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THIS IS THE FREE MARKET IN ACTION

> The world’s super-rich hold the greatest concentration of wealth since the US Gilded Age at the turn of the 20th century, when families like the Carnegies, Rockefellers and Vanderbilts controlled vast fortunes.

> Billionaires increased their combined global wealth by almost a fifth last year to a record $6tn (£4.5tn) – more than twice the GDP of the UK. There are now 1,542 dollar billionaires across the world, after 145 multi-millionaires saw their wealth tick over into nine-zero fortunes last year, according to the UBS / PwC Billionaires report.

> “We’re at an inflection point,” Stadler said. “Wealth concentration is as high as in 1905, this is something billionaires are concerned about. The problem is the power of interest on interest – that makes big money bigger and, the question is to what extent is that sustainable and at what point will society intervene and strike back?”

theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/26/worlds-witnessing-a-new-gilded-age-as-billionaires-wealth-swells-to-6tn

>free market
>when the wealthiest companies are kept afloat with taxpayer money and startups/small-business is taxed and regulated to death
Learn what a free market is dumb cunt.

>shit.jpeg
Kys faggot

>super rich super secret organizations run criminal networks to control the financial world behind the scenes
Totally capicalizm goys, gotta tax the rich!

lets kill the 1% then, they are all kikes anyway.

Capitalism. Nobody said life is fair.

also
>using the guardian as a source ever
Throw yourself into the nearest croc-infested river.

This is an inevitable byproduct of the super rich accumulating so much wealth that they can effectively buy politicians

the system is flawed


> It's not TRUE Capitalism!

You sound just like a communist

how should the market allocate resources?
>bill gates makes an operating system that fuels the explosion of many other technologies
>these technologies pave the way for rapid advancements in health care, e-commerce, communication, etc

>nigger has trouble leaving his house because the door frames are too narrow
Should we limit bill gates reward to twice that of the nigger? 3x? or should they be equal?

capitalism and inequality is the best thing that has ever happened to mankind

Most billionaires accrue their wealth through interest-on-interest you absolute boot licker

Americucks are the best good goys

75% of billionaires are self made.
80% of millionaires are self made.

income from interest isn't that much, so if you want a lavish lifestyle you have to own a company and manage it well.

Okay dumbass, I just explained why the rich were able to accumulate so much wealth in the first place, and how corporate influence on government is a two-way street. I agree that the system is flawed, but like every neo-keynesian bootlicker you assume the solution is
>lol just tax moar and gib moar welfarez
That wont work. It hasn't worked for the past 30 years, in case you haven't noticed.

> income from interest isn't that much

you have no idea what you're talking about do you? Do you know how effective compounding interest is at that level of wealth?

what a cuck

keep shilling for your oligarch overlords

Poor people spend more of their income on things, rich people accumulating and sitting on wealth does alot less for aggregate demand

I bet you subscribe to the muh job creators myth

We need to breed the goyim with unintelligent blacks, teach them to blindly follow what they dont understand with common core, distract them with engineered television, turn them against each other through politics. Goys need to stop being so smart and engaged.

every dollar is nothing but an interest payment. all your money has no value. it is already owned by those people. all you get to do is pay even more interest money for the interest required for your fucking interest money

>rich people accumulating and sitting on wealth does alot less for aggregate demand
You honestly think that those at the bottom create more wealth and capital than a CEO because they spend a greater percentage of their income? Sorry, that's not how anything works at all. Maybe take an economics class and you'll realize this.

go lay a thai tranny do blow talk to frat buddy at bank offshore and play computer games
>muh lemonade stand
hamburger waitresses do more work and need to think about more things at once than you did when you married into it or inherited it. number one indicator of success is that of the same sex parent

If i made some good bussiness decision and made billions. I would tell everyone to fuck off too.

I am pretty sure you would as well op, you fucking fag.

the lottery is a tax on the feeble

Poland, stop acting like niggers.

Maybe learn to type and then I'll make a response you degenerate cocksucker.

