When listening to Richard Spencer, I can't help but cringe a bit when he says things like "We are part of a story! a family" when referring to the white race.
I hate that women and shitskins have weaponized identity politics, but doing the same thing for white men just feels effeminate.
You never hear Richard Spencer or other "Identitarians" ever talk about MERIT. Nothing about your value being connected to your skills, abilities, accomplishments or any of that shit. Just "white identity" and all that.
That's what I hate about identity politics. It becomes a scapegoat from personal responsibility for some odd reason. If some stupid nigger gets shot by a cop while robbing a store, every dumb fucking nigger rushes out into the streets because the person shot was BLACK. Doesn't matter if he was a criminal, it just matters that he was BLACK. Doesn't matter that black people make up 12% of the population and commit 50% of the crime, just matters that THEY ARE BLACK, so when a black person is held responsible for anything, it is somehow an attack on black people everywhere.
Exact same story with feminism. Any problem a woman has instantly reflects back to her "identity", not because she's a worthless fucking whore with a terrible personality and no talent.
And now white people are falling into this trap. I hear these sentiments like "Jews have poisoned White culture with Jewish social engineering". Of course that is true to some degree, but why the fuck did white people comply to it? Oh I know, because most white people are fucking degenerates. That's why.
How do we stop identity politics? Is it simply a product of having to live in a society with low-IQ shitskins?
He's a spoiled brat who pushes the most effeminate right-wing political ideology I've ever heard in my life.
Everything just boils down to "UR MOM N DAD WERE EUROPEAN AND THEY FUCKED, SO NOW U R SPESHUL. DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE"
Fucking retarded.
Brayden Rogers
>"Jews have poisoned White culture with Jewish social engineering" Ahhh...there it is...why so mad chaim?
Liam White
yeah and continue to cry as collectives of niggers, kikes, and spics win everytime
Wyatt Turner
>why u no individualism
Because life is hard, and success is a fickle bitch goddess.
Aaron Collins
"individualism" in a non-white society doesn't work,retard
Evan Rivera
Racial identity politics would not be a thing if we lived in an all white society. You want and end to this, you need an ethnostate.
Gabriel Sanders
The only way to not have identity politics is a homogeneous population, the only to keep that homogeneous population is identity politics. Individualism is self defeating unfortunately
Charles Jackson
Why aren't you addressing the fact that I said it was true?
Oh, because my statement is correct. White people fell for Jewish tricks because they're weak retarded degenerates. Now the alt-right wants to come along and be like "NO WE R VICTIMS OF JEWISH TRICKS :("
No fucktards. Boomers rejected religion, divorced their wives because they weren't getting enough blowjobs at the age of 50, and wanted to float on their faggot ass boat watching cuckball all weekend.
Too many whites are complete degenerates. If they weren't degenerates, then the jews wouldn't have won.
Same with niggers. They were stupid enough to get their dumbasses enslaved, but they won't even take responsibility for that. It's just "WHITE PEPO".
Now for white people it's "THE JEWS".
Ayden Perez
>Is it simply a product of having to live in a society with low-IQ shitskins?
Read pic related
tl;dr diversity reduces civic cohesion/community feeling which inevitably results in identity politics as a (poorly conceived) substitute for community
Samuel Taylor
Every society before the American Revolution was collectivist.
All dictatorships are built on altruism
The western experiment has worked for 200 years and look at the technological advances in that time. We must stop ourselves from falling back into the dark ages as a result of collectivism, and promote individualism above all.
Read some Ayn Rand OP.
Benjamin Hughes
Individualism is great when you are not under assault. Either we work together to preserve ourselves, or we will all be taken out by the stronger collectivist minority groups.
Benjamin Bennett
No, it's not enough to just "be huwhite" to qualify as a good person. But it is a base necessary condition if you want to claim membership in European society. All people like Spencer are defending is the idea that race is integral to nationality, e.g. a nigger cannot be a German or a Swede or a Briton or a Ukrainian, despite what internationalist cosmopolitans want you to believe.
Yeah, let's sacrifice the white race for some shitty modern ideals invented a few hundred years ago.
