Lots of anti mgtow shills .
Do they actually have any LEGIT reasons against mgtow?
>divorce courts
>marriage laws
>child support statistics
>homelessness demographics
>lack of male support systsems
>endless shaming to "man up" and suffer
Inb4
>mgtows are just virgins
>mgtows can't get laid losers
>do your duty as a man
>get a prenup
>nawalt
Anit-MGTOW is irrelevant. Male bodies belong to male persons. To claim otherwise is pure commie BS.
“My body my right”
MGTOW is stupid you need females to have kids
>yes goy become a wageslave and reproduce so you can raise another wageslave
Surrogates
Artificial wombs
Pump and dump
>not one anti mgtow thread
>lots of anti mgtow shills
>proceeds to make mgtow thread about anti mgtow shills
heh you’re the shill kike boy.
No one cares fuck off
Yes. You should be out there making the white race strong and creating a strong future for it.
Any mgtow is either a shill or misguided fool doing the work of the Zionists that want to see masculine white men fall from society.
Also saged
Divorced, mid 30s.
Total MGTOW.
Living alone is awesome.
>heh you’re the shill kike boy.
So not wanting children to suffer the propaganda and shit life of modern culture and serve the ZOG is kike shilling.
>get a house with a mortgage and spend money on woman who will divorce rape you, and children who will be told your ancestors are evil goy
Make it strong by paying alimony so Stacy can raise Tyrone’s big babies?
Hahahaha
GTFO shill faggot
>Surrogates
Need females willing to be surrogates
>Artificial wombs
Not happening for white men, just watch.
>Pump and dump
Get ready to be convicted for rape.
You should be out there making the white race strong and creating a strong future for it.
So what if other races go mgtow?
so do you only care about the white race?
If so that's your personal ethnic agenda which not eeryone shares
and white women are already brainwashed and lack values and accountability by kikery so producing with them is a to ones self. Am I responsible for fixing that too?
If so how does that benefit me? When a woman cant take your children and live out gimmedats and child support while teaching your children to hate their fathers and themselves
Your acronym makes me picture a machine gun that shoots antitank missiles. When I remember what it actually means, it makes me sad.
Surrogacy is modern extension of worlds oldest occupation
Artificial wombs will be commercial in 5-10 years
What is burner phone?
Kikes are applying division tactics and neocons zionists eat it up like retards.
Drink beer for me faggot.
MGTOW is fucking depressing to ponder from the perspective of men who have found decent women to settle down with.
If you’re a fat ugly fuck, go for it, but if not, it’s a dead end that’ll have you doing the same soul-searching when you reach 40 and realize you’ll be alone forever now that you’ve lost all confidence and social skills from being a man-child for 2 decades too long.
>Ignorges the white slavery of men
Masters and slaves unite! (((goy)))
>implying having 20 relationships with 20 vapid cunts will leave you better off
yes I need leftist females who fuck Tyrone and Muhammad while I´m working my ass off for them so she can have a good life and still take everything from my any second for no reason.
Have you made some children already? If not consider surrogacy
you´re not divorced yet.
>If you’re a fat ugly fuck, go for it, but if not, it’s a dead end that’ll have you doing the same soul-searching when you reach 40
those unnatractive men are already mgtow involuntarily, men who have muchh to offer and don't want the gynoentric system taking advantage of them have the choice.
the coice is to play a losing game, or don't play.
And who cares at 40 they would have avoided 20 years of alimony and child support and women at that age aren't nearly
you seem to live under the presumption me should risk their well being to no benefit so you can have soldiers for your hypothetical race war or to support a sick society.
why contribute to either?
Out of the shadows and into the streets!
MGTOW for POC!
you’re giving me emotion and feelings
throw some numbers, sources, links etc that back up your claim. add that to your next OP so it’s actually useful
otherwise shut the fuck up whiney bitch. you’re fun flag makes your posts even less worthy of a reply
>no one cares
>but i’ll reply to show how little no one cares
inbreeding makes your kind stupid right
>Artificial wombs will be commercial in 5-10 years
and fembots will be in 5-15 years, and in max. 20 years they will be affordable for the ordinary citizen when the price will drop because china will mass produce it.
