>Belgium 1982-1985 >a group of bandits commits 18 violent robberies on supermarkets in Belgium >they're called the Brabant Killers (Bende van Nijvel in Dutch; Tueurs du Brabant in French) >they kill 28 people in 18 robberies yet hardly take anything of value when they rob the supermarkets >each time they outsmart the cops >conduct the robberies in a military fashion, leading the public opinion to believe that it's either the genderamerie or the army >the investigation is clearly sabotaged from higher up: destruction of evidence, cops that came too close were put off the case and replaced by others that worked extremely slow
>2017 >it finally comes out that one of the gang members called 'the Giant' was a cop. he died two years ago
So now people are asking themselves why? Why did those officers do that? Why were they protected by the Belgian government?
The general consensus is that there were only 3 of them: the 'giant', the 'killer' and the 'old one'. However, others refute this and say they swapped members and were with more in their most deadly raid on the Delhaize supermarket of Aalst in 1985, where 8 people (including little children) were brutally and deliberately shot
Lincoln Hughes
In early 1982 the barracks of the genderamerie's special unit, the Diane Brigade, in Etterbeek were broken into. Several automatic weapons were stolen that night. The Diane Brigade was Belgium's best trained police unit so their barracks and arms stocks were highly supervised, yet somehow people got in and stole some stuff
Oh yeah, another thing: the members of the gang of Nijvel wore Carnival clothing in Aalst
Juan Foster
>Belgium
Jack Martinez
Yeah well laugh all you want, a possible explanation is that the Nijvel Gang were a part of Operation Gladio
Joseph Ward
small, rainy muslims niggers only whites there hate each other pedophiles and now government murder gangs
Shat a shitty, shitty country, and this is coming from a canuck
Jason Morales
Add up the Flemish separatism and blatant government corruption and inefficiency. Yes Belgium is a really shitty country
The Gang of Nijvel were protected from higher up, just like Marc Dutroux and his gang most likely were
Jackson Baker
Between this and the Dutroux shit, wtf was going on with Belgian police in the 80s? THis is some South American tier corruption.
Cooper Barnes
Please explain
Jaxon Morris
I bet it was some french vs flamenco shits
Christian Fisher
Leaded gasoline and water lines, maybe.
Matthew Watson
As I said it is believed (and now confirmed) that the Bende van Nijvel came from the Gendarmerie. The question is why did they do this? There are three possible answers that are however connected to each other:
1/ Gendarmerie wanted more material and money from the government so they decided to create vicious crime themselves. After 1985 both the police and the gendarmerie were reinforced and recieved more means
2/ The Gendarmerie wanted to turn Belgium into a police state where they had the upperhand, so they created a strategy of tension and killed 28 people
3/ It's not a secret that our gendarmerie was a hot bed for right wingers. Members of Front de la Jeunesse and Westland New Post, two neofascist organisations linked to the right wing of the PSC (parti social chrétien, our christiandemocrat party) made the Bende van Nijvel and they recieved funds from Operation Gladio. They were the Belgian stay-behind network
french speaking politicians, communists and extremist right wingers...
Evan Campbell
that would make sense
Jaxon Watson
it was probably a group put together by (amongst others, de bonvoisin) consisting of the rijkswacht, WNP and a bunch of low life gangs like haemers his gang
Kevin Fisher
not just a cop, a rijkswachter... militarised police who wore UZIs for shits and giggles
Isaiah Scott
THis is some South American tier corruption.
It is. Belgium had two rival police forces that fought out a war: the militarized police (Gendarmerie/Rijkswacht) and the regular police. And then you also had the State Security. Those 3 policing organs did not cooperate at all and were in fact rivals. It was often that all three of them were on the same case
The police failed twice in the Dutroux-case: the first time when they did not notice the shaft in his house behind which two girls were locked up (those girls starved to death because of that), the second time when Dutroux escaped from prison. Rumour has it the gendarmerie was behind this
The police war wasn't/isn't the only thing though. The justice apparatus is rotten to the core as well. In Belgium they lead a police investigation and in the Nijvel case they have been on it for over 35 years yet never had any result while tips from the people flowed in
This country is really sick.
