But don't we want druggies to die????

But don't we want druggies to die????

what's his game here?

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They need to get jobs. They're supposed to replace all the Mexicans he's deporting.

Crackheads = voters

Subsidised health care + drugs = economic disaster.
Welcome to Socialism. Enjoy your eternal stay.

You never hear about opioids, you only hear about crack, cocaine, meth and heroine.

No we don’t want druggies dead you fucking retard. And who the fuck is we? Trump supporters? Lol fuck outta here redneck

We don't want people to be druggies anymore you dense fuck
Big pharma pushes painkillers on fucking everyone and milks poor whites for cash. They get addicted from what the doctors gave them and then chase pills until they overdose. Opioid addiction doesn't happen exclusively to degenerates. A lot of normal people in bad circumstances get drawn into it. Have some fucking compassion for your countrymen, Goddamn. For self-proclaimed nationalists, many of you have no love of country.

legalize

Heroin is an opioid

we really just need to mix carfentanyl with the dope supply and let them all die

Holy shit you’re so knowledgeable. Teach us more you fucking retard.

Covert border enforcement.

If that were true we wouldn't have rehab.

Give them a deal so sweet that any druggie who reject them would draw the ire of the people, making the more inclined to think maybe killing druggies might be the best way to do it.

I'm sure this had nothing to do with anything.

The majority of opioid abusers are nonhispanic whites. Nearly 100 whites dying from opioid a day.

It's just another organ of white genocide. It must be stopped.

They are good boys. Just got caught up in the wrong stuff. They need Jesus. They need factory jobs. God Bless America ok.

heroine literally comes from opium

The end game is that all the opioid addiction clinics are funded by tax dollars, they use those tax dollars to buy methadone from big pharma. Sell them the heroin, profit, sell them the methadone, profit. Trump is a faggot shill and you're letting him destroy your people. Good going faggots.

Heroin doesn't come from opium, opium contains like 20 alkaloids but the most important ones are morphine, codeine and thebaine.
Heroin is a semi-synthetic opioid, which means that it's synthesized using an existing opiate (morphine in this case). All pharmaceutical opioids except methadone and fentanyl require an opiate in the synthesis.

Heroin's synthesis is essentially mixing pure morphine with heated acetic anhydride, It's a very simple process that people can (and do) make themselves at home.

More people die of prescribed pain killers vs cocaine and herion combined you fucking swedish retard

And far more people die from alcohol and tobacco than opioids.

>natural selection is white genocide

Get a grip losers.

>think of all the leftists who will intentionally take opioids and how many will die or become horribly addicted

This can only be good.

Thank Big Pharma for the incredibly powerful opiates prescribed for minor back pain

>But don't we want druggies to die????
Don't be a retarded nigger. An enormous number of opioid addicts are white. Totally normal, decent white people. They didn't become addicted by partying and taking every kind of pill, they got addicted by being prescribed pain killers by a doctor. A doctor that isn't responsible for any follow up to check on the patient. A doctor that gets kick backs from drug companies. A doctor that has no vested interest in the well being of his patients whatsoever.

These drug companies were ramping up production of pain killers and sending them to the poorest white rural areas in America. This didn't all happen by accident, it was planned.

>A doctor that isn't responsible for any follow up to check on the patient.
It's federal law that a patient getting prescribed narcotic painkillers has to see their doctor at least once a month. Opioid prescriptions, even for people with chronic pain, never have any refills on them. You HAVE to see the doctor to get a new prescription.

I've had a bunch of people I know die of overdose. Almost every one of them was a productive member of society. The ones who weren't, were up until about a year prior.

The methed out crack head living in a slum apartment is such a tiny percentage of users. If you work for a large conoany, odds are you deal with a few addicts on a regular basis. Doesn't matter if it's white collar or blue collar.

And most of the users will probably continue to be productive. Only instead of putting the money back into the legal economy, they'll turn to an illegal drug at some point when they can't get their legal opioid from their doctor or friend, etc.

Fixing addiction and poverty will make America great again

True, but you're often over prescribed your monthly amount. You can get a 3 month amount too, if you have the follow ups scheduled (or at least could pretty recently)

You know how that works in reality?
>show up at doctors office
>nurse takes vitals
>talk to doctor for 5 minutes
>doctor gives a refill
There is no real after care. This is all icing on the cake considering that opioids don't actually deal with pain better than two tylenol and two ibuprofen. Doctors aren't responsible for their patients. When someone who has been on an opioid has their prescription run out they're not given any real support either.

