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is transgenderism a trend?

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It's a fad, and a very regrettable one.

Hair can be trimmed, and clothes can be binned. Transition can't be reversed.

i would say is more of a mental illness than anything, but thats just me.

It's a symptom of a sick culture, weak, feminine men

"A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God." - Deuteronomy 22:5

It's not just you.

Of course it is.

Can anyone name a famous FTM tranny? It seems the only ones they push are MTF. emasculation of the youth has always been popular in the black culture. Are they trying to bring it into the whites as well?

There was no social media to beg attention from back then

>comparing a clean dandy performer like Adam Ant with the sodomite JEW tranny degenerate Pete Burns

I'm triggered.

This.

The guys I have known that have transitioned have been some of the wimpiest guys I've ever known. They are afraid they don't measure up to be what a man is, so they cop out and take what is now the easy route and become women. Now, I don't think this is *always* the case, but I think it is what leads to this most of the time.

Here's the thing, these modern trannies aren't clinically trannies. They mostly suffer from autism and are easily impressionable. They're told by the media and their left-wing parents to become a girl, so they do. On top of that, you have a large segment of trannies that are simply people with no sense of dignity who dress like that purely for attention and/or to feed their victim complex.

Actual people suffering from gender dysphoria is about 1 in 8000.

Indeed, the obesity epidemic which contributes to the hormone imbalance hasn't helped the weak fathers of the past generation with raising men too.

isnt the reason black culture became popular was because of whites? or at ;east cuck porn? thats what i heard.

good to know, but im tired of being told im intolerant for not giving into someone elses mental delusions.

good point, adam ant doesnt belong on there.

No, because we will soon be able to alter people on the genetic level. We will soon have trannys with natural double D's and non manly faces. You wont even be able to tell the difference until its too late.

i remember there was a doctor who said most trannies are autistic and this is the major cause-he got run out of his profession.

same goes for the university here who studied people who regretted transitioning.

even so actual gender dysphoria is still a mental illness

you almost sound like you want that to happen kek.

the condition "gender dysphoria" isnt necessarily new, but it is very rare. people arent taking it seriously now, treating it as a fad or something to be proud of. NOT ALL GENDER DYSPHORIC PEOPLE CONSIDER THEMSELVES A DIFFERENT GENDER. they have the gender dysphoria condition and do their best to live with it. gender dysphoria isnt the only condition that makes people think or act or develop in a way contrary to their born gender, but MOST OF THEM STICK TO THEIR ORIGINAL GENDER. it isnt nearly as pervasive as liberals want you to believe, by a long margin. the majority of these people who claim to be transgender are sick in the head and NOT actually affected by the set of quite rare conditions that impact a persons gender/sex characteristics. it is a fad, and an insensitive one. insensitive to people who suffer from these conditions.

I don't care about it but the idea of people actually trying to prevent it is hilarious. Its a massive wall of degeneracy incoming and people here are still whining about men who decide not to fuck the women they want to fuck lol.

partly maybe. But I think it's mainly because transgender gets pushed through mainstream and normalized.
You can find mindlike people in the internet, there are awareness courses at schools, there are more and more transgender stars. Even Cleatus from Alabama has heard from that now.
In the 80ies it was much more conservative and normies would not have tolerated that. Excentric celebs far away is one thing. Having it as a neighbor another.
The medical options are further developed too.

I guess, some people who would not have come out and just lived as cis in the 80ies would come out today

Didn't say it wasn't. Just that 99% of cases you see these days have nothing to do with gender dysphoria. It's a mix of peer pressure and more pervasive mental illnesses like autism, borderline personality disorder, etc... Plus attention whores who aren't even technically mentally ill and just get a sexual thrill off attention, with this being one of the lowest effort ways of getting that attention.

look up rare diseases, theres a .gov site for it. theres a whole category for rare genetic sex-linked diseases. all are less than 200000 people affected worldwide

>Genetic engineering will become advanced enough to successfully alter entire chromosomes
I'd agree with you if a complete collapse wasn't a decade or two off. As someone with knowledge of both academia and genetic engineering. Let me be the one to inform you that we're no where near close to such a thing. That realistically we won't reach it, and aside from agriculture or niche markets. The vast majority of interest is in 'curing aging'.

