almost like mainstream media is in the pocket of the left.
See, the idea is to try and have the internet right reject anyone who isn't GTKRWN, who will never be a threat to mainstream politics. This dude, Moarpheus, has literally devoted his life to trying to destroy Richard Spencer.
Currently he is helping (pic related), but we need to all remember that Spencer & gang are a MEANS not an END. They are the glue holding the ""alt-right"" together as the vanguard from which a coherent ideology/movement will spring in time.
White nationalists should be striving to refine our ideology and then seeking to convert the fringes of this wider movement to our banner.
>"but Spencer is controlled op!" (posts screenshot that is circumstantial at best)
Perhaps he is, but that is IRRELEVANT in either case, provided that we do our duty. The power of a movement does not lie within the leader, it lies within the followers. If we successfully converted 75% of Spencer's "followers" to be perfect National Socialists, then the movement is ours and it no longer matters if he is controlled op.
Don't let the shills (on BOTH sides) mess with your mind. We are bounded by blood and ideology, not by Richard Spencer or anyone else for that matter.
you're either the informant of the group
or the fattest maddest one
do tell
That really makes it interesting now that a nationwide hispanic news outlet would pick this up and disrupt their standard programming. Honestly outside of a small corner of the internet who knows of dicky. Whole lotta string pulling going on.
White nationalism is already the most taboo thing in this country, I don't think it can get anymore taboo.
>the CIA assassinated every pro-white leader to ever make any hint of popularity gains
and yet they arent attacking Spencer.
really joggin muh noggin..
hey what do you think about this:
>Sup Forums knows Spencer is a CIAnigger
>Sup Forums informs everyone who doesnt actually know
>Spencer rendered impotent because cover blown
>But he also knows WAY too much of the plot
>CIAniggers only option is to suicide Spencer
we can do it Sup Forums. we can get Spencer killed..
at least he's not (((weev)))
That is one faggot ass salute. And those stains on his sleeve/ From fisting his nigger boyfriend I assume? All these fucking monkeys belong in the fucking ovens.
>I can't tell if the alt-right is making the anti-white sentiment worse
you should stop right there IMO. if you put the message out there that people don't have to hate themselves and forfeit their future and their childrens future, and they turn away from it because they can't see through any MSM bullshit, then it's not your fault. it's not spencers fault. it's only the fault of the white people who rejected that message IMO.
it convinces lolberts and other conservative minded whites that white nationalism is a potential option within the overton window. That's all that matters. Whites are the actors of history, everyone else are just supporting characters.
He believes in class struggle and treats races as classes. Thats why he supports BLM
lefties are normalizing it by jumping the shark with degeneracy. Just wait until they think its go time for pedophilia.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
There's like 5 threads right now shilling this fag. Fuck off Dicky
sheeeitt you deserve an edgebadge
>I can't tell if the alt-right is making the anti-white sentiment worse, or if they are helping to normalize discourse against anti-white hatred.
Anti-Whites have been vomiting up their hatred for decades. Like it or not, THEY created the Alt-Right. If Spencer hadn't gained prominence, someone else would have. Enough is enough.
Neither actually I'm 100% serious and athletic build and quite handsome
Und?
Your right they are all Germans
Ohhhhh haha sick burn m8 sick burn, totally le 3edgee5me
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The best way to win is to approach the race issue indirectly, by fighting like the kikes do, through art and philosophy. We need to be pushing Spengler and Evola through easily digestible memes, like the libs did for Sartre and Marx
the real leader is BPS
>tfw boomers allow foreigners to come here en mass
>tfw now we have to actually debate and argue for why we should be allowed to exist
>White nationalism is already the most taboo thing in this country, I don't think it can get anymore taboo.
Being gay used to be taboo, but fags came out of the closet.
Hey White patriot--it's YOUR turn to come out of the closet.!!!
Note--Dr. Marc Faber came out of the closet recently, with usual screeching from the far left.
> normalize
Racism always was and always will be a thing however the alt right is not and never will be a political movement party or organization. It's a bunch of weird fucks with kooky views that will never work and 90% of the population will reject. It's like anarcho primitivists illegalists monarchist larpers etc it's a kooky subculture with their own forums and leadership cute vitriolic but harmless and incapable of doing anything important
Bronze Pervert Speaks?
can you define "white nationalism?" what does it mean to you?
