Hmm let's see
>women are as slutty and promiscuous as ever
>marriage and divorce laws completely skewed against men
>60%+ marriages ending in divorce
>low end sluts demanding high value men
>sexbots around the corner
Is there any reason not to go mgtow? Pump n dump, buy hookers, and never marry? Sounds ideal to me.
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MGTOW is never the answer. You deprive yourself of living a happy life with children and a family. Sort your self out and go to a church, farmers market or anywhere else you would want your future wife to go to, to pick up women.
The MGTOW meme is just another jewish trick to keep you from reproducing. You might be alright with yourself when you are in your twenties to be single, but when you get older, you will regret never getting a family forever. All your ancestors ten thousand years back have done it, but somehow, it would just be a horrible choice for you? yeah right....
Go and be happy, man.
>Sort your self out and go to a church, farmers market or anywhere else you would want your future wife to go to, to pick up women.
Lol and then what? Marry a used up slut that goes to church?
>The MGTOW meme is just another jewish trick to keep you from reproducing.
I don't care. Suffer just to spite DA JOOS? no thanks.
>All your ancestors ten thousand years back have done it, but somehow, it would just be a horrible choice for you?
Well no they didn't live in slut feminist culture with joke marriages.
LE CHURCH MEME XD
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How old are you? Are you nearing your thirties? Because then i can understand that many women your age are hitting the wall and generally losing their sexual market value.
You will most likely not find a woman who has not been corrupted inside a major city. A smaller city might be a better place to look for a future wife. You should never invest your time in a used up slut. They are bad bagage, and will drag you down. Women, who have fucked to many guys goes wrong in the head. You need to avoid them. And now you know this, you can find a woman who is not like that. And there are PLENTY of them. But she will not be an insatiable whore, or look like the near-prostitutes you find in the night-life. She will be modest and pure.. Go volunteer! Plenty of good women there.
I don't deny that we live in a feminist culture, but by not finding a wife, you are depriving yourself of the most happiness you can ever possibly achieve (second to having children... Man... That will just blow your mind)...
What does this graph show? it is completely useless? How does this disprove anything?
If you can't even read a graph why do you believe you're qualified to give life advice?
No.
The real question is how soon forcible removal of cunts from civilized society will be technologically feasible.
Woman is the Jew Hitler warned you about.
>lets fight degeneracy by being a degenerate
mid 20s
> And now you know this, you can find a woman who is not like that. And there are PLENTY of them.
why?
>but by not finding a wife, you are depriving yourself of the most happiness you can ever possibly achieve
It's always going to be a coin toss and chances are you're going to lose
I don't care about "fighting degeneracy" if "fighting degeneracy" means giving up my life to support a whore.
Y-axis isn't even labeled you fucking inbred retard. Think before you post worthless made-up graphs.
Just because your mommy didn't show you love doesn't mean all women are like that.
Please someone post the pol mgtow discord.
I can read a graph just fine. This is however outrageously false. If i am to read it correctly, there would be a 75% chance of a Protestant marriage failing in year five... So 75% of all marriages break up within five years. We already know that this is not true.
It's just an excuse for being a virgin and giving up. Don't go down that path
You have to understand there could be lots of women who have year long marriages and lots of women who have strong marriages.
Chances are not however, that you are going to lose. However if you don't find a wife, there is a 100% chance you are going to lose. It is in your genes to find a mate. You will never be fulfilled without it. You go find a wife, because it will make you happy. Real happy. Porn and booze cannot replace the love of a wife. It simply cannot. If you don't know the feeling of someone really loving you, taking care of you, and you taking care of them, you have no clue what you are missing out on. You need to take responsibility for your life, and make it better.
I live in a shit city full of coalburners and I'm in the latter half of my 20s, the dream is dead lads.
Then the probability would average out. That would still not make it 75% in 5 years. If there is a 75% chance of a marriage ending in year five, we should expect at least a 75% divorce rate over all time lengths.... Which we dont... Which is why this graph is made up in user's moms basement.
