Redpill me on the American Civil War

Redpill me on the American Civil War.

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Black lives don’t matter.

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Southern states were being shit on constantly by the north.

South gets tired of it and leaves

North realizes they are fucked without the south

North invades the south and starts killing everybody using slavery as propaganda

Lincoln is a piece of shit and laughs while making bank and whipping his slaves

South
>let's fight to protect our land and families
North
>I WANT TYRONE TO FUCK MY WIFE

South
>widely indifferent to niggers
North
>passionately hates niggers

>south owns slaves
>north is like you can't do that anymore
>"ok well slaves cost a lot of money, plus a lot to invest into so if you want to take away this type of property that we've invested in, we need something in return"
>"no it's immoral and you need to free them now"
>"fuck you"
>"no fuck you"
Then they fought and the North won.

If the South wasn't retards to attack Fort Sumter they might have successfully broken away

The southern Jews fought the northern Jews, and the common people got completely fucked.

the wrong side lost

I hate todays america

You have the North, which was industry heavy,
and the South, which was agricultural.

The North depended on Irish men to work in the factories day and night, treated like shit
The South depended on Slaves to perform agricultural functions. They were treated better than the Irish up north, because they were an investment and the Irish were replaceable. This made folks mad.

A lot of money was concentrated in the South. Plantation owners were fucking rich and lived lavishly. A small southern farmer was poor, but lived a hell of a lot better than his northern poor folks.

Money in the north was concentrated in the hands of a few powerful men. These men convinced Congress to pass tariffs on many of the goods being produced and sold in the south. This literally took money out of the pockets of teh South and put it directly in the pockets of the north.

The South protested, a few elections go by, the South votes as a block, but still has no representation in the North as they were outnumbered. The reelection of Lincoln was the last straw. The South could not win.

Lincoln sent troops to Fort Sumter to agitate the secession conference happening in South Carolina, and it worked. They fired on Fort Sumter, seceded from the Union, and were so outnumbered by the northern troops they could never have won

yes they were stupid for starting a war they could not win, and they lost FAR more than they gained.

If they knew then what they know now, they would have executed every one of their slaves and brought in Irish to do the work

Shouldn't this go to /his/.

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literally northerners slaughtering their genetic kin by the tens of thousands so niggers can fuck their wives

there is literally no other way to view the conflict, because that is exactly what happened

South: Hur Durr, lets listen to Mr Steinbaum and flood the south with niggers
North: HUUUUURRRR DUUUUURRRRRRRR, lets listen to Mr Goldenbloom and give the niggers citizenship

States rights vs National rights
Slavery just happened to be the topic at hand.

Southern states felt their states rights were infringed due to policies misaligned with their interests while being pushed to comply. Northern states felt policies enacted upon the national level should be enforced.

Started by rich people over economic reasons concerning slavery, fought by poor people and immigrants who thought they were fighting for more altruistic reasons.

Also the actual battles were metal as fuck.

Shouldn't you go build the wall?

goy killing goy for jew freemason generals on the north and south. all a set up to murder goy.

The yankees were absolutely horrified by the Haitian revolution and the rise of highly intelligent nigger leaders like Toussaint Louverture, and were willing to destroy their own country over their irrational fears, meanwhile the southerners though they had their niggers under control.

We defeated the Haitian army that laid waste to 23,000 French troops and struck paralyzing, suicidal fear into the hearts of the burgers when we were abandoned by the world and broke and starving and outnumbered 20/1.

Yes, because Hati is such a well run country now that niggers are in charge

-South seceded peacefully.
-Two month later Lincoln sent an armed barge with out notifying the southern president he was coming to drop supplies at fort Charleston.
-The fort being completely barren of food and men were starving.
-Fort Charleston was commanded by -General Beauregard was not notified of the northern fleet coming.
-General Beauregard believed they were being invaded (why the South called it "the northern agression") had to make a choice of either fighting or surrendering
-General fires the first shot.

We killed all their capable leaders, who were mostly mulattoes and quadroons trained in the French military academy, in the 11 year war we fought with them.

Pic related is what the Haitian leadership looked like at the time.

care to elaborate ?

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it's like the one major war in history we weren't really behind

Go on being a stereotypical ignorant burger who does not know fucking shit about anything.

>south got uppity cuz muh slavery
>north subjugated them for being uppity

"genetic kin" is a bit of a stretch. We also should have given dixie to the niggers.

>Kike claims they had noting to do with civil war
>"Forgot" all of the west indian trade slave ships were owned by jews
Fuck off schlomo

MFW I'm actually in Santo Domingo 3 months out of the year on an account, and 99% of the time someone trys to cause shit it's Hatian niggers...
You should really build a giant wall through the middle of the island, difference has to be like North and South Korea

We should have put the niggers back on the slave ships and blown them up with TNT when they were halfway across the atlantic

The South was going to win the war. Every indication suggesting the South would beat the North however, since their money was backed by cotton. The south wanted their money to be worth more, and so they limited cotton production causing British textile industry to fail and the value of confederate dollars to rise. This worked reasonably well until the British found cotton in India, the value of American cotton plummeted and no one wanted to be a creditor to the South. They money became worthless and the North won by a landslide.

tl;dr money wins wars yet again

Every time we take any action against Haiti the fucking USA comes out calling us nazis and an apartheid state.