They have a huge demand in artificial wombs and artificial women. And they don´t have the same morals we have.
Women are going to be extinct and rightful so.
>Do they actually have any LEGIT reasons against mgtow?
Honestly, the only legit reason is if someone is a chad and getting all the hot girls from Tinder. If you're Dan Blitzerian, then you don't need to be going your own way and you can live with a harem. But honestly, for the rest of us, this isn't a viable option.
MGTOW is just psyops to try to get redpilled people to not reproduce so that the ultra libs can go forward unopposed into the future.
Reproduce you fat faggots or don't waste anyone's time commenting on the state of affairs, you are irrelevant to humanity and history if you don't reproduce unless you make a massive massive massive scientific breakthrough.
Reproduce and raise good children with good morals.
Divorce is for the weak. Nothing in life worth doing is easy, marriage isn't easy, you have to actually put in effort. All arguments for MGTOW are shit.
This
Libs kill their own children, at least mgtows want children but can’t figure out how to make it happen
Reminder that all the anti-MGTOW are butthurt roasties
You’re the perfect example of being a product of your environment.
You aren’t ‘going your own way’ its the easiest path with the least resistance. Instead of walking into the forest and navigating you stick to the well lit cleared path. In reality you just don’t want to put in effort into relationships or surrendering some of your own needs for another. God forbid you continue down this path and look back and see a fool. I hope you younger anons don’t fall for this rubbish.
Roastie detected
>don’t rationally evaluate your options just blindly do the most risky thing available goy
>Divorce is for the weak
so 50% of mariages are weak
>marriage isn't easy,
no shit so why waste the effort for 0 gain.
>redpilled people to not reproduce
redpilled people wouln;t reproduce in this society and have oood reason
...
oh come on you fucking pussies just man up already
what is the deal with so many Australian and NZ mgtow's are your women really that bad??
MGTOW is an infantily ideology. It's no wonder that it's advocates are fuck-ugly losers. I'm sounding like a woman, but it's true. MGTOW is just another tool in the toolbox of subversion to stop whites from reproducing.
Getting children is a vital step for the continuation for the cycle of life. A child needs both a mother and a father. You are just one block in the genetic continuum, life doesn't end with your death.
Don't care, not interested.
Who will take care of Tyrone's baby?
>MGTOW is an infantily ideology
Yeah because making a rational decision based on facts and statistics if infantile
>fuck-ugly losers
If this were true you wouldn't care because fuck-ugly losers aren't going to get any pussy anyway. You know it's not true that's why you're trying to 'shame' MGTOW
>A child needs both a mother and a father.
Modern narcissistic women have negative parenting value. Think about that for a bit.
"The Office of National Statistics’ (ONS) most recent number crunch reveals that in 2011, the woman was the party granted (therefore initiating) the divorce in 66% of cases that year. It used to be an even higher share: 69% in 2001, and a whopping 72% at the start of the 1990s."
Source: American Law and Economics Review in 2000
"Moreover, in some of the states where no-fault divorce was introduced, over 70 percent of the divorce filings were by women. Among college-educated couples, the percentage of divorces initiated by wives is a whopping 90 percent."
>MGTOW is an infantily ideology. It's no wonder that it's advocates are fuck-ugly losers. I'm sounding like a woman, but it's true. MGTOW is just another tool in the toolbox of subversion to stop whites from reproducing.
Shaming tactics no real argument there
>Getting children is a vital step for the continuation for the cycle of life
Obviously, but as you can probably see and observe by the data issued from the court hearings and win/loss ratios, the "system" is absolutely in favor and biased towards women, so a divorce is a major financial risk for any sane man in CURRENT YEAR. It's simply walking into a slaughterhouse , and you may think you found the perfect 10/10 church girl etc... but every woman is a slut on a good day, it's very hard for men to trust women right now, also the expectations set by society make women desire something that is honestly not achievable by the average Antti. Don't you think it's a reasonable defense mechanism?
