>I don’t see any adults here in Japan. The fact that you see salarymen reading manga and pornography on the trains and being unafraid, unashamed or anything, is something you wouldn’t have seen 30 years ago, with people who grew up under a different system of government. They would have been far too embarrassed to open a book of cartoons or dirty pictures on a train. But that’s what we have now in Japan. We are a country of children.
Why does he think this is bad? He claims he wants anime (and the audience) to grow up, but what exactly does it mean? Does he actually think everything should be serious or something? It sounds like another extreme, another exaggeration, which I'm not sure would be that good. I thought it was about variety, and this statement seems weird. I see no reason why someone shouldn't enjoy something like that as long as they're not obsessed with it and/or it's not the only thing available.
I don’t see any adults here in Japan...
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Since OP is trolling, let's just focus on this line.
>>I don’t see any adults here in Japan.
Would you support a motion to transform all Japanese over the age of 30 back into high schoolers?
I'm not trolling, my questions are sincere.
>and pornography on the trains
Do they really? Why?
Why not? It's Japan.
In case you didn't write that fake quote, you should be aware that it was just as common for Japanese in 1986 to read manga on trains than it is today.
In fact, manga sales have been dropping lately.
source the link to that interview first, faggit.
Because it's super fucking cringy to see people looking at cartoon porn in a crowded public place. It definitely speaks to arrested development.
Also bear in mind that as a self-hating semi-reformed otaku Anno would have a lot of hate for things that remind him of the tendencies he was ashamed of in himself, like hentai addiction.
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It is a real quote, from more than 10 years ago iirc. Before the Rebuilds started.
Because it's childish and in the past everyone looked down on manchildren. The infantilization of modern adults is indeed something relatively new.
Because they are probably not masturbating on the train. Why would you read porn without jacking off?
>in the past everyone looked down on manchildren
Now it's more apathy. Feminism is to blame for this
>they are probably not
It's Japan. A Japanese train.
>The infantilization of modern adults is indeed something relatively new.
We are in a pretty weird place where the biggest mainstream entertainment events for the masses are movies about superheroes fighting generic villains who want to destroy the world.
>It is a real quote, from more than 10 years ago iirc.
Source.
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Stop it with the jokes, they aren't doing that.
That's because all mass media is aimed at teenagers. It's not new, if you're over 18 you're culturally irrelevant.
Except the teenagers are now 25-30 years old.
>This is what Sup Forums actually believes Japan is like
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This quote would imply Anno himself isn't doing the "go on with your life" thing, wouldn't it?
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What do you mean? Are you implying the quote is made up?
Extended adolescence is a natural side effect of the economic crash.
Got a source for that quote?
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CS Lewis was a very gentlemanly, mature man who had an interest (and a career in) children's fiction. He was also very well read and educated. He can get away with it.
Is Anno a westaboo?
You niggers are worse than reddit.
That sounds forced. I think it's because media (and porn) is more easily available than it used to be.
>Also bear in mind that as a self-hating semi-reformed otaku Anno would have a lot of hate for things that remind him of the tendencies he was ashamed of in himself, like hentai addiction.
Yes, that makes sense, but the quote by itself seems more than that.
It's not about "getting away with it", it's about what we personally think is right or how tings should be.
>The fact that you see salarymen reading manga and pornography on the trains and being unafraid, unashamed or anything
That sounds pretty based, actually.
Why would you want to look at porn in public, though? You can't masturbate unless you hide, so what's the point?
>Japan is literally a nation of autistic beta manchildren
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
Damnit. I can't find the old Japanese ads where ereaders were promoted under the premise that people wouldn't recognize you as the creep you are while you are reading hentai on trains.
That's exactly why I made the thread. Apart from porn, which I think should be kept private, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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That's the one.
Just the fact that they can and don't give a shit how they're looked at makes it great.
I thought that's a philosophy that Americans liked?
Same arrested development phenomena is happening in other countries too. Japan is just a bit ahead.
There aren't a whole lot of Americans online right now.
The current population of Sup Forums is the reason why late night Sup Forums is dead.
>Guy who writes children's books defends his profession
Us Americans have this concept of "consideration". If you infringe on someone's right to be comfortable by exposing your slimy genitals in public, they (or rather, the authorities) can return the favor.
>Us Americans have this concept of "consideration".
No you don't.
Ironic coming from the guy who turned Gainax to shit.
>Wings of Honneamise
Literally the greatest anime film of all time. A truly beautiful and ambitious film, tastefully done and with a good message.
>Gunbuster
>Nadia
>Evangelion
>FLCL
>Gurren Lagann
All bullshit that panders to waifufags with no standards.
What happened?
>Us Americans have this concept of "consideration".
City dwellers aren't real Americans.
Japan predicts the trends, always.
Excluding the porn part, what's wrong with it? What are the supposedly bad consequences? I don't get his point.
So does this mean I can play on my Vita while travelling on train, since he doesn't seem to have a problem with that?
Holy shit that's a depressing read. Why is Japan filled with spineless faggots?
Only children would care about what some fucking stranger on a train reads. I watch shitty harem anime on my phone on the bus every week, why the fuck should other people care as long as I'm wearing earphones?