Christopher Martinez
identity politics are the only politics that exist dont be a retard in the end all that counts is the tribe
Hunter Cook
How do we stop identity politics? Is it simply a product of having to live in a society with low-IQ shitskins? homogeneity is the only way it will ever stop
Carson Garcia
The Netherlands was pretty individualist desu senpai
I prefer to evolve past the primitive ape OP is right
Isaac Diaz
I liked you better when you were larping as anti SJW libertarian.
Andrew James
>just be just like everyone else and we we won't need identity politics Great realization there chap
Jonathan Bennett
Yeah man, fuck accepting differences between races and admitting there are differences. We're all one race, the human race! Right based pedes?!
Ethan Peterson
you are fucking morons who let scam artists take over
I will continue making moves that get me girls and money and you will continue to implode
you went full retard
Joseph Morales
>making fun of identity politics means being "colorblind" >le' reddit meme
faggot
Kevin Lopez
And now white people are falling into this trap. I hear these sentiments like "Jews have poisoned >White culture with Jewish social engineering". Of course that is true to some degree, but why the fuck did white people comply to it? Oh I know, because most white people are fucking degenerates. That's why.
do you not understand how brainwashing works.
all the media is social justice warriors being 'politically correct' its social engineering. the brainwashing is happening in schools colleges all over america.
the jews continue to push this suicide cult of diversity and multiculturalism - white people wont exist anymore.
Ayden Cook
Only faggot here is you. Lines are being drawn whether you like it or not. You can think it's gay and it is in that we've reached the point where we have to fight fire with fire, but that's how it is. Anything else is surrender.
Luke Richardson
Oyyyy we iz whitesteins an shitzkwitz
Nolan White
if you still think in group support is "pathetic" when every other group has ingroup preference then dont be surprised that whites get fucked over by other groups. No having a group is necessary to mount a defense against others trying to genocide (like sjw try with whity)
Jaxon Roberts
It really is fucking retarded but the best argument for it is "everyone else is doing it and will not stop so you're going to get completely fucked over if you don't too."
Matthew Smith
Richard Spencer is a fucktard larper or just a regular fucktard and actually listening to him is a mistake. The sooner that the right in general disavows him and acknowledges that he's a lunatic, the better.
Kevin Ramirez
lol when society is geared towards positive identity politics for all groups besides white people, and there is an active effort to make whites minorities in their own countries, the only solution is identity politics. We have to play their game. If someone plays dirty and shoots at you, you shoot back or die.
If identity politics are gay, explain to me the alternative? Should we let millions of foreigners in, who despite IQ or "merit" will consistently vote left wing, and transform our society? Seriously, refute me if you can cunt
David White
forgot to add: i dont like identity politics either, but we work as a group or the country will look like brazil 20 years from now
the jews wont stop the mass immigration willingly. that much i know. just look at the police state in israel and how they are treating palestenians. that is the future they want for white people.
Jason Myers
>but why the fuck did white people comply to it? It was inevitable as soon as women were given the right to vote.
Hunter Bailey
>richard spencer a shitskin nigger - mestizo married to a hu-white like himself doesnt speak for white people
Chase Adams
The thing about identity politics is it's exactly like nationalism. If you don't have pride in your heritage and where you come from, others who do will slowly chop away at what's yours and call it theira. It's a communist subversion tactic. If you don't care for your nation why would you care what happens to it? If you don't care for your race why would you care what happens to it? But other people do care for their race and nation, and are prioritising them, to your detriment.
Jack Watson
You ever notice though how black people refer to themselves as a family, feminists are sisters as well. Black people with this family mentality seem to believe white people also have this same mentality and also only look out for their own not realizing that we don't identify with our race at all. I don't give a shit about a random white person nor do I feel responsible for their crime, or the need to defend them but that's because if we did do the white identity thing it would be glaringly racist. At the same time because feminists and black people believe they are a unit when one escapes from the group and has their own thoughts or doesn't follow the same script they're a coon, or an uncle tom or if they're a feminist they have internalized misogyny because they aren't allowed to do this. They see the outsiders as their oppresses but they do it to themselves by feeling threatened and not allowing each other to succeed.
James Bennett
I disavow Richard Spencer btw, but see literally nothing wrong with identity politics - athnic preference is a biological feature that only white people are expected to disregard. Every race except whites are nepotistic, and will get head of us because of this.
