Wow. Its happening. Catalonia going to make a run on the banks tomorrow. Everyone taking their money out at the ATMs. Strike, European style. Going to be glorious. If I was in Spain, Id be taking all my money out of the banks, because Catalonia is going to shut the banks down Greek style. Actually Id remove my money out of any European bank as they still have that toxic debt hanging around from 2008. wow tomorrow will be glorious !!
btw, Im Catalonian, but now 3rd generation Canadian
William Adams
bip
Colton Perry
well, as an American who understands the cause of 1776 I certainly support independence movements worldwide
Caleb Stewart
Fuck off commie scum, catalonia is a part of spain.
Jose Lee
What do they even want out of all of this? I remember seeing "Tourists go home" banners everywhere but that's hardly spains fault.
Ethan Russell
>1776 right on brother
Justin Garcia
self government, taxation with representation, not losing all their wealth to socialist programs in Spain
Gabriel Parker
kind of like a Tortilla Brexit
Henry Sanchez
>not losing all their wealth to socialist programs in Spain
ehhh.. fair enough then.
Lucas Roberts
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.
Oliver White
they are the most socialist part of spain the indy fags are literal commies who want to flood the place with refugees
Aaron Carter
> imblying commiecucks have any fucking money at all > not living off welfare handouts kek I don't think pulling out a few euros will crash the economy
Camden Lewis
Or how about just not having to accept roving bands of African migrants who wash up on the shores because the EU says they must?
Jose Howard
What the fuck is Catalonia's problem?
Like, there has to be a bigger motivation behind this besides "muh freedoms"
Liam Davis
Checked. Do you have evidence that they're the most socialist and want lots of human trash
Daniel Reed
So bitcoin goes up 20% tomorrow?
Luis White
>EU stability
lol
Dominic Martinez
Fuck off commie scum, portugal is a part of spain
Liam Butler
it will literally only take a couple of euros to topple Spain's banking system
fuck all those commies. i hope they all kill each other and them mohammed cleans up the mess. fucking morons.
Colton Martin
Mad that commies are a million times more unified than cappies.
Mason James
Fucking idiots, they'll only hurt themselves, like with every move they made in the last couple of months.
Asher Garcia
maybe, but still is scary to have your money in a Spanish bank right now
Sebastian Fisher
The major banks and businesses that catalunya was so proud of and that made up for them being ~2% richer than the spanish average have all been leaving for other regions of spain for the last two weeks. Even "regionally proud" brands like their wineries and 200 year old "family-owned businesses" have changed HQ (ie where their tax money goes into).
Catalunya will soon not only be the most indepted region of spain, but also the poorest. gg guys.
Jose Stewart
The parties explicitly campaigning for independence currently represented in the Catalan Parliament are the Republican Left of Catalonia (ERC), Catalan European Democratic Party (PDEC) and the Popular Unity Candidacy (CUP). They have 72 seats of 135 after the Catalan 2015 election and gained 39.6% and 8.2% of the popular vote respectively.
Republican Left of Catalonia (ERC) Political position Centre-left[18] to left-wing[19][20] European affiliation European Free Alliance European Parliament group Greens–European Free Alliance
biggest party in the region, the rest different shades of yellow, all but 1 left wing.
all part of the same club, google images has a bunch of antifa and hammer and sickle flags in the indy protests
Jace Scott
Im not sure that this is actually accurate. Mostly this has been done on a temporary basis. You cant move a major business in a couple of weeks. Most of the re-locations are for business continuity planning during the upcoming expected strikes.
Jonathan Torres
just Media hype probably. Hype something enough and everyone will make a big deal out of something that will hardly affect them.
Luis Cooper
Enjoy turning into Venezuela 2.0, because thats where your commie "government" is taking you.
Dylan James
Obviously that totally won't fuck over Catalonia either.
Jason Lee
could this lead to a eurpean wide (or even wider ranged) bank crisis dominostyle?
James Reyes
yes, definitely the toxic debt of the EU since 2007 still exists
Spain is one of the most vulnerable nations to get the ball rolling.
Carson Williams
If political crisis continues you can be sure this move will be permanent.
Based on what? Catalonia is the one that is heavily in debt, a big chunk of Spain's debt is from Catalonia. If anything, it's scary to keep money in 8 seconds land; their new 'let's make central bank' thing is just the last of the series of the stupid things they do to make their own lives harder.
Nolan Peterson
No. No. You sir, are and idiot.
