Can anyone fill me in on the blanks? This seems getting pretty fucking huge
I don't know all of it, I'm still reading into it, what I know so far:
>Brabant Killers were a gang who first robbed a supermarket and then proceeded to rob several other supermarkets during '82-'85 >they try to scare people as much as possible, leaving numerous bodies yet they didn't loot anything of worth, small amounts of money >Belgians decide that this wasn't just a random gang, most likely they got protection from higher-ups in the police force, as well as the government itself >one examining magistrate, Freddy Troch, and his team were on the case, apparently they got pretty close to the truth before the case was transferred to Charleroi
If I'm correct this all resulted into Belgium to give up some of their freedoms, like gun control, and hanging surveillance cams everywhere.
Now fast forward to present day:
>2015, one of the gang members nicknamed "The Giant" tells his brother the whole truth on his deathbed >brother is puzzled for a whole 2 years on what to do with this information he got >decides after 2 years to tell everything >he mentioned if the truth comes out, shit would hit the fan so horribly hard in Belgium >he already told his brother worked for the police elite called 'Diane' during the gang attacks and he mentioned some names, like Marc Van Damme and Paul Vanden Boeynants >one attorney, Jef Vermassen, he seems based as fuck, says he solved everything on the Brabant Killers and who ordered those attacks, and he DEMANDS to the truth to be known to all of Belgium
I can't wait desu, I hope it is related to Dossier X somehow but I'm not sure.
Jayden Jenkins
Yeah, I'm hype as fuck. I hope they don't find a fall guy this time.
Could this be the first step to draining the Belgian swamp?
Christopher Hernandez
Bump.
Daniel Gray
Operation Gladius
Lucas Johnson
dont know about that but i remember reading that the walloons in power used the dutroux affaire to completly wipe out the "rijkswacht" police force because they feared that the flemish part would be the ones stomping down the doors of those corupt PS politicians when shtf.
Also, its a wel know "secret" that the belgian secret service had been in walloon hands for decades and the PS used them to spy on flemish politicians. The intel they got from this is one of the reasons that the PS stayed in power for so long even when it was obvious that they where more like a criminal organization then a political party.
also watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=xaf7q9RKjgo never showed in belguim, the belguim goverment wants us to believe that mark dutroux was a lone wolf, but in reality he was part of a giant pedophile network with men who had massive political influence, who where powerfull to cover it all up and even give orders to kill police officers when needed.
Carter Baker
So who will end up being the ones who gave the orders? My guess is socialist politicians who wanted chaos and start a "communist revolution".
Hudson Jones
first time hearing about this, as an outsider, could you explain why the government would cover for mass murderers?
Alexander Morales
Yeah, I'm thinking most ppl of the 'Diane' group and probably all of the PSC party at the time and the CEPIC.
I keep seeing the name baron Benoit de Bonvoisin come back though, seems like he played a pretty huge part.
This was probably all a part of wiping out the rijkswacht too...
Nathan Edwards
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Carter Long
and why those murderers would target innocent lifes at that
Jaxon Thomas
Jeff Geraerts already wrote a book in the `1980's saying the Bende van Nijvel were all rijkswacht corps Diane members.
He speculated they were motivated by bringing forth a right wing coup détat
Jayden Scott
the team called "diana" was notorious for being right wing and the flemish part of the rijkswacht was loyal to flanders. i dont think that these guys would do these things for commie walloons, more likely they did it for large amounts of money.
Jaxson Jackson
I don't really see the connection here, are you talking about this?
Well, as I explained in the OP, after the attacks Belgians had to turn in some of their freedoms, e.g. surveillance cams everywhere and gun control. It still seems farfetched though, there must be more to it.
the gladio teams where well funded highly autonomous groups who where supposed to wipe out all kinds of communist growth in the west.
Some speculated that in belguim the brabant killers where actually a gladio unit trying to create fear in the public. But i dont really see how that would scare people away from communism so i dont see teh connection.
