Wow. Its happening. Catalonia going to make a run on the banks tomorrow. Everyone taking their money out at the ATMs. Strike, European style. Going to be glorious. If I was in Spain, Id be taking all my money out of the banks, because Catalonia is going to shut the banks down Greek style. Actually Id remove my money out of any European bank as they still have that toxic debt hanging around from 2008. wow tomorrow will be glorious !!
Pay back is a bitch for the Catalonia genocide.
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sauce?
here are the banks being targeted:
Caixa Bank, Sabadell, Bankia, BBVA and Santander
btw, Im Catalonian, but now 3rd generation Canadian
bip
well, as an American who understands the cause of 1776 I certainly support independence movements worldwide
Fuck off commie scum, catalonia is a part of spain.
What do they even want out of all of this? I remember seeing "Tourists go home" banners everywhere but that's hardly spains fault.
>1776
right on brother
self government, taxation with representation, not losing all their wealth to socialist programs in Spain
kind of like a Tortilla Brexit
>not losing all their wealth to socialist programs in Spain
ehhh.. fair enough then.
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.
they are the most socialist part of spain
the indy fags are literal commies who want to flood the place with refugees
> imblying commiecucks have any fucking money at all
> not living off welfare handouts
kek I don't think pulling out a few euros will crash the economy
Or how about just not having to accept roving bands of African migrants who wash up on the shores because the EU says they must?
What the fuck is Catalonia's problem?
Like, there has to be a bigger motivation behind this besides "muh freedoms"
Checked. Do you have evidence that they're the most socialist and want lots of human trash
So bitcoin goes up 20% tomorrow?
>EU stability
lol
Fuck off commie scum, portugal is a part of spain
it will literally only take a couple of euros to topple Spain's banking system
spread the word !!
fuck all those commies. i hope they all kill each other and them mohammed cleans up the mess. fucking morons.
Mad that commies are a million times more unified than cappies.
Fucking idiots, they'll only hurt themselves, like with every move they made in the last couple of months.
maybe, but still is scary to have your money in a Spanish bank right now
The major banks and businesses that catalunya was so proud of and that made up for them being ~2% richer than the spanish average have all been leaving for other regions of spain for the last two weeks. Even "regionally proud" brands like their wineries and 200 year old "family-owned businesses" have changed HQ (ie where their tax money goes into).
Catalunya will soon not only be the most indepted region of spain, but also the poorest. gg guys.
The parties explicitly campaigning for independence currently represented in the Catalan Parliament are the Republican Left of Catalonia (ERC), Catalan European Democratic Party (PDEC) and the Popular Unity Candidacy (CUP). They have 72 seats of 135 after the Catalan 2015 election and gained 39.6% and 8.2% of the popular vote respectively.
Republican Left of Catalonia (ERC)
Political position Centre-left[18] to left-wing[19][20]
European affiliation European Free Alliance
European Parliament group Greens–European Free Alliance
biggest party in the region, the rest different shades of yellow, all but 1 left wing.
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"Up to 300,000 people marched in Barcelona last Saturday demanding the Spanish state welcome more refugees."
all part of the same club, google images has a bunch of antifa and hammer and sickle flags in the indy protests
Im not sure that this is actually accurate. Mostly this has been done on a temporary basis. You cant move a major business in a couple of weeks. Most of the re-locations are for business continuity planning during the upcoming expected strikes.
just Media hype probably. Hype something enough and everyone will make a big deal out of something that will hardly affect them.
Enjoy turning into Venezuela 2.0, because thats where your commie "government" is taking you.
Obviously that totally won't fuck over Catalonia either.
could this lead to a eurpean wide (or even wider ranged) bank crisis dominostyle?
yes, definitely the toxic debt of the EU since 2007 still exists
Spain is one of the most vulnerable nations to get the ball rolling.
If political crisis continues you can be sure this move will be permanent.
Based on what? Catalonia is the one that is heavily in debt, a big chunk of Spain's debt is from Catalonia. If anything, it's scary to keep money in 8 seconds land; their new 'let's make central bank' thing is just the last of the series of the stupid things they do to make their own lives harder.