Ethan Miller
Nothing is going to happen, in that event they would just lock all transactions to a maximum value and no one could widraw more than that, I think they have done that in grece before.
Isaiah Hall
EU is cucks, they'll bail out Spain if anything happens, or risk losing another member. Have they even supported or sided with Catalonia?
Hudson Morales
It's "temporary" in the sense that it can only be done once every several years. The HQs and financial centres have all moved or are moving, and many are going to stay outside of catalunya for years, if not permanently. This isn't the equivalent of setting up a PO box in another town and redirecting your correspondence there.
Capital has fled the region, and businesses are pissed about it. The regional government kept promising its people that businesses would stay, that they were all pro-independence, and that capital would flow in. It turns out that that coalition of antifa anarchists, communists, and conservative nationalists never actually talked to any of these businesses.
Most jobs are currently not moving, but for many they eventually will to shore up the new HQs and ramp down offices that simply don't have as much relevance, and manufacturing and logistics businesses will move to wear it's cheaper, faster still if their offices have already moved. Cities in Valenecia and Aragon, plus Madrid, are already reporting a sharp increase in Catalan businesses buying up office space AND empty/industrial terrain. And international companies are taking note as well.
Levi Fisher
Do you support niggers who break all laws existing laws?
Christopher Watson
>Catalonia is the one that is heavily in debt
Aren't they most prosperous of the Spanish regions?
Noah Walker
So it begins
Luke Williams
i want this to happen, i want to watch them destroy themselves and revel in their misery and self hate.
Luis Morris
EU has been decidedly anti-catalan independence, with the exception of Belgium that's keeping mum as they have their own separatists making noise.
One of the catalanyunan independentists' bigger promises is that on announcing independence they would still remain part of the EU, or at the very worst, part of the EFTA, so would not only not suffer any economic or social loss, but EU companies would flock to the region. Of course, that was a lie, and the EU and its member states have repeatedly stated that they wouldn't be in the EU or inside any treaties.
Brody Howard
Won't be for long. See And they are both, one of the most prosperous and with the biggest debt. Any serious move towards independence is pretty much suicide since nobody will recognise them and their ratings will plummet, if they'll even be able to borrow money from anyone.
Dominic Price
Disgusting faggots. I can't wait till they lose autonomy on saturday
Levi Allen
lel who cares
Jaxon Ramirez
not per capita and their spending is off the charts EU won't lend them directly any more
Jonathan Adams
I HOPE THEY GIT THEIR FREEDOM
Elijah Martinez
Catalunya is the most prosperous, yes, but also the most in debt. And their debt to GDP ratio is the most askew in the country, with it only growing year by year, while it improves in other regions.
One of the things the independentists promise their people is that just like that, all their debt to the central government will just vanish, and that all international debt will be lifted off them and go to spain.
Grayson Gray
I just don't see any benefit in them leaving besides bragging rights.
I mean, I would support them if they wanted remove kebab but I dont think that's the case
Mason Hughes
They should shift it into crypto. Escape the Middle-man Banking Jew altogether. Litecoin, Monero, Bitcoin, Ethereum or whatever.
Jaxson Carter
you're not american, faggot, or would understand > taxation without representation catalonia situation has nothing in common > one of the EU regions with most autonomy > manages and keeps part of its own taxes > own congress, and with representation in spain's congress and senate you ignorant retards should go back to mexico or whatever hellhole you come from
Zachary Taylor
> manages and keeps part of its own taxes And still 2/3 of their taxrs goes to the rest of Spain
Leo James
You mean a group of greedy industrialists and merchants stabbing their king in the back who had just spent a fortune protecting them from the French?
The same state that would go on to fight on the wrong side of every global conflict and export their degenerate kike culture across the world.
> old (conservative) and new (commies) political caste have been wasting insane amounts of money, to the extent that only spain's own gov will lend to them, so they want all the benefits of being part of the union, but paying no taxes, while leaving the debt and pension system for spain to keep and pay for
Brandon Nguyen
>Or how about just not having to accept roving bands of African migrants who wash up on the shores because the EU says they must? catalonia is way more into refugees welcome than the spanish average.
Tyler Price
Anything to add to the fire rising it's time to burn it all to the ground and begin anew
Owen Ward
>independence There, you're all caught up now.
Xavier Robinson
Okay, so Catalonia is basically Barcelona, and was the ancient kingdom of Aragon - they joined Madrid when Ferdinand of Aragon married the queen of Castile, Isabella, thus forming the united kingdom of Spain. That's Ferdinand and Isabella who helped Columbus and kicked out the Jews and Moslems.