MGTOWs are far less of a threat to the white race then people who preform miscegenation and have mongrel kids over white ones. Plus MGTOWs are cool to hangout with and have a reason to dislike women.
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My GF is white, wants kids and has "traditional" values (for a modern women anyway). She loves me more than I love her, and she's obsessed with the idea of marrying me. Seems great right? However, after she was raped and had her virginity stolen when she was a freshmen, she became a pretty big whore.
Is she still worth marrying, despite her tainted past?
Forgot to mention: she whored out her freshmen year after that incident. All this occurred before I knew her.
It is not, however, if life have treated you well, you have a steady job by now.. That means you are nearing your peak in sexual market value. Just as the women are starting to decline.
You wont find a virgin in their late twenties. and if you do, there is probably a reason why noone has been there. But many women choose to have long lasting relationships through their lives instead of fucking around and being used up... Go find a girl who have had 3 steady boyfriends since she got hot in the end of highschool. She is the one...
Certainly not what it means, don't feign ignorance. This entire thread seems like you're fishing for approval. If you want to be the very description of the woman listed in the OP, then be my guest. Doesn't make you different than them though. Try associating with more than whores.
You're either a lying woman or a naive virgin.
Women do not love men. They are not capable of it. A woman can only "love" a man insofar as the man is able to provide utility to the woman (be it status, money, protection, safety, whatever). She cannot simply love you for who you are; she can only love what you provide for her. If you somehow stop being able to provide her utility (like say you get ill or injured or fired), or another man comes along who can provide significantly more utility, then the woman will ditch your ass in a heartbeat. This is amplified further by sexual promiscuity leading to increased likelihood of infidelity and divorce.
Anything is better than a fucking coal burner... Comparing anything to a coal burner will make it look good.
You need to ask yourself that question. Not some virgins on Sup Forums. Think about it this way. Do you trust, that she will stay as faithful to you, as you will to her? And secondly, do you think, you can live a happy life with her in the long term future?
>It is in your genes to find a mate. You will never be fulfilled without it.
>this is what normies actually believe
>women are as slutty and promiscuous as ever
Sounds like an argument against MGTOW fag. Women stop getting as slutty in their mid to late 20s when they usually start thinking about having kids.
So basically you can sleep with all these sluts, and then settle down. While in the past you just settled down. This change is good.
Nah, not worth it. Zero interest in having kids with some chick who's been fucked by a few other guys, most likely niggers given where I live, especially with that whole "women absorb traces of DNA from sexual partners" thing. I'm fine with going childless rather than go through with the alternative.
> women have always been slutty (think the scarlet letter, hookers being oldest profession), it's just more in your face than ever with social media
>Don't get married
>Yes, but if you discount meme teenage marriages, closer to 39% (not that that's great either)
>Your SMV goes up until you're 55, women peak at 25 and rapidly decline after 30. Give it time newfag
>Are you autistic?
lmao how's /r/the_donald lookin' like fellow magapede lol like stefan molyneux milo and varg are my idols deus vult amirite xDDDD
>another virgin thread
MGTOW is for NEET autists. Get back to /r9k/
You're fucking retarded. If a woman has a slutty past then it will permanently damage her. She will be more miserable, mentally ill, diseased, and incapable of monogamy the more past sex partners she's had. The science proves this.
What kind of idiot have told you, that women are incapable of loving men? Are men also incapable of loving women then?
>She can only love you, for what you provide for her
Yes, So provide her with love, laughter and a happy life, and you will recieve all of in return. You know very early on, if a woman is just after your money... So don't marry that kind of woman.
We are not equal moron, apples and oranges.
Women do not have any evolutionary need for love, in fact, it harms their survival tremendously when they are not in civilized countries. Being happy with the new invader is a perfectly legitimate strategy
alright... go shave your neckbeard and pop your biggest pimples and then listen to this: Porn, booze and videogames will not make you happy... It will just entertain you. Go find profundity in your life. You will never regret it.