>A child needs both a mother and a father.
A father is more important in the upbringing of the child, a mother is preferable but not absolutely necessary.
>You are just one block in the genetic continuum, life doesn't end with your death.
Nobody claimed this, and some mgtow desire babies but between work and normal life it's not easy to tend to a kid without a woman being home. Surrogates are available mgtow does not proclaim to end life, just to opt out so things get a fixed, because remember that men don't need women to survive, it's the other way round.
based italian
Also let's not forget what AVERAGE means to women
>MGTOW is an infantily ideology.
>Posts a pic of Adolf Hitler who wasn't married until he was 56
shortly before killing himself he was full mgtow
>what is south america
>we don't need men
>we are stronk indapandannnttn wamynz
ops the road is falling apart who is gonna fix this?
ops my toilet isn't working eewww who is gonna fix this??
prove he made it to Argentina faggot and thats not just a conspiracy, some people claim hitler was a rothchild
jesus christ.
the one benefit of marriage for men, 1 a month.
That pic
>the one benefit of marriage for men, 1 a month.
you can put a $ value on it as well right?
A good romp is about $100, a shitty romp is about $50 give or take. I'm assuming these are shitty romps.
Can guarantee the woman does almost nothing around the house. So the value she's providing the man is $50 a month. Ima go out on a limb here and suggest even a lower class worker husband is providing well over $1000 a month in value to the wife.
So the deal is you give me $5 and I'll give you $100? No thank you.
201-07-13______No_______"No"
2014-07-13 ______No_______"No"
i'm too tired for this shit
Hey mgtow is cool, less competition for me.
saved thank you italybro
>Hey mgtow is cool, less competition for me.
This is the only sane response an unattached bluepill will make to MGTOW. Anti-mgtow are all roaties or already enslaved men.
have at it budd
it's all yours, here let me open a cold one for you
>worlds oldest occupation
which requires willing females
>Artificial wombs will be commercial in 5-10 years
Not for white men
>What is burner phone?
What is DNA?
t. shills
gets me every time
AND ANODDA ONE
>asking for sex
yeah it's not like back in the day where you just hit them in the head and had your little fun, men have become gentlemen, a bit too much
>MGTOW
If you can't find a single woman that respects you, maybe you're the problem, js. Sure women in general are shitty but so are men, have some damn standards for yourself and them. But again, it sure makes it easier for me when so many other white guys are just dropped out of the game.
Ah yes , France the country of non shaved pussies
>What is DNA?
If you use a fake name and never let her know your real address you're fine.
NEGATIVE PARENTING VALUE
HAHAHAHA
Another cold one opened for you american brothers.
Keep up the good work
But what if you are not interested in sex at all, are you really that retarded to do not understand
>how does it benefit me?
Individualist scum. How about you go add to your people's future, you pleasure-seeking animal?
I foresee in your not too distant future the following:
divorce rape followed by the modern slavery of alimony
Enjoy brother
You're really are rational for not having children because of a study said you will divorce with a 50% chance. Bright. Also your divorce chance is controlled by a RNG and is completely beyond your control. Decent women don't turn into shit for no reason.
>If this were true you wouldn't care because fuck-ugly losers aren't going to get any pussy anyway.
This was merely an observation. I understand why someone with extremely low confidence might want to convince himself that his lack of gf is his decision.
>Modern narcissistic women
There are millions of potential women and you think you're not going to find a good enough one? If MGTOW's cared about the nature of women, they would advocate traditionalism and traditional values.
Why don't you move to a country with better divorce laws then if it's such a big deal?
Marriage might end up in divorce, but it's a shit attitude to live by if risks can't be tolerated. A friend might stab you in the back, your children might die in a car-accident one day. There's still reasons to have friends and children.
i see a Tyrone baby mama
> do they have legit reasons
A dick and an ounce of aspiration would be a good reason don’t you think?
