Why was northern europe so barbaric for so long?

why was northern europe so barbaric for so long?

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Harsher conditions meant lower populations meant no cities and civilization until better agricultural methods were discovered southwards.

>Lack of population and population density
>Lack of good agricultural soil (before the heavy plough)
>Harsh winters
It's hard to compete with a population of 50 000 living in a harsh and cold Northern nation with so little arable soil your people have to go out on viking to survive, against a millions large population of mediterranean wankers with lives so easy they degenerate and destroy their societies a dozen times over.

Africa is just getting out of mud hut stage. Do you think they will rule the 50s? (2050s)

IDK. But i know they rekt Romans hard

Romans were to scared of the forests and pee their diapers. So they were just like

Teutborg never forget

If africans ever rule, then its like cockroacher rule over fallout.

>implying cities are good
Didn't you read the story of Cain and Abel?
Pastoral living is good. Agriculture and civilization is bad. We're supposed to be chilling out in the middle of nowhere with our cattle, wives, children, and other property. Not living in crowded shitholes eating corn and wheat.

China will rule the 50's. Africa is rising and will definitely be notable in the future, but whether or not they manage to fix their problems remains to be seen.
Personally I'm expecting massive wars in Africa.

>Africa
>not dying of Starvation and AIDS

cus the north has it roots in the east.. central asia/north of india/pakistan area

>Literaly nigger argument of why africa is shit

Compared to historic mediterrans and middle-easterners, we basically were niggers. Only difference was that our conditions were imposed by weather, africans conditions are imposed by other africans.

Its easier to defeat nature than nigerdry, it seems.

Africa will never rule shit. Governments are way too corrupt and way too many tribal/ethnic differences to ever get anything done with outside help...

China has a good shot of crumbling itself thanks to social instability. If the CCP loses power, then expect China to become a warzone with lots of death as the commies try to hold onto power. Unless we rebuild the west, it might very well be India that shits itself into world superpowerdom

just like africans are reking new rome (europe)

No, if they get their shit together and kick out foreign companies abusing the local economies they will almost certainly manage to rise.
The continent still has so many issues though that I'd expect war.

>Africa
>harsher conditions
It's the exact opposite. Africa has such easy conditions a lot of the people never bothered to develop further, because no need. Some tribes still only work like two hours a day to sustain themselves.

>China has a good shot of crumbling itself thanks to social instability. If the CCP loses power, then expect China to become a warzone with lots of death as the commies try to hold onto power.
China has been said to crumble for decades now, yet it never bloody happens. The same is said about the world economy and we're still waiting.
>then expect China to become a warzone with lots of death as the commies try to hold onto power
Well that's not a problem. The post-conflict rebuilding and automatization will do China good, especially if they've managed to cut their population into half.
>Unless we rebuild the west, it might very well be India that shits itself into world superpowerdom
Does India even have any real foreign influence? China has finally stopped with it's semi-isolationist (not including SEA) policies and has started expanding.

Hard to get by in a cold climate unless you have divine favour. At least they weren't as lecherous as the Greeks...

winter

but they had good civilization

VARUS GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!

african environment is horrible though

Germany
>No native cereal grains, the most important type of crop for developing agriculture and civilization.
>Imported cereal grains come from a much warmer environment with a longer growing season requiring extensive re-cultivation to adapt them to northern environments.
>Freezing cold winters effectively reducing your yearly productivity by 25% if you're lucky.

Africa
>Multiple native cereals, such as fiono, teff, pearl millet, and African rice.
>No need to import cereals and the ones you have are perfectly adapted to your evironment.
>No winters, year round growing season.

>warm all year round
>shitloads of animals everywhere
>plenty of plantlife
>arable soil
Nigger what?

africa is a paradise compared to the north

They call ‘em snowniggers for a reason OP.

Africans have much lower IQs than Northern Europeans

Because genuine niggers got butthurt and due to a serious lack of creativity just added "snow" to the front of "nigger"?

