An attack on Christianity is yet another attack on Western values and beliefs. Who are the ones who hate it the most?
> normies (athiests)
> Muslims
> Jews
I'm no Christian but I sometimes feel the pull. Look at China for what happens when there is no God. Look at the Middle East where Christianity is the minority religion.
How can anyone believe that Christianity is a bad thing for society?
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>Muslims
>hating Christianity
Ummmm no sweetie, also
>Christianity
>Western
Ummmm no sweetie
Because it's weak. Be a good person on your own. If humans can't be good boys on their own, they don't deserve to thrive.
It's embarrassing to think a fucking book from Thousands of years ago with complete bullshit written inside is controlling masses and scaring people. No, humans don't deserve to live if they still need help
I still don´t get why all your Christcucks think that the ideas of a dirty, middle eastern shitskin are somehow western? Jesus was a fucking kike! The bible is THE book of the kikes, telling THEIR story. How is this our value? We are Rome, we are Vikings, we are Celts, We are ancient greece. Why the fuck is that desert nonsense our religion? It´s an occupation, nothing else. The West isn´t docile, >turn the other cheek< pacifist. We are rational, warrior- poets by default. We are inventers and conquerors. Christianity is stangnation! Hail the West, we are our own gods.
Fpbp
Maybe Germany isnt lost after all.
>We are rational, warrior- poets by default. We are inventers and conquerors. Christianity is stangnation! Hail the West, we are our own gods.
>Taking credit for things other people did
Christianity turned Germany into civilization though, before it was a bunch of subhumans running around in the forest raping bears and shoving squirrels up their asses in degenerate rituals
Of course it isn´t brother. Society works in cycles. We are at the very end of this age, the age of post-modern relativism. People, especially the youngest generations are desperately searching for meaning and identity. You will be surprised how normies will turn radically soon. In 30 years you won´t recognize our country anymore. It will not be a Hitlerdeutschland 2.0 but something with strong identitarian values. It will only get better from here on. We are the spearhead of this movement and we must make sure it goes in the right direction. Civil war and genocides should be avoided at all costs. Our ideas must not be tainted like the last time when Germany was searching for identity.
>I'm no Christian
Why not?
>An attack on Christianity is yet another attack on Western values and beliefs.
Christianity is Middle East values and beliefs.
Just like Judaism
Just like Islam
Fuck off Mohammed!
>Murican education
>I'm no Christian but I sometimes feel the pull.
Fix it.
>How can anyone believe that Christianity is a bad thing for society?
Because they hate society.
Irreligious societies never survive, and nor do divided ones. Irreligious societies will ALWAYS lose out or make their own religions of statism, communism, or similar.
And why do we Brits always give Germanic gods a pass? They were here later than Christianity, which has been here since at least the 3rd century that I know of. Germanic paganism was from around the 6th until the 7th for the most part.
t. kangz
I must (not so respectfully) disagree. As an archaeologist I can assure you that my forebears weren´t savages. Perhaps a little education would do you well. en.wikipedia.org
Perhaps also consider that not every part of Europe was always at the same place in the metaphorical development hierarchy but rather moved up and down through the ages. While the germanic, celtic forests of Central Europe were lagging a bit behind the great civilizations of the Mediterranean around the birth of Christ, 40.000 years ago what is todays southern Germany was the absolute spearhead of development inventing the first known figurative art, musical instruments and certain hunting tools on the planet. en.wikipedia.org
>Irreligious societies never survive
What you are trying to say but fail to express is that societies without VALUES never survive. I completely agree with that theory. Christianity isn´t the only value available on the market of belief systems though, you are aware that, right?
idk why people hate christianity i just think they have a problem with morality when you get down to it.
Indeed. But irreligious societies never survive either. Often for the simple fact that the irreligious don't have children at an above-replacement threshold.
Look at modern Japan. Values but highly irreligious.
>Who are the ones who hate it the most?
Jews
Any time you invoke the deeds of anyone who ins´t you, let´s say Christ for example, you take credit for things other people did. It´s the whole point of historical identity. Why must I even explain this? You CAN be proud of the achievements of your tribe because you are the product of your tribe and therefor the direct result of your forebears sweat and tears. If you think otherwise you are nothing but a post-modern shill promoting their soul destroying individualism and relativism.
