What is it about Miyazaki's works that make them so appealing to people...

What is it about Miyazaki's works that make them so appealing to people? Are they as good as everyone says or just praised because people watching them are unfamiliar with most anime?

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You answered your own question OP

They convey excitement and a sense of adventure really well.
His movie are pure.

Animation and Muh childhood adventure.

They are appealing to people because Disney tells everyone that they are.

Nonthreatening themes and good production values.

The only people I know that dislike his works are Anno fanboys/cultists.

Little to no CGI cancer

Anno fanboys love Miyazaki though because he is his mentor.

Ghibli was popular way before the Disney deal, champ.

He's popular worldwide because anglosphere critics keep pushing his works, it resonates with their idea of what's distinctly Japanese in Japanese animation. The anglosphere is the de-facto global culture, what's popular there eventually spreads all over the world. Miyazaki has cemented himself as "Japanese Animation" so all the Japan Foundation guys can do is keep pushing him too for good PR.

Same idea why Haruki Murakami is popular outside Japan and why Cannes film festival give lavish praise to poverty porn films from third world countries. It resonates with white people's idea of the foreign and exotic.

But Miyazaki is even more popular in his home country than he is out in the west.

I have to say that this seems plausible to me. I'm not from the anglosphere and after my parents saw Mononoke on tv, they were confused. Didn't really like it. As for myself, I don't like Miyazaki at all. Maybe Howl's Moving Castle for the comfy atmosphere and art.

Read his Nausicaa manga and then you'll finally understand what a genius he is and why he's so critically acclaimed.

It's literally one of the best manga of all time.

Few anime directors are also able to measure up. Only Kon, Oishii, Hosoda, Anno, Ikuhara, Anno, Junichi Sato and maybe Urobuchi are in his league.

>Howl's Moving Castle for the comfy atmosphere and art.

It's Joe Hisaishi's magic. Without that music the animation itself wouldn't feel half as good.

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>Urobuchi

Did you mean Shinbo? Urobuchi is a writer.

>Hosoda

I don't really care what other people think about him and his works, but Porco Rosso is my family's annual movie.
The only thing I didn't like about it was the ending felt kinda abrupt, but that was probably the point.

wait... was anime a mistake?

The new Miyazaki is cursed to repeat the footsteps of his predecessor.

That is something that only future historians will be able to conclude or not.

If it was, they will send back Terminators to prevent anime from being made.

The Moe ones that are meant to appeal to waifufag otaku? Yes.

No I meant Urobuchi.

Miyazaki's a writer too, hence why I brought up the Nausica manga.

>Are they as good as everyone says or just praised because people watching them are unfamiliar with most anime?

It's usually this, 90% of the time. Miyazaki cocksuckers think he's the best without looking at anyone else's shit.

Will they be cute Terminators?

That's an insult to Miyazaki, but then I remember he wrote Ponyo and Howl's and then the comparison is more sensible.

>Oishii

You mean Oshii?

>Urobuchi

Kill yourself.

Impossible to tell, because if the cute terminators succeed on their mission, they will cease to exist, because anime is cute, and with no more anime, there will be no more cute.
Unless they all come equipped with time paradox shields so that they won't erase themselves out.
But then, survivors of their attack will be inspired by their cuteness, and make anime anyway.

Conclusion: Anime cannot be prevented.

But everything he said is right.

that sounds plausible.

desu i don't really like ghibli's more recent movies. the older ones like porco rosso and nausicaa (ok not technically a ghibli movie but whatever) actually tried to convey a message. spirited away on the other hand felt more like 'japanese disney'. it is still a good movie though.

Sure, if you mean that Miyazaki is a terrible writer who loves reusing the same 2 or 3 tropes in all his movies.

Whatever you contrarians wanna say, Madoka was genuinely good and thought-provoking.

Madoka wasn't even Butcher's best work. It was good because of the atmosphere and art direction, not because of the TWEEST script.

Butcher's best are still Psycho-Pass and Saya no Uta. Doesn't make him exceptional at all though.

How's it feel to step outside of MAL for once?

>thought-provoking

Not really. Even idea of the ending was done before like Lain.

Again, contrarianfags. You just don't want to give Madoka the credit it deserves because it got popular and mainstream, hence why there's even a thread TRYING to bash Miyazaki in the first place.

