In the interest of stopping your shitposters from flooding out board EVERY SINGLE DAY with the same debunked infographics about the Holocaust, I have compiled some historical sources, first-hand material, and other proof that the Holocaust really happened, as backed by the historical record.
We have memos talking about the gassing chambers, evidence of the corpses and mass graves, memos detailing the number of Jews killed each month by the einsatzgruppen, letters from German soldiers admitting the deed, the gassing chambers have traces of cyanide everywhere, hundreds of thousands of clothing items found at Auschwitz, and even Gobbels' diaries admitting the deed.
I have all this info from saved threads and debates I had with stormfags flooding our board, before you call me a "shill" or some shit please keep in mind all I'm doing here is copy pasting old posts from /his/, this took me half an hour at most.
Maybe some of you will finally wake up to the fact that you are being duped and used by pepemaga frogposting memes into denying one of the most well-recorded and tragic events in history, not just for the estimated 5.5 million Jews that died, but also for the other 6 million Europeans including Slavs, political dissidents, and so on that were also victims, totalling 11.5-12 million civilians overall.
I hope this thread doesn't get deleted like the previous one I made, which was removed for no reason whatsoever. Let's see if Sup Forums is truly a "free speech zone" rather than a neonazi echo chamber.
1943 memo by SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Karl Bischoff [Chief Architect at Auschwitz-Birkenau] concerning the progress made on Krematorium II.
In this letter, the word "Vergasungskeller" is used to describe the supposed "morgue." that has been identified as the Auschwitz gas chamber.
That word means exactly what it sounds like: "gassing basement," a (homicidal) gas chamber. This was a slip which not only proves that there was a gas chamber in Krema II, but that the architect Bischoff knew exactly what he was constructing.
As Pressac points out, "The inspection report enclosed with the letter makes it possible, through a process of elimination, to establish that Bischoff uses 'Vergasungskeller' to designate 'Leichenkeller I' of Krematorium II."
Holocaust-deniers have claimed that this room was not a homicidal gas chamber. What it is they are less sure of. They have proposed that it is (Leuchter) a morgue, (Mattogno) a delousing chamber, (Faurisson) a storage place for fumigation supplies, or (Butz) a fuel gas generation room or sewage treatment room or air-raid shelter.
Note that the term used by the Nazis for the delousing chambers was "desinfektionskammer" ("disinfection chambers"), and they were located on a different sector of the camp, so this term cannot be refering to delousing operations.
Joseph Collins
Memo follows: >Subject: Krematorium II. State of construction >Reference: SS-WVHA telegram 2648 of 28/1/43 >Enclosure: 1 Inspection Report
>To Head of Amtsgruppen C >SS Lieutenant-General and Waffen SS Major-General >Dr. Ing [Engineer] Kammler
>Berlin Lichterfelde West >Under den Eichen 126-135
>Krematorium II has been completed but for minor details, thanks to employing all available forces, despite enormous difficulties and freezing weather, using day and night shifts. The furnaces have been lit in the presence of Herr Chief Engineer Prufer of the firm responsible for their construction, Topf & Sons of Erfurt, and they function perfectly. Because of the frost, it has not yet been possible to remove the formwork from the ceiling of the corpse cellar. This is of no consequence, however, as the gassing cellar can be used to this end.
>Because the wagons are blocked, Messrs Topf & Sons have not been able to deliver on time the ventilation and air extraction installations as requested by the Bauleitung. These will be fitted as soon as they arrive, so that it is probable that the installation will be entirely ready for service on 20th February 1943.
>Please find enclosed a report by the inspecting engineer of Topf & Sons, Erfurt.
