Why doesn't California break away from the US, ala Kosovo/Macedonia/Catalonia...

Why doesn't California break away from the US, ala Kosovo/Macedonia/Catalonia? They can show the impressive power they wield over the US economy and turn the US into their little bitch, forcing the rest of the states to follow their every little demand.
California could perfectly be a standalone country.
#calexit when?

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>calexit
>massive GDP of Republic of California
>spent on buying drinking water from the US

The Americans would take it back the second they left. Don't you know what they did when the U.S. was short on oil?

>implying calexit wouldn't give USA the excuse to nuke it.

Because californian people don't exist so there is no shared identity to unite everyone for a common cause.

California secession will be a glorious thing to witness.

Google "history of the American Civil War"

>Cali leaves
>America prevents them from accessing the Colorado river
>Cali literally dies
please leave

California leaves
>dems don't win an election for 25 years
do it faggots

Settle down Vladimir. No one is buying your shit nor fooled by your proxy

They are the most flammable state in the Union

That was over 100 years ago. Poltics have changed much since then.

We should just let them go. We don't fucking want them.
Also, the Democrats wouldn't ever be able to win another election without those 55 electoral votes. The great blue wall of the west coast would be dismantled.

Because California will collapse quickly.


Only people with too much entitlement would think that California will do well on its own since they can still go shop at Giorgio Armani around the block of San Francisco while sipping their cafe latte from Starbucks.

Ruling a country is a huge fucking nightmare already, the government can’t cater to each and every one’s needs at the same time like these privileged ones wanted.

>waves at obvious putin troll

>california is 50% federal land

Yeah they don't get to have that

You can keep your pozzed blood transfusions too.

Their “great economy” is from the rest of the US. if you’re going to use GDP it just shows how little you know. The military bases and civilian contracts account for a large percentage of that mostly meaningless number. The largest shipping dock in the US also factors in.

California can’t survive without federal gibbs. The agriculture survives off of out of state water. They get the most federal money for farming, they are 3rd in welfare, and they test 45th in schooling. The state itself is 6 billion in debt, and they add another billion every year in pension debt.
If you make a quick study of it, California is an unsustainable economy according to professionals. Short version IT AINT EVER GONNA HAPPEN.

Have fun rebuilding NorCal without Uncle Sam. Especially after we turn off the water and the military locks your cities down.

How long would they last when not protected by US laws? lets say for instance the US government decides none of their content deserves copyright protection.

They're our slave. They exist to pay us federal taxes.

>dems don't win an election for 25 years
Already happening, democratic party is finished. We have to keep our hands around its neck though

When they figure out how they will get water in a drought without begging the US for water.

>none of their content deserves copyright protection.
Beautiful.

Are you fucking stupid? Do you know where all the water that California uses comes from?

California's economy is only impressive because the rest of the country pursue resources into, it's like an iron forge thinking it would be fine without people dumping fuel into it. Once that "fuel" stops comiming all they will have to sustain themselves with are some avocados and chants of "diversity is our strength".
California relies on American
>oil
>water
>electricity
>food imports
>industrial and commercial goods

That said I would love to see them try and slowly starve to death on the nightly news.

They'd be Ass-raped within months by their own policies

Wish they would, the sooner the better.

Excellent idea.

you have no idea how much I want to see commiefornia break off from the US
nothing would be more glorious than watching them try to eat their feelings and starve like good commies do

When they collapse, when does the military move in and hang their politicians for treason?

The 55 electors don’t disappear. They are reapportioned based on population.

>tfw conservative spic in California

Not a day goes by that I don't wish for California to seceed. Just so I can join up with some American patriots and fight from the inside. What are commies going to do against the full might of America and actual guns?
Maybe a good old fashion civil war will calm these liberal cucks.

Haha California would be fucked. The water, the military, all their business would pick up and move. It would purge our nation of literally our worst populations.

Like cutting out the cancer. It's the best thing that could happen. We need to meme those cocksuckers into leaving. We'd have a stock crash etc to a degree it would suck just because of the initial market effects, but once the market accounted for it, long term cutting that dead weighg might be the difference between being drug under into the icy depths of pinko degeneracy, and surving.

We could let them leave, take their voting rights away, attract all their businesses, and then let them spend all their money they have left on our military and water which they need.

>thinking there's gonna be any politicians left alive after they start eating each other 12 days in
kek

If Cali seceeds, it's only a matter of time before it's considered part of Latin America. People here are already so in favor of open borders. You think immigration on Germany is out of hand? At least they don't border Africa or the middle east.

No, it'd be the realization of Polk's vision for America when we rereconquista California, push south to Mexico City and east to Cuba.

It sounds like Catalonia alright.

This, NorCal would take the opportunity to finally free itself, CenCal will probably follow shortly since they're still conservative (barely), the High Deserts would probably join Arizona, Nevada or create their own state and you can bet Mexico would take advantage of the Chaos.