No.
No. You sir, are and idiot.
Nothing is going to happen, in that event they would just lock all transactions to a maximum value and no one could widraw more than that, I think they have done that in grece before.
EU is cucks, they'll bail out Spain if anything happens, or risk losing another member. Have they even supported or sided with Catalonia?
It's "temporary" in the sense that it can only be done once every several years. The HQs and financial centres have all moved or are moving, and many are going to stay outside of catalunya for years, if not permanently. This isn't the equivalent of setting up a PO box in another town and redirecting your correspondence there.
Capital has fled the region, and businesses are pissed about it. The regional government kept promising its people that businesses would stay, that they were all pro-independence, and that capital would flow in. It turns out that that coalition of antifa anarchists, communists, and conservative nationalists never actually talked to any of these businesses.
Most jobs are currently not moving, but for many they eventually will to shore up the new HQs and ramp down offices that simply don't have as much relevance, and manufacturing and logistics businesses will move to wear it's cheaper, faster still if their offices have already moved. Cities in Valenecia and Aragon, plus Madrid, are already reporting a sharp increase in Catalan businesses buying up office space AND empty/industrial terrain. And international companies are taking note as well.
Do you support niggers who break all laws existing laws?
>Catalonia is the one that is heavily in debt
Aren't they most prosperous of the Spanish regions?
So it begins
i want this to happen, i want to watch them destroy themselves and revel in their misery and self hate.
EU has been decidedly anti-catalan independence, with the exception of Belgium that's keeping mum as they have their own separatists making noise.
One of the catalanyunan independentists' bigger promises is that on announcing independence they would still remain part of the EU, or at the very worst, part of the EFTA, so would not only not suffer any economic or social loss, but EU companies would flock to the region. Of course, that was a lie, and the EU and its member states have repeatedly stated that they wouldn't be in the EU or inside any treaties.
Won't be for long. See And they are both, one of the most prosperous and with the biggest debt. Any serious move towards independence is pretty much suicide since nobody will recognise them and their ratings will plummet, if they'll even be able to borrow money from anyone.
Disgusting faggots. I can't wait till they lose autonomy on saturday
lel who cares
not per capita
and their spending is off the charts
EU won't lend them directly any more
I HOPE THEY GIT THEIR FREEDOM
Catalunya is the most prosperous, yes, but also the most in debt. And their debt to GDP ratio is the most askew in the country, with it only growing year by year, while it improves in other regions.
One of the things the independentists promise their people is that just like that, all their debt to the central government will just vanish, and that all international debt will be lifted off them and go to spain.
I just don't see any benefit in them leaving besides bragging rights.
I mean, I would support them if they wanted remove kebab but I dont think that's the case
They should shift it into crypto. Escape the Middle-man Banking Jew altogether.
Litecoin, Monero, Bitcoin, Ethereum or whatever.
you're not american, faggot, or would understand
> taxation without representation
catalonia situation has nothing in common
> one of the EU regions with most autonomy
> manages and keeps part of its own taxes
> own congress, and with representation in spain's congress and senate
you ignorant retards should go back to mexico or whatever hellhole you come from
> manages and keeps part of its own taxes
And still 2/3 of their taxrs goes to the rest of Spain
You mean a group of greedy industrialists and merchants stabbing their king in the back who had just spent a fortune protecting them from the French?
The same state that would go on to fight on the wrong side of every global conflict and export their degenerate kike culture across the world.
thank you, I was expecting the shill answer
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Same level than Madrid per capita, and even better than Valencia and Murcia
>catalonia
I've been ignoring this because I know it's going to take me all day to educate myself on what the whole Catalonia thing is about.
have a (You) for your troubles
> old (conservative) and new (commies) political caste have been wasting insane amounts of money, to the extent that only spain's own gov will lend to them, so they want all the benefits of being part of the union, but paying no taxes, while leaving the debt and pension system for spain to keep and pay for
>Or how about just not having to accept roving bands of African migrants who wash up on the shores because the EU says they must?
catalonia is way more into refugees welcome than the spanish average.