>Head of the Auschwitz Waffen SS and Police >Central Construction Management
>[signed] Bischoff >SS Captain
>Distribution: >1 SS Second Lieutenants Janisch and Kirschneck
>For Archives >[signed] Pollok >SS Second Lieutenant (S) >(Pressac, Jean Claude; "Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers; The Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, NY, 1989; pg.211)
Hudson Garcia
PROOF #2: Posen speech
In this speech, given by Himmler to high-ranking Nazi officials behind closed doors, on October 4, 1943, he describes the ongoing efforts in accomplishing the "extermination of the Jewish race", describing "thousands of corpses" and his efforts to punish those Nazi officers who stole "marks, furs or watches" from the "bodies" of the Jews.
In this memo, Kurt Prüfer, top senior engineer from Topf & Sons, the company that manufactured the crematory ovens, describes the capacity to burn 80,000* bodies per month at Auschwitz-Birkenau as "not yet sufficient".
Why was a capacity to burn 80,000 bodies a month at Auschwitz-Birkenau deemed "not yet sufficient" in this 1942 memo?
Why did they need to burn more than 80,000 bodies a month in a camp that had a peak capacity to hold only 200,000 people?
* This is the lowest minimum conservative estimate that can be extrapolated from this memo, the actual number calculated from this memo is 104,160 bodies per month (or 3472 per day), assuming the ovens functioning at 73% effectiveness.
James Harris
Holocaust never happened. You can't put the genie back into the bottle. Don't even try to.
Jonathan Ramirez
PROOF #4: Einsatzgruppen experiments with "gas vans"
We know einsatzgruppen [Ethnic-cleansing death squads in the East] had numerous problems with desertions and suicides. As a result, experiments were conducted with "gassing vans", but these were still cumbersome as they drew the attention of people and could only fit a few people at a time, leading to the Wansee Conference and the "Final Solution"
We have all of this documented, Germans described this with cold-hearted efficiency, like this letter describing the operation of an experimental gassing van on the Eastern Front:
>Experience shows, however, that when the back door is closed and it gets dark inside, the load pushes hard against the door. The reason for this is that when it becomes dark inside the load rushes toward what little light is left.
>This hampers the locking of the door. It has also been noticed that the noise provoked by the locking of the door is linked to the fear aroused by the darkness. It is therefore expedient to keep the lights on before the operation and during the first few minutes of its duration. Lighting is often useful for night work and for the cleaning of the interior of the van.
We have the physical copies and scans of these letters and reports. Pic related.
Luis Long
i support attempts to compile information that proves the holocasut happens but it doesnt matter.
the alt right will memory hole the holocaust when the overton window shifts. whether it did or did not happen people here have no interest in being objective about it.
Carter Rivera
Hello autismo Can you show me some German video footage made in the concentration camps?
Nathaniel Perez
PROOF #5: Forensic Report by the Polish Institute of Forensic Research
In order Markiewicz, Gubala, and Labedz made measurements of their own. They found traces of cyanide in the homicidal chambers at significant levels compared to other buildings at the Auschwitz-Birkenau sight. They write:
The present study shows that in spite of the passage of a considerable period of time (over 45 years) in the walls of the facilities which once were in contact with hydrogen cyanide the vestigial amounts of the combinations of this constituent of Zyklon B have been preserved. This is also true of the ruins of the former gas chambers. The cyanide compounds occur in the building materials only locally, in the places where the conditions arose for their formation and persistence for such a long time.
Pressac describes a gassing that took place March 13, 1943:
That same night, 1,492 women, children, and old people, selected from a convoy of 2,000 Jews from the Krakow ghetto, were killed in the new crematorium.133 Six kilos of Zyklon B were poured into the stacks that opened into the four grillework columns implanted between the pillars that supported the ceiling.133 Within five minutes, all the victims had succumbed. The aeration (8,000 cu m an hour) and deaeration system (same strength) were then started up and, after 15 to 20 minutes, the atmosphere, which had been practically renewed every three to four minutes, was sufficiently pure so that members of the Sonderkommando could enter the stiflingly hot gas chamber. During this first gassing [in the new Krema II gas chamber-my note RJG], the Sonderkommandos wore gas masks as a precaution. The bodies were untangled and dragged to the goods elevator. Hair was clipped, gold teeth pulled out, wedding rings and jewels removed.
