Macross Delta (マクロスΔ)

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Is Mirage going to dance too?

she is going to

Is this the birth of new epic meme?

Checklist:

- Freyja's song must surpass Mikumo or reach same level.
- Romance ending Hayate x Mirage.
- Freyja MUST survive AND be happy loved by the entire galaxy.
- Mikumo must survive and legally be adopted by Freyja
- Windermere short life fixed using the ruins power.
- Kaname dumping Arad and confessing to Messer 's grave.
- Roid dead by Keith's hand or life sentence.
- Isamu's cameo because Myung is lady M
- Berger death as painful as possible.

Simple requirements for Delta's legacy to be secured for 7+ years until the next series.
For once, let everyone win, no KIA/MIA/bittersweet endings like Frontier or Zero please Kawamori, the fans will reward you.

no tragedy end like Mirage on last scene going to Hayate's mother to inform of his death, or taking care of a fully VAR'd Hayate please no

>IP count didn't increase
>It's the same retarded shitposter reposting his "memes" in every thread

Mirage: Hayate, formation Planet Dance!

Well shit, there's dead generals for dead show.

Right now if they don't tell me who Lady M is that alone will ruin Delta for me. They've built her up so much at this point that to not have her show up or even tell us who she really will piss me off to no end.

It's Minmay.

>They've built her up so much at this point
By mentioning her name 4 or 5 times?
I can't understand why anyone would care about her. Her identity really doesn't make any difference. There are more important questions like whose clone Mikumo is (and what her role was) or why Immeldad dropped the bomb.

How many more deathflags will Hayate get this week?

At least Mr. Birler from Frontier is relevant compared to lady M. Both are founders of PMC with a personal goal to achieve; Both are mentioned several times in the show, but the only thing different is Mr. Birler was introduced and none on lady M. Mr. Birler's intentions is known and serves as a plot device whereas lady M is just something hanging around the show expecting audience to guess her identity and determine whether her intentions and affiations with the NUNS is relevant to the plot.

What if the failed experiment that the CIA mentioned has something to do with Lady M and the origins of Mikumo? Mind you that almost all researchers present in the Macross universe are shady as fuck with shenanigans under their sleeves.

But Mirage taking care of a sick bed VAR'd Hayate is a legit great ending.

>Mr. Birler's intentions is known and serves as a plot device
He was completely irrelveant for the plot. President, Leon and Grace wanted Frontier fleet to get to Vajra planet and those 3 were already moving the plot to its final encounter with Varja Queen. There was no point in introducing Mr.Birler who had exactly same goal, but for a different reason. He existed in Frontier just to make Minmay/Megaroad-01 reference. They even dropped him from movies.
Lady M is just nostalgiawank character too.

>failed experiment that the CIA mentioned
You mean NUNS in episode 14? It was failed operation, not experiment. Most likely it is something related to Immeldad. I think there is just no time for "NUNS experiments" plot development.

Have some Freyja to start off your weekend.

And some Freyjafag Hayate. I will never look at Hayate the same after reading the novel translation of the first chapter

Need to find that chapter then. Did someone link it in earlier threads? Didnt follow macross threads for a while.

Literally previous thread (and one before that).
gubabablog.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/macross-delta-vol-1-chapter-1.pdf

Though anons already spotted one translation mistake. In the 2nd to last sentence it says that mirage was "terribly beautiful", but original says "terribly ugly and literally who".

gubabablog.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/macross-delta-vol-1-chapter-1.pdf

Thank you, I was just about to dig old threads. Hopefully there will be full novel translation.

>Though anons already spotted one translation mistake. In the 2nd to last sentence it says that mirage was "terribly beautiful", but original says "terribly ugly and literally who".
[CITATION NEED]

>In the 2nd to last sentence it says that mirage was "terribly beautiful", but original says "terribly ugly and literally who".

Ah, Frejyafags, never change. I'm looking forward to your ultimate defeat.

Pilots and their singers.

UTA WA _________!!

HEIKI

Delete this picture.

>UTA WA _________!!
Himesama dakko

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When will Ernest sing "Watashi no kare wa pilot?"

Those are some shitty pairings

They're the same pairings from the show. Though if you meant shitty in terms of development, then yeah, only two of the couples work well.

It's pilot-singer pairing, I don't know why but I really like Mirage-Makina pairing.

I don't know but I feel like this scene need both Freyja and Mirage.

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I wonder how they would alter that scene from Episode 22, the author could make that scene in favor one of the girls instead of that triangle crap from the anime. He could go something like:

>but suddenly the song began to sound different, I felt all sparkly inside again, and then I could feel Freyja's warm presence once again

or

>but then I hear an angelic voice calling out to me, and there I see Mirage, in tears, embracing me

Your pick, boys.

He's dropped from the film because the film has a different plot. Kaifun (made a cameo) and Kamzin are also dropped from DYRL, and Dornkirk was dropped from A Girl in Gaea. That doesn't make them irrelevant to their respective series.