>WAH! I WANNA BE RICH! IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I'M NOT RICH!
Rich is just another name for Dick.

The rich get richer due to government subsidies

I'll consider taking you seriously when you gouge European mainstream politicians and the 13 families

what's your problem with rich people? did a rich person rape you?
Do you think you wouldn't have to have a job if rich people didn't exist?

you cant even read the first defence against you without admitting youre a fucking brainless inbred stooge
>muh well earned CEO-hood!
good job. a truly gruelling three second work day. you goof. stop speaking

kill yourself shill rat

Jail all Jews and confiscate their wealth. Problem solved.

Kill yourself. You can't even type properly you fucking retard.

this isn't "free market in action", you retard. you have no idea how the world works, do you?

Saying cold water burns people while pointing to someone heating water with a flame then splashing people in the face is not the same thing as marxists trying to implement marxism by implementing marxist policies, failing to reach marxism and then saying its not marxism because they failed.

If you cant see that then you are a troll and I bid you adieu.

retards here like to pretend they're upper class
you are wasting your time

heard you the first time claudia. unlike you. the randy ceo who cant even read. and says it two times. he's proud he bottles his retard farts and tries to shill em on here. it's why you have such a huge nose. no manhood or brains. but a fucken hook nosed beak

>wah wah wah some people are richer than me!
Who fucking cares? You can make your own wealth and live a happy, prosperous life. If you can't enjoy your own wealth because somebody has more than you then you are just a hopelessly greedy, petty, insecure fuck who probably has a massive inferiority complex.

>almost 6/7 of the world population are niggers, poos, and chinks living in shitholes
>be surprised when rich people have more money than them

I really hate when people bring this argument up. If we were only comparing billionaires to populations in developed countries the the numbers would be much better.

Rich people have more money than him. That simple fact makes his blood boil. How dare they have more than him. Sure he could be enjoying his one and only life on this earth and making the most of things, but some guy would still have more than him so that's practically the same as him having nothing so he should just waste all his time stewing in impotent fury and insisting the rich man give away everything he has. Because it's not about making everyone happy, it's about making sure nobody is happier than him.

You are literally fucking retarded if you think that. What you arguing is literally the opposite of what occurs.

People don't just create jobs out of thin air - aggregate demand creates job and companies are the means of how jobs are created.

This is macro 101

Own a sole proprietor business:

100k revenue year one
Rent 10k
Office expenses : 2.5k
Marketing expenses: 2k
Insurance: 500
Hire employee: 30k

Total 55k remaining

Possibly add mileage write off

Penalty for hiring (payroll tax) - 1750

Self employment tax- 8000
Income tax- 5500
State tax 1000

Total income- 40500

Employee gets fired- unemployment
Your business fails- bankruptcy lose your house


Be amazon:

450 billion in assets
Governments fight tooth and nail to waive tax requirements

Get paid to operate a monolithic corporation with minimal concern of employee well being.

Inflate property markets with mass invasion...

Too big to fail. Put many small and mid sized businesses out of business with competitive advantage from more financial leverage.. the ability to lose large sums of money with no risk... and have deep political connections and own media propoganda machines to buy influence and favorable legal conditions.

Push hardcore sjw small enterprise killing agendas such as Obama care... universal basic income... single payer health care.

Competition carries even higher cost burden... You weather the storm and take over additional industries and buy more influence.

That is not capitalism. That is called oligarchy.

> ancap flag

post ignored

All Americans are temporarily embarrassed millionaires - it's quite tragic the levels they will stoop to to defend their gods - the job creators

> One day I'LL be the boot!

And who provides for the initial capital? Who makes the decisions that keep the company running? Who decides how many are going to work at the company and how much of their service that they will supply?
Also I love how you simply group the activities of all non-rich people into a single category yet treat the CEOs as individuals when comparing overall market participation just to suit your narrative.