Samuel Clark
wasn't there some higher up or his family killed in a supermarket assault, and they just kept rampaging other supermarkets to look like it wasn't a direct attack against that guy?
Asher Clark
People who look like this should be exterminated for the sake of mankind.
David Hill
Is there a connection to the Haemers gang? Apparently they captured Paul Vanden Boeynants in '89, kept him in a villa for a month, demanded an 1.5m ransom for him, then he was dropped off in Tournai.
Do you think he falseflagged a kidnapping so they could split the ransom?
Nolan Rogers
>The killings escalated dramatically in 1985. Bystanders were shot dead in the parking lot before the gang entered the supermarkets; other victims, including children, were shot from as close as a foot away while cowering on floors
godamn
Jeremiah Walker
That's a solid 9.5/10 in Belgium.
Austin Collins
Nigga we all look like this
Owen Wood
Strong words coming from a Britbong
Easton Stewart
kek
We all know how 10/10s in britbongs look tho
Nathan Edwards
>this all resulted into Belgium to give up some of their freedoms, like gun control, and hanging surveillance cams everywhere
I genuinely wonder how dumb you have to be to believe this. Do you have trouble tying your shoe laces?
>hanging surveillance cams everywhere Following your rational, places that didn't experience brutal robberies with high death tolls don't have surveillance cameras? Don't you understand how pathetic this thinking is? Surveillance cameras are everywhere because they're convenient and relatively cheap, not because of some massive conspiracy.
>gun control You sound like a conspiracy theory believing Yank. Is there any proof for your claims?
Julian Wood
why try to start a fight when you know that we just have to post on british slag in this discussion would be over.
there are speculations that there where actually two gangs, the first gang was the real one, then the second gang where copy cats, the second gang was also more voilent and coordinated.
Jeremiah Adams
Which is why I thought it was so farfetched. These weren't some random robberies.
What is your opinion on why the attacks happened?
Kayden Wood
>However, barring an extension to the statute of limitations, the gang members cannot be punished for the crimes. The limit ran out November 10, 2015.
i never understood these expiration dates. you killed 20 people 20 years ago? no problem, you dont need to be jailed
Liam Martinez
Yeah I always thought that was fucking bullshit too... It happened too with Vangheluwe, a pedo priest who molested numerous children, including both his cousins. But it was "expired", so he didn't get sentenced. Yay Belgian justice system.
Lucas Turner
its not only there, here that happens too. who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
Levi Russell
the people who made up these laws are the ones who probably would benefit the most from these laws.
Or in other words corupt politicans cover their own ass by making up bullshit laws.
Charles Cook
Probably the same guys who voted to lock the Dutroux files for 30 years
Nolan Miller
Actually they extended it with 10 years, so they still have time untill 2025.
Colton King
I have no idea, I haven't read up on it enough to form an opinion.
But I don't believe it's some huge cover-up or intricate conspiracy by the Belgian police-forces or government. There would have been leaks by now.
However, it wouldn't surprise me if certain members of the gang were (ex-)policemen or at least connected to the police.
My guess would be they were a group of psychopaths who enjoyed senseless violence and the thrill of being maniacal bandits. They probably quit because they're leader was killed in the final robbery.
There seem to be some connections of Operation Gladio to the Bende van Nijvel. Look at the report above.
Robert Myers
>1h21 min vid Could you give me a quick rundown?
Sebastian Cooper
gladio
Noah Gray
There were leaks earlier, but they were always discarded because of not having enough proof.
But the speculation isn't that certain members were connected to the police in some way, it's that ALL of them were in the 'Diana' unit.
We can already say for certain De Reus was in the Diana unit during the time. Coincidentally, there were weapons stolen from the unit's depot...
Also the investigation went chaotical at the time, and Freddy Koch was apparently doing a good job investigating then suddenly the case got transferred to Charleroi which then went nowhere. Did he get too close to the truth?
Carson Myers
Who's to say there was only one "reus"?
Kevin Mitchell
you should really just watch the video when you have the time