Fuck your shitty religion. All it ever did was the destruction of Western values and beliefs. It never ever united Europe (over 9000 religious wars among Christfags themselves, as well as crusades against European pagans). If not for your bullshit, we would never have the Dark Ages (named such for a good reason).
Can be if by irreligious you mean post-modern individualism without a moral compass. Ancient western paganism, japanese animism, even spartan militarism or athenian rationalism are belief systems. You don´t need the desert sky fairy for that.
This is along the right lines for a lot of people. Many people don't want to be judged. They're like women in that way. They don't want to be held accountable for the things that they have done.
Which, let's face it, is an understandable thing.
Many others also have unresolved family issues and take it out on God; they are also likely to have unresolved societal issues and be the same. People will give "rational and logical" explanations for their lack of belief, but for the vast majority of them, when you get down to the nitty-gritty, it's not the case: it's usually based on an emotional response to an event or unresolved issue that can affect them.
Of course, I'm a psychopath, so empathy and morality don't work like that for me.
>dark ages
>real
>over 9000
Biggest keks.
Japan is extremely collectivist. It's not individualist.
>are belief systems.
Nobody said they weren't. Perhaps literacy isn't your strong point.
Read what was said, think about it, and come back.
Workers won't go to Heaven.
We should ban religion from /pol. You have your own fucking board, enjoy yourselves there
You're the one with the flag of thieves and murderers and you have the audacity to lecture others on morality. Fuck off nig nog
Not an argument. Religion IS political.
If you have a problem with religion there is always r/atheism for you.
I am aware that Japan is colectivist. You were equating low birth rates with irreligious societies and named Japan as an example. I simply disagree with your analysis of the reasons for that phenomena (low birth rate) and I thought that I was clear from the way I phrased my sentence without having to spell it out. I thought that by irreligous you meant individualist without a moral compass. Japan isn´t any of that and it isn´t irreligous in the absolute meaning of the word either. Temple attendance in Japan is much higher than Church visits in Western Europe for example and if you know japanese you know that they do take their Shinto very serious still. Low birth rates correlate more with economic development and they follow a certain trend in almost all societies. Just like in the West, birth rates will pick up again in Japan as soon as they completed their demographical cylce, I would guess in about 5-15 years from now.
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That study is from 2009 and the birth rates among native Germans have since picked up theguardian.com
Same phenomena all over the West.
Not entirely true. While being well-off does decrease birth rates due to a lack of necessity to have many kids as most will survive past childhood and not requiring hands to do it, religious families still have significantly more children.
While Japan still does their religious "practices", they don't believe them. It's mindless custom. It's the same reason why they leave the villages for the cities: others are doing it. Again, collectivism.
>Who are the ones who hate it the most?
You forgot Europeans who still have some dignity intact.
>Look at China for what happens when there is no God. Look at the Middle East where Christianity is the minority religion.
Look at Haiti for what happens when Christianity is 96% of the population.
Woah, I really want that.
Man, if only Zambia could be more Christian then they'd be living in paradise like Haiti. Amazing what a difference 0.5% makes!
But hey, at least those Zambians still have something that resembles buildings, those poor Rhodesians have to sleep under tarps because so few of them accepted rabbi Jeshua bar Joseph as their LORD and savior.
I presume you are talking about religiously inspired fertility, like the Amish, making children because your god tells you to? Same happened in the rather anti-christian 3. Reich. Highest birth rate in german history, no believe in god involved, just good old fashioned nationalism. So once again, my original point proven, you need A, ANY, belief system. The abrahamic, sociopathic sky fairy is not required.
>those poor Rhodesians*
*Rwandese, sorry. I was so upset thinking about people having to suffer not being Christian, like these poor Congo men having to dig holes into the mud because they don't even have tarps.
Reminder to sage and ignore all christkike shill threads. Sup Forums is a pagan (true western civilization) board.
Well done Sir.
Jesus was literally the first person to fight Jewry. You should really take the time to read The Holy Bible. The Old Testament is about the importance of race, and, the evils of the Jew. In The New Testament, Christ fights Jewry and gives them their earliest bloody nose.
If you feel that Christianity is not National Socialist, then you are gravely mistaken brother.
This isn't a laughing matter. He wants us to look at China with its high IQ population, the long and proud history and the profound non-jewish philosophy. Ew is all I can say! Gross!
