Why the hate?

Why the hate?

the manga and the anime are honestly not that bad

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Fuck off, Narutard.

Kill yourself.

This

WTF
I wanted arguments not fucking retardations

Babbys first anime
Evidence
>the amount of ghetto naruto twitter users rp as sasuke, itachi and naruto

sure,but that doesn't mean it's bad

Check em.

Part 2 was just plain bad.

fucking really?
tell me why

Popular = bad

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Part 1 was great

Part 2 was good until the Pain arc ended

Sup Forums hates everything mainstream especially Naruto, don't bother OP

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This.
You seem like a man of reason.

if you say so faggot

Tell that to my dubs OP

oh shit nigga

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Part 1 was a masterpiece. Chunin Exam and Rescuing Sasuke were GOAT arcs. Also Naruto has so many interesting supporting characters and all of them were given good amount of screentime and background stories.

Shippuden was too much about Sasuke, All the Konoha 11 other than Naruto and Sakura were shoved aside. Naruto and Sakura's constant dick sucking of Sasuke was the most annoying part.

>Sup Forums hates everything mainstream especially Naruto
I don't understand how this can be a reason for anyone outside of high school. I personally don't know anyone that talks about anime period, and Sup Forums and /m/ are my only interaction with with people who like anime as a whole. So as far as I'm concerned people who like naruto are a bunch of autistic shitposters instead of being part of a popular fanbase.

I liked it the up until first half of the war arc, when literally everything becomes about Sharingans and Uchihas, I couldn't take it anymore.

This is true of Part 2 in general. Whenever it focuses on Sasuke or Uchihas, the manga si shit. Unfortunately, Part 2 focuses a lot on those two things.

GATEWAY ANIME OF THE WORST KIND

you're a faggot

Those parts were awesome, seeing all these uchihas on their periods is entertaining as fuck, the story just wasnt as engaging after pain and itachis death. It felt like every was settled and we could end the series but kishi, or his editors who knows, kept it going. Last fight was dope tho so i am looking forward to it.

- sadness and sorrow arc
- the chunin exams
- sand vs leaf
- Itachi/Akatsuki introduction
- 3-way deadlock
- the Sound 4 arc
- Naruto vs Sasuke

Not sure how Sup Forums can despise Naruto so much when Part 1 exists

Part 1's OST was great too. Part 2 tried too hard to make it sound "epic"

Kishi's worst sin is making Anko fat

Also Part 1 was much better because Orochimaru was basically the main villain throughout

Part 2 switched from Orochimaru > Pain > Obito > Madara > Kaguya

the forbidden triple dub!

It was to fend off the gaias and other cancers graivtating to the likes of Nurutu and Elfen Lied., which stopped being relevant some eons ago but we continued the tradition anyway before that 2013 incident.
That being said, it's shit.

I loved it when it seemed like Gai+Kakashi+Naruto+Killerbee was going to be the group that takes down the final boss. Even though they didn't, it was still a really great fight and they played a big role. Still. who could have seen that coming, having those characters be relevant at the end? that was awesome.

You are a retard.
Manga should had endes 5 years
Prior because it was shit.
Narutofaggs that come herenare shipper faggs that seel validatipn. So fuck off with your hinaturds.

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>literally the first person in the thread to talk about shipping

So...why were we supposed to sympathize with the Uchihas again?

They're all chaotic evil

Obito did it because he was cuck of the century.

fuck off retard

manga? mediocre/above average at best, blatant copy of shit like hxh. pacing and the general story gets completely fucking retarded, power level bullshit starts to step in as the author is so retarded that he doesn't realize that power level douchebaggery isn't the only way to make the plot and character progress seem interesting. huge amounts of plotholes that never get retconned. fucked up character motivations, the biggest turn off being orochimaru in this regard, nigga what the fuck. manga has nothing to offer that hasn't been seen before and it's just a feel good hugbox where everybody can come back to life and there's always a happy ending because friendship. fuck it.

anime? all the shit i mentioned above except multiply that by ten times thanks to the fucking retarded fillers with convoluted plot lines and forgettable characters. the pacing is probably the shittiest i've seen in any show/comic/whatever in any form of media on the entire planet, i have no idea what the fuck they've been thinking these past few years. couple that with some really shitty animation quality and inconsistency because they keep renting out shit/good studios to do their work for them.

it's just an all around bad show and all the stuff i was looking for from naruto i already got in shows/manga like hxh and it's done much better. if you like naruto then your taste is so bad that you should probably neck yourself.

wrong, part 1 was above average, not great, and part 2 was even better than 1 in many ways up until the end of the gaara rescue arc. it went up in quality during pain arc but the height was already achieved in the first 32 eps. then it shat itself and continues to do so until today.