You would fucking invade us if we put up a wall.

lol that shoop is so bad, I can't believe there were actually people who believed it.

We are currently under dedicated slide attack from what is probably Soros funded cadre. Though this may be a legitimate discussion for recreational time, it is helping to displace discussion of breaking issues. Right now the priority items are:

Uranium One

The Vegas Shooting

Pedophilia network destruction

Anything else is contributing to slide discussion of these breaking issues.

That's probably the most stressful battle scene I've ever watched.

It's a masterpiece imo. No other ACW battle scene comes close.

You can't escape the fate.

What movie?

Cold Mountain. It's 2 and half hours long and turns into more of a romance film as it goes on, but the first 30-45 minutes are Civil War kino.

Lincoln wanted them to fire the first shot. His resupplying Fort Sumter was an act of war in itself.

Exactly

Lincoln sent troops to Fort Sumter as an act of instigation against South Carolina

resupplying those troops through a blockade was an act of war

he fucking knew it, he did it on purpose, he wanted the South to fire the first shot

The South's only hope was to give the North a bloody nose and make them quit.

Lincoln was never going to have that.

The South just played their hand, and it was a losing hand. The pot they lost was more than they could bear to lose.

Please do bear in mind that the historical narrative, Yankees good, Rebels bad; is fake post-war history.

Down with the eagle, and up with the cross.

Not only that, he sabotaged any peace talks by refusing to talk to the Southern Peace commissioners.

he couldnt talk to them and maintain the support of his Republican party

The Republican Party wanted the South to lose and wanted to take all the land from the Southern Plantation owners and give it to the blacks

The "40 acres and a mule" was a very real promise made to the slaves to come and fight for the North

The Republican party dreamed of a south run by Northerners and full of freed slaves owning little sustenance farms. poor and glad for the protection of their Northern overlords.

Nigger lovers *south* vs cucks *north*

jew mason southern general

>Southern states were being shit on constantly by the north.
People in the north looked down on people in the south, not only were they trying to undermind the polotical influence of the south by cutting our representation but they were also attacking our sources main source of revenues.(cash crops like tobacco and cotton).

>South gets tired of it and makes like a tree
Without equal representation what was the point of being in the united states? At first only south carolina leaves and but then it dominoes

>North realizes they are fucked without the south
not totally, the north refuses to leave a particular fort. A very important fort the state south Carolina.(it plays a role in every American war). We give them an ultimatum, they need to abandon fort or we will shoot at them. They refuse to leave and we fire on them. No one is hurt but it dominoes from their into a terrible war.

>North invades the south and starts killing everybody using slavery as propaganda
Pretty much, the north committed alot of atrocities against people they claimed as their own.(people wonder why there is still tension)

>Lincoln is a piece of shit and laughs while making bank and whipping his slaves
until he is assassinated and the plan to send all the former slaves back to africa is scrapped.

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>the north committed alot of atrocities against people they claimed as their own.(people wonder why there is still tension)

People in the south are told the story of their great great great grandmother being gang raped by Union soldiers and their great great great grandfathers coming home to a farm that had been burned to the ground by Union troops and a baby in the belly of their wife who had been gang raped and left for dead

and they wonder why southerner still fucking hate the North

>People in the south are told the story of their great great great grandmother being gang raped by Union soldiers and their great great great grandfathers coming home to a farm that had been burned to the ground by Union troops and a baby in the belly of their wife who had been gang raped and left for dead
you dont hear about alot of rape.

you hear more about murder and destruction.

You mean the war of Northern Aggression?

They raped negresses too.

>Dominican Republic
you mean nigger island?

FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT

Short answer, South Rich Dudes wanted the economy to stay the same and dragged the South into a war it really didn't need or want.

Southern middle and lower class end up going along with it due to LOYALTY.

North didn't want to loose the TRILLIONs of dollars (post inflation) in real estate so they cockblocked the thing.

The South took offense to this and attacked Fort Sumner.

Honestly, the North didn't give a damn about slaves and the South didn't give a damn about state's rights. It was all the fault of some greedy old men that didn't want a particular kind of change.

top kek mate

It picture like these, that makes me hate yankees more and more.

Rebs put of a great fight, but the US naval blockade made the result inevitable.

I just wish Lincoln hadn't been shot and shipped most of the freed slaves to Liberia.

>the official public school simplified brainwashing education

The North was exploiting the south and buying their cotton for pennies of what it was worth, the south says fuck this and decided they could make more money selling it to England and France. The North doesn't like this so they put pressure on the south by restricting slavery. This doesn't bother the south so they continue to do their business with European countries. So then the North starts to impart more taxes and trade regulations to try to cripple the south economically. This causes the south to form the confederate states of America. The North panicked and sent many ships to Ft. Sumter, South Carolina to attack. The first shot of the civil war. The south never wanted war, just to be free of a government that didn't give a shit about their well being. Had the CSA made it to the Industrial Age slavery would have been a thing of the past by 1900, but America didn't want to pay that much for a fucking t shirt.