Adam Flores
Not exactly but the divide plays a role, like it does always in this country.
People believe the right wing of the Parti Social Chretien and former PM Paul Vanden Boeynants had something to do with it.
Also, the parquet of Dendermonde (Flanders) came really close to the culprits but then all of a sudden they were taken of the case and they case was given to a team in Charleroi (Wallonia), who went to work like amateurs
Hunter Lee
also, how many days do you give belgium now that wathelet is going to fall and the entire fucking CD&V, Open VLD and socialist parties are falling with them?
Adam Richardson
One of the victims still believes the giant was actually Patrick Haemers
Put it in translate if you want. In the late 1970s the Belgian elite had 'sex parties' where minors attended. The intention was to compromise each other so that everyone would remain loyal. This is quite a common practise in freemasonry
Brandon Anderson
something like that yeah, had to do with their servants that got here without the right documentations
Nathaniel Ward
Don't forget the UK, those people are also neck deep in this shit. Haven't heard anything about china and russia though.
Connor Russell
I really wonder if these Brabant Killings was a stay behind scheme gladio style, or if it was wild dogs trying to wreck havoc for fun/politics/whatever.
Christopher Carter
most likely a combination of the two... where there were gladio members but also coked up gangsters involved, used as a pool of mercs to destabilize our country
Adrian Miller
Gladio seems kinda weird. Okay, you had the CCC but then why would the Bende van Nijvel attack random supermarkets? Makes no sense if you compare it with the Italian stay behind network
What makes more sense however is the theory of the police state/coup d'etat
Caleb Cox
delhaize was at the time the largest belgian supermarket chain though...
Jaxson Diaz
Maybe. I also question the involvement of the gendarmerie/rijkswacht. As a copper myself, I know how nebulous the organisation can be, and how the hierarchy sometimes completly ignore what you're actually doing. I can only imagine how it was before there were cellphones, GPS trackers in our squad cars, etc.
Josiah Davis
Where does shooting civilians comes in in a plan to deploy a resistance network against a hypothetical Soviet invasion?
Gavin Johnson
>Belgium >relevant
Thomas Miller
sounds like it could've been related to Gladio, a decentralized NATO stay behind organization, which was used to terrorize the European population to act in a decisive way.
Josiah Sanders
we had the CCC bombing banks and shit at the same time and a true rise in soviet sponsored politicians and organisations
Connor Myers
So they killed them to prevent them from joining a working union or something?
Lucas Peterson
>country literally only known for sub-par coffee. >calling anyone else irrelevant.
Mason Gutierrez
nope, they killed them to get the people scared... you have to imagine, we had paratroopers and snipers guarding the delhaize stores... like we have guys patrolling some of our cities now but that was a completely different level of weirdness apparently
Tyler Howard
Remember to thank an old WW2 vet, this is what they fought for, corrupt jewified governments that run prostitution/slavery/murder rings
Gavin Moore
Like it's my fault Pirkka repackages Brazilian robusta and sticks a "Costa Rica" label on it.
Nathan Taylor
>Why does the EU have a hit squad operating out of Brussels in order to murder people apparently at random?
Caleb Wright
most people were murdered at random though...
Gavin King
A lot of innocent victims lost their lves by simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, sad for them BUT IN EACH INCIDENT ONE VICTIM HAD BEEN DELIBERATELY TARGETED FOR EXECUTION.
The same applies to most ISIS attacks, always at least one victim who was previously earmarked, but they just get lost in the statistics, it's genius tier state sponsored murder.
Alexander Parker
wtf is that true and how do you know Finnish coffees? If you can't trust the cheapest retailers goods authenticity then who can you trust?
This is like mcdonald's 100% beef not actually being 100% beef but beef made by a subcontractor named 100% beef.