2 things:

-the great nigsplosion
-Price's law
-automation

Because of Price's law we should expect relative wealth inequality to increase as population increases. Also because of automation and computers in general small numbers of people can multiply their own productivity many hundreds or even thousands of times thus creating further inequality.

It's fully expected and actually completely fair. What's dangerous is wealth distribution because it hurts overall productivity which hits all levels of society.

It's not TRUE capitalism, and the difference is, true capitalism is about doing LESS. There's no great unmet need producing this iniquity. We've just let foxes into the henhouse. A system where plutocrats control it is not necessarily the same thing as a capitalist system. We need to roll back unproductive government interventions, because you can bet they're being productive for somebody every time.

That's not what we're arguing dickhead.

You argued that rich people having alot of wealth created jobs - which is literally the opposite of what happens. Poor and middle class people have money to spend on things creates demand which creates jobs. An oil company doesn't just decide "lets hire an engineer today for no reason". Demand in the local market creates the need for an engineer to overseas facilities (for example), so then the company responds to that demand and hires an engineer.

This non-sequiter about decisions and CEOs is irrelevant and not what I was talking about.

Real stateless capitalism has never been tried though. It's true.

B-based

There's comes a point where the distribution of wealth is si concentrated you have become a feudalistic technocratic society. Only few can afford to own the land and force the peasants to pay you for their existence They can only afford buy your products... and get food from the major farming conglomerates

You are missing a key point in economics... creating wealth for more people creates wealth for all.
Completely obliterating mico economies drains wealth and concentrates it and creates wealth for noone.

This paper is used to hire smart humans to build computers smarter than them. After time the only function of a human being is to repair the robots that repair the other robots. Then the rental properties and the serfs are no longer needed... at which point if humanity is lucky... it will evolve in to a monarchy with the noble king who provides farming robots and land for all. If it is an evil king it matters not.. as he has an army of robots...

I'm 100% for enterprise this isn't enterprise. The cost of socialism in dollar figures does not consider increase to barrier of entry.

More people poor equals either starvation... Or even more state wards...

Further manifesting the issue.. and increasing barrier to entry.

This critical mass will implode... and small business will collapse.
Then you add in ai and robotics to and you have a cluster fuck humanity has never seen before and a legitimate social regression.. Or progress if you are one of the chosen. This isn't the industrial revolution where farms became factories... this is the technological world... where 10s of billions of dollars have legitimately been invested in making the most reliable equipment to date.. humans... obsolete. Invested in developing artificial minds that can out think humans 1 million fold.. and never physically tire.

There is nothing free about free markets... it is mostly a rigged game..

This is the real issue.. not a ceo making 10 million per year.

>the world's super rich
>tries to make it all about "The US" to incite fury

Hahaha. So you're telling me that all of the "super rich" live in free-market, capitalist societies, right ausbro? Right?

The 1% is the Jews

Hey cunt, next time you decide to shitpost, make sure your image downloads all the way first!

No.

You're missing the point. They use "the world's super rich" to construct a straw man against US-based free market capitalism. A huge portion of these so called "super rich" live in regime nations or are essentially monarchs, like the Saudis. This is a stupid appeal to emotion that slanders free markets but does nothing else.

No one else in this thread has pointed this out.

You are all retarded.

And my argument is that the initial capital investment by the CEO gave that worker the opportunity in the first place.
But your right, it is a non-sequitur, because all it boils down to is individuals exploiting circumstances at the right time. The business owner took advantage of a demand for some service/product that wasn't being filled, and the worker took advantage of a job that was offered.
As said, a little bit of inequality should be expected, and taxing productivity is unfair because it disincentives smart-decision making whilst incentivizing being on welfare, which harms productivity.
Is there supposed to be a point in that wall of reddit-spaced text?

Best time in history to be an aristocratic 1%.

The plebs are too obsessed with social media, television, etc to ever asset their strength (numbers) and will be happily controlled and taken advantage of

Death solves this, 80% of all family wealth is lost in three generations.