>You're really are rational for not having children because of a study said you will divorce with a 50% chance. Bright. Also your divorce chance is controlled by a RNG and is completely beyond your control. Decent women don't turn into shit for no reason.
Who said I'm not having children retard?
Modern women are an RNG. I've seen enough of them both in my own life and in the lives of others to realize this. I feel sorry for men who don't.
Oh shit yeah sorry I forgot to consider that 1% of the population. Wait, are eunuchs and monks considered mgtow?
If I was a nigger I would go my own way, but only because I really want to live as a Gay Nigger from Outer Space IRL
it attracts some real weirdos but the arguments are irrefutable. Thank you OP for trying to actually save men from fucking their lives up
>tfw this isn't even shocking anymore.
Those fucking ghetto tats with hello kitty; women confirmed, mentally ill children
I want to have and a family.
>Why don't you move to a country with better divorce laws then if it's such a big deal?
Aside from the monetary issue that can ruin me financially my second pressing matter is that the divorce will probably also ruin me in a much deeper way, the most precious thing we have on this earth is TIME and wasting it one someone that can decide on a whim to call it quits is just frustrating and yes i'm implying the woman is gonna call it quits because the probability is much higher.
>Marriage might end up in divorce, but it's a shit attitude to live by if risks can't be tolerated.
I don't tolerate outright risk, i make calculated risks, i evaluate my chances and see what happens if i end up with the short end of the stick, and decide if that's still a good situation for me to be in, then i might take the risk.
>A friend might stab you in the back
Very unlikely i broke bread and wine with him
>your children might die in a car-accident one day.
Unlikely cars nowadays have very high standard requirements in crashes , also old volvos are pretty safe and full of airbags, i would need to get hit sideways by a speeding truck for the kids to die, you know like in the movies.
>There's still reasons to have friends and children.
Of course there is, it's just that i can't bring myself to make a kid bring him into this world (which is nearing a nuclear war) and then have him live with his mom while he resents me, it's another life, there's too much on the table, i don't need a woman, what i need is a sexbot that can cook and clean. #misogynist
>and
fuck this phoneposting. My point stands still, I want to have my own children, have a wife.
confirmed
Even if you get married if you're below 3 on this scale your wife will get fat and go dead bedroom with starfish sex once a year, nobody seems to talk about it, and when people post that screencap of "actually 86% of men have sex" it's statistics that are based on "did you have sex once within the last year". Show me the % of marriages with couples having sex 3x a week and you'll see why it's a scam.
if we could overturn the fucking marriage rape law then I might even be down for marriage
but fuck having sex once a month I can get that without the deadweight
>Artificial wombs will be commercial in 5-10 years
There is not one group working on a human artificial womb on Earth.
You cannot say something like this with conviction.
>. A friend might stab you in the back,
yea but they don't have my financial support as a reason to do it
Try making a sensible decision when choosing a mate. Its really not difficult
learningenglish.voanews.com
>The researchers are working at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia in Pennsylvania.
>Try making a sensible decision when choosing a mate. Its really not difficult
That's exactly what MGTOWs are doing.
>If you can't find a single woman that respects you, maybe you're the problem
women decieve men all the time,
>Sure women in general are shitty but so are men
men don't need women to support them
>have some damn standards for yourself and them.
my standards cannot be met by whats available and I refuse to lower them.
>it sure makes it easier for me when so many other white guys are just dropped out of the game.
have fun, and don't say we didn't warn you.
You sound like you belong on /r9k/.
Are any other races choosing this path or is it a vastly white phenomenon?
There is no "rational decision" here, the odds of your wife running into someone she gauges to be better than you, deciding to cheat, and then taking half your shit is completely up to random chance. Women do not have an evolutionary incentive to be loyal, you will not find a woman that is any more loyal than the resources she's getting.
or when the draft is brought up and they all go "this is not the equality I wanted" or "I'll be a stay-at-home-mom instead"
MGTOW is bullshit because you still need women. The only reason you can even go "MGTOW" is because of the mas amount of internet porn.