Anything to add to the fire rising it's time to burn it all to the ground and begin anew
>independence
There, you're all caught up now.
Okay, so Catalonia is basically Barcelona, and was the ancient kingdom of Aragon - they joined Madrid when Ferdinand of Aragon married the queen of Castile, Isabella, thus forming the united kingdom of Spain. That's Ferdinand and Isabella who helped Columbus and kicked out the Jews and Moslems.
So Catalonia leaving Castile is like Scotland trying to leave England.
Holy shit. Do you fags know how bad this is? They could literally crash the financial system if the turnout's good enough!!!
Holy shit, no fractional reserve bank can withstand this. Do you know who is the lender of last resort? The ECB!
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN CATALANS KILLED THE EU?!
>bad
you misspelled awesome
All the more reason to expel them.
How is their economy? Are they essential for Spain?
I read somewhere that they were robbing Spain and transferring the money to private banks... so they can't be that important
I'm assuming they are dirty traitors and are planning to become "independent" and then leech on their new EU masters.
screencap this: absolutely nothing will happen
the commie larpers that are proposing it have no fucking clue about how economy works
and only a few idiots will actually do it
Hire me Spanish government I'll put down the Catalonian rebels for you for a modest sum plus expenses paid for
The same problem as everyone
The Jewish problem
The "turnout" is going to be pretty much only antifa neets. Banks will register less money going out than when Apple puts out a new dongle on sale for a day.
>No clue how the economy works
European banks are already struggling. You get enough pressure on them from a bank run and it could fuck shit up big time.
The danger here is if people in other regions of Spain panic and try to withdraw their money as well just in case.
Still. If they can spread fear throughout Spain, they might be able to do something
Ey perro are we a part of spain too maje?
>its another german thinks he knows economics episode
How are the Jews involved in Catalonia?
I'll be putting my money into these banks whole they are desperate and make a fortune.
check back in 2-3h, and see a huge nothingburger happening
Part of me supports Spain because I wouldn't want a US state to secede. But if the majority of Catalonians want independence maybe they should get it. I guess we'll see how much they want it.
>panic
Why? The news of this barely registers even on catalan media on the 3rd page, spanish media consider it another kiddy-tantrum from the anarchist branch of the separatist movement that isn't even a major voice of it and gets all of a footnote on a news feed update.
The average spaniard is more likely to be eating churros and tapas this Saturday than knowing, much less caring, about what some neets want to do to inconvenience themselves.
Stop rubbing yourself over the thought of constant Happenings and get real for a moment.
texas vs white in the us
spanish constitution
both prevent unilateral secession
if they want to leave, they should do it right: convince political parties to pass it in congress, have a national referendum, explaining catalonians thay they'd be out of the EU, among other things
what they're doing now is blatantly lying to their own people, because they know that majority would approve
*wouldn't approve
>European banks are already struggling
Old news, it's the current year, things have changed.
Lel i bet 5% will take their money out. Cannellonians are weak.
hello catalonia hows that proxy going?
is this the nail in the coffin for the european union economy, isnt spain a rock that holds it up like italy.
Why does there have to be a bigger problem than the people's freedom? I mean on principle humans need more than just freedom to survive, but when food, water and shelter aren't the question freedom becomes the necessity for which they will fight.
>Cannellonians
wat
>european style
>greek style
so going bankrupt?
> posting this with the EU flag
I guess morning has arrived to europe, and the shill factories are warming up. plenty of
> 1 post by this ID
no argument, no discourse
are we already seeing soros's 15B in action? how long will they last this time?
The only real force keeping it together is (ironically) Germany. Merkel has most of the countries working together, but incidents like this and new political parties are quickly gaining traction. All because the EU tries to be more than it should be, a zone for free market trading and one general boarder.
>people's freedom
We're talking about Europe's equivalent of commiefornia, not the fucking Congo
the goy awakens to rebel.
Blame frogs for the currency idea and forcing it down everyone throat since it is designed to destroy the German economy at that time.
I'm sorry for making you feel so special user
There is no unification in capitalism its competition thats the point
Nigga you ever eat a cannelloni?
The sooner that debt is exposed the better
