Why did Alice in Wonderland explode in Japan? There's gotta be an uncountable number of manga, anime, games, and fanart out there that reference, retell, or take inspiration from Through the Looking Glass.
Sure, it's big in the West but that makes sense - it was made here.
Is it simply because Alice is a qt loli who goes on a magical adventure?
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it really does seem like an anime plot with a loli and everything
>loli
>magical items
>a strange new world
>talking animals
>violence
It is pretty evocative
Don't you know that Japan loves cute shit?
>You now realize that this man pioneered the loli genre
"Just as planned."
Why is Alice the most sexualized female character in fiction?
She's based on a loli the author wanted to fuck, so it's only polite to sexualize her for him.
They like Anne of Green Gables too, no?
What is he doing in that picture, polishing a knob?
Truly, Carroll was the proto-Sup Forumsnon
>My neighbor is a total loli. Should I go over and tell her "bedtime" stories?
>Don't forget the drugs, user.
>The ones that make me "grow" right?
Why has there not been a fully animated series of this done by Bones? I'd actually muster the effort go on CR and actually watch that shit
Alice anime design is just that good.
>Reading the wikipedia article that implies it was actually Alice's older sister about to go full yandere on him.
Explain?
Who should voice the various characters?
Her design is simply perfect
I know she isn't very well known but having Kana Ueda (Rachel Alucard from Blazblue) do Alice would be perfect
Also if Mamoru Miyano doesn't do Cheshire I will gut someone
Even as a trap!
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>The relationship between the Liddells and Dodgson suffered a sudden break in June 1863. There was no record of why the rift occurred, since the Liddells never openly spoke of it, and the single page in Dodgson's diary recording 27–29 June 1863 (which seems to cover the period in which it began) was missing;[citation needed] it has been speculated by biographers such as Morton N. Cohen that Dodgson may have wanted to marry the 11-year-old Alice Liddell, and that this was the cause of the unexplained break with the family in June 1863.[9] It was long suspected that her mother became uncomfortable with the idea of a grown man befriending her 11-year-old daughter.[citation needed]
>In 1996, Karoline Leach found what became known as the "Cut pages in diary" document[10]—a note allegedly written by Charles Dodgson's niece, Violet Dodgson, summarising the missing page from 27–29 June 1863, apparently written before she (or her sister Menella) removed the page. The note reads:
>> "L.C. learns from Mrs. Liddell that he is supposed to be using the children as a means of paying court to the governess—he is also supposed soon to be courting Ina"[citation needed][page needed]
>This might imply that the break between Dodgson and the Liddell family was caused by concern over alleged gossip linking Dodgson to the family governess and to "Ina" (Alice's older sister, Lorina).[citation needed] In her biography The Mystery of Lewis Carroll, Jenny Woolf suggests that the problem was caused by Lorina becoming too attached to Dodgson and not the other way around.[citation needed] Woolf then uses this theory to explain why "Menella [would] remove the page itself, yet keep a note of what was on it." The note, she submits, is a "censored version" of what really happened, intended to prevent Lorina from being offended or humiliated at having her feelings for Dodgson made public.[11][page needed]
>Alice and Lewis Carroll become close
>Sister develops feelings for LC
>Goes near-Yandere
>Families must separate to keep everyone safe
Would watch a dramatization of
She is super cute. I grew up in Japan and Alice in Wonderland was always my favorite American cartoon.
I assume the Disney adaption was dubbed over there? How is it?
>Mcgee's Alice version
>Alice is secretly Lorina who accidentally killed her family in a crazed fit and took on her sister's name and appearance. The red queen is the governess Carroll was trying to court.
I believe there are two official dubs. I have only seen one of them, which is the newer one. They do a good job with it, but I would imagine that for people who watched the English version first it is not as good. I saw the English one at my grandparent's house in America a year or so after I originally saw it so I still enjoy both of them.
I really do want to see the old Japanese dub though. I have seen clips of it around and in them Alice sounds way cuter than she does in the newer one.
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I didn't even know that there was an alice anime.
She is really cute
Actually there are three versions. I just looked it up. The clips I thought were the old version were a different version. The new and old ones have the same voice actress.
She sounds really cute here though, right? This is the version I want to see.
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I meant to quote you instead of my older post. I apologize.
>That voice
2cute4me
That actually sounds even more entertaining that Through the Looking Glass itself.
Lewis Carroll harem adaption when?
There is no anime...
>Alice in Wonderland is one of my favorite movies
>Weaboos on Sup Forums have to ruin it with their loli garbage
Fuck you
There is an old anime about her.
We talking cartoon or tim burton? Because the "movie" was fucking edgy dogshit that lost the source material down the deepest fucking rabbit hole that ever existed
Holy shit, when was this? Is it good?
Literally an early isekai. Was there anything older than Alice in Wonderland?
I have never seen it. It was in the 1980s. It is a 52 episode series.