>What kind of idiot have told you, that women are incapable of loving men?
Reality and experience told me. And many other older men sharing their wisdom as well.
>Are men also incapable of loving women then?
No. Men are hopeless romantics who want nothing more than to love a woman unconditionally. They naively project this onto women and assume that women are the same (they're not).
>Yes, So provide her with love, laughter and a happy life, and you will recieve all of in return.
Nope. Women want utility. Money, social status, protection, stability, etc. They couldn't give less of a shit if you just provide "love and laughter". Not that it's not relevant *at all*, but it's not what long term relationships are built on.
> I'm fine with going childless rather than go through with the alternative.
No you are not... You just don't know it yet. Nothing will fulfill you more than having children. You cannot explain the depth of the love you feel to those little creatures of yours. It will give you a purpose in life.
If you cared to look it up, you would find that the vast vast majority of white women are completely disinterested in blacks, while being almost solely interested in white men...
>alright... go shave your neckbeard and pop your biggest pimples
>anyone who disagrees with me is a loser basement dwelling neckbeard
With every post you make, you deepen my suspicion that you are a woman. Your paltry shaming tactics will not work here.
>Porn, booze and videogames will not make you happy.
I dont drink booze, porn is not supposed to make you happy, it is a mastubratory aid, and videogames are more boring than ever, although I still play occasionally.
>It will just entertain you. Go find profundity in your life. You will never regret it.
We are ENTIRELY in agreement, dear user. Unlike you however, I am fully aware that this profundity will not be found in any kind of relationship with women, since desire for women is based on subconscious lust, and nothing more.
>I-If I post a Pepe they'll think I'm one of them
Heres the answer!
If youre black, hispanic, asian, or anything else, yes! MGTOW could be a very rewarding life style.
If you are a white male, it is your duty to your race that you mate with a white female and create more white children.
Racemixing isn't the only problem. Promiscuity is the monogamy-killer. If she fucked 30 dudes prior to getting married it would make no difference if they were all white guys or not.
Men do not have an evolutionary need for love either, do they? Or are we similar in that regard though?
>anyone who disagrees with me is a redditor
>Porn, booze and videogames will not make you happy... It will just entertain you
Literally no one in this thread is claiming this you dumb mongoloid. Going MGTOW =/= being a nihilistic degenerate.
But then again the only MGTOW dudes you've probably ever come into contact with are those dumbfucks over at /r/MGTOW.
>If a woman has a slutty past then it will permanently damage her.
Extreme sluts mostly were damaged in childhood, before they ever became sluts. But having 10-15 people you had sex with doesn't make you damaged.
>But having 10-15 people you had sex with doesn't make you damaged.
Yes it does.
MGTOW is Jew BS. The aim is to get White men to have not get married and have less white kids.
Fuck you Kike shill.
You know just as well as me, that there are no girls on the internet.
>Porn is a mastubratory aid
>mastubratory aid
Do you know, who don't have to masturbate? Married people....
And love is not based on subconcious lust. I am not talking about your need for sex. I am talking about making a stable environment for your life. And the most stable environment is the family unit.
What can I say to really hurt a woman? Like if one is in a situation where you can't hit her and get away with. How do you make a bitch back off?
>Married people don't masturbate
I highly doubt this.
>Let me go into this white nationalist board and say I will never have kids
>Haha they'll never know I'm a redditor
The true redpill is going mgtow and then using surrogate mothers to birth 10 children for you.
>Do you know, who don't have to masturbate? Married people....
You're an idiot.
MGTOW is made up of 4s and 5s who think they deserve 7s. So instead of settling for fat chicks they become incels because they can't bang women they're attracted to.