>if they get their shit together and kick out foreign companies abusing the local economies they will almost certainly manage to rise.
Lol, that will not happen. Trust me. We're dealing with niggers here - stability is not their thing.

>China has been said to crumble for decades now, yet it never bloody happens.
It'll happen eventually. There is a point where westernization and communism will meet and clash. Even the muslim Uyghurs and Tibet will have a part in it. So much volatility that it wont be able to be controlled eventually

>The post-conflict rebuilding and automatization will do China good, especially if they've managed to cut their population into half.
Following the destruction of a world power in a bloody civil war, it will take decades for reconstruction.

>Does India even have any real foreign influence?
India's SOI collides directly with China. Even if the PRC remains, then one of the two nations will collapse.

The only way Africa will do well is if the millions of surplus Chinese men go there and breed with African women since African men are flooding to Europe or killing each other. Then a Chegro class can rule as a cognitive elite, even if they would be vicious psychopaths

Africa is fertile and abundant. The only problem is the jungle diseases, white men don't do as well in those conditions

Chiggers send shivers down my spine.

>Lol, that will not happen. Trust me. We're dealing with niggers here - stability is not their thing.
Stability is nobody's thing. Chaos is omnipresent and no society on Earth has managed to fend it off for long.
>It'll happen eventually. There is a point where westernization and communism will meet and clash
China isn't even communistic.
>Even the muslim Uyghurs and Tibet will have a part in it. So much volatility that it wont be able to be controlled eventually
Then there will be war, but war is not the end of things.
>Following the destruction of a world power in a bloody civil war, it will take decades for reconstruction.
And if done right, the nation will prosper greatly afterwards. Post-war Germany is an amazing example of this.
>India's SOI collides directly with China.
Yeah, but do they actually have any influence? What does India actually do abroad? Code and harrass white women?

That's already happening and I do believe the locals will manage to rule themselves over time, so long as corruptive foreign influence is stopped. It's not like they're all retarded or anything and we'll never know for sure their general IQ level because political correctness in academia stops it from being studied seriously.

Notice how they said agricultural methods?

You need to be able to support your own population, not survive of the pittances of others.

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they will simply breed you out of existence. how's your negative birthrate doing?

It'll probably be similar to Christian missions in colonial Africa. Locals will be nice to the Chinese because it brings in money, just like African tribes letting in Christian missions because white traders would trust the tribe
youtube.com/watch?v=o_UhlZgBo8E

>just like African tribes letting in Christian missions because white traders would trust the tribe
Also because white people brought guns and anyone on the side of the traders and missionaries could just go around conquering the surrounding tribes, selling them as slaves.

You do know all that birth-rate is literally sustained by western aid that buys asian rice for nogs?

Moment the money dries up and tecnological innovation and increase in productivity cant sustain the worthless freeloaders anymore, there will be a total population collapse in africa.

Funniest thing, they dont even have agricultural technology there locally anymore, since western aid means food is practically free and falls from heaven.

scarce population size

>You do know all that birth-rate is literally sustained by western aid
prove it

The first one was war and raids. This today is traitorous politicans letting in africans on purpose

>No, if they get their shit together and kick out foreign companies abusing the local economies they will almost certainly manage to rise.
>niggers
>kicking anybody out, especially the Chinks
>not getting their nigger shit pushed in
Delusional thinking. Also, they're retarded niggers that have proven throughout history, including recent and current history that they're incapable of doing anything more complex as a group than rapping.
>The continent still has so many issues though that I'd expect war.
I expect a genocide, coming either from the Chinks (most likely) or future reformed Europeans.

>undp.org/content/dam/rba/docs/Working Papers/Food Production and Consumption.pdf
>>[...]While on average agriculture employs 65 percent of Africa’s labor force it accounts for about 32 percent of gross domestic product, reflecting the relatively low productivity in the sector. [...]