Luke Jones
Cool, show me a document that DIRECTLY talks about murdering jews without going through absurd mental gymnastics to infer they are.
Levi Kelly
you sure use the word "supposed" a lot for someone with proof
Oliver Foster
jews can only count to 6
Jeremiah Turner
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Colton Myers
Fuck off JIDF.
It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.
In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.
It doesn't matter, the Nazis could have gassed a billion kikes. Jews are still vile people who have to be removed from every Western country. No amount of supposed Jewish suffering is enough to justify putting up with their kikery.
Dominic Collins
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Jaxon Harris
The holocaust did happen but its way over exaggerated and you fucking know it OP. Stop being such a brain washed little drone.
William Gonzalez
PROOF #6: Letter by the Red Cross debunking their oft-quoted wartime report
Ryan Torres
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Liam Wright
>no goy it really happened Nobody cares heebro.
Daniel Perez
>2,000 jews >104,000 bodies (no mention of cause of death) muh 6 million™ gas yourself
Cooper Wood
English version
Wyatt Gray
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Benjamin Butler
can only count to six
Luke Roberts
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Jordan Cox
>1976 >21 years after damn, it's like the jews and global super powers forced an organization to lie or face the consequences
Matthew Morgan
Finally, 21 questions Holocaust denialists have been unable to answer, with sources (unlike the Stormfag version which is unsourced)
Nolan Morgan
>proof that the Holocaust really happened who cares? that was like 80 years ago. how long are you kikes going to milk this cow?
Jace Rivera
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Alexander Butler
This doesn't really say that the gassing was used to kill people, and not because of the known typhus problem in the camps.
This kinda says they can't do it.
They seem to be describing technical problems, but nothing about gassing people with the intent to kill them.
it prob did happen, but not to the extent most claim it to be
Jonathan Evans
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Ian Anderson
Quit talking to yourself, Chaim.
Julian Martin
Addressed in the second post
None of those allegations were ever supported by historians with credentials, just opportunists writing sensationalist books.
It'd be like someone 100 years from now claiming the WTC fell from an earthquake and 911 never happened because of David Icke's books saying the planes were holograms.
Same as above.
Grayson Peterson
Can somebody shoop a merchant on this in honor of OP?
Daniel Stewart
Doesn't this kinda debunk the whole thing?
Aaron Gutierrez
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Gavin Ortiz
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Chase Gutierrez
>(((historian))) here its been eighty years and you're still milking what isn't proven to be 6 million dead Jews
but what we do have proven is the around 66 million Russians killed by the Jewish communist government take over. and the 28 million Ukrainians that were killed by the Jewish led Soviet Union.
You don't hear Eastern Europeans still milking it when the death toll was over 10 fold you're unproven estimation
Isaiah King
Get in here. Evidence of pedophilia in Hollywood.
Jackson Gonzalez
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Brayden Kelly
No because 1 jew life is worth 20 goyim.
Robert Russell
come back when you have the Bolshevik revolution down
Grayson Ross
it's not like jews are proven liars
Joseph Stewart
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Jeremiah Lopez
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Henry Sullivan
>This doesn't really say that the gassing was used to kill people, and not because of the known typhus problem in the camps. Why would you put a delousing chamber on a basement marked on the plans as a morgue? [Leitchenskeller]
Why put them in a different sector of the camps and refer to it by a different word than commonly used?
>This kinda says they can't do it. No, it says they can do it. 80,000 bodies a month is the installed capacity that already existed at the time of writing the memo. They consider this "not yet sufficient". The crematoriums were expanded further a year later.
>They seem to be describing technical problems, but nothing about gassing people with the intent to kill them. They clearly describe gassing people if you follow the link and read the entire letter.