>But having 10-15 people you had sex with doesn't make you damaged
10-15 is an extremely high number. 2-3 is pushing it. It really says something that the number has to get into the 100s before anybody bats an eye these days. You're fucked
exactly. I couldn't agree more.. It is a disgrace how women treat themselves. Women (alike men) have to return to the traditional nuclear family. Women are as unhappy as ever, and why wouldn't they be? They are basically pieces of meat! They, like you, can only be truly fulfilled in a stable marriage with children.
faggot
>implying fat chicks would settle for 4s or 5s
Only if you buy them dinner. You're delusional
>Don't have to
Most men are too brainwashed by porn, though. So they keep doing it even when they have a gf or wife...
Having sex 10 times is 50 minutes of your life and it's enjoyable. I'm pretty sure that large percentage of women who had 10-15 sex partners in their life will manage emotionally.
You're a fucking idiot. The large majority of MGTOW are older divorced guys who've done more to breed the white race than you autists ever have. Their problem is they got rammed in the ass in the kike divorce court and their families were destroyed. Now they're warning the younger men to be careful.
It is the answer to eliminating white people, yes.
You so rarely meet a very succesful man in his mid 30's, with a good career, in good physical shape and with a bright mind, who isn't also in a committed long term relationship... Men who never gets to find a life with a woman, just seem to be losers at life. And that is why i feel the need to preach this to you... So you can go be happy, and not waste your youth on jewish subversion architectured to destroy you.
You literally have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're arguing based on emotion. We have the facts on our side.
>You know just as well as me, that there are no girls on the internet.
This may have been true in the 90's, but definitely not today.
>Do you know, who don't have to masturbate? Married people....
That's not true, many married people still jerk off. However, even if they don't, what is your point? You are only confirming what I said, its an outlet for lust and horniness, not much more.
>And love is not based on subconcious lust.
You're right, it isn't. But the "love" you feel for women absolutely is.
>I am talking about making a stable environment for your life.
Men do not need women to have a stable envrionment. Women might need men, for resources of course, but even that is proving less true as women make more money. I can't speak for women anyways, I am a man, I have only the male perspective.
>And the most stable environment is the family unit.
This is true, historically at least. Society is changing however, technology will utterly smash all of our previous paradigms. Everyone will be taken off guard, everyone. Leftist and Right winger alike, MGTOW and Trad too.
>Sup Forums is a white nationalist board
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And how exactly is that division between men and women is going ot be fixed, when feminazis and SJW's keep pushing their anti male agendas?
I refuse to fall in love again for as long as the world is filled with feminazis and sluts
>be me
>32
>objective 7/10
>decent body, not rock hard, but not fat
>6'3"
>have decent job/career
>have a couple kids from previous marriage (whore hypergamied me), i raise them about half the time and have always paid child support
>feel a bit lonely
>get on several dating sites
>fill out profiles legitimately, no retarded memes, honest about kids
>swiping through profiles...
>18-23: skinny, attractive, 100% retarded meme posters, entitled, will only respond to similarly aged Chads who send them memes.
>24-35: kids (i'm actually somewhat okay with this as I'm in same boat), FAT as FUCK from drinking beer, entitled/delusional as fuck
>35+: has shit together, intelligent, ugly as fuck, STILL ENTITLED and expecting same-aged salt-and-peppered Chad to wew them.
>I match with several girls from various walks of life on each platform
>All their profiles literally say same exact 3 lines of bullshit "Currently studying/working XYZ, not here for hookups, love to go on adventures Mr. Gandalf!"
>I'm expected to make first move so I try to treat them with a bit of respect and TRYING to CREATE a conversation from their SHIT profile: "Hey Samantha, wow, you're a vet tech? That sounds fulfilling, I love animals" (or some other bullshit)
>Never get a response
>One whore's profile reads: "Send me hilarious jokes! 100% way to my heart!"
>Google for funny joke, ctrl+c, ctrl+v.
>She responds! "OMG SO FUNNY! ERMAHGERD I THINK I'VE SEEN THIS MEME BEFORE! DO ANOTHER!!"
>ugh... now I'm doing backflips for this retarded 35 y/o whore...
>send her original anti-joke
>she never responds
>One girl actually responds, but has husband. Only looking for friends for her and her husband... on Tinder.