This is pharma kikes and unscrupulous doctors intentionally destroying people for money.

t. drug addict

yes user, please fix. we'll just take some of your monies and give to my friends to fix this problem that they definitely didn't create themselves. they're just trying to help.

I've been in pain management for 11 years at multiple different doctors and never had an experience like either of these.

>But don't we want druggies to die????

I've seen good people get addicted to opioids for no fucking reason. They didn't need those kinds of pain killers and ended up getting hooked on something they never should have been given in the first place.

Are you sure about that? People that get addicted to prescription painkillers eventually turn to heroin. Heroin on the street varies wildly in dosage/purity, so they end up overdosing

Prescription drug abuse is significantly higher than illicit drug use, and overdose from prescription drugs is higher than illicit drugs.

You've never heard of oxycontin/oxycodone?
Also, as user said, heroin is basically an opioid.
And a heroine is a female hero, btw.

>There is no real after care. This is all icing on the cake considering that opioids don't actually deal with pain better than two tylenol and two ibuprofen.
Hey look everyone, someone who has never been in enough pain to warrant opioid pain killers and also someone who doesn't have a medical degree.

>heroin is basically an opioid.
Heroin isn't basically an opioid, it's an opioid by definition.
The term "opioid" means that it's a drug that acts on your opiate receptors in your brain (which are broken down into 3 subsets, mu , kappa and delta). Heroin is what's known as a semi-synthetic opioid (like most pharmaceuticals) which means it's an opioid that is synthesized from an opiate (a naturally occurring alkaloid in p. somniferum, which are morphine, codeine and thebaine)

>True, but you're often over prescribed your monthly amount. You can get a 3 month amount too, if you have the follow ups scheduled (or at least could pretty recently).
Wrong. It's been a while since they changed it to where you cannot get more than a months supply at one time without seeing your doctor. You cannot get a refill without seeing your doctor when your script is either low or gone by the end of the prescribed month. The typical max you can get of any opioid is 4 times daily for 30 days, so 120.

...

The term "opioid" was actually invented to describe the creation of a class of drugs synthesized from opiates. Heroin is literally the original opioid, the drug the term was created to describe and the first mass-marketed opioid.

Eat shit, Jew. Its a proven fact.
nsc.org/RxDrugOverdoseDocuments/Evidence-Efficacy-Pain-Medications.pdf
>The opioid medications are often referred to as “powerful painkillers.” In fact, the evidence
shows that they are mild to moderate painkillers and less effective than over-the-counter
ibuprofen.

jada.ada.org/article/S0002-8177(14)60509-2/abstract
>The results of the quantitative systematic reviews indicated that the ibuprofen-APAP combination may be a more effective analgesic, with fewer untoward effects, than are many of the currently available opioid-containing formulations.

There are dozens of peer reviewed studies now. Opioid pain killers aren't better than over the counter tylenol and ibuprofen. The only thing opioids offer is an intoxicating effect.

I swear Sup Forums has the right idea when it comes to a lot of things, but when it comes to basic knowledge of drugs that doesn't even come from experience with them... its like listening to your bible thumping 6th grade health teacher telling you that marijuana will make you a gay satanist. Fuck you Ms. Hart you closeted dyke.

yeah. anyone who disagrees is an idiot. snorted i like oxy more than a small amount of heroin tbqh. i used to be into all that nonsense

Ok kid.

turns out, kingsman 2 isn't real life.

>get proven wrong
>keep shitposting
Yeah, you're a filthy kike animal.

>peer reviewed

Wow, just like (((global cooling))). I mean (((global warming))). I mean (((climate change))). The science is settled you fucking racists.

>Oy vey!
>The studies are all wrong, goy.
>Keep taking highly addictive opioids from your reputable doctor.
>You wouldn't want to be a racist!

We don't? Speak for yourself, John. Er, Don.

I think people who trust the state's gatekeepers and blindly swallow whatever pills they're given deserve to suffer, and there's only one finger I would lift to save them.
End medical regulations. People will be less stupid when they're taking direct responsibility with all the information that the Internet can give them. Right now there's a trusted authority involved, and that fucks things right up.

I have lived my entire life without ever abusing drugs.

Why do americans have such a problem doing the same?

I wasn't disagreeing.

This is a different problem

Most opioid users in the US are people who get perscriptions from their docs for minor shit.

It's a scam and some (((corrupt politicians))) are in on it.
They recognise retarded deseases that nobody watches out for and legalize opioid perscriptions for them.

your violent crime rate is also off the charts. i'd rather have some drug addicts than get shot.

You don't die quickly from opioids you colossal retard

Heroin is an opiate. Opioids are synthetic. Fentanyl is an opioid and is what people are dying in mass to.