Say what you will but Madoka is the first ever masterpiece and an anime to be remembered and recommended for generations to come in the last 10 years.

Miyazaki got lazy with his later works. Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service and Spirited Away were good, but the rest just felt really unoriginal and uninspired.

Howl's Moving Castle is garbage.

>Madoka is the first ever masterpiece

I said first ever masterpiece from the LAST 10 YEARS! Lern2read!

Once we got into the late 00's anime started stagnating and never had another masterpiece like it did during the 90's or even the early 00's. Madoka changed that.

>disliking anything popular makes you a contrarianfag

Too bad some Miyazaki's works were actually thought-provoking, unlike Madoka. Madoka was a lot better than your average anime series, but the story was cheesy at best. The pure cash grabbing movies later proved that as well.

>redditor's first bait

Do you think you live inside of a bubble?

Stop

>thought-provoking

Curious, have you ever read a book?

>Are they as good as everyone says
Not quite as good as everyone says; nothing can live up to the hype, and some of his movies are weaker than others. But they are pretty damn good movies.

Madoka was actually good because shaft gave it a exotic animation and good pace and art direction. The story was good, yes it is, but it never was a masterpiece in anime history nor even just among his works or anything like that.

Universal themes, exceptional directing and Joe Hisaishi.

But Takahata is better than all of them.

Plebs know nothing about Takahata.

Loli

Sup Forums hates on him too much, and he gets too much praise as well. Of course he can't live up to the hype, and even though most of his movies are good, he made some pretty bad stuff too.

The reason why he's good is that most of Miyazaki's movies evoke a sense of childlike wonder and adventure, the themes and characters are simple but endearing nonetheless

The music is more often than not spectacular as well. Tracks like youtube.com/watch?v=8XOV2L-eM38 or youtube.com/watch?v=229K5n_PRJA still send chills down my spine whenever I listen to them

For most people it's also the nostalgia glasses, I don't know if I'd like Nausicaa as much as I do if I hadn't watched it when I was a kid.

I like his movies.
Some are great.

But he is a hypocrite old man and did a lot of damage at the industry.

>hypocrite old man
Yeah for sure
I was only talking about the quality of his output, not the man himself.

I screencapped this a while ago, it's about Ghibli in general but I think it's a decent indicator of what the movies are worth

>screenshotting texts
>screenshots for ants
Are you "trolling"?

Who gives a fuck, I saved it for myself and can read it just fine

anyone who doesn't acknowledge him as a great creator is going through a very puerile special-snowflake, non-conformist stage of development which they should be embarrassed ever to find themselves and and which they hopefully they will grow out of very uickly but possibly never will.

>Nausicaa manga
To be honest I think his manga starts to fall apart towards the end because of his own rhetoric.

they target to normalfags

The scores are beautiful, the animation is godly and the people that made every single of these movies devoted their lives to animation. We're FAR away from Disney with it's full CG shitty movies, ugly commercial sequels etc.
Miyazaki doesn't whore his characters.

Help me, boys, I've watched Castle in the Sky dozens of times in 5 different languages and show no signs of stopping.

>pure

I think that that is a great way to put it. His best works are children's movies like Kiki's delivery service or Totoro.

Their animation is one of the best I have seen and something in the writing just really hits that sweet spot.

>Are they as good as everyone says or just praised because people watching them are unfamiliar with most anime?
It's a combination of the two. I remember a lot of the buzz around Princess Mononoke wasn't just the amazing animation but also the story and incredibly well written script. Lady Eboshi is still one of my favorite antagonists in film because of how how nuanced she is as a character. I often cite her as one of the best examples of an antagonist who isn't a villain.

They're well-doned. Speacially, well animated.

The oppposite. Only neo moefags, who also hate Anno and call him "hack", trying to put the meme shows in higher rank, because they hate Evangelion is popular and considered one of the best anime works.

Nope. --->

Why do people hate Howl's Moving Castle? It's the only Miyazaki movie that didn't bore me to tears.

>When graded for the story
Miyazaki is better then everyone else

>when graded for the animation
Makoto Shinkai is better than everyone else

Muh photorealism

Until recently, there hasn't been a single well animated Shinkai movie.