Christopher Lee
>she >her
Asher Lopez
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Robert Roberts
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Thomas Smith
I know it's tempting to believe in the holohoax, i even find myself fantasizing about it from time to time, a world with 6 gorillion jews less, but that is not excuse to invent this data.
Mason Cooper
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Jonathan Rodriguez
Yes, at least 40 million people were killed in the Soviet Union during Stalin's time, half of them starved to death in the "Holodomor".
I have also debated Soviet apologists on /his/ about it.
Leo Wilson
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Juan Barnes
Isn't this the girl(?) Sam Hyde face fucked?
Kevin Flores
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Julian Ramirez
It never happened OP is a kike
Carson Davis
were there any death camps where the western investigated? Yes or No show me the proof if you say yes
Jose Campbell
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Jose Ortiz
I've always remained a little distanced from fully accepting whether or not it actually happened, but even if someone were to fully debunk 'holocaust deniers,' people here still advocate for a second holocaust.
Dominic Thomas
Nice holocaust bluepill thread. I don't know exactly what happened in those camps during the second world war. All I know is that the fact that even being skeptictal or curious about related facts is illegal in multiple european countries is proof that something is being hidden.
When it is illegal to wuestion the exact death count, yet the stone at auschwitz changes from 4 million to 1.5 million, while the overall amount remains identical, you know that the official story is anything but accurate.
I'm not so much a truthfinder. That is very hard. I'm just a bullshit finder. Since OP does not account for the crazy treatment of David Cole or David Irving, he won't be convincing me, though I welcome the challenge.
Logan Davis
Most of the doors in the facilities were destroyed by either the retreating SS or advancing Russians. The SS and concentration camp guards converted gas chambers into makeshift air raid shelters as the Russians drew nearer, and replaced the doors with ones that could be opened from the inside. Few of the original doors in these structures survive-- but here's one.
2005 photo of what is officially believed to be the original entrance door.
The supposed wooden doors in your picture were interior doors between the washroom and the room that was the gas chamber proper. The door which actually sealed in the victims into the structure was metal, as shown in the picture.
Austin Campbell
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Ayden Ortiz
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Owen Thompson
W-we got em r-right OP?
Liam Wood
isn't that cute chick on youtube?
Cameron Wright
answer the question you coward! were there any death camps discovered by western allies?! yes or no
Jose Cox
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Grayson Jones
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Adam Fisher
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Nathaniel Ross
Let's start with puiing some thinks straight. Contrary to MSN narrative. Pepe is not a symbol of neo-nazis. There are nazi pepes distinctive by nazi uniform. But bulk of /ppol/ is truly and unironically interested I preserving white race and securing future for our children. Nothing unexpected, nothing ekstreme.
David Martinez
Daily reminder,Argentina has the largest jewish community in south america.
Jose Kelly
Nobody seems to be disproving anything OP is saying. If you want to convince people, try arguments rather than .jpgs from your "Holohoax proof" folder.
Liam Clark
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Juan Turner
hermanos de nariz
Anthony Martin
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Samuel Robinson
Historian you say?
No you are a lying Jew. No amount of evidence will suffice becos you must Jew, If exposing the Holocaust lie reaches critical mass, you and your vile, parasitic species know what will happen to you
Hunter Morales
Show me 6 million bodies and I’ll give a fuck.
Chase Nelson
Gobbels had a diary? Diaries? lol
Austin Ross
Investigated? Yes. Liberated? No.
All the "extermination camps" were located in Central Poland, away from the eyes of German civilians, and were thus liberated by the Soviets. This, however, is irrelevant since the Allies did liberate concentration camps were mass graves, death marches and other forms of mistreatment were also uncovered.
Over half of the Holocaust deaths ocurred under the Einsatzgruppen which operated in the East, and were carried out by execution. We have plenty of evidence - mass graves, executions, photographs that are still open to Western forensics experts these days.
In Majdanek, too, you have the infamous "Prussian Blue" stains that Holocaust deniers complain about.
