Sup Forums I need your help

Sup Forums I need your help.

I might have a shot at dating a communist. She's pretty cool as a person so far and I'm warming up to her. Only problem is I'm not that informed when it comes to communism and why it's a shit ideology and she is doing political studies in Uni while I'm working a full time job, so I might be a bit out of my depth here.
Please give me some bullet points or anti communist reading material so I can have a shot at red pilling her in order to procreate with her and have lots of babies to continue the white race.

How do you believe it's a shit ideology if you don't know why you damn pleb, cause everyone else told you?

You faggots even want your arguments spoon fed to you

Also unironically what this guy said. Not only does it take years to understand communism, it takes almost as long to untangle that fucking mess of empty dialectics, sophistry and looped logic.

If you can't attack communism yourself then don't attack it, you'll only make yourself seem like a fool. Convincing someone their ideology is bad is seriously hard work and you need more than a few bullet points from Sup Forums.

Just relax and don't be too political if you don't know your shit.

Girls abandon their politics for the tiniest things if they're in a relationship.
Chances are she'll fuck up a relationship long before enough time would have passed for that to take place, though.

She's a communist out of ideals, not out of facts. Discussing the facts is useless.
Get her to care about tradition and race, and she's no longer a communist. That's how everyone works, not just communists.

But trust a commie student girl (almost a cliche) to be a total worthless slut that will be insufferable until she ruins it by cheating or making herself look ugly.

I get that its shit because it doesn't give people the incentive or motivation to better themselves and make an effort in the things they are doing. I'm also aware that communist countries are shitholes which end up with dictators who oppress the citizens and end up multi multi millionaires while the citizens are working for like 20 cents a day, like in Cuba.

But like I said, I could use some reading material to get a bit more informed.

Whoop. Honeypot thread for an antifa slideshow at some worthless university.

You seem to know an awful lot for a guy who doesn't know anything.

Show your flag, faggot

I thought that was sloppy as fuck. Maybe I can blag my way through a conversation with her after all

Still any help would be appreciated

Read Marx. Then read his critics. Then read the critics of those critics.
That's how Philosophy works.

I haven't really got time to do all that shit. I'm after something like a series of documentaries on the truth about communism that I can use to get a bit more savvy. The only thing that I'm worried about is that she's taking politics in Uni, otherwise I'd assume she's a go with the flow diversity loving fruitcake like most people my age (I'm a millennial) and I'd probably be able to take her down. Also I'm capable of forming my own opinions on things if I'm presented with all the facts.

I'm on my phone now, just went for a smoke

Kill yourself

Stick it in her pooper and post pics.

She's a whore, don't worry about debating her.

Gotta love Sup Forums
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE JEWS AND COMMUNISTS AND DESTRUCTION OF WHITE RACE"
>asks for a tiny redpill
>gets nothing

nice ID James

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All of Marxist literature is predicated on the labor theory of value, which basically says that the amount of labor put into the creation of a product is diametrically correlated with the monetary value of that product. Marx thought that the since the laborer's wage was not equivalent to the value of the product, the laborer is being unjustly robbed by the profiteer in that the he not being payed for the full value of his work. This is the basis of his critique of capitalism. The entire thing is bunk though.

>I haven't really got time to do all that shit. I'm after something like a series of documentaries on the truth about communism.
If she actually knows her shit (most so-called "communists" don't), you're in for a hard wake-up.

fucking thank you very much

It doesn't work is a good starter. If she presses it ask sincerely when it has worked.

red pill me then bro, I've got time today

Even commies who know their shit suck at forming cogent arguments about their core beliefs, so that's misleading of you to say.

Study Mussolini's life. He went from being a dumb socialist faggot to a fascist nationalist. Learn from his transition, apply it to your pinko gf, record observations, post the full study on Sup Forums so we can also learn how to convert dumb leftist cunts into desirable fascist women.

>the labor theory of value, which basically says that the amount of labor put into the creation of a product is diametrically correlated with the monetary value of that product.
No. What is correlated with the price of the product is the amount of labour *socially necessary* for its creation.

>Marx thought that the since the laborer's wage was not equivalent to the value of the product, the laborer is being unjustly robbed by the profiteer in that the he not being payed for the full value of his work.
No. Marx found out that the value the worker personally puts into the product (which is inferior to the value of the product) was superior to his wage. He called this "exploitation" yeah, but any moral judgement is irrelevant here.

>No. What is correlated with the price of the product is the amount of labour *socially necessary* for its creation.
This is a trivial distinction for the purposes of this argument, considering that the principle flaw in the labor theory of value persists irrespective of how the labor is valued in different technological and economic contexts.

>No. Marx found out that the value the worker personally puts into the product (which is inferior to the value of the product) was superior to his wage. He called this "exploitation" yeah, but any moral judgement is irrelevant here.
Again, though a marginally more faithful depiction of Marx's thesis, not really pertinent to addressing the criticisms leveled at the theory of value that underpins the concept of exploitation. I don't really see how this isn't tantamount to what I'm already saying honestly.

See OP this is what happens when you try to debate them in their terms. Just do

find a better woman

>the principle flaw in the labor theory of value persists irrespective of how the labor is valued in different technological and economic contexts.
It's like saying one cannot measure any distance in meters because some people use kilometers, miles, feet, etc.
Any complex labour can be expressed as a multiple of simple, abstract labour.

>See OP this is what happens when you try to debate them in their terms.
What? They talk back?

I'm a millennial living in a progressive area in England. How do I find a white supremacist conservative girl my own age? I'm not moving away. Seems impossible to me.

Why do you care about her political opinions anyway?

Because I know what I believe in and it isn't communistic special snowflake identity politics, which is exactly what she seems to believe in.

But she's fit m8

>But she's fit m8
So why do you care? Do you intend to redpill the whole world? No? So why can't she be among those you don't redpill?

If that's the case, why does anyone talk politics ever? Nobody is going to redpill the whole the world, so we might as well just all shut up right?

But here politics seems to get in the way of you finding a "fit m8". You can still debate politics with literally anyone else, commie or not. Just saying this for you.

Tbh the idea that she's a commie is kind of a turn on for me anyway. I'm centre left and a bit white nationalist MRA little Englander type. It'd make for good banter.

I guess I'm not too fussed, but I know how the hard left and hard right are when it comes to us vs them and if she's like that then I'm either fucked before I even start or I've got to be able to hold my own against her. That's why I wanted to brush up

What. Look, the problem is that labor isn't what determines the value of a product at all. This whole model was supplanted by an economic theory called subjectivism, meaning that the value of a product is arbitrary. Labor as contributing at all to a product's value does a poor job of explaining dozens of things on the market. Read all about.