Thanks to the Chinese.

Go touch some carfent and watch how quickly you die.

Heroin is not an opiate. Opiate means it's naturally found in thew opium poppy. The only 3 pharmaceutical opiates in it (besides inactive ones) are morphine, codeine and thebaine.
If it's not morphine, codeine or thebaine it's by definition not an opiate.

attack big pharma
they want us dumbed down and pliable like dindus and their gibs

Please spout more Sup Forums approved buzzwords like jew/kike/cuck/nigger/etc you unoriginal bitch. Oh I'm sorry, Dr. Unoriginal Bitch.
>While these drugs are not addictive or habit-forming, their use and effectiveness were limited by its side-effects and toxicity. All NSAID medications share some of the same side-effects of aspirin, primarily the risk of gastrointestinal irritation and ulcer. These medications can also adversely affect renal function.
>Acetaminophen avoids many of the side effects of opioids and NSAIDs but carries its own risk with liver toxicity.
When I tore a muscle in my neck back in `12 I got a prescription for 2 weeks worth of 5mg vicodin, some prescription strength acetaminophen and prescription strength ibuprofen. I have a week stomach and the super tylenol/aleve had me on the verge of thowing up, which I actually did throw up in my sleep while I was reclined on my back on my couch. As great as these alternatives are they tear up your insides like its fucking nothing. Yeah they helped and took away a great deal of the pain, but the only thing I could stomach was the HARDCORE FAMILY SPLITTING INCURRING WRATH FROM GOD vicodins.
It's totally better to just fuck your kidneys, fuck your stomach lining, fuck your liver, just generally fuck up anything from your neck down by taking high potent doses of the alternative "safer" medicines for long term pain management. God fucking forbid someone might catch a slight high as a side effect that might help someone function through the pain whether or not its taken with nsaids or acetamenophen.
This is going to do nothing but fuck over the people who legit need these medications to deal with real pain. As always the criminal junkies are barely going to notice any difference in how hard it is to get their fix.
And before you even begin to infer that I'm just pissed because I can't get my drugs, my last opioid I took was 2 weeks after I got them 5 years ago as prescribed. Cunt.

Your a hard working 43 yr old, ur kid rebels, or was in athletics suffers and injury , next thing u know your progeny is hooked. SHOULD THEY BE KILLED???

Dr. Nosenberg is getting white people addicted to drugs for shekels.

>the kike just keeps shilling for highly addictive opioids that are killing tens of thousands of people every year
Imajun my shawk

> I have a week stomach and the super tylenol/aleve.....
Meant to type that I don't have a weak stomach, and even managed to misspell weak. inb4 hurr durr I have peer reviewed studies that I cherry picked shit out of.

Oh nice one asshole, should've known you were one of those. Disregarding any other post you make in this thread because you're clearly an ignorant faggot.

How about he would finally adress the big pharma indutsry that is flooding the market with pills that make people crave for more?

How about the fucking goverment doing something like abolishing these pain killers most people start with and get addicted to it?

How about that Trump? That would be the best solution to this problem

This. Fpbp. Every single time.

>but don't we want druggies to die
what do you think will happen when you take away their opioids?

I agree with the sentiment. To add to that I'd have better policing of the drugs people are importing from China from the research chem facilities. A fair amount of those overdoses that are cited are likely from the fentanyls and related shit that dealers are importing and pressing into pills that resemble vicodin/percosets/etc.

>disregards medical studies
>HURRRFF HOW DARE YOU DISREGARD MY BLOG POST ANECDOTE

Typical subhuman kike.
Doesn't matter if its back pain in the elderly, chronic or severe, pain in children after a bone fracture, wisdom tooth removal, even treating a hernia, opioid pain killers are not as effective as ibuprofen plus tylenol. This such a well studied topic that it isn't even contested any more. It is absolute fact. Opioids are addictive shitty drugs that aren't even good for their intended purpose.

Like you're one to talk, with all your niggers in places like Chicago and the anglocucks that go on shooting rampages.

Criminals getting shot is counted as "violent crime" here.

Probably 90% of people getting shot or stabbed or hacked to shit here have it coming to them.

Please quote the part where I said that tylenol/ibuprofen aren't as or more effective that opioids.

>back pedaling now when this is the one thing you've been trying to argue against this entire time.
Yep. Its a kike.

Came here to say this. It's the beginning of another attack on our friendly neighborhood CIA niggers.