Only the West will collapse. Our glorious 1.4 billion chinese overlords will take over and make sure it happens.

>Knows nothing of rampant academic fraud in Asia
>Knows nothing of how unstable China already was, not to mention in 2011 they entered their period of 'sexual liberation
>Meaning even if they somehow manage to keep their collection of annexed territory together and run it from Beijing they'll see the same fate as the west before long
Something most westerner's don't seem to be aware of is that practically every major world power is not doing well and expected to likely balkanize in our life time

trannies have existed since time immemorial

I think the cultural changes and ideologies that are pro-transgender are covering up a deeper and far more serious problem. Environmental pollutants are causing massive hormone disruption to both sexes. Males seem to be becoming feminized, sperm counts have dropped 60% in some places.. I have a good male friend with gynecomastia (breasts) due to severe hormone imbalance. I think the society is simply following drastic biological changes caused by the environment (xenoestrogens everywhere!)
It could be a natural effect of humans nearing their peak population, a way for nature to keep us in check, but if this keeps up we are going to start seeing severely compromised human fertility rates across the world... although less industrialized areas may produce children a bit longer before they get affected too

PROTIP: Disco sucked.

Yes, degeneracy and poor behavior are not new. People act as if our modern civilizations where the first that's ever existed.

because livejournal/tumblr didn't exist yet to corrupt millions of young minds

The hormone imbalance issue actually stems from removing women from the home. Women used to be in charge of cooking healthy home cooked meals. Fat cells excrete estrogen, as the obesity epidemic gets worse, men will get more feminine, girls will continue to hit puberty earlier and earlier (female puberty has been observed to be heavily influenced by body fat percentage).

More people eat fast food (filled with sugars to sell more) or pre made meals (made with preservatives, sugars, corn, and a bunch of other shit to keep it on the shelf longer).

Keep in mind how returning women to the home would collapse restaurant industry, and medical industry would take a major hit as less people suffer the effects of poor diet. There is little motivation to encourage people to better themselves and fix our problems from a pure capitalism perspective point.

Democrats like dependents, so both sides of the isle aren't likely to support what needs to be done.

Additionally
>if this keeps up we are going to start seeing severely compromised human fertility rates across the world
More feminine men + women being instructed to act as men = low birth rates. But the fertility isn't as big a concern as the massive mutation accumulation we'll start to see - even among the few younger mothers that may still exist. This ties into the commonality of pollution and other poor life styles (drug use, alcohol, etc)

80s "genderbending" was like a guy going out with a frilly pink shirt and when mistaken for a woman intimidatingly saying
>you callin me a woman buddy?

current-year genderbending is a guy wearing a fucking skirt and making you call him a woman. It's very very different. Plus, unlike clothes and styles which are associated to the sexes changing time to time (like men in scotland could wear kilts and not be a sissy), sex is obviously associate with your physical genitals and chromosomes.

charlotte uniform?

It's lost faith in all humanity is what it is.
If they can brainwash the city boys to all think they're progressive trannies, there's no telling what they'll unleash next.
Pedos I bet. I need to get more ammo.

reminder girls hit puberty from simply not being around their biological father

Yes, absent and/or weak fathers also seems to play a part.

>totally cool

Pretty much this. None of the dudes in Poison would have ever seriously contemplated cutting their dicks off.

This is however more and more problematic in our day and age as trannydom have become top political theme, instead of rare mental health problem, what it really is.

Now I have a bit of insider look on the topic, cause I sadly suffer from gender dysphoria, while I am of course denying transition because I am not a degenerate and I have my principles to which I try to adhere even when iron age it's taking its toll on me.

Basically what people don't realise is that trannydom is bussines venue. From gender therapists, to great medical and pharmaceutical corporations, plastic surgeons, professional activists and NGO there are big money to be made on expense of this poor people, who struggle with mental illness. Also, people with gender dysphoria who are pushed to transition serve as cannon fodder for culture war, where progressive left is trying to use them to undermine gender and human condition as such while paving the road towards transhumanism. This is final stage of sin of Lucifer, when man is trying to rebel against his very nature, therefore, it is very diabolical.