He is right. Japanese culture used to be dominated by middle class values and upper-middle class counter-culture.
Japanese purchasing power faltered and that strengthenged yankii (lower class wannabe gangsters) and otaku (nerd losers), because they can't cut back on pop-culture spending. It's their raison d'être.
That's why current Japan produces moe pedo trash which is hard to export. Japan Cool had universal appeal because its products were rooted in the West. Without demanding middle class and competitive market it's lost its edge.
This.
Why should I hate that user when there's bitches who have to phone for 2 hours in the loudest voice possible or a nigger who lets everyone in the train know what kind of shit taste he has?
Yes, it's socially more acceptable but it's also much more annoying.
Why did their purchasing power falter?
I don't see anything wrong with this other than the porn part.
On that note, I went there myself and never really saw people doing anything on the trains other than reading newspapers or checking their phones.
What are they, Europeans?
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More or less, just more aggressive versions.
They're just Americans.
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The asset price bubble burst.
>checking unaimed for gets
Sharpshooter's fallacy at its finest.
Aren't middle class people going to be poor at this rate?
>before the rebuilds
Well now he's made 3 Evangelion movies and funded the Nausicaa god warrior short to promote a dying filming method, pretty sure he's changed his mind since then.
I can guarantee you most passengers would be pissed at people like them as you are, but nobody wants to speak out because speaking out against some cunt or nigger is guaranteed to stir up some SJW bullshit.
Living in Japan is so horrible i'm not surprised that they need heavy form of escapism.
>I don’t see any adults here in Japan. The fact that you see directors reusing their own works on their interpretations of cultural icons and being unafraid, unashamed or anything, is something you wouldn’t have seen 30 years ago, with people who grew up under a different system of government. They would have been far too embarrassed to advertise a classic movie character by using their own brand. But that’s what we have now in Japan. We are a country of children.
This shit writes itself Anno, all of your idol directors would be spinning in their graves for your shameless hypocrisy and branding.
With everything said, Japan is still in a much better state than NA and Europe.
But I think that goes without saying.
Why do you think that?
By what measure?
Anno is known for criticizing the people who consume his media. Note Evangelion.
>I don't get his point
I think he saw it as a sign of the infantilization of the society. With people being more like a children means that they're going to neglect their responsibilities that were expected to be fulfilled by the society. When people are like that the society won't hold long for a long time.
The measure of Mall Cleanliness.
I want to fuck that tile-floor.
Sort of like the Evangelion characters didn't grow up between parts 2 and 3, because recognizable characters sell more random figures and shit.
What a spineless, two-faced hack.
>no dark-skinned people
What a blessed place.
Read the full interview. He's commenting on people's love for Rei, and considers it a sign of the Japanese's (post-war) submissive nature. That's he considers "childish' there - that passive nature.
It seems like he really dislikes the American bases in Japanese soil and how most Japanese are just fine with being protected by a foreign power.
>He is right. Japanese culture used to be dominated by middle class values and upper-middle class counter-culture.
No, read the interview. Anno thinks Japanese culture has been problematic ever since they lost the war, since it meant that various generations grew without adult role models and that trend just went from one generation to the next.
He still said that reading manga in public is bad though, which isn't exactly related to it.
Hulk-kun is overrated.
This. No one cares what you do in your own apartment but if you're outside you behave and don't act like an autist.
Why couldn't they just respect the soldiers who fought but lost? Crazies in the American south did it.
Retarded amerifat.
I agree on the part about reading porn in public, but exactly why is reading manga a bad thing?
Addition: if he argues that manga are "childish" and so adults shouldn't be reading them, he's more childish than the "manchildren" he's criticizing. Anyone who thinks there's an age limit to enjoy certain products didn't get past the mindset of a retarded teenager, where you have to prove to your peers you are a "real man".
Pathetic, and I even like NGE.
Don't believe the quote, the guy just made a Godzilla movie.
Real men live only to work. They are drones for the banker's economic system.
Uh, no.
If you have no consumers then your economy collapses and the men can't work because there are no jobs left.
I don't know you guys, but I check sadpanda everyday and check the new things I see interesting. So I watch several doujins and manga without faping to them. You know, you can "read" them without masturbating.
>every single working person throughout history was just "the banker's drone"
But is reading porn in public really acceptable in Japan? Maybe we should ask the Japs on Sup Forums about it.
You can read anything you want in public as long as you don't bother anyone with it.
The real autists are the people who will tell you it's wrong to do so because it looks "weird".
Well, as long as other people don't see it it's ok. I mean, it's because it's something that can easily bother people around you.
Reading porn in public isn't acceptable in any civilized country in the world. I don't think most people READ porn nowadays anyways.
Yeah, you think you won't bother the person next to you if you start reading porn? Have some common sense.
Men have to consume to survive to keep working.
No, it's mostly a post-Bretton Woods system phenomena (1971+)
You can share the porn like gentlemen.
Hey, if you are in a position where other people can't see what you're looking at it can't bother them, can it?
>you think you won't bother the person next to you
Yes.
I don't know if you travel by train that much, but I do, and I can tell everyone's minding their own business and won't even look at or even aknowledge the existence of their temporary neighbor.