Parker Russell
Enough info is posted Herschel. The smart people will dig into the resources for themselves instead of listening to your snake's tongue.
Levi Flores
>MFW I just witnessed one of the most brutal anime executions of all time.
Charles Powell
that's why he's not answering. He's got a grand total of "1,488 bodies" here and "88 faked memos" there but nothing beyond that.
Austin Jones
because people are dying of typhus in a prison camp and you don't really know what to do with them. You also don't care, it's a prison camp.
>No, it says they can do it. It said they couldn't get capacity yet.
I dunno, there's a lot of evidence of a typhus outbreak, and a lot of reason to spray for bugs (regardless of the consequences). It sounds like they were trying to stop the disease from spreading and may or may not cared about the human lives involved.
I don't think anyone denies bad stuff happened in the concentration camps, but I am having a hard time believing they rounded up millions of people and gassed and burned them all day. It's a huge waste of time and resources.
They rounded up millions of people and put them into forced labour camps, with poor living conditions. Executes people who couldn't work to save money, and had a serious typhus outbreak sometime in 42-43 which required cremating the dead and gassing to prevent from spreading makes a lot more sense.
Aaron Walker
You can call me a kike all you want, but you're still not actually making an argument. Telling people to just look at your infographics as proof is at best lazy and at worst dishonest.
Adam Martinez
>tragic event
Only thing tragic is that Hitler didn't finish his goal.
Blake Lopez
I'll take a crack at a couple of questions:
>3. Why hasn't any german recanted? It's illegal and punishable by prison sentence. Why is it illegal?
>5 why would jews inflate the victim number?
Seriously? You even need to ask? Because being the victim of the worst genocide is politically advantageous. I mean even if you accept the holocaust as advertised, then the holodomor and soviet genocides are worse, but they were on winning side of the war and had those instances not classified as genocide.
More victims = more sympathy.
Also, if jewish deaths were lowered by 2.5 million, for example, then the new numbers would have more non-jewish deaths than jewish deaths and that wouldn't make it a political weapon.
(I forgot the chinese communist genocide for a second, which had even more deaths than either)
Justin Cox
Genuinely curious, have any archaeologists recovered bones and teeth in mass quantities from burned victims?
Nathan Clark
Without real context, OP's snippets don't really prove much of anything. It doesn't specifically mention they are gassing people for the intent of mass murder. It doesn't specifically mention they are burning bodies because they are performing mass executions.
I'm trying not to be a holocaust denier here... in all honesty. But the whole gas chamber story doesn't really work.
Nathaniel Russell
Oy vey at least 2 million were eaten by bears & eagles and another 2 million were burnt entirely to ash using a primitive furnace.
Carter Richardson
>Why would you put a delousing chamber on a basement marked on the plans as a morgue? [Leitchenskeller]
>Why put them in a different sector of the camps and refer to it by a different word than commonly used?
That's not really an argument
Jaxson Scott
ohh sweety, so you're admitting (((Bolsheviks))) are the only ones to see the "extermination" camps?! did the allies lie about the "human skin" lamp shades? did the allies lie about the human soap? did the allies lie about the shrunken heads? just keep it simple coward. yes or no
Josiah Carter
>It said they couldn't get capacity yet. No, it very clearly says that they currently have a capacity to burn 80,000 bodies per month and they need to increase it more. Read the memo scan please, you can translate it yourself with google translate if you are really interested in digging the truth.
>I am having a hard time believing they rounded up millions of people and gassed and burned them all day. That is how Aktion T4 worked as well. Aktion T4 was a program of euthanasia for the retarded and other disabled people. It was not hidden and they openly used gas chambers to kill these people.
Using Zyklon gas pellets is actually cheaper and more efficient than using bullets, it is not quite a stretch.
>They rounded up millions of people and put them into forced labour camps, with poor living conditions. This too. In the East, women, children and the elderly were exterminated on the spot while able-bodied men were used for labor until they died from exhaustion.
