On Welfare

Prove this guy wrong Sup Forums.

The only full time workers that qualify for welfare programs are those who irresponsibly have children despite their severe poverty so for this problem the main issue to look at disincentives companies have to hire people full time.

If there were no government, there wouldn't be any welfare, and employees could easily convince companies to pay them fairly the old fashioned way.

Ah yes, the good old "Walmart Strategy"

This reads:

I don't contribute to society by adding anything of value, but wish to extract value from society.

He's actually right, but simply has the wrong conclusion. The solution is getting rid of welfare so Corporations are forced to provide good wages and can't depend on the government to subsidize their low wages.

First of all define value. Secondly, shouldn't people get a wage from any job that can support them enough not to get on welfare?

>stop having kids white goyim
Options:
1. redefine our fiat currency value accordingly (truth is money issues are all horseshit cause technically money has no intrinsic worth anymore and economics operates on arbitrary basis)
2. Levy excess profits tax if they don't do full profit sharing amongst all employees.

Unskilled workers need to work full time to "support" themselves. Full time workers don't qualify for social benefits.

That'll just drive a lot of businesses bankrupt and kill jobs.

fine

Most workers on benefits with full time jobs call over 3 to 4 times per month. They aren't hurting for money.

Growing up in a white trash family is torture for children. If you can't afford your children you shouldn't have them regardless of skin color.

I got married, bought a house for 125k (worth 200k now) had a baby boy, and quit my job. We earned 120k two years ago, now our combined income is 24,000.

We still have all our toys, our house, and we get free everything + $360 in food stamps monthly. Its a fucking dream. Neither of us work, and we just homeschool this fuckface while spending quality time together.

Why would you work ALL the time?

I'm an unironic national socialist and I completely agree. Of course, there will be some subset of the population which is unable to provide labor of a value sufficient to cover living expenses, these people should be well taken care of by the state, but will need to be sterilized in order to prevent the growth of a hereditary underclass.

>The solution is getting rid of welfare so Corporations are forced to provide good wages and can't depend on the government to subsidize their low wages.
There's no earthly reason to suppose ending welfare would cause wages to rise. In fact, the deadweight drop in spending would cause a self-reinforcing drop employment and income in a feedback loop.

It's actually a government problem. It's subsidization of wages by the government that results in such low wages. Should people realize they require more to survive due to no government assistance then they will demand it, but due to the safety net that is welfare they will accept lower wages. At the end of the day we're subsidizing large businesses with taxpayer money because of bleeding heart nonsense.
So long as people have that safety net then they'll say to themselves "well, at least I'll have SNAP/benefits/etc to get by". No struggle, no strive.

Your wage is the value of the goods or services you provide.

People who do menial tasks shouldn't be living beyond their means.

If he's concerned about that, he should also be concerned about illegal immigration, where businesses pay slave wages to mexicans, and then the taxpayer subsidizes the difference through welfare paid to illegals. Theft.

That's bullshit and you're a fucking retard.
The decrease in welfare should be met with a decrease in taxation thus allowing more money to be spent per worker. This woud allow businesses to meet the higher wage requirements and more than likely expand their operations.
>kekistani flag
you niggers are the stupidest faggots. Go kill yourself.

Who is the artist for this picture?
I want to feel nostalgia for a place that doesn't exist.

Ooops, he doesn't care about that, he cares about his own people alone. He considers white wealth redistribution to be a virtue.

They don't know what that means, dude.

Liberal corporations have been caught doing this ironically enough.

Mother Jones I think or some shit told their employees to get on welfare.

It's from Man in the High Castle and there's actually a word for that, hiraeth.

When people don't need to worry about living paycheck to paycheck and working 50+ hours per week, they have more free time to pursue their interests and find their niche, which is how these corporations and small companies are formed in the first place. It's all a vicious cycle, and changing one thing doesn't necessarily fix the variable you're trying to fix.

Doing away with taxes would basically eliminate the need for any social welfare programs. Taxes kill business. Property taxes make home owning and rent very expensive. It makes cost of living go up. get rid of most taxes
and it enables society to function with families providing for themselves and only a strict group of people (disabled) would be eligible while able bodies would only get unemployment (which helps them get off of it fast by finding work).
Imagine if the cost of living dropped 20% and taxes were down to 7% with yearly returns. You could rent or own, eat drive and would be keeping way more of our pay check. I pay between a quarter and a third of my check in taxes. Cost of living is outrageous. But if everyone was working and living was cheaper and taxes were gone then there would be no need for social welfare programs regardless of what companies pay.

>Calling your son a fuckface even ironically

Stop, 27 year old father.

A worker gets paid what it would cost to replace them. If a worker wants to make more money, they need to differentiate themselves and add value so that they are harder to replace.

Unskilled labor has less and less use these days and eventually there will be little to no use for unskilled labor due to automation and AI; the majority of the workforce will literally be useless in a couple of decades.

I think that its from the previous wolfenstein game.

He can read and write at 4 and already loves to make dirty jokes and lyrics about farts. This fucker is going to be a college graduate at 12 then support his deadbeat parents

>homeschooling

Great, now your kid is going to be as retarded as you are.

>this fuckface
>falling for the kids are evil meme

You don't have a constitution faggot

Is it just a strictly IQ 140+ thing to refer lovingly to family members are fuckfaces or retards?

Welfare allows employers to pay shitskins less than it costs to pay rent to the slumlord and feed their huge litters.

Those few white men who haven't been driven out of the formal economy get to pay for it.

As usual, the solution is to build the wall, make the shitskins go back and force businesses to start white men a wage allowing them to support families.

>The decrease in welfare should be met with a decrease in taxation thus allowing more money to be spent per worker
Utter nonsense. Low wage workers spend greater than the percentage they pay in payroll taxes on basic necessities. Eliminating payroll taxes will still leave them at a substantial loss of income (including benefits) resulting in a deadweight loss in economic spending and economic contraction. Given that the MPC of higher income earners is substantially lower than lower income people, their spending will not be enough to offset the deadweight loss in spending to prevent a recession. This is simple stuff.

>This [would] allow businesses to meet the higher wage requirements and more than likely expand their operations.
Again, there is no earthly reason to suppose they would raise wages. Your plan would simply create a lot of desperately poor people who will actually be more willing to work for literal peanuts.

>you niggers are the stupidest faggots. Go kill yourself.
I know it's probably intimidating to try and debate with an intellectual superior, but you're embarrassing yourself.

Fake and gay. Your wife would leave you and take the kid if your income dropped from $120k to $24k

We dated for 5 years before we got married. Its a tremendous scam because we wanted to focus on our relationship and family, instead of making as much money as possible before we are too old to enjoy anything.

I complained about wanting to work again and she just showed me photos from out last vacation, since we go monthly

And it was combined income you faggot

I mean really, you think if I was pulling in 120k I would have EVER had time to fucking date anything? Jesus christ what a retaaaaaaard

>You should be able to support a family of 4 on a single part-time job.

This again:
Oy vey in the in vey!

Envy isn't a suitable basis for a political philosophy.