>Delusional thinking. Also, they're retarded niggers that have proven throughout history, including recent and current history that they're incapable of doing anything more complex as a group than rapping.
>African American slave descendants kept as niggers by politicians are representative of Africans
Mate.

Look at any parliament in any African country, it's a fucking shitshow. American niggers are literally leagues above African niggers. I've never heard a single good rap coming from Africa.

Nature worship. The trees was their high buildings

> it's a fucking shitshow.
Yes and? The current state of Africa is not an absolute indicator of the people's raw human potential. Much like Nordics in the past were far beyond Mediterraneans in culture, once time passed and they were able to unfuck themselves, the countries became some of the best places in the world to live in - for a while.

>der ewige nordic argument
The Nords developed their military strategies by plagiarising the Romans. They sought to improve themselves, and let's not forget that they scored many victories with the Romans. They always had that drive. No, they didn't build great civilizations like the Roman, Greek and Achaemenid Empires, but that doesn't make them not intelligent.

Niggers don't have that. If they did, they would have achieved wonders by now. You know very well how wealthy the continent of Africa is, you know how much resources these no good niggers get piped in every year. They don't have a reason to develop, nor do they have the capacity to develop. They have very different societal and familial structures than Europeans. They have different concepts of private property, wealth distribution, and many other things. Not to mention IQ.

This was actually a shitty snap of a line. While first reading it, i thought it meant internal production ammounts to 32% of gross domestic consumption, but it means GDP instead.

I have to find some better info.

completly psychopatic, having fast reflexes, resistant to tropical diseases and possessing enough smarts to use weapons effectively
has science gone too far

>nor do they have the capacity to develop.
They do. They are still human.
>Niggers don't have that. If they did, they would have achieved wonders by now. You know very well how wealthy the continent of Africa is, you know how much resources these no good niggers get piped in every year. They don't have a reason to develop, nor do they have the capacity to develop. They have very different societal and familial structures than Europeans. They have different concepts of private property, wealth distribution, and many other things. Not to mention IQ.
And none of that denies the raw human potential. Their current culture is cancer, but that can be fixed. Is it likely to be? Who knows. It would take a lot of work, but it's still doable.

>They are still human.
Debatable.
>And none of that denies the raw human potential.
This means nothing. Countless peoples have died off throughout history, all of them had "raw human potential" but didn't live up to it.
>that can be fixed
Yeah if you replace all niggers with whites you'll fix it.
>Is it likely to be?
No, it's impossible.
>it would take a lot of work
Why does anyone have to work towards helping niggers? Here's a simple solution to the African problem: kill all niggers, replace with Europeans, East Asians. Chance of success: 99%.

Culture can be fixed, genetics takes much much longer. Many aspects of a personality and the culture it creates is genetic.

Well, they do have potential to, but the evolutionary pressures that have existed, and still exist today on african populations means they will not make any significant social or technological breakthroughs, without westerners radically changing their approach.

Biggest problem to africa is western mollifying prevents any positive selection to take place, where their most productive and smartest were to be rewarded and most lazy and stupid punished. This means that the traits most selected for in the next generation are not on who is the smartest and most creative, but on who can breed the fastest to claim most welfare, gibs, or biggest tribe to kick other tribes out.

If west truly wanted to do good, it would start applying these pressures directly on african societies. But a good enough thing to do is to withraw all western influence, and let them sot themselves out.

there was this cool story posted on /pol that I'm still looking a copy for.
It was a parable so to speak about some less niggly dude in some African shithole who decides to farm some jams or something and improve his lot in life. It depicted many hardships and sacrifices he goes through to develop his farm and get enough production going - at the moment he has gathered his crop and rides into the market he is sidelined from the dirt road by 30 UN trucks carrying free rice for everyone.
It's basically hardcore dysgenetics.

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Because VALHALLA AWAITS

because nimrod fucked everything up and mixed all the races and pushed us out