Is kava degenerate Sup Forums i know weed is and booze is but how about kava its anti pharma...

Is kava degenerate Sup Forums i know weed is and booze is but how about kava its anti pharma, AND i just cant stop taking these kava pill i hope i dont die

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bumping this because i have always been curious but i don't know any normies who have tried it

seems like a basically safe version of booze the liver damage was a big meme which pretty much destroyed any chance of it taking off in the west it was 50 in 100 million people affected by liver problems

I take kava pills every now and then if some cunts wind me up at work. I bought some powder of some Tongans once and made a proper brew. It tastes absolutely disgusting and didn't really have that much of an effect but I probably didn't drink enough of it. Tbh given the price, taste and difficulty making it it rather just have a spliff. The pills are good though if you are stressed out a bit

you need a good strain and a decent amount to feel effects apparently

Gives you liver failure after like 4 sips. All the coconuts die from it

thats fake, paracetamol is statistically far more dangerous

Ok keep sippin that dirt water and see what happens

The Tongans at work tell me all the old guys back home that drink it every day have fucked up skin

that's a side effect of abusing it but its reversible if you stop drinking it

ssri drugs are more dangerous , nigger

I have no idea wtf you guys are talking about, but you have my attention.
What is kava?
What does it do to you?
Why is it used?
What are the side effects?
Is it illegal or unsafe in anyway?
What does it cost?

Judging from comments, it tastes loke shit so I am unlikely to try it, but I like to be informed.
Ill prob google it...but I am not sire I care enough

Is that somekind of horse sperm people sell to women so they can smear it on their face for skin health reasons?

>i know weed is and booze is
>AND i just cant stop taking these kava pill
Why are weed and alcohol degenerate? Because people say stuff like "I just can't stop smoking/drinking". So if they are degenerate, you have yourself demonstrated kava is too.

its nigger sips of my ancestors and you will show it some fucking respest

yeah but i take it relax those other people take it to get a little buzz

Don't know how good the info is, but I couldn't help but be compelled to share since I coincidentally stumbled upon this last night
>nootriment.com/category/mood-enhancers/anti-anxiety/
Looks like there may be links to legit studies in there, so probably decent info like the Kratom community.

Tastes funny and looks worse.
Takes heaps to do anything.
I wasn't committed enough to keep drinking when it was offer.

don't take kava tinctures extracted with alcohol. the alcohol will extract additional alkaloids which are bad for the liver. the kind you want is called CO2 extracted Kava. It's a great way to kick alcohol and is very helpful for anxiety. It looks like solid yellow coconut oil. dip the end of a toothpick in it and let it sit in your mouth for a while.

kratom doesn't do shit. kava is great, love it.

It sucks, your mouth goes slightly numb (topical anesthesia) and then it feels like you had a couple shots of whiskey but 30 minutes later the buzz is gone and you have a headache

drinking gives me a headache when it wears off.. to each their own.

that's because you're a leaf

Kava tastes horrible and the effects are minimal, you're not missing out.

>what is kava
it's a root
>what does it do to you
it mellows you out. i would compare it to melatonin with a light alcohol buzz
>why is it used
ceremonial purposes, relaxant, and for recreation.
>what are the side effects
if you drink enough you can get a hangover-like effect. also i've heard that it fucks up your skin over long periods of use.
>is it illegal or unsafe?
it's legal but i'm not sure how unsafe it is

also, it tastes like shit if it isn't cleaned well enough. you could also mask the taste with coconut water if you wanted.

I went to a kava bar a couple of times and brought some home. It's a rather mild high and anxiolytic. You sort of get used to the "dirt" taste, and numbing experienced in your mouth is pleasant. It was interesting to try a couple of years ago, but I haven't been strongly compelled to do it again. Not that think there is much wrong with it. It is probably better for socialization than alcohol or weed.

Thanks for the info.
I am not going to try it. I will stick with my top shelf Tequilla.

To OP: it doesnt sound degenerate. It sounds hipsterish though, like meme tier means of catching a buzz. If you are at home, enjoy it. But if you are going out with friends or something, leave it at home and dont bring it up in conversation....doing so will make you sound loke a fag.