Are Japanese people low iq idpol cunts for refusing to let foreigners (non ethnically japanese) vote in their elections? Why can everybody except white people do this?
Anthony Green
Eli Mosley said at the university: "We learned identity politics work this year"
We're here to stay. BTW I know I'm replying to a shitskin but anyway
Alexander Butler
I hate to break it to you fucking retards, but the reason why whites are losing is because they have no identity politics
Weird that the one fucking demographic destroying itself is also the ONLY ONE with no identity
Huh Really gets that noggin joggin
Dominic Sanders
>How do we stop identity politics? Is it simply a product of having to live in a society with low-IQ shitskins?
also yes. people have a sense of community when they are with their own kind. everything happening is a symptom of a broken/fractured society. diveristy is utopian world view that will NEVER work. it's suicidal expecting people of all races to get along
Luke Barnes
>t. Richard Spencer.
Jack Sullivan
Ah fuck off Andrew. If your shit failed underwater why would it work on land? Ironic that this is coming from an Australian too, considering what ebin :DDDD reddit reference I just made. 01-26 motherfucker.
Lincoln Foster
True. This shit works so well, you can't imagine how much muzzies hate identitarians
Only shitskins want to prevent white nationalism
John Wright
This
Brody Jones
i dont think white identity politics should stop, i do however think people like spencer and the alt-kike need to stop talking like cultish faggots as you pointed out, they're not going to get anyone on board talking like that, they need to be more personable, enoch is a pretty good example of how things should be
Aiden Martin
Jews get out, your arguement is factually wrong
Brody Hughes
I don't know if you're a shill or not. But I have to somewhat agree on the white degeneracy issue. This bothers me to no end. I frankly cannot understand how someone can allow themselves to be so brainwashed and hollowed out by progressivism. Is it our fault? It's discouraging user.
Angel Torres
>i do however think people like spencer and the alt-kike need to stop talking like cultish faggots as you pointed out
Spencer's brand of the alt-right is basically a cult.
His co-founder is a literal occultist. Look up other interviews with him besides this one, this guy is a fucking fruit loop.
I'm a fucking Civic Nationalist, which according to you guys, is a pussy prissy bullshit thing. But the fact is, if you get rid of all the Niggers, Crackers, Slants, Shitskins, Spics, and etcetera; well, my shit is most likely to work. Get rid of the bad and you're left with Whites, Blacks, Asians, Arabs, and Hispanics. I'm not saying none of that forced diversity shit needs to be a priority either. All I'm saying is that if someone is being a Nigger that that's pointed out. If someone is being a Cracker, the same shit applies. You fucks just lost hope, and I'll never lose my convictions and stance on this. And FYI, there is a difference between race. You're right about that. Doesn't mean you have to hang everyone who doesn't look like you. Only need to do so for those who are absolute scum, no matter what they are or who they are.
Josiah Morgan
>Spencer's brand of the alt-right is basically a cult.
i agree with this. cult mentality. can not handle any criticism of dickie spencer
Jordan Gomez
>And FYI, there is a difference between race. You're right about that. Doesn't mean you have to hang everyone who doesn't look like you. Only need to do so for those who are absolute scum, no matter what they are or who they are.
wrong. wanting to associate with people of your own kind is perfectly natural and normal.
it's abnormal if you want to live or be friends with blacks, latinos, asians etc. so you kind of still fucked up mentally bro
Henry Perry
I mean, on top of being a LITERAL cult (seriously, listen to Richard's obscure podcasts with his weird guests. The guy is out of his fucking mind), his presentation of white nationalism just fucking blows.
He can't argue, can't debate, and seems to seriously have a hard time articulating white nationalism. He talks like a pretentious liberal academic and dresses like a European homosexual.
Jared Taylor is pretty good. The guy presents facts, makes perfect sense, and can debate anybody.
Matthew Scott
>Jared Taylor is pretty good. The guy presents facts, makes perfect sense, and can debate anybody.
i like jared taylor but his video on eugenics was rather frightening.
Noah Hughes
Fuck off jew.
You're literally angry because white people are BARELY fighting fire with fire.
A day WILL come where people like you who believe they are superior because of a high IQ will wish they had picked a side when the mob is outside your door, that is probably full of dumb spics and niggers.