So basically everything after pain was shit.

Because it's popular, SAO novel and anime is also not that bad but Sup Forums hates it like it's the worst thing to ever existed.

both took a pretty heavy dip in quality and I'll be honest I really wanted Sasuke to die, and was surprised when he didn't. Also all this bullshit to put the Uchihas in a good light annoyed the shit out of me.

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>Sup Forums hate it cause Sup Forums hate everything popular meme!

How to spot outsiders normalfags from reddit and MAL.

Fuck off derp_commander

Why do tripfags always have the worst taste in anime

You need to be 18+ to post here.

The new Boruto anime adaption looks pretty promising.

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why do you think they're tripfags? they're emotionally distraught individuals (some could even call them autists) that need to be validated, and they're not getting that from Sup Forums because nobody shares their disgusting taste. so at the very least they get recognition from using a trip.

Only fight I liked in Part 2 was Sausage vs Killer Bee.

Itachi's best friend that died was a cool Uchiha.

What other anime has a rap album huh?

I almost forgave Kishi for having me put up with so much of Sasuke's stupid fucking quest for party members and angsting for how cathartic it was.

there were several good fights in term of animation and general plot quality but that means dick since it's a couple of fights in a several hundred episodes long series

If you just started watching/reading better know that the plot becomes unbelievable shitty and the ninja theme nonexistent.

Also part 2 somehow manages to be animated even worse

Have you read the sao novels? Theyre pretty poorly written (japanese versions). Most ln of that caliber are the same though

Are you saying the rock lee fight was not animated good?

Not sure about the manga...but in terms of anime, Naruto was probably the best out of the "Big 3"

OP
> moves at a sluggish pace
> Toei curse

Bleach
> Went downhill pretty early
> Honestly not sure why it's considered part of the Big 3

Part 2 started of rough due to scheduling issues, but the show got better when it the production stabilized and got good in-house talent.

Obito shouldn't have had a happy ending with Rin in heaven. The fucker was responsible for lot of the bad things happened in the Series.

Which rock lee fight? Chunin vs gaara? That was alright. Naruto really skimps the animation most of the time though

I used to think the "Big 3" was DB, OP, and Naruto. No Bleach

I thought the opening to part 2 was alright, i skipped most of the filler but later on it gets to like 10 frames per episode even when during fighrs. Vs obito and madara was shit animation.

Of course its not just about animation, but part 2 rushes so much stuff instead of building up to it

Part 2 has a decent amount of well-animated episodes. Part 1 had to rely on freelancers for great animation, but since Hiroyuki Yamashita joining the team they no longer needed to rely on outside help. The period when Yamashita and Masayuki Kouda were animation directors on the staff rotation was great for the show. Part 1 never reached that level of frequency.

Yeah the shifting style of part 1 was interesting, the straight up gainax animation in some episodes was cool. Cant remember if that was part one or two though (nine tails cloak with yamato vs orochimaru)

Honestly, now that Bleach is over Naruto actually looks a lot better. I mean it's still shit like most shonen but yeah.

There isn't really any "Gainax-style" animation in Naruto. The good animators who worked on the show follow different styles.

>nine tails cloak with yamato vs orochimaru
Sounds like early part 2 to me.

When did this happen? It always struck me that around episode 300 or so, Naruto suddenly didn't have incredibly amateurish directing/storyboarding and it started actually having a style.

Then yeah that episode. It was animated by gainax though so idk what you mean that their's no gainax style.

Anko was easily one of the hottest pieces of ass to come out of Naruto and I don't get why Kishi wanted to shit all over her. She wasn't even a secondary character really.

Also while Kaguya was technically the final villain, I'd say Zetsu was just as much so.

Shounenfags please leave and kys.

Nice.

Really bad writing & a horrible power creep. It essentially got worse and worse as it went on. At least the fights were well animated.

Has Shippuden ended yet?

The art style is retarded

There's been all sort of styles throughout the show always, ranging from bad to good. HIroyuki Yamashita got promoted to episode director on episode 322 so maybe you noticed his work. There have been various other well-made episodes before his though. Masaharu Watanabe, who is directing Re:Zero now, used to be a really good in-house episode director on Naruto. He tended to work on filler episodes though.

Honestly the first arc with Gaara was still pretty good overall. Don't really remember too much after that since that was about the time I started to stop giving a shit.

Yes, they are. That it had potential to be great just makes it worse

i was forgiving of it until it started unleashing hundreds of filler that weren't even called for because the manga already finished.