The way it's taken traditionally is not degenerate. Sit around with the lads and sing songs and talk shit, and whoever sits by the bowl is in charge of passing it out to everyone, so you have someone else moderating how much you take. It's not very strong and no hangover. Just a mild sedative.

>kratom doesn't do shit.
For you.
Legitimately, some people have something weird going on with their opioid receptors; even actual opiates don't work correctly/at all sometimes. There's also those that lack certain enzymes for compounds to become pharmacologically active in the body.

What I've eventually discovered for myself (Kratom, Kava, Caffeine, Pseudophedrine, etc aside) is if you get your body the right nutrients and supplements, eat and drink cleanly, you reduce your cerebral(and systemic) inflammation.
>This kills the Anxiety and Depression

this desu. i had a fucking great time with my cousins around a kava bowl and some live music. definitely wouldn't be the same with alcohol or weed.

I don't think it has moved much beyond the ethnic groups that traditionally consume it. Anyway, at the kava bar I went to, it was mostly old Polynesian men, and a few young couples of that background.

Alcohol is a lot stronger aye, you can pound bowls of kava all night and just get talkative and eventually sleepy. I stayed a while in a tongan marines camp and they were on it every night

Never noticed euphoria but it worked amazingly well for adhd

>effects are minimal

Breh.. I don't think you took the same shit I did.

I didn't take it in pill form though, I made a disgusting drink mixture and chugged it down but my entire body went numb. It was really similar to opiates but I hear it can cause baldness so I stopped taking it

>can't stop taking these
Addiction is always degenerate. Drinking in moderation would be less degenerate than addiction to literally anything.

>living in a soulless nihilistic consumerist culture
>surprised that he feels like his life lacks purpose or meaning
>takes drugs to fill that void, yet hasn't realized that drugs won't do the trick either

When will you realize that only life in a socialist society run by a Communist party will fill that void deep inside you - the fundamentally human desire to feel part of something greater than yourself.

Should i join the commies in Melbourne?
remember when everyone used to hate the commies

g-guys i just felt a litte feel in my liver
AWWWW FUCK

>Drinking in moderation

But can you expect people to take something so addictive as alcohol on the regular and not get addicted to some extent. It's just socially acceptable like caffeine or an old bloke with dodgy knees who relies on his morphine pills to get out and work in his garden.

kava does fuck all. I got the fuck tons of it and cooked it up exactly how my boonga coworker told me to. It tastes like shitty gloopy mud water and has little sedative effect.

maybe it only affects black people, the traditional drinkers of it

I bought a bag of ground root from Vanuatu and kneaded it into water until I got that disgusting chocolate milk looking drink. Got a numb mouth and a mild drunken feeling. Kratom has had much stronger opiate like effects and euphoria for me, and doesn't taste nearly as bad even if it is a bit bitter.

yeah your supposed to build up a positive tolerance to it over a few weeks to get the best effect. (i.e. gets stronger the more you drink it).

Did have a good crack at it. but the effects were meh tier.

If you want to get fucked up easy just drink a bottle of robotusin dry cough kids

this shit is great
if you haven't been to fiji and spent hours imbibing this shit I feel bad for you
feels like you're running in space when you walk down the road after a kava session

>imbibing
Ok from the replies it seem you either get decent effects or literally nothing

your daily reminder that under the nazis drug policy was non-existant and that the british empire was the first country on earth to insititute drug prohibition in 1918 when they banned cannabis to protect egyptian cotton farmers. yes they had anti-smoking propaganda, no one gave a shit about it. the general attitude among the nazis was "who are we to deny the working man his right to relax after a hard day of making germany great?

daily reminder that drugs have been legal in europe since prehistory and that drug prohibition neatly coincides with the rise of international jewry.

Just because they do something on those islands does not mean it is safe. They also chew betal nut which is incredibly bad for the mouth the way they take it.
Be careful with kava if you have liver issues and never take it with alcohol or acetomenaphen (tylenol)

Tried it.

Like a whole body numbing sensation.
Not bad. But there's a 2kg restriction in bringing it onto Australia

Theanine nootropics would have a similar stress reduction. Also Chinese white Dragon tea ($45 for 200g) has natural theanine which is far superior to the synthetic stuff.