Its all talk, CaliNigger politicians know they'll lose more than they'll gain if they secede

The exodus of California’s remaining industry would destroy California.

SoCal is already have illegal immigrants it's probably be completely taken over by cartels within a year or two

if we seceded we would either be btfo'd immediately by the US military and we'd immediately turn into complete niggerville when the US forces every other country to not trade with us.

I could see a neo confederacy since the south is looking increasingly conservative and traditional outside the cities. I might buy a farm in TN or something and take my mixed race family with me.

Don’t fool yourself into thinking the cartels don’t operate all over California.

Cstalonians are much more united amongst themselves. Cali is all about multiculturalism and lack of persinal identity.


This. It won't be annexed by Mexico, but it would be like most central American countries.

Yes, federal lands would revert to the federal government, not Cali. This includes national parks, military bases, railroad and utility rights of way, harbors and facilities, the offshore coastline, river basins and anything else I can't think of right now. Also, Cali gets +10% of the national debt, payable today. Not to mention, when the Somali pirates open up a franchise in Mexico and start plundering Cali coast, no US Navy to fend them off.

And then there's the water situation...

Nope, Cali ain't goin' anywhere. They're dumb, but not that dumb.

Could Cali just buy up all the federal land? Assuming the feds are okay with them voting to leave.
Also, Somalis would just start in Cali, not Mexico. Cali would likely ship them in directly from "Syria" like Germany does.

>California
>liberal hell hole
>wouldn't become a communist hell hole with 100 million people starving to death within 10 years
0/10 you got me to reply

>Cstalonians are much more united amongst themselves.
Not really, that's the imagen the seccesionist want to give. Catalonia is divided in two.

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>and you can bet Mexico would take advantage of the Chaos.

If they want to be completely annihilated.
People tend to forget that America has the most powerful army in the world and Mexico's economy depends %80 on trade with US.

>Can leave at any time without repercussion.
What is the UK?

>Southern American state leaves so they can continue to use slave labor
Where have I of heard this before?

>California secession will be a glorious thing to whiteness.
Fixed that for ya.

>californians think they can just take that prime land with them when the leave
if californians secede the army will enter immediately and all the liberal filth will be removed from that premium land. it would be a huge win for america for california to secede.

Are you retarded

Don't forget that Silicon Valley by it's nature, can and would just pack up and move. Think they'd keep up the moral shtick when faced with tariffs?

>cannot leave at the penalty of civil law
Setting aside the syntactical mess of that sentence, it has nothing to do with civil law, which concerns itself with things like libel and divorce and has nothing whatsoever to do with sovereignty issues. There is no Constitutional mechanism for secession, so it is consequently regarded as sedition. Moreover, your fagimage is comparing apples to oranges; a supranational institution to a sovereign state. Let's compare sovereign states to each other. Does Bavaria have a secession mechanism under the Grundgesetz? No. Does Catalonia under Spanish law? No. Does Flanders under Belgian law? No. Does the Basque Country under French or Spanish law. No.

Now that you have been completely blown the fuck out, you fucking child faggot, you should consider suicide.

>the U.S. was short on oil
We're a net oil exporter, so no.

Is the rest of EU countries gonna kill brits or burn their cities like Atlanta. Georgia during American Civil War?

Have a (you). Would quit my job and enlist and bring them into compliance with purifying fire.

So Cal here. We rely on other states (who dislike us I should add) for water.

Calexit will never happen because we will literally wither away without the aid other states.

Also, there’s plenty of people in California who don’t support this liberal madness, and are more than willing to fight. Plenty of Californians are well armed.

Fucking this.

American pigs are near collapse and even their petrodollar printing presses can't clog the holes for too long.

This is the Eurasian century and the Russo-Chinese alliance will dominate it completely in all fields as is already perfectly clear when looking at simple gdp numbers and geopolitical influence.

Dissolution of the USA is not only inevitable, it will happen and sooner than anyone expects.

You can run a meme country on propaganda only for a little while - reality inevitably hits you with a hammer.

Bulgaria superpower by 2045

california is still a good place. just need to wipe out the leftist cancer so we can turn it red again.

Slavic Union.

This. There’s still plenty of real Americans here in Cali. Although we are outnumbered, the BS liberal facade can only go on for so long.

>California leaves
>Tech giants leave California and move to bases Texas
>California just becomes Mexico 2: Decapitated Boogaloo
>Democrats in America never win the White House again
I fully support this

Had USA a secession mechanism under British rule?

Real reason? California is shit broke, massively in debt, and about to endure a pension bubble explosion that will make Illinois look like Idaho. California's economy is big, but its economy is not healthy. Not at all.

If California seceded it would look like four or five Greeces bolted together within a decade. The ability to print their own money would actually exacerbate the problem since California wouldn't hold the world's reserve currency. Without the petrodollar the problem would double overnight.