At some point you just have to give up and realize women really AREN'T WORTH THE EFFORT. They just aren't interesting or useful in any way, shape, or form.
I'm MGTOW because I can't force myself to be some little toy dog, doing backflips for these mentally retarded literal-whores anymore.
Well then you traded a lifelong stable manage for 5 yards of dick 50 minutes of pleasure.
I'm sure they will "manage" emotionally but they will never have a successful marriage
>>Sup Forums is a white nationalist board
>pic related
Women who were virgins and then married the first guy they fucked tend to be religious and will stay in a marriage for life even if they're miserable. That's more emotionally damaging and a horrible life compared to a woman who got divorced and re-married.
>At some point you just have to give up and realize women really AREN'T WORTH THE EFFORT. They just aren't interesting or useful in any way, shape, or form.
This is also a big problem. Too much of a hassle to end up dating a semi-cute dumb superficial airhead girl
Marriage is a religious institution. Its become evidently clear that a "secular" marriage is an abortion of true marriage.
I was kindda joking about the masturbation part. I still masturbate, though i am married. But i do it like once a month now. Completely different from when i was younger.
Men also need women for a stable environment. You cannot be a king without a kingdom. And i mean this in a Jungian mythological sense. Our society have progressed beyond the financial need for having a marriage with a woman. You don't need her to take care of the kids and clean your house. You need her, because she gives meaning to your life, and you provide you with a sense of worth and purpose. You are someone, when you are in a marriage, and you mean something very very important to someone. And it shows... And it is really nice.
Regarding the part about society changing further, i think you would do wrong in simply waiting for a change to happen. Get you happiness now and let is grow like a seed into a tree. I work in robotics and AI and we are not as far advanced as you might hope for. Many many years to go.
The fact of the matter is that the game is over, people are getting wise, and nobody will marry you.
I am not a MGTOW, i have better things to do than join a "club" of autists "going their own way!" Some of them do have the right idea though. Too many are just butthurt incels, who actually DO CARE but fail to get any. I am not the same.
Sounds like you have no real life knowledge. Loads of women had a slutty couple years then settled down. It's almost the norm.
I'm finally coming to terms with being lonely, and it's 100% like the Buddhist shit of just accepting life is suffering = way to genuine fulfillment.
I don't feel sad anymore.
I don't feel stressed out about it anymore.
Just when I see a woman, I'm like "meh".
I stopped seeing them as sexual objects, or objects in a relationship with me. Now I just see them as these stupid jelly fish floating around in this cesspool.
Like most men I meet.
They don't exist anymore.
It really is freeing and opens me up to be able to pursue lifelong dreams I've had.
Now I'm just in /comfy/-mode and enjoy spending time with my kids. :^)
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I am not denying that these marxist subhumans are mogrelizing our beautiful civilization. They are a disgrace to our race, and should be exterminated like all other sub-human racial filth. What can you do to help your community? You can organize, and try to change the laws. This is difficult and will take time. I strongly recommend doing it, but i also recommend seeking the most possible amount of happiness you can get in the meantime... And you find that in love..
True, most men settle down in their 30's now. It seems that the 20's is an extended awkward teenager stage. Funnily enough a lot of these thirty year old's also settle with women 5+ years younger.
I would be one of those rare single 30 year old men, but I don't count since I'm divorced w/ kids (Started early, picked the wrong partner but lucked out with the courts, livin' a sweet, sweet single Dad life)
MGTOW IS literally gay, my friend who is one of them didn't fuck a girl who was 8.5/10 and invited him to her dorm alone at 2am. He says he is proud of his virginity
Imagine all "man"kind stopped arguing and purged all women from existence, replacing them with sex bots? Peace on earth.
>this white nationalist board
howdy stormfront/TRS, still trying to shill up the board after all those years? Which part of "majority libertarian" did you fail to realize from the last 15 or so polls you posted here?