Carson Barnes
I only watched the beginning of that
Honestly every white nationalist's views on globalist socialist governmented and eugenics are usually pretty fucking creepy. Many of them are transhumanists as well.
Dominic Butler
>showing me crime statistics like you're going to enlighten me even though I just fucking cited the black crime statistics in my post you fucking retard
>A day WILL come where people like you who believe they are superior because of a high IQ will wish they had picked a side when the mob is outside your door, that is probably full of dumb spics and niggers.
W-wow menacing.
We can tell the hordes of niggers and shitskins to fuck off without having a creepy emotional circle jerk about our "EUROPEAN HERITAGE"
Emotional masturbation over identity politics should be mocked in all forms
Lincoln Torres
>I hate that women and shitskins have weaponized identity politics, but doing the same thing for white men just feels effeminate.
Don't use this effective weapon, goy. It's degenerate!
Justin Davis
t. fedora
Jackson Gray
>We can tell the hordes of niggers and shitskins to fuck off without having a creepy emotional circle jerk about our "EUROPEAN HERITAGE"
No. No you can't.
Parker Sanchez
>We can tell the hordes of niggers and shitskins to fuck off without having a creepy emotional circle jerk about our "EUROPEAN HERITAGE" kek. Yeah that worked so well up till now, didn't it.
Brody Sullivan
>You never hear Richard Spencer or other "Identitarians" ever talk about MERIT so you never listened to Jared Taylore even once?
but I agree, spencer is a cringey retard.
Jack Wilson
The problem is that if other races identify as a group based on race, then we must too. If we are individualist while the other races think as a group, then we are fucked, divided to the max.
Jack Price
Jared Taylor is breddy gud, avoids a lot of cringey bullshit. Just delivers the facts and watches leftists sperg the fuck out
Charles Miller
"Jews" is identity politics too, retard. Nationalism is tied to identity, shitbag.
Nolan Smith
THIS
Thomas Price
Civic nationalism is cancer, user.
Jack Nguyen
yes goy, be an individual, goy. Nevermind everyone else behaving like a collective, I'm sure you'll beat them as an individual.
Christopher Morales
I get where you are coming from, but escaping identity politics is pointless. The way to look it is like this. We know we are just another page in that story, but we can't continue that story unless we try to. What we see nowadays is people giving up. They don't want to have kids or leave a legacy behind because this would all be too much hard work. Identitarians on the other hand understand that in order to keep the story going, we need to achieve. I feel for you in that America has decided to bog itself down by talking about IQ and Jews, it's unfortunate. Here in Europe we have Generation identity, which doesn't care about creating an ethno-state, but still recognises that natives need to be a very large majority in order to preserve the ethno-cultural identity. I myself have quite a few friends that aren't native Britons or European but still culturally identify mostly with their host nation, primarily because they were born it. I only hope that America can resolve it's issues regarding race and culture and possibly even look to what we're doing in Europe for answers. We should not however think that Identity politics is inherently bad. It is just that the current manifestation created from the mixed cultures we both live in has caused there to be a social upheaval very few want.
Adam Campbell
Pol can you please gib a fashwave picture with Spencer which says "We don't have a regime, but we will"?
Christopher Sullivan
Not a argument to counter why hanging them would be okay.
Jackson Torres
Then explain why, Estonia?
Charles Diaz
(((Centrist))) kike gatekeepers get the rope too
Nicholas Jones
It can not uphold itself without ((())) at the helm.
Ryan Perez
Non white people are ugly and hate us. I don't want my descendants to live in an ugly non-white future. Individualism is not human nature. How will your descendants survive as individuals when other people group up against them? To have a successful country it really helps to have a united and single identity. Individualism would lead to a low trust and selfish society with great unrest.
Angel Ortiz
>That's what I hate about identity politics. It becomes a scapegoat from personal responsibility for some odd reason
Oh fuck off. You don't need to be surrounded by niggers and Arabs to have "personal responsibility" now just kill yourself already.
Luis Fisher
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Lucas Baker
It's funny because you're going to become a hated and abused minority in your own country
Luis Perry
It's just a necessary reaction to what's going on. They're trying to eradicate us and destroy any trace of our history.