Basically CA doesn't have this option and the politicians in charge know it, which is why nobody even entertains the idea of CalExit, not even the most virtue-signalling libshit rep, not even a mayor. If it were to actually happen it would be disastrous for California and wildly positive for the rest of the USA, as the Republicans would have a permanent 3/4ths majority.

kek

What are you taking about? NorCal provides its own water, it’s SoCal that is mostly arid, and we support the USA. If CA did somehow break away, we would split and become the new California (state of Jefferson).

Live in the high desert, can confirm that from Tahoe all the way to Independence we would just join Nevada. Prostitution, Gambling and Guns what else is there?

>cannot leave at the penalty of civil law
The image says Civil War with "W".

>Implying might doesn't make right and we couldn't just invade California and make it part of the US again

Californians really don't have much in common at all. We aren't as united as Catalonians that's for sure.

California is half Hispanic at this point. Many Californians don't even speak English. The Hispanics don't give a damn about national sovereignty, they just want their gimmies. I don't think there will be some grand leader to save California- it will just become browner and browner and more closely resemble Mexico.

Too important to the usa to be allowed to leave.

Why can't people who aren't from California shut the fuck up about it?

No, of course not, and it's beside the point, you fucking imbecile. You:

>made false equivalencies between supranational institutions and sovereign states
>got absolutely BTFO

And yet your persist in acting like a fag.

Better question, why don't Mexicans genocide the gays and jews?

Mexicans are rather more conservative than brainwashed white liberals and they can play the race card.

I was astonished that the guys I knew to be Mexican suddenly started to call out the jews out of the blue. I avoided to discuss politics before, obviously. I was expecting them to jump on the gibsmedat / liberal / weed identity politics bandwagon. Nope, they might be tan, they might have a mostache, but when it comes to jews and gays they make Hitler look pedestrian.

I know there is the inherent enmity between whites and hispanics in the USA, but as far as personal relations go, we're on pretty good terms to this day.

All states should secede and have a treaty for mutual defense. Leave everything else up to the states to work out on their own.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_referendum#Past_independence_referendums
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014
>Does Scotland have a secession mechanism under the UK? Yes

Russia is irrelevant.

>Commiefornia secedes
>Welfare state runs out of money for gibs
>Actual state runs out of water for drinking
>State implodes
>Entire generation gets redpilled
>Americans retake Commiefornia and drive out invaders
>America turns red forever
Find a flaw in this. Pro-tip: you can't

>But first we need gibs to fix all the damage this fire caused by an illegal caused in our sanctuary state.
I love you fire-chan. My love for you will never stop burning in my heart-- maybe it can rekindle your glory in San Francisco.

I'm for it, balkanization of the USA is something that would for sure make the world a better place.

t. Jordi, but that's not the reason

They know Silicon Valley can relocate overnight and would the second the rest of the country isn't subsidizing their socialism experiment. Also only the coastal area would actually secede. So they'd have absolutely nothing left.

Good luck Californians in your fight against the fascist thief American government, you gotta get your freedom and money back before it's too late and your people are left with nothing.

Greetings from the next European country, the switzerland of the Mediterrean sea
CATALONIA :)

>10 years

I'm going to bulgaria this winter. How many squirrels to fuck your entire female population?

I'm guessing somewhere around 14

>EU education

Because 51% of a State's population cannot force the other 49% to lose US citizenship. We'd have a second March to the Sea.

this

cali not understanding that most of its potable water comes from the fed.
enjoy your last 2 weeks of life, commiefornians.

Because even though it generates a lot of money, imy state is pants-on-head retarded when it comes to spending it. They piss it away on stupid projects nobody wants, like the high speed rail thing, and illegal immigrants. That's why they're quick to turn around and beg POTUS for money to fix their shit.

I honestly hope it secedes. It'd be a great excuse to fuck with the infrastructure since it's no longer American soil.

We should annex California desu

The reason they don't separate is because once they get fucking demolished by the san andreas fault, they're going to need all the FEMA money just to rebuild a smidgen of their infrastructure. If they didn't have massive natural disasters all the time and didn't have massive risk for them in the future, they would secede.

Eyyy california niggaz be bitches, let them seperate me and my chiraq niggaz will fuck them up. Fuck compton and that bitch nigga tupac! Cheif Keef 2020

>hoover dam is in NV/AZ

lights out spics.

So they would nolonger be a source of drugs?
Im fine with that.
cellphones come from china, and oranges come from florida so fuck them.

A State that has regular and reliable wildfires threatening to leave the country that provides them with disaster relief? OK GTFO.

I have a better idea though. Since California believes so hard in communism and socialism it's time that they pay their fair share. They are the worlds 6th largest economy supposedly they should be giving the federal covernemtn more of their GDP and income to help out less fortunate states. California is the 1%.

They forgot the 8 million Mexicans gripping it's legs, making it unable to move forward