I am not pleased to see this degeneracy being used as weapon for scaremongering and irrational hatred. Right shall be voice of reason here in this war and also show Christlike compassion to suffering which is never approval of sin and degeneracy.

Hope that my post isn't to long and that it brought some light on the topic.

Pax and bonum.

>I sadly suffer from gender dysphoria
Mental illness and the foundation it rests is shaky at best. If you genuinely feel you should be female, work to improve the underlying issues in your life which are making you feel bad about being born a male in the first place. While doing this pursue other forms of self betterment.

What you mention about it being an industry has become true though. What should of been helping men feel comfortable in their bodies (dealing with anxiety, and helping build up their self esteem/self worth) has become squeezing money out of the broken/breaking.

I am doing honestly fine. There are bad days about it, but keeping myself busy with work and stuff, regular prayer and leading fulfilling life with career, fiancee, friends and hobbies make me cope well enough

On bad days remind yourself of the awesome opportunity and responsibilities you have as a man. That gender is determined during conception and if you're going to be born as a boy you might as well try to be the best version of yourself and become a man. You can do it user, we all can make it through this breaking/broken society

Br sure that I will. With help of God, Mary and fiancee nothing is impossible ( she know and despite being liberal at first and kind of be yourself user, I converted and redpilled her)

>and a very regrettable one
maybe for them, will be amazing to see where this shit ends up in 10 to 20 years, going to funny as fuck to see all these people who got their dicks cut off realise that they fell for a marxist meme and an hero.

Good job, the guidelines set fourth in the bible seem to be in line with acknowledging natural laws. Yes, women are to be instructed properly/guided, women are a reflection of their men.

It's conceivable we could see quite a lot of people not passing on their genes. Another user predicted a coming 'age of regret' where a bunch of women who never had kids start offing themselves. Same could be true of feminine men, just means those who weathered the storm will have to have more kids/wives

>This is the final stage of sin of Lucifer

Holy shit please elaborate

It's the result of a mental illness being encouraged and normalised, and I say this as a tranny myself.

Women have it so much easier now, thats why faggy little teen boys want to be girls. So they dont have to have jobs involving strength and injury. They prefer to play with nail polish and make up instead.

The original

I have also with me bible in koine greek, vulgata (latin bible by st. Hieronymus), Confessions by st. Augustine, Summa by st. Thomas Aquainas and On imitation of Christ by Thomas a Kempis (all in original Latin). I am Latin mass Catholic

probably also has to do with a wider access to trans positive media, lots of people who would be trans now would have just been effeminate men 20-30 years ago

I'm not a Christian, but I have explored almost every religion/mythology. My belief system is that this realm of existence was created, that our soul is the important component which makes us who we are. That this world is a test, and the beings we view as divine are like experimenters/scientists

>repressing
enjoy the rope when you hit 40 tbhon

Wait, is Boy George redpilled?

This too.

Lucifer main sin was pride which lead to rebellion against God. He wanted to be equal to God. This lead to war in Heaven and the fall of Lucifer and many other angels. Main sin is clear from words: Non Serviam (I will not serve). Transgenderism and transhumanism are rebellion too. Rebellion against God's assignment, rebellion against human nature and against natural law. While we are all broken because of original sin we shall pray for mercy and adhere to natural law, instead of letting our desires to rulle us and cause of to rebel against God and follow footsteps of father of lies

define man's clothing and woman's clothing pls

I don't even understand how transgender is a thing

I don't "feel" male. I don't feel female either. I'm just a consciousness inhabiting a body that happens to be male. I can't even fathom what it means to "feel like a male/female"

>Implying pursuing poor lifestyles is not a choice and others who have such desires should not be encouraged in ruining their life

apparently

It happens in the end stages of civilizational collapse.

Healthy civilizations have the will to discipline their members, believe in their values, and uphold standards of decency. As they age and rot, they become liberal and dissipated, and just let anyone do anything because they don't care about anything but their immediate comfort and relief of boredom.