They had marriage in ancient Greece and it had nothing to do with being a religious institution. It started off secular, and then religions tried to absorb it to increase their power.
>I still masturbate, though i am married. But i do it like once a month now. Completely different from when i was younger.
That's just the natural decline in testosterone.
>You cannot be a king without a kingdom
You are no king, not in any mythological sense either. What is this obsession with fulfilling jungian archetypes anyways? Since when is he the end of all things?
>Our society have progressed beyond the financial need for having a marriage with a woman. You don't need her to take care of the kids and clean your house.
Correct.
>You need her, because she gives meaning to your life
Pure projection, speak for yourself, horny old man.
>and you provide you with a sense of worth and purpose
If you get your worth and purpose from a woman, I feel bad for you.
>and you mean something very very important to someone
That's all well and good, but not really important. I have no particular desire or interest in being important to someone.
>Regarding the part about society changing further, i think you would do wrong in simply waiting for a change to happen.
What else is a man to do, but wait?
>Get you happiness now and let is grow like a seed into a tree.
What makes you think that I am unhappy?
>I work in robotics and AI and we are not as far advanced as you might hope for. Many many years to go.
I didn't say I expect it to happen soon or even within my lifetime, just that it will, and not in a thousand years, but probably more like two hundred.
I am sorry to hear about your divorce man. I hope you get to see your kids a lot...
I love it how feminists and traditionalists drop their fake war to start panic bitching against mgtow in a team effort. Real man is a wild card and you little bitches panic that mgtow does exactly that to men instead of having them move in a predermined script that suits you.
I can only hold down my disgust with how intensely underwhelming my gf is for so long...
Like, I have to be dating a PhD for her to even mentally stimulate my at all, and then you have to ignore the fact she's an SJW drama queen.
Fucking bleh. /comfy/-mode is sooooo much better than any 3D girl.
>Sounds like you have no real life knowledge. Loads of women had a slutty couple years then settled down. It's almost the norm.
And that's why the divorce rates are exploding. You cannot turn a hoe into a housewife. Just give it time.
What the fuck is this fat danish troll?
1. Daughters of single mothers.
Often means Daddy issues. And a mother who was dating a lot because Daddy was gone. Daughter grows up dealing with lots of tears and angst from a perpetually ditched Mom. And no good male supervision / role model. Some daughters of single mothers escape this (grandpa strong in her life; or a really good and stable stepfather before her wild years, maybe).
> #2. cutters
> #3. women with tattoos and eccentric piercings
> #4. women who have ever had an eating disorder
2-4 are self explanatory
> #5. Women who have had more than 5 lovers.
Studies have shown that a woman's ability to pairbond drops off significantly if she has had more than this. Which coincidentally matches Grandma's common-sense advice.
> #6. Redheads.
Hands down this one is the most controversial. To me it makes no sense, but I have never a redhead. Also, this probably refers to natural redheads.
> #7. Bi-sexuals.
Fun to sex with. A sheer disaster to marry. Avoid bisex women.
> #8. seems to be often about attention-seeking.
> #9. Weaboos and Wapanese.
Western women (even those who are genetically Asian) who live only to anime and Cosplay and who believe Asian culture to be superior in all ways
> #10. Victim women.
Not referring to women who have been victims, necessarily, but referring to women with a "victim mentality".
Women who need rescuing will carry that need with them from relationship to relationship.
White shariah is the path to eternal happiness and bliss, all white women in burka's in da kitchen making halal sandwiches. Kind of like OG Mormonism without the weird cuck mentality.
MGTOW - A movement of incel faggots.
Horny old man? I am 32?
You don't live to fulfill jungs archetypes. You live your life like you want to, but you will find that Jung is pretty dead right on how your mental maps of meaning manifests itself, and how that translates into a fulfilling life.
If the technological revolution will not happen in your lifetime, what good is it to you? or anyone really? Don't you realize that your life is now? right now...
Tell her you're interested in her.
You all sound like an alt-lite version of how Muslims view women. They understand you.