Kayden Rogers
wtd is that true how do you know American burgers? if you cant trust the cheapest retailer goods authenticity then who can you trust?
Luke Long
this
Ian Russell
What the hell am I reading? Belgiums were fine with this shit. Third world shit as far back as the eighties
Adam Cox
yeah well, fucking walloons...
Nicholas Robinson
Thanks for this info Belgian anons
The Brabant killings are a really interesting case, because it’s clear now that the police were involved, but it’s not clear why: what was the motive? They weren’t trying to frame communists or anything. This leads me to believe it was something even worse. Either the government was so corrupt it legitimately could not prosecute psycho murderers who were in the police, or it was Gladio op to experiment with simply terrorizing the population.
Interesting aspect of the Dutroux case: one of Dutroux’s “clients” who bought children was a nobleman/state security official named Baron de Bonvoisin. He was also a member of a secret shadow government group called “Le Cercle”, that was composed of NATO officers including Americans, industrialists and media figures from multiple countries (US & Europe). I suspect this is how the Dutroux/Nihoul gang fed blackmail to the deep state and obtained protection
Nicholas Fisher
>local national brand >international mega corporation not the same thing mr 41% white.
Oliver Clark
is a list available of the supposed deliberate victims?
The last and most violent attack occured 666 days after the previous one. Seems like a sick joke and it wouldve been impossible to stage a hit to coincide with that kind of gap in time.
Luke Scott
Dutroux was also convicted of having killed a suspected former accomplice, Bernard Weinstein
(((Weinstein)))
Lucas Wright
that name does ring strangely nowadays doesn't it...
Ryan Foster
This shit is too weird for me.
Grayson Russell
worst of it is, it's not even /x/ tier... there was an american critic reviewing a flemish series that used this as an inspiration and she was all like "that shit only happens in bad novels, no way it's realistic"
Nicholas Wright
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
Modern cop shows like CSI and Law and Order tend to give the impression that the police are professional and have sophisticated, scientific methods. Even these days that's a rather rose-tinted way of looking at the police, but back in the 80s there were close to zero professional standards in policing. You got the job because your dad was a cop, or your friend or something, and you kept the job because of the police union.
Basically unless they actually turned up during the middle of a crime, all police 'detective' work amounted to was finding someone with a criminal record who might have been in vaguely the same area as the location where the crime took place, and beating him until he confessed. Since most crime is committed by career criminals, and most of them aren't that smart, this produced at least some genuine convictions. However, when it came to the less obvious sorts of crimes where actual detective work was needed, most cops couldn't find their own arse with two hands and a map.
I really don't understand why people are so quick to jump to conspiracy as an explanation for police failings.
Jeremiah Brown
because at one point the investigation was literally killed off by moving it to a DA who can't even open a letter...
Leo Perry
>a DA who can't even open a letter... again, sounds more like incompetence. Maybe the DA they moved it from didn't want to be stuck with a case he couldn't solve, and asked a friend higher up the chain of command to relieve him of it.
Levi Turner
It's the kind of thing I'd expect the CIA to do only it happened in Belgium. Sorta reminds me of Vegas only there are more people involved here, the police were always suspect, and the investigation was killed much more brazenly.
David Brooks
no, the DA they moved it from was the first one to lay the connection the media is now working out with the rijkswachter that confessed on his deathbed... he was sidetracked because that led to political implications... you also have to imagine, in the 80's flemish people were still looked at as second rate with our entire elite and politicians speaking french (even the flemish ones refused to speak it when talking to other politicians)... they moved it to the DA in wallonia to kill it off
Brayden Evans
I believe that this shit is somehow related to the Dutch aristocracy being thoroughly infiltrated by jews when they were a world power. They basically brought all kinds of degeneracy and devil worshipping to the elites in this region, probably even to Belgium and the monarchy there. And now you can't get rid of it anymore. Even worse, the EU picked it as their headquarter for some (((reason))). You can bet that they are all in on it.
