Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator.
With that said let's get this ball rolling.
Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template
Bump National capitalism is capitalism with traits of nationalism and traditionalism
Joshua Robinson
>National Socialism will never work in the US You can argue that we already kinda have it. And no what we currently have does not work
Oliver Green
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Matthew Hernandez
Split up first then
David Young
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Cooper Lopez
daily reminder the capitalist class must be subjugated, they must serve the nation. the barriers between classes must be destroyed and cooperations between them must be encouraged
death to liberalism death to egalitarianism death to internationalism
Leo Reyes
I agree with this. We have elements of socialism, capitalism and fascism. It depends on what lens you use as to whether or not we're one thing or another. All I know is that the mess we live in is falling apart. I don't want this place to go harder to the left. Formal Socialism is one of the few things I fear.
David Foster
you guys do some good work against the commies but capitalism is just as bad in it's ultimate interpretation
nationalism is the way to go
Chase Gutierrez
I like this.
Aiden Cooper
This is the ultimate form of government. It protects freedom and doesn't punish people for being successful, while keeping national identities and cultures intact and not letting society become degenerate.
Austin Young
>freedom what a useless concept
Luis Foster
The usa is a tyrannical empire in its final hours due to:
>Having too many different interest groups in society >Having opposing political ideologies push and pull the state in opposite directions >The undue influence of military industrial security surveillance media complex >Kikes using you as a weapon to achieve their goals with no care for the hubris you will endure becuase of it
You shouldn't try to copy Germany. It's not for you. The founding fathers gave you everything you need to be an ideal nation you just have to possess the character to live up to what they expected of you. To water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
Lucas Roberts
Jesus Christ this is awful. Unbelievably moronic.
Brayden Lopez
You will be physically removed commie
Nathaniel Murphy
Not sure we need a separate general for this though. Wouldn't this fit into /lrg/?
Bentley Smith
To many leftist claim to be Libertarians
Eli Moore
Just call it Conservatism. That's what National Capitalism is. It's Conservatism.
Colton Ross
Nice rebuttal, I see you took time and consideration to present a mountain of facts to debunk this ideology, you made a great point and I applaud you for that
Jaxon Edwards
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Brandon Perry
Most conservatives aren't really pro-free market. They want the government to help the (((multinationals))).
Jason Diaz
Conservative's aren't perfect but they're not communist and we agree on things. Logical allies
Kayden Powell
lol
Ryder Nelson
National Capitalism combined with constitutional monarchy?
Noah Green
libertarianism is a leftist ideology
Brandon Wilson
How so?
Brayden Martinez
I like this flag. Blue and white purity vs evil red and black anarcho commies
Evan Hernandez
You will be physically removed
Luis Myers
Heck, let's just do like the Estonians.
Joshua Bell
liberalism is ussualy associated with the left
Ian Hughes
How does national capitalism work?
Any recommended literature?
Noah Gutierrez
Maybe it was at one time, but these days classical liberalism is strongly associated with the right.
Caleb Nguyen
We don't want natsoc with the current gov. With the current gov we want to hold on to what constitution we have left. We don't want ZOG to have to have anymore power than they have. We are talking about the ideal gov for a future white ethnostate based on maintaining white supremacy. Will it be several principalities which have a defense pact, will it be natsoc, will it be natcap, constitutional rep, one nation under kingship, etc.
Brayden Miller
only on Sup Forums and in america by illiterate retards. liberalism represents no "rightwing" values. you too will get a helicopter ride
David Price
Natcap in my opinion: >Encourage free market and capitalism that benefits the nation and is moral (sweatshops are a no of course, aswell as exporting labour) >Focus economy to be manurfacturing based, China are good at this. What we don't want is shit like Hollywood holding an economy, we wanna producing. >Encourage self sustainability by taxing imports more, this will encourage primary businesses to open and hire locals >Encourage close business ties, especially with smaller businesses. Businesses should be working together rather than fucking each-other over until one is in the dirt. >Encourage (not force) nationalism through actions such as: Restoring, funding and building new monuments and historical locations, teaching a positive nationalistic view of the country in schools, support a nationalistic state media, and host more nationalistic parades and sporting events. People should be allowed to still not like the nation but they will be encouraged to be a patriot. >Invest in a strong defensive military >Discourage mega jew-corporations, large businesses are fine until they start fucking over the small guy.
>get a natcap memeflag on the 4 chans Anything I missed?
Grayson Brooks
What's to debunk? This is a revolting ramping up of the current order of things with some nativist window dressing. In the end the expediencies of servicing the market and particularly in enriching finance capital will always take precedent over the volk so long as 'capitalism' is seen as a good in itself. Markets are only good insofar as they serve the interests of the society they occur in. This national capitalism is a base and retarded neoconservatism with a dash of fashy mystique and nothing else. It is only a militarized liberalism. Most likely appeals to slow witted faggots that still think helicopter memes are funny and are incapable of forming a cogent critique of the president. This is literally the worst ideology I have ever seen espoused on this web site and the world is more stupid for this dumb shit even existing. Go jerk off to pictures of Pinochet sucking Milton Friedmans cock you fucking brainless piece of shit . You've no loyalty to anything strong, lofty or noble.
Ian Lewis
Ok, what the fuck actually is NatCap?
Hudson Powell
People who have never read a fucking book and are educated about political science entirely by memes on Sup Forums trying to form a 'radical' position that in no way reacts to or challenges fundamentally any aspect of the status quo.
Evan Martin
Classical liberalism/libertarianism has been associated with the right ever since Marx published the communist manifesto.
Andrew Sanchez
As a socialist you very well may be subject to physical removal
Anthony Davis
Hans Herman Hopp
Bentley Gray
>liberalism represents no "rightwing" values Hierarchy, hard work, and self-reliance are considered left-wing values now?
Tyler Rodriguez
You have no idea what libertarianism in the US is.
Brayden Anderson
No I won't you fucking larper. You are just going to suck republican cock for the rest of your life as they sell you and your kind down the fucking river to the benefit of arms manufacturers and high finance you sycophantic piece of shit. You are the white genocide you stupid, clueless faggot.
Dylan Martin
Obviously I didn't mean dude weed lmao what is aleppo nu-libertarianism.
Christopher Watson
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Christopher Hill
Update of the Above Anarcho-Capitalist variant. This version would appeal more to patriots, and to individuals who like the symbolism of Red(Strength) White (Purity) and Blue (Unity)
Cameron Edwards
>a flag within a flag No
Eli Gutierrez
Natcap is not anti-communist action and anti-communist action is not natcap Stop polluting natcap threads with anticom, You are an anti Antifa group, we are a political identity and movement.