Not even just the Amish. As a whole.
And actually, you're kinda proving my point: without a religion, people will have to have their own, in which case it would be a statist worship. The only reason the numbers bumped up for Nazis was because they were paying for many of them.
Religion is the most stable force for a society's future, too.
So, let's face it: you're just scared of being wrong.
>Jesus was literally the first person to fight Jewry.
>who is Manetho?
>who is Antiochus Epiphanes?
What is it that causes this disgusting dishonesty, is it the spiritual semitism?
>you're just scared of being wrong.
Very amusing. Im not talking about some futuristic utopia that has never been tried or proven bad systems like communism. Im talking about the longest period, roughly 97% in our european history were we didn´t have Christianity and were doing just fine. Actually, we were doing better. Rome and ancient Greece is still the basis of western society. So again, yes we do need a value system. An animistic, perhaps paganistic system that respects nature with an athenian touch of rationality and good old fashion militarism (not the same as constantly waging war) would do the trick in my opinion. The jew god is a mistake. We made it DESPITE him not because.
But that's a lie as well. The peasants are not intelligent. They torture animals to death and ignore their fellow man when he/she/child is injured. Chinks are fucking insects and not what anyone should be striving for.
Not all normies are atheists, faggot.
You need intelligence to be able to process and incorporate a good and decent doctrine.
How intelligent do you think the Christian peasants in Europe were, user?
>secular person propels literal shit and further strays from traditional values that made and united Europe
>Maybe Germany isnt lost after all
You deserve every refugee that came to your country.
>We are Rome, we are Vikings, we are Celts, We are ancient greece.
Who do you think killed Rome ? Why are you pretending you're part of Europe when your country only serves to destroy us all and even unite with Turks ?
Dark Ages were caused by mass migrations from central Asia and the mohammedan conquests of the now-Arab world, destroying the Roman cultural and economic foundation that was at first slowly spreading to Northern Europe, and throughout the middle east. However, nations around the Baltic and North sea thrived from the adoption of Roman culture and infrastructure, because the Mediterranean was pirate- and raider-infested, trade with Asia was non-existent. During the period 500-1400 European agriculture became increasingly effective, cultivating thousands of acres of previously barren land and wilderness.
Christianity is actually the perfect religion for the West. You get to do anything you want while you're alive.
And as long as you repent and accept Christ as your savior before you die, you can still be saved.
It's the perfect religion for barbarian, warrior, conquerors.
Nigger tier
Charles Martel is spinning in his grave
What are all these neckbeards doing on our board? This is and always was a Christian board. You narcissistic self adoring pagan faggots have no place here.
Christianity is a foreign religion. You can all fuck off to the middle east if you like it so much.
I don't disagree with that.
But still. Christianity is wildly popular in the West for a reason.
And its not the Jews doing it. We're doing it to ourselves.
So about 50 years ago the entirety of Europe should’ve mass migrated to ME because a couple of low IQ LARPers like you have some nigger tier ideas about God being foreign?
We, of all people, should have some standards.
You shouldn´t abuse your laughable historical "knowledge" to make political points, even in this cesspool of ignorance. Where I am from in southern Germany WAS Rome. Countless important political and militar figures in the Empire where of germanic origin. Rome was not an ethnicity. It was by definition multi ethnic, white, european.
Germans are literally on the same level as Jews. You have done nothing in your history that contributes to a greater Europe. Your people invented communism, protestantism and bankrupted Europe single handedly twice with your world wars and endless desire for expansion. I hope the Turkroaches will eat your country from the inside out and that you may never recover.
I have a personal rule about not engaging with anyone referencing IQ out of the blue in an online debate. Bye.
>Christianity is actually the perfect religion for the West. You get to do anything you want while you're alive.
You get punished for sinning while your alive.
>And as long as you repent and accept Christ as your savior before you die, you can still be saved.
Yes, that affects your afterlife.
You need to learn more about ancient religions.
It hits a little bit to close to home doesn’t it?
>Who are the ones who hate it the most?
Who nose?
Too*
Looks like Poland will have a lot of work to do, to convert european primitives back to the universal faith
You have no idea. Abandoning morals of Christianity only took one damned generation: the Boomers. Repairing the damage done will take generations if we started now.
If only Western Europe could be like Poland... And I say that as a Muslim
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