I am going to assume you are advocating ideology, not attempting to copy leftypol '''memes'''. The people do not want ideology. Your strategy would be useful in reclaiming academic institutions, perhaps, but the people don't need anything beyond what they see every day. We just need to show them that the anti-white things they see in daily life are both anti-white and ubiquitous.
Yeah, i agree with these anons
The fire rises
kek not like that at all, I mean at a subconcious level. The way when you see a modernist shopping mall, or piece of abstract art it affects your psyche in a perceptible way towards a post modernist viewpoint. we need to figure out how to do that for our viewpoints.
Go back to mexico, you mexican!
but does your dad work for sony or microsoft
>The way when you see a modernist shopping mall, or piece of abstract art it affects your psyche in a perceptible way towards a post modernist viewpoint. we need to figure out how to do that for our viewpoints.
this is kike manipulation. stop trying to be like filthy scheming Jews and be smarter.
that guy is gay as fuck
Don't need to wait.
The more you invite the word 'nazi' into the debate the harder it will be to have a meaningful discussion on white interests.
Makes for a good shitshow and media headlines tho.
how many people actually watched his speech though? the vid i'm watching has like 40k views. i think you guys are overblowing his impact. normies don't care about this shit
as much as you nazi fags think that Richard spencer is "Protecting the white race"
he is absolutely destroying your cause.
Going around saying hateful shit in public will not make the people who are on the edge join your cause. The people will see how much opposition they will face if they decide to become a person like Richard Spencer. That is why you see the KKK wearing hoods. They wear hoods because they know what they believe is shunned in this society so they don't want anyone to know who they really are. They know that if they are found out they will receive the same opposition that Richard Spencer faces every time he talks. And do you think the everyday man, the wageslave man, wants more trouble from more people for saying shit like Richard? Richard is speaking from the privilege of being able to say this shit with no repercussion. He does this for a living, the people who support him do not, they do not protect their faces, they do not protect their identities, they are going to be easily shunned if found out.
As well as he has now provided a face for the people to hate. He has provided regular people who do not believe in "superior races" a face to hate.
I don't know. I really think that he is not going to help white supremacy in the long run. The only thing to help a white supremacist is books and if not a book a gun.
TL:DR- if u white supremacist kys nerd
That's just how life works m8. Culture is transmitted through archetypes and artistic motifs. The problem is we let the kikes hijack our means of expression.
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Yeah, a e s t h e t i c s and whatnot are great. Fashwave could be a worse place to start from. The problem is, breaking into industries in the public eye like advertising, architecture, or art is difficult as there is a stranglehold of (((nepotism))) keeping the right people in charge. I just don't see anything like that happening until there is major political upheaval and the small group of people in power now are deposed.
>Stop being more smarter
Our culture should reflect the truth.
Kikes use psychological manipulation because they can not convince the majority of people of their ideas by simply telling the people what their ideas are.
>EXAMPLE
Kikes are pedos because of their religion. But they cant sell people on pedophilia because its evil. So what do they do? Project pedophilia in movies, art, music and western culture to "affect your psyche in a perceptible way towards a ((( post modernist)))) viewpoint.
You're trying to say:
>how can we convince normies of the truth without telling them?
and you cannot. the motif must reflect the ideology, not the other way around.
Ultimate sheckle american
Watch as they ignore this argument () and continue to attack/defend the figureheads rather than the ideas. This is CANCEROUS behavior done by people who are either foolish, or not seriously committed to preserving our race. We are loyal to the ideas of White Nationalism/National Socialism/Fascism, not to Richard Spencer (or ANY other figurehead).
Well not talking about it sure didn't work.
>We are loyal to the ideas of White Nationalism/National Socialism/Fascism, not to Richard Spencer (or ANY other figurehead).
you sure youre not loyal to Israel?
1) getting flak means you're over the target
2) removing "racist inbred redneck" stereotype is a net positive
IM CATHOLIC
this isnt about normies this is about claiming the mantle of being the face of anonymous alt righters and Sup Forumssters.
When Spencer was first made apparent- there was almost no support for him. Now look. The anti Spencer shills are becoming a smaller and smaller minority.
You can't begin to speak to normies if you haven't even consolidated your base yet.