I already explained why Mr.Birler as a character was completely irrelevant for the plot of Frontier. Yet you completely ignored it. I didn't expect anything else from tripfaggot.

hayate x mikumo otp

I love fanarts of HayaFre with kids bc it means they did the doodly do

Would Freyja still call him Hayate or Hayate-senpai?

Cat husbando and cat waifu.

Seems like the whole pilot/singer thing is some sort of vestige of an older concept of the show that still hadn't been completely removed by the point that they started work on 0.89. It's pretty much completely absent from every other episode except for the relationships between Kaname & Messer and Freyja & Hayate.

>suddenly the shrill cacophony broke and my mind began to clear. I looked down from my VF to see what remained of Freyja, split asunder by the very bullets her vile song had forced me to fire in unbridled frenzy. I could rest peacefully now knowing her tainted words could no longer control me and I could find comfort in the loving embrace of Chuck.

Is he non-essential to the main plot? Yes. Is he irrelevant, not really unless we're going on the basis that only the main plot is what matters. Birler brings about an opposing motivation to wanting to get the Vajra and their ability to fold without worrying about fold faults. His views also serve as a counter to Alto's view that the galaxy is too small for multiple people. Ultimately his purpose is to bring another perspective to the Vajra question as well as the issue of galactic expansion. And a character who brings in a different perspective isn't irrelevant as that character helps to open dialogue about the themes of the story.

Back when Chuck actually got character development HayaChuck wouldn't have been such a bad pairing... Not that there was any sexual tension there, but they were pretty good bros which is a good first step.

And Keith and Heinz. They share that same pilot/idol thing too, except their relationship is set up to improve by the end.

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>Birler brings about an opposing motivation to wanting to get the Vajra
It's not opposing to anything, it's 4th motivation after president's, Leon's and Grace's. It's absolutely irrelevant. And ultimately it's the same shit as president's and partially Leon's goal - kill Varja for the benefits of humans. It's not another perspective, it's absolutely identical to Leon's. That's why they both revealed Alto that Varja are not actually aggressors, but they need to be destroyed anyway. Bilrer and Leon had shared views on Varja.

>His views also serve as a counter to Alto's view that the galaxy is too small for multiple people.
And this is some plain bullshit, Alto never had such views. You're just retarded frontierfag and nothing else.

It is an opposing view. Leon's goal is to set himself as the ruler of the galaxy using the Vajia. Grace's goal is to mind control everyone through implants. Birler's goal is benign. He's trying to connect a galaxy that's too disconnected.

>Alto never had such views
So you missed episode 12 and the second half of the series where Alto decides to go full exterminate bugs.

>I heard my mom calling for me and I wanted to tell her to fuck off, but then a voice, like my dad's, pulled me from trance. I MISS YOU DAD.

Sasuga Kawamori. Hayate's daddy complex is stronk

>He's trying to connect a galaxy that's too disconnected.
Wasn't this just an excuse and his real endgame was to use that to find Minmay?

Well I don't know about you guys, but I'm having the time of my life laughing about Hayate's daddy complex.

I think it's pretty original it's muh dad when is always muh mom.

Can't stop imagining him and Freyja doing it on his dad's VF-22 while she's wearing his old pilot uniform.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, and you could argue that Minmay going missing was what shaped that viewpoint for Birler.

So why did you omit president? He wanted to find home for 5 million people on board of Frontier fleet. He wanted to kill Vajra for benefits of humans. And that was secondary goal of Leon too (after obtaining power, obviously).

>So you missed episode 12 and the second half of the series where Alto decides to go full exterminate bugs.
>galaxy is too small for multiple people
>Vajra
>people
You're retarded. And Bilrer's view wasn't counter to that anyway since Bilrer wanted to exterminate all Vajra too. The opposite of that would be Ranka's view that humans and Vajra can peacefully co-exist together.

Seriously, you just stupid Frontier fanboy who thinks he needs to defend his fav anime even when no one attacks it. It's not surprising that a character with less than 3 minutes of screen time in 25 episode anime is irrelevant for plot and main character development. But he made possible a subtle reference to SDF/DYRL so it's not like he was completely pointless in anime.

Bump this shit

So if Alto had a mommy comples and Hayate has a daddy complex, will the next MC have a sister/brother complex now?

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>waiting 7 days for a new episode again and again

Heiki~

Hayate and Freyja should have a daughter. Next Macross could have her as the MC, as a pilot who sings as she fights. She gets her pilot genes from Hayate and her song genes from Freyja.

And she'd inherit her parents abilities to ride the wind. Also she'd use her songs to boost her own pilot abilities.

>Freyja
>winning

Greatest meme ever

>using a meme to call something else a meme

Amazing

fucking kek

>I mean, dose tiddies...

Now I want pie. I'm so hungry, senpais

>So why did you omit president?
Because the President never makes his argument known to the main cast with the exception of at most Catherine. With that said, Birler and the President's goals aren't ultimately the same.