So Catalonia leaving Castile is like Scotland trying to leave England.
Jacob Sanders
Holy shit. Do you fags know how bad this is? They could literally crash the financial system if the turnout's good enough!!!
Jordan Mitchell
Holy shit, no fractional reserve bank can withstand this. Do you know who is the lender of last resort? The ECB!
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN CATALANS KILLED THE EU?!
Bentley Ramirez
>bad you misspelled awesome
Juan Flores
All the more reason to expel them.
How is their economy? Are they essential for Spain? I read somewhere that they were robbing Spain and transferring the money to private banks... so they can't be that important I'm assuming they are dirty traitors and are planning to become "independent" and then leech on their new EU masters.
Adrian Young
screencap this: absolutely nothing will happen the commie larpers that are proposing it have no fucking clue about how economy works and only a few idiots will actually do it
Isaac Rodriguez
Hire me Spanish government I'll put down the Catalonian rebels for you for a modest sum plus expenses paid for
Austin Peterson
The same problem as everyone
The Jewish problem
Lucas Murphy
The "turnout" is going to be pretty much only antifa neets. Banks will register less money going out than when Apple puts out a new dongle on sale for a day.
Grayson Lewis
>No clue how the economy works
European banks are already struggling. You get enough pressure on them from a bank run and it could fuck shit up big time.
The danger here is if people in other regions of Spain panic and try to withdraw their money as well just in case.
Still. If they can spread fear throughout Spain, they might be able to do something
Jason Martin
Ey perro are we a part of spain too maje?
Brandon Ortiz
>its another german thinks he knows economics episode
Ethan Morris
How are the Jews involved in Catalonia?
Jacob Gonzalez
I'll be putting my money into these banks whole they are desperate and make a fortune.
Jaxon Davis
check back in 2-3h, and see a huge nothingburger happening
Sebastian Edwards
Part of me supports Spain because I wouldn't want a US state to secede. But if the majority of Catalonians want independence maybe they should get it. I guess we'll see how much they want it.
Connor Richardson
>panic Why? The news of this barely registers even on catalan media on the 3rd page, spanish media consider it another kiddy-tantrum from the anarchist branch of the separatist movement that isn't even a major voice of it and gets all of a footnote on a news feed update.
The average spaniard is more likely to be eating churros and tapas this Saturday than knowing, much less caring, about what some neets want to do to inconvenience themselves.
Stop rubbing yourself over the thought of constant Happenings and get real for a moment.
Dominic Walker
texas vs white in the us spanish constitution both prevent unilateral secession if they want to leave, they should do it right: convince political parties to pass it in congress, have a national referendum, explaining catalonians thay they'd be out of the EU, among other things what they're doing now is blatantly lying to their own people, because they know that majority would approve
Ayden Reed
*wouldn't approve
Benjamin Johnson
>European banks are already struggling Old news, it's the current year, things have changed.
Oliver Scott
Lel i bet 5% will take their money out. Cannellonians are weak.
Carson Wood
hello catalonia hows that proxy going?
Hudson Moore
is this the nail in the coffin for the european union economy, isnt spain a rock that holds it up like italy.
Jonathan Torres
Why does there have to be a bigger problem than the people's freedom? I mean on principle humans need more than just freedom to survive, but when food, water and shelter aren't the question freedom becomes the necessity for which they will fight.
Isaiah Green
>Cannellonians wat
Hudson Mitchell
>european style >greek style so going bankrupt?
Chase Brooks
> posting this with the EU flag I guess morning has arrived to europe, and the shill factories are warming up. plenty of > 1 post by this ID no argument, no discourse are we already seeing soros's 15B in action? how long will they last this time?
Henry Murphy
The only real force keeping it together is (ironically) Germany. Merkel has most of the countries working together, but incidents like this and new political parties are quickly gaining traction. All because the EU tries to be more than it should be, a zone for free market trading and one general boarder.
Hudson Bailey
>people's freedom We're talking about Europe's equivalent of commiefornia, not the fucking Congo
Wyatt Howard
the goy awakens to rebel.
Ayden Rogers
Blame frogs for the currency idea and forcing it down everyone throat since it is designed to destroy the German economy at that time.
Luke Rogers
I'm sorry for making you feel so special user
Nolan Fisher
There is no unification in capitalism its competition thats the point