>and he gets too much praise as well
"Oh, no, he created great movies and people all over the world likes his movies. Somebody stop this madman."

They're inspiring and imaginative. Miyazaki's films have so much imagination and wonder put into them that they stir up ideas in you too. In Nausicaa alone there are so many iconic and memorable designs and images, like how Nausicaa flies on a glider. The reason why John Lasseter has such a huge boner for Ghibli movies is because Miyazaki pulls off easily what Pixar sinks millions of dollars into.

Thank you for being sane.

>5CPS

Not well animated. lol

they don't exclusively appeal to otaku. Other than the planes that is.

Miyazaki has done what no other animator or artist has done; he has made movies that are 100% him and his ideas, with an unparalleled visual aesthetic that is the most creative and whimsical in all of anime. His designs are unique and beautiful without going into Disney or nightmare fuel territory and are just amazing to look at. Are there other artsist who can do similar art? Sure, but who the hell among them has ever made consistently high-budget and beautifully animated movies like Miyazaki has? Yes, you can argue that others like Kon are similar, but Kon doesn't come close to Miyazaki when it comes to using animation to his advantage, and his style is not as whimsical.

Nothing Shinkai, Hosoda, or Kyoani have ever made has come close to surpassing Miyazaki's imagination.

>just praised because people watching them are unfamiliar with most anime?
If you watch "most of the anime" you'll start to appreciate Miyazaki's works even more. Not saying that they're 10/10, but they definitely have a lot of soul put into them, something that 90% of anime lacks

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>Makes Miyazaki Want to Return to Work

He's never gonna "retire", even when his dead.

You can't deny his skill as artist.
But I feel bad for other people. They will be forever in Miyazaki shadow because anime industry is so small and shitty. Two fuckin people as voice of industry? It's a joke.
>made great anime movie based on book
>it will be flop because of not epic big names on poster

>It's this faggot again

Are you that masochistic? Go watch more anime.

I don't see anything wrong with what he wrote. Miyazaki is a brilliant artist and designer and to deny that is to be a contrarian shit.

Kid call him "only one". It's pokemon battle.

As of now he's probably the "only one" in the anime industry that can do what he does. No one has managed to surpass him yet.

Yeah, yeah, sure. Fuck off.

So was this just because people like Miyazaki more than your directorfu?

Makoto Shinkai is the Kenny G of anime

And who has done better than him? Yamada? Shinkai? Hosoda? His shitty hack son? Don't make me laugh.

He draws ugly ape-faced characters with no SHADING like based Gundam

what?

Koichi Ohata > Hayao Miyazaki

Prove me wrong faggots.

>just praised because people watching them are unfamiliar with most anime?
The fact they are praised AS FILMS should trll you a lot.

Nice fedora.

I will never understand why Mononoke trash praised so hard. It's like shitty Hollywood B-movie. Nothing except of art is good in this garbage.

Your favorite director (and anyone else currently living in the anime industry) is shit compared to Miyazaki.

Deal with it.

crossboarder pls fuck off

I had an English teacher which just couldn't tell some words could have two meanings.

Do you know how she explained Kaguya Hime to me? A bamboo cutter finds a baby in the core of the bamboo, he (I don't want to use this word, sorry) literally lifts her, and her parents come and take her.

I knew about Kaguya hime before that, so I knew what exactly was going on, but what the fuck, how could the rest of my classmates eat that shit up?

And worst of all, she said it was a touching story after everything she said. Yes, I know that the guy raises her till she becomes an adult, and when her parents come to take her away, it is incredibly touching - but what the fuck was this bullshit?

Just lifting her up, and her parents coming immediately taking her back. How could that be touching?

fucking hell

How the fuck am I crossboarding? Stop being so jealous Kyoanus licker.

art was good though

tryharder

They are family friendly works that appeal to children while at the same time addressing adult subject matter and topics.

They typically have a solid plot that anyone can sit down and watch and nod. "Yeah, that's a plot."

The visuals are superior to most other animated works, making it easy for adults to watch, and interesting for children.

Look at Disney in comparison. Both follow extremely similar business models when it comes to their most successful works.

Put out high-quality entertainment that targets family audiences.

bringing Sup Forums shit here
Miyazaki films are not anime. They are cartoonshit from Japan.

It's anime kino. Nothing comes close to how pure it is.