I just want a cute, extremely faithful adaptation with one key difference: loli pantsu and fanservice
Give her guns
Make her fight ghosts/aliens/giant monsters
Shonen
Force Araki to draw a manga adaptation and have them pull a Gainax ending to fuck over Araki
>Cute innocent loli alice
>Yandere sister
>Boxum, seductive governess
>Tsundere Alice's Mom
>[citation needed]
Seriously? That's your proof?
It's literally an isekai with a loli in it
In itself, the books are pretty good with different layers of complexity so adults and kids can like it alike, specially the second one. Adults even more sometimes at seeing what was behind the story.
Add to that one of the cutest lolis ever made in fiction and you have the perfect bait for male adults.
Are you saying it's a bad thing?
But I just want my pantsu and lewd camera angles on top of the original story.
More isekai needs to be about a cute loli having a cute adventure.
Is "The Secret Garden" older?
she's a cute blond loli.
No, just saying why it's popular
Also, Disney is pretty much god over there so that helped too
Nothing to do with an isekai actually. Even the world is completely different to your usual isekai.
The only similar thing is a human being in a different world, and she only was there like a few hours at most, in both books.
Every other sentence with the [citation needed] tag has a source in the sentence so I don't know man. If you want a courtroom you're in the wrong place.
>she goes into another world
By definition it's isekai.
She's actually just dreaming of going to another world.
Isn't it just because recently there was a novel published with some really nice illustrations and that the most Japanese haven't read/watched it so it's new to them?
Or is she
>isekai with blonde loli
Gee, I wonder.
LC actually seems smarter than most LN writers because he used a loli instead of some shitty generic MC.
Beats me I'm not complaining though.
No, there has always been a number of various manga (especially shoujo) and vn, among other things, that took Alice as its inspiration, and it's been like that for years.
>LC actually seems smarter than most LN writers because he used a loli instead of some shitty generic MC.
He knew that, at some point, everyone would want to be the little girl
That classic Disney animation.
She was rotoscoped?
I don't think so, not sure. She was used as a model for Alice though.
guy took pictures of her naked
and it was perfectly ok in Victorian England
It's a story about a middle-aged drug addict trying to get into the pants of an underage girl.
If you know what the average otaku looks like, you can probably connect the dots.
Only reason I like Alice is because I have a size fetish and enjoy her thicc legs
Actually it's about mathematical allegories, but sure mate.
That might be the cause of the story being written, but it's not what it's about
Some isekai stories end with 'It was a dream' endings.
If I recall correctly the slime reincarnation thing is one.
That's only like 1/10 of the deal. It is that plus much other things, see what it is so great about all this?
camera lens, he was an early photographer as well
>isekai
>blonde loli
>pseudo-meido outfit
>lecherous old drug guy
Lewis Caroll was a true visionary ahead of his time.
And it is still a loli masterpiece even after all this. Truly a genius ahead of his time and most like likely ahead of our time as well.
One of us! One of us!
>Give her guns
That already exists.
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Is there anything Alice name hasn't been use on?
I wish the porn one wasn't so bittersweet at the end of the story.
He would be coming here.
Alice is cute loli
Japan loves cute lolis
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so yes. Yes is your answer
just because the thread in cripple is slow doesn't mean you bring it here, fuck you
You will have to be more specific user. There is a lot of porn based around Alice, and most of it is so shit that the creator would vomit with seeing only hags in them.
You take a good look at the pic you posted and tell me that's not a powerful bundle of fetishes.
>Is it simply because Alice is a qt loli
Yes. Cute clothes, cute face, cute antics.
>LC actually seems smarter than most LN writers because he used a loli instead of some shitty generic MC.
He also did a clever job with his work and wrote it better than any of them could ever hope.
>NTRing onii-chan.
That's not nice.
>loli wins in metaphysical way
please dont talk as if you know what you speak of knave
LC wouldve been the best kind of tripfag
wonder if he wouldve drawn pictures instead of taking lewd photos of lolis if he knew of the industry
What happened to that one author whose illustrations were shilled shamelessly on here and anons bought all the copies of the book? Has he done anything else lately?
He would have done both if possible but don't comment about his real life here and instead just talk about loli.
Also, he wasn't a drawfag, there was another guy in charge of the drawings.
he was truly one of us
>I-I'm not a lolicon officer, I swear!
kek
She made a The Wizard of Oz illustrated book that was mostly ignored over here because it was not Alice.
Pics? Dorothy isn't bad but she's definitely not as cute as Alice
Also does she have a Twitter or something I can follow?
this is how you create a waifu Sup Forums, this is what miyazaki is talking about. In order to be good you have to be grounded in reality. Carroll left his loli-alice-lust as a memento for the future generations and history remembers him fondly for it, can you do the same?
I wonder what little Liddell thought of LC.
>this man is nice but kind of creepy
>I guess he can appreciate how cute I am, though!
>implying she didnt call him nii-chan
>implying she didnt lust after his dick
Ironically in this case, his waifu was not his creation but rather the real little girl. His creation served as a love letter.
She probably didn't think badly of him.
>implying he didnt ditch 3dpd for his ideal 2d alice
That's adorable
The name of the artist is Kriss Sison. I don't know if he has done more or if he has twitter.
>The groom gave his wife a doll as a wedding gift