When nothing has any meaning, why not cut your balls off and be a girl? Why not invite strangers to fuck your wife while you watch and jerk off? Why guard the borders? Why not feed those who don't work? Why not honor actors and musicians over serious men? Why not let women vote, and promote them to high office? Why not let wives divorce their husbands? Why teach your children to honor your ancestors? Why live, when there's no meaning and no future?

In modern times or biblical times?
Modern times trousers are male, skirts/dresses are female.

What if it’s AIDS evolving to control people’s minds to make them get AIDS

I've been saying this shit for years. Where's all the (((MILLIONS
))) OF TRANSGENDERS in history??? why the fuck are they lying trying to say this shit has always been around?

blown the fuck out

One of the possible explanations for homosexuality I've read is actually parasitic.
>Female mice are more susceptible to Taenia crassiceps (TC) infection than males. However, after a month parasite load increases massively in both genders reaching thousands of parasites per host. The possibility of hormonal changes in the infected mice was envisaged. Sex hormones levels were assayed after different periods of infection, the parasites present in the peritoneal cavity were collected and gonads, uterus and seminal vesicles were weighed. In male mice, serum estradiol increased to levels 200 times their normal values whilst those of testosterone decreased 90% relative to controls.
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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7779761

Free will user

There are a lot of famous FTM people, they just aren’t open about it.

It's a trend that exploded because dumb dickheads decided to take crazy man-hating feminists seriously instead of telling them to shut the fuck up.

its not about "feeling" female people who say dumb shit like that are retards. its about treating body and societal dysphoria and (sadly) transitioning is the only successful method that supports that at the moment.

saying someone feels female is another way of saying they feel dysphoric expressing a male gender role or having a male body (something which is measurable).

pursuing lifestyles is a choice but having dysphoria isn't and at the moment the only way to lessen the pain of dysphoria is to transition

why dont depressed people just stop being depressed and hanging themselves lol

>famous
>just aren't open about it

m8

There is no such thing as 'transition', just as there is no such thing as 'transgender'. The term implies a belief in something not possible. You cannot change your gender (which is determined at conception when the sperm and egg bind). Doing so would require a heavy amount of genetic engineering. What you call 'transition' is major mutilation and poisoning yourself with the wrong hormones. If I'm not mistaken studies show 'post op' trannies displaying similar rates of suicide /depression as 'pre op'.

doesn't mean they're not mentally ill

>Just stop being depressed
>Implying the vast majority of 'mental illness' symptoms are not life style/physical health in nature
Most cases of depression/anxiety these days are caused by improper sleep patterns. For women they suffer stress/massive anxiety when put into any position where they're expected to make their own decisions/be independent.

I won't hang myself cause it is wrong just like transition. I have this choice.

Of course it is a trend/fad. I have zero doubts that there are people with various mental, experiential, and hormonal issues though. Normalizing it just shifts the issue and doesn't address anything which is why the suicide rates, depression, etc. are sky high.

Coming out as gay was made out to be a heroic thing, so it became trendy to experiment and come out even if you went straight again 2 months later. Then being gay became nothing special, so 50 genders became a thing. But the novelty wore off, especially since it required no effort, so actual physical changes are the current peak of virtue signalling - if not for yourself, for your kids (also known as Munchausen by proxy).

i get scientifically Good Sleep and i have severe depression/anxiety problems. yeah, i feel better when i actually sleep well but it doesnt make the depression go away.

Yes, much like retarded trump supporters.

What's the source on that because this sounds like a whole lot of shit when it gets to the Arabs. All I seem to find for it is Who "Do We Choose To Be?: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, Restoring Sanity" By Margaret J. Wheatley.

Gotta keep in mind any idiot can come up with fake quotes and terms. See the whole "average spiders eaten by someone asleep" or the supposed Aristoltean/Sumerian "Kids today dont' respect their elders" copypasta.

For one the author calls it "Arab Empire", when in the 10th century it was split up into Abbasid, Saffarid, Qarmatians, Emirates in North Africa and Umayyad. Which Arab Empire? Which Caliph? Which Caliphs issued orders? I know pop singers did exist in Andalusia but Ibn Bessam is writing about al-Andalus who was invaded in the 11th century by Moors and Christians, not the Abbasids in Iraq who were invaded by Turkmen and Daylami

Also the Roman height of female rule was the 1st century AD, they gave women less power/authority when they became Christian and yet they crumbled after they became Christian.