As far as I'm aware, Gainax never did a whole episode of Naruto. Hell, there weren't even any top Gainax animators who ever worked on the show. If anything, it would be Production I.G.-associated animators who would show up on occasion due to Tetsuya Nishio being the show's character designer.

>They're all chaotic evil
Tobirama please, you instigated all that trouble by treating them like shit.

It's like that video where this girl keeps hitting a cat, and then finally the cat scratches her arm and shes all like "look how bad this cat is!"

The anime is still in filler hell

pretty solid till pain arc. after that you just want to see how story ends and who impregnates whom?

I'll take Shounenfags over autistic kids who say ''kys''

It's been back to canon for several episodes already.

Because it's popular.
I'm not saying it's exempt from criticism, but all the hate it gets is just ridiculous. One Piece and Bleach are not that different in terms of quality, yet they don't get half the hate Naruto does. If either of the former had been as popular as the latter, the roles would be reversed.

Same goes for SAO, SnK, Tokyo Ghoul etc. None of them is perfect or even necessarily good, but they're popular among "le ebul nurmalfags" so Sup Forums must hate them regardless.

No it's not, they just landed the final blow against Kaguya

Because it used to be a gateway anime for kids. Now anyone who still cares about naruto is out of college and working.

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Afro Samurai
Plenty of rapper namedrop DBZ, HxH, Pokemon, Cowboy Bebop, Lupin etc

FULL album
Naruto 2009 is possibly the best rap album imo

>They just landed the final blow against Kaguya
>just landed
Jesus Christ!! The Naruto/Sasuke fight is gonna drag on for months. Studio Pierrot is gonna milk this cow to the bone.

>Gave them a position of power
>Treated them like shit.
Typical Uchiha apoligizer.

They weren't fighting Kaguya for that long user...

Longer than the manga, but still that isn't saying much.

Dragon Ball is the grandaddy most shonens, it exceeds the concep of a "big 3"

Because Naruto lost its tone and tried to be something it wasn't.
Throughout the series it always praised the concept of being secretive, using weapons, and using strategy. But as it went on and especially post timeskip it became clear that it started wanting to use really flashy, loud, attacks to fit in with the rest of the shounen.

That and the fact that everything revolves around Sasuke, Minor characters aren't allowed to improve in any significant way, the fact that he over explained and straight up ruins the nuance about many of the things that made Naruto cool, including how jutsu work, Where Kekkei Genkai come from and even the overall history of the Naruto world. Everything goes from interesting and unique to the same cookie cutter shit we've seen 1,000 times. But what makes it worse is how insincere it feels.When I read it I can't help but think "This is probably the editor's idea" or "Kishimoto is just trying to pander to fans". I just don't feel like he really put much thought into it after the timeskip. He just strung together stuff people would think are cool.

Naruto: Always hated Sasuke and never gave a fuck about the guy, wanted him gone. Then Sasuke leaves and suddenly he was retroactively Naruto's best friend ever and Naruto misses him so much you'd think they're in love. Speaking of love, he never even acknowledged Hinata existed but suddenly after discovering she loves him, he starts loving her for no reason. His whole childhood is weird as fuck too but I will not get into that as I don't remember much of it. Plus there is the whole retardation about him being the son of the 4th, reincarnation of the son of the first ninja, has the 9 tailed fox...

Sakura: Would anything of value have been lost by removing this character? Would need only minor rewrites.

Sasuke: To this day I don't understand his motivation after the whole Itachi thing was dealt with. He wants to destroy the village, except he doesn't, but then he does again...

And those are only minor complaints about the main 3 characters off the top of my head, things get worse when you start to think about people like the nicest guy and the alien woman who appeared at the last second to be the final boss. And there is also the fact that all the secondary characters get neglected.
I enjoyed reading Naruto for the fights and the train wreck of a plot but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Man, I wish someone better picked up OP. I'd honestly prefer they take a bi annual break and have it move at a decent pace than Move at a snails pace year round. Shit man, unlike Bleach and Naurto, One Piece has way more potential for needless filler. Litterally every splash page is a tertiary adventure the strawhats go on. Not to mention all of the chapter stories that are truly canon. With all that potential it boggles my mind that toei still thinks it's better to make episodes drag on like they do.

You mean coolest guy, right?

In the case of Bleach it's simply because the source material just got that bad(to the point where filler arcs were literally better than canon).

But I would argue it had by far the best adaption. Bleach was stylish as fuck and well-paced. When it ended and the BBleach staff was moved onto the Naruto production, you could see the improvement there immediately.

>9 tales Jinchuuriki
>reincarnation of the sage's Son
>son of the fourth Hokage
>destined the change the ninja world as prophesied by the Toads

which ones was were too much?