Because of this bad-ass, their great-great-great grandkids still whine about him.

Shouldn't have happened. Kind of like WWII. And WWI.

The war was unnecessary. Lincoln wasn't even am abolitionist. In 30 years slavery would have been abolished organically. Major players in confederacy didn't even like slavery but wanted state's rights

People who think it was about slavery are literal retards. Slavery was abolished in the South by Lincoln as a tactic to win the war that already started. Slavery continued in the North. Farmers were being taxed 40% or more on the goods they produce, it was making life in the south very hard.

Same feelings toward your people

it's funny you put a picture of my hometown up as your image

yeah, you hear about the rape of the southerners by Sherman's forces as they burned their way across the South

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He's a fucking psychopath. He literally burnt innocent farmers alive for no reason.

>le war criminal face

Sherman was a shit general. Post good Union generals.

I've heard it said that many of Sherman's troops couldn't speak English.

>he thinks this is what happened

>it's funny you put a picture of my hometown up as your image
its funny that i put a picture of my hometown as my image.....hello their fellow South Carolinian.

technically i was just born there, i was raised and still live in Kershaw county.

Fun fact: The American civil war is also the first time the Americans and Russians came into conflict

So, basically the CSA was in the right. The Unionists waged an unjust war against the right for self-determination and gradually curbed (and still are) the sovereignty of the states and the personal liberties of American citizens as declared in the Constitution. That's the basic explanation.

Yeah, but the economic situation was proximately caused by slavery and the South escalated the political crises largely because they fear abolitionism.

The simple fact is that a single country can't work when it has two radically different economic systems and the north's system was going to outcompete the south eventually regardless of what happened.

It's like how Hitler had to start a war to prevent the German economy from collapsing. The CSA had to start the war to have a chance of preserving their economy by either forcing slavery on the north (where it was already not competitive) or by independence, which wouldn't have really solved the problem.

There were a ton of soldiers who couldn't speak English on both sides. Mainly German (or "Dutch" according to native-borns at the time).

South was full of jews

Here's a tiny red pill:

Small farmers in North Carolina waged a gorilla war on behalf of the Union.

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TL;DR:
It was an economic war that manifested itself as a turf war. Slavery wasn't even at the core of the cause of the north until 2 years into the war itself. Also, at about that time, our cousins in Europe were actually considering helping the Confederates since all that wonder trade with Europe was going to be affected negatively by the end of it all.

youtube.com/watch?v=RPOnL-PZeCc

I live in Blythewood, walking distance to the Kershaw County line

It was 100% about slavery. That is the only way to justify it. People have a right to self determination and if they decide to secede they have every right to do so. There are no provisions in the american constitution to wage war to hold territory against democratic ideals. The war was about slavery as evidenced by the one issue election leading up to it. The end result was america emerged a much different nation. Constitutional law would never be the same, the federal government was enormously expanded, and instead of a system of duel federalism we became a unified nation under central control. Needless to say this was an enormous mistake.

The treasurer of CSA was a kike

I agree to that in principle.

However, the CSA had it in their constitution that a state could not abolish slavery. So much for self-determination.

youtube.com/watch?v=8S96iQYL0bw

CSA shot first. Your narrative is 100% correct until Fort Sumter. You can say lots of terrible things about Lincoln's handling of the War, but he was very careful not to start because, as a lawyer, he understood the Federal government had a very weak claim on breakaway states.

There were unionist pockets in every southern state except South Carolina. Like in my state of Tennessee East TN and eastern West TN were unionist strongholds.

(((German))) revolutionaries(proto-communists) from the failed 1848-49 revolution were ardent supporters of Lincoln.

sure
>rich slave owners in the south got scared of northern industrial power arising
>hired a bunch of southern politicians to start a civil war so they could keep their slaves
>southern politicians wrote this in their legal documents and declarations of independence
>then convinced poor southerners it was about states rights
>civil war starts.

that's it

If you think all those lives were lost to free some blacks, then you're fucking retarded.

>National rights
you mean federal overreach

No one was killed and the soldiers in the fort were allowed to return home. It could have just been a minor incident, but Lincoln wanted a war.

If it was 100% about slavery then why did the war begin before ending slavery was even a consideration. Lincoln used it to win the war. This is documented facts, please keep your public school, marxist education to yourself.

Union had naval blockade on southern coast. So first shot is debatable- ft sumpter south carolina indeed fired first on a union blockade of their coast.

Right side lost, but they should have known they didn't stand a chance anyways. Operation Barbarossa tier.

as for the aftermath

now you've got a bunch of butt hurt white niggers claiming it was about something else.

Oh that guy that planned all 3 world wars, cool.

Here's the rundown:

>North realizes that immortality of slavery and racism caused by the south for pure capital gain
>North (where the federal government is centralized) steps in and tells the Southern bourgeoisie to stop this practice
>South has autistic screeching and tries to leave union, war happens
>Eventually gets btfo by the union
>fast forward many many years and hicks are taught that it was about muh states rights while failing to realize it was about human rights

I feel sad thinking there could of been possums that were hurt/killed during the war.