>Vajra
>people
You're being pedantic. The "people" doesn't have to refer to humanoids. The Vajra are a race. Alto, takes on the view after the events on Gallia 4 that the galaxy isn't big enough for different races to co-exist.

While Ranka holds a counter viewpoint on human Vajra relationship, Birler presents a counter viewpoint on the possibilities of using Vajra fold quartz.

Also, Frontier isn't even my favourite Macross series.

>With that said, Birler and the President's goals aren't ultimately the same.
But they are completely the same in terms of plot and character motivation/development. It doesn't matter if Varja should be killed to get their planet, unlock instant fold travels or anything else. It's the same trope of exterminating other species for the benefit of humans.

>Birler presents a counter viewpoint on the possibilities of using Vajra fold quartz.
Also in episode 23 it was explicitly stated that both Leon and Bilrer has the same goal of getting fold quartz from Varja. They both needed it to unlock new form of instant space travel. One wanted to get money and power with it, other wanted to find his waifu, but it doesn't change a damn thing.

I don't think there is anything to discuss if you can't understand such simple idea.

Also I can't imagine anyone else except you to use word "people" for Varja. And again Bilrer's view wasn't counter to Alto's since Bilrer wanted to exterminate all Vajra too.

Berger Stone is best idol, would buy weapons and anime figures from him.

Actually, he and Mirage are the only characters saving Delta from being boring as shit

mikumo isn't a clone

cloning is illegal in the macross universe

>cloning is illegal in the macross universe
You just went full retard.

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A world without...

FREYJA

Bumping this shit

Fuck off.
There'll be a new thread when the episode airs.

Just rewatched the first few episode, those were so good and fun compared to the few latest episodes because it turns from Macross Delta to Freyja Delta.

I miss ikenai borderline and fun threads we had.

What went wrong?

>Implying Freyja isn't fun

>fun
She's the new Ranka

>calling Freyja Ranka 2.0 meme

You must be a miragefag

You just went full retard, user.

>What went wrong?
these

>What went wrong?
People got used to the same topics, discussions and shitposting.

Also making 2nd cour when they didn't even plan to do it and when they clearly had not enough ideas for another 13 episodes.
I re-watched few episodes too and I noticed how difference is huge. It's not only pacing, it feels like first 13 episodes are more polished and detailed. On top of plot and action they have a lot more character interactions, scenery porn and better world building. Like for example how much did they show us interiors of their Island class ship? They are living on it for 8 episodes yet it had less scenery than a cat planet after a single episode 7.

Hopefully we will get another Frontier treatment with 2 movies. One retelling first 13 episodes of Delta with improved animation and battles and 2nd movie with complete different and improved story.

Did Japan draw any Ernest/Gramia porn? I want ahegao Gramia.

You don't have to be a Mirage-fag to see that Freyja shares a lot of traits with Ranka.

Imo Mirage is more like Ranka. Insecure, mopey, meltran, interacts less with MC than best girl, afraid to be romantic, etc. Except Mirage is worse, not because she's a bad character, but because she's halfassed.

Macross Delta was originally pushed on the idea of two star crossed romantics going full CUHRAZY and shocking everyone with their CUHRAZY antics. Now that the antics have stopped and turned fully to melodrama and half assed politics (with a tinge of "lets all hate the central government because UN Spacy is just like the Japanese parliamentary system", the series has mostly sucked.

Having the knights curbstomp everything in five minutes and a writer softban on any of them dying doesn't help, either.

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53 years old and she still poses like a teenager.

THIS FUCKING THIS, Slow pacing and shitty melodrama killed the show.

>Bilrer wanted to exterminate all Vajra too.
Lol No or he wouldn't have warned Jeffrey about the nationalization and let him go pirate to save Frontier from itself. Warning the NUN of Leon and Macross Galaxy's plots.

What Bilrer wants is the unification of the Children of the Protoculture. Not through force like what Leon and Grace is thinking but through advancement of communications and transportation. That way it would be easier to find what happened to Minmay. Yeah he is a big fan.

>What Bilrer wants is the unification of the Children of the Protoculture. Not through force like what Leon and Grace is thinking but through advancement of communications and transportation.

Apparently thats a hippie pipedream since Delta establishes that there are colonies and protoculture worlds at war with each other and with the UN government. This is only the beginning of star systems taking the path of galactic conquest, ensuring the eventual destruction of the Protoculture races (again).

Good. Protoculture races don't deserve to live, they are retarded warmongers, just like their parents.

Bumping the shit out of this crap

Please stop compairing Delta with Frontier.

>macross plus came out in 1995
>kawamori predicted the rise of Miku which was in 2007
>assuming he is right yet again the age of bio waifus will begin in 2028
GET HYPE

I want Mirage to sing Delta's OP1 badly like how Gamlin did with Seventh Moon.

Mikumo slaps whiny bitches into IDOLS OF DESTINY

It's okay to let the thread die user.