No really, highlight the part of my post where I said what you're implying I said. Surely you actually read my post and didn't just assume the argument I was going to make, right? Nah I'm sure you're much too smart for that. No chance you'd be that fucking retarded.
Here I'll help you out and post the negative things I said about the tylenol/ibuprofen, both quoted from that study that I'm sure you didn't cherry pick out of and from personal experience.
>While these drugs are not addictive or habit-forming, their use and effectiveness were limited by its side-effects and toxicity. All NSAID medications share some of the same side-effects of aspirin, primarily the risk of gastrointestinal irritation and ulcer. These medications can also adversely affect renal function.
>Acetaminophen avoids many of the side effects of opioids and NSAIDs but carries its own risk with liver toxicity.
These are both from your study. These drugs do what they were designed to do very very well. I did not dispute this in the slightest. What I'm disputing is that they are the end all be all solution for long term pain management because they have nasty side effect of fucking your shit up. Like eating a hole in your stomach, or shutting down your kidneys, or giving your cirrhosis, or making you so fucking nauseous that you'd rather be in mind breaking pain. Which is a great segway into my blog post anecdote
> I don't have a weak stomach (included correction from ) and the super tylenol/aleve had me on the verge of thowing up, which I actually did throw up in my sleep while I was reclined on my back on my couch. As great as these alternatives are they tear up your insides like its fucking nothing.

>refusing to put forth an original thought that didn't come from someone else.
Yep. It's a brainlet who just parrots the smarter people and has a false sense of superiority.

I'm so surprised. The mud fucking thunder cunt just leaves.

lol just decided to glance back over the thread and there's so much misinformation its fucking funny.
>I've had a bunch of people I know die of overdose. Almost every one of them was a productive member of society.
Bullshit. Do you have any idea just how much of an overdose you have to take to die? An absolute metric fuckton. So how many of that "bunch" of 1 or 2 people decided to drink a bottle of jack with their 3-4 pills too many, pass out on their back, and then choked on their own vomit from "overdose".
So much ignorance in these threads.

>helping drug addicts
>not killing them
Trump needs to take notes from Duterte

>white man needs to take notes from shitskin
>we need to kill white people

If all the druggies die, who will post on /pol?

No, we want drug dealers like the (((Sackler))) family who pushed this shit by bribing doctors and lying about its effects to be tried, convicted, and hanged. They were convicted of felonies for it before and their only punishment was a fine amounting to less than half 0.005% of the profits.

Yeah, let the State kill those nasty drug addicts that the State played a major role in making into drug addicts. Sound plan kid. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Please go inject a bunch of fentanyl and tell me how quickly you die

You will be 25% white if you won't help your neighbour. The opioid epidemic is mostly white isn't it?

Ye caught alot of fish with that one!
>Here, have a (You)

>Fentanyl=Heroine=Oxycodone=Hydrocodone
>Missing the point
>I was just PRETENDING to be retarded for the memes.

What? I've been hearing about the US opioid epidemic like every week for the past year or so. And I don't even live in the US.

Because now he can shut down the borders in the name of the war on drugs on libshits can't do a thing about it.

wat
Someone said opiates don't kill you quickly
It turns out they do if you OD
Did you even reply to the right fucking person?

Drugs makes you feel distanced from fixing your problems when you are abnormal and i don't means just mentally, but also physically, since fatties wouldn't survive without pills, they should be losing weight instead.

Opoid problem is almost exclusively a white problem. By doing this is he is helping whites.

AM I THE ONLY FUCKING DRUG ADDICT IN THIS WHOLE THREAD? DRUGS ARE KEWL THEY MAKE ME FEEEL GUD

now its everywhere. and its far cheaper than the street prices of pharma. i live in bumfuck and its here now. never was before. everyone in the know says its arriving from detroit.
so we take the poppy fields and heroin exploded on the streets of backwater USA.
who would have thought.
at least with prescription drugs there is some control and regulation as to the content of the substance. now there is nothing so its cut with non consistent quantities of fentanyl. people found by EMT's having overdoses are no longer having high success waking them up with naloxone. people are dying. but we should give credit where credit is due.

i kinda switched to a pipe today(tobacco) so sophisticated.

what kind of loser uses the word druggie you fucking geezer

switched from what sweetie?

cigarettes n cigars. 7 bucks you can get a well lot.

nor have I or known anyone who has. its so regulated now most people have been taken off pain meds cold turkey by their doctor with zero warning and nothing more than a sorry bout your luck. alot of situations with real pain management the standard of care is not being met because of pressure from the DEA. in east kentucky doctors do not write prescriptions for opiates period. no matter the circumstances. it has been this way for over 10 years now. but thanks to somebody you heroin is never far away in the community. unregulated. zero oversight obviously.