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>is transgenderism a trend?
Yes, it always was.

This.

See Thailand for example. They have a huge trans population and just like in Brazil, many become such for sex work because they're emasculated and not cut out to be proper men.

The same is now happening in the west.

If fags don't procreate? how is the gay population growing?

They havent got the Butt baby pill yet?

>I get scientifically good sleep
Keep in mind that proper sleep is not just x amount of hours, but when you sleep to. 6hrs you get during the night will be better quality then 10hrs you may get during the day. Our internal circadian rhythms are toned to the rising/setting of the sun. Modern technology (such as lights on in the bedroom, or having a phone light up) tricks your body into thinking it's 'day' time which is why we can feel tired but have difficulty going to bed. Ideally you want to be getting between 8-12hrs a night (range depends upon energy output during the day, and age) anywhere between the sun setting and sun rising.

If you're still feeling symptoms of depression, consider changing your diet/regular physical activity. Otherwise if you use drugs or drink, look into quitting.

Funnily enough, there is another historical example of transgenderism: Weimar Germany.

Because you'd dress up, hit on a girl, take her home, fuck her, and be normal the next day.

Not call yourself Unicornfart Rainbow and get you penis chopped off in Thailand.

i take medication specifically designed to induce rem sleep because i have clinical insomnia. you dont need to tell me how important it is to have your room completely dark, low temp, only use it for sleeping etc because i do literally everything youre supposed to do. getting good sleep definitely makes day to day tasks less draining but its not going to cure your depression unless you have some like super weak case or something in which case you can probably just nut the fuck up out of it.

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>What's the source on that
It's in the picture at the top (The fate of empires by John Glubb)
pdf if you're interested
people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

>A whole lot of shit when it gets to the Arabs
The Caliphates fell for similar reasons to the Roman empire. It's not surprising if you where under the impression the eastern civilizations where very different then the western ones.

You're right in that transition doesn't make someone another gender, it's simply an attempt to appear as that gender. People that think otherwise are idiots.

However, for people with real GID transition greatly reduces the rate of suicide among them. Lots of trannies dont even try to pass and they're content with just having the "correct" hormones in them.

Transition is a crude archaic treatment to a very real menal health problem.

Count yourself lucky your dysphoria isnt as bad as some then

also
Results We identified 28 eligible studies. These studies enrolled 1833 participants with GID (1093 male-to-female, 801 female-to-male) who underwent sex reassignment that included hormonal therapies. All the studies were observational and most lacked controls. Pooling across studies shows that after sex reassignment, 80% of individuals with GID reported significant improvement in gender dysphoria (95% CI = 68–89%; 8 studies; I2 = 82%); 78% reported significant improvement in psychological symptoms (95% CI = 56–94%; 7 studies; I2 = 86%); 80% reported significant improvement in quality of life (95% CI = 72–88%; 16 studies; I2 = 78%); and 72% reported significant improvement in sexual function (95% CI = 60–81%; 15 studies; I2 = 78%).

onlinelibrary . wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x/abstract

Women are a reflection of their men, and the health of a society is a reflection of the descendants of the men who founded it. The only thing we need to do to rebuild our societies is to fix the men.

dressing like a chick makes a man a fag not a woman

FEMININE BENIS PTFO

The difference is that while they dressed odd, they never claimed to be anything other than men.

>How is the gay population growing
Because despite public conception, it is a choice.

>Up to 80 primary school-aged children a year are now seeking help towards potentially changing their gender, the chair of Mermaids, a charity which lobbies for families who believe their children and teenagers are transgendered, has revealed.

Speaking to the Telegraph, Susie Green said that, in some cases, British children as young as four are already in the process of “transitioning” to another sex.
breitbart.com/london/2015/12/28/transgender-fad-rapidly-spreading-primary-schools-clusters-emerging-children-copy-friends/

Wait until the public finds out about the ZOG eugenics program in america