I think you are missing my point.. there is no issue with a ceo making smart decisions for a company that leads to success and wealth creation for others.

I'm not even interjecting in to that argument. If you subscribe to any belief of a globalist conspiracy it matters not what nation the elite hail from because there are no such thing as borders to the elite anyway.

Most of them own slave factories... and even import them. They all buy land anywhere and everywhere because of their massive wealth. English soccer teams owned by Russian oligarchs... Americans gambling their wealth to saud princes... Russians and Chinese buying skyscrapers and keeping them empty.. or sitting on land to drive prices up.

They are almost sovereign nations due to their financial strength... can pay foreign governments to bend to their will... they create wars.. they have the ability to crash the stock market... institutions of finance... and throw the globe in to chaos never seen before.

And they will... once their robots are done. Until then they need to keep feeding their slaves... and devote massive time and resources in to keeping the blind slaves blind.

...and that initial capital investment was only the result of working/middle class people demanding things.

Thanks for proving my point - it is the middle class that drives the economy, not rich people pissing on us and calling it a shower.

You imply that this is a bad thing.

Some of these people worked to get where they are,you know that right?What do you propose? That you get a cut for not doing shit?

Let me tell you something,faggot. These evil rich dudes you keep harping on about are the ones that create the jobs you need to sustain yourself.

If you want you can live in the jungle and hunt deer for food,the rest of us are happy and don't whine like bitches because we aren't rich enough to wipe our asses with solid gold bars.
Some of us don't need that.

> Let me tell you something,faggot. These evil rich dudes you keep harping on about are the ones that create the jobs you need to sustain yourself.

It was THEIR decision to use THEIR money and skill to exploit a market opening. Therefore they have a right to claim the fruits of their labor. Nobody is entitled to a job, and your certainly not entitled to claim that which you had no part in creating.
>not rich people pissing on us and calling it a shower.
Oh fuck off. You clearly just have an axe to grind and I don't even know why I'm arguing with someone as dense as you.

WE COULD ALL BE COMMIES ND OWN NOTHING EQUALLY, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! AS LONG AS I GET FREE COLLEGE IT’LL TOTALLY BE WORTH IT!!!

shit forgot to set my flag back

at the end of the day all systems are dysfunctional and out dated, a "free market" will lead to corrupt rich people buying off others and a communist state will lead to the rich either leading or doing exactly the same, eitherway the systems are just about how much you can spend to buy off politicians before the system fails, corruption is how humans work but ofcourse no one will admit that, you just need to look at social media to understand the levels of narcissim there is on the planet, you're all fucked and so am i, congratulations dickheads.

I really do believe the concept of money is foreign to people, their wealth is not in dollars or gold or any of that shit. Its in infrastructure, regulations, and information; taxing them is going to do nothing. They will never lose those commodities, especially when they can easily transfer wealth from on commodity to another.

the free market will fix it

we just need to give the rich a little tax cut they're practically starving from the taxes

shadilay! praise kek

Le evil rich dudes hoarding all the money under their bed!!!!!!!!!11

That fucking money is at work somewhere invested. Possibly at your local hairdresser who needed a loan to expand her business. Not ever is money standing still, so the question to ask is who gains the yield? Probably the same people, but that doesn't stop you from doing the same. It's not like they got all the wealth and now you are unable to get your own.

These endless excuses just because you are poor are really annoying. First you don't understand shit how money works, second you don't understand shit about how the financial system works. (No it's not perfect either). And third, you aren't even taking an interest in getting to know how it all works. If you did that, you would be on your way taking steps to become wealthier. You know it's not hard; 1. you spend less than you make and 2. you invest the rest in something you are an expert in. Yes, this means you have to manage your finances better. (Ie. not going on fucking holiday wasting your fucking money on bullshit.) And also you'll have to learn something about the financial market. You can pick one of them and do research in the evening, after your regular job. Wow it gets quite time consuming now doesn't it? You know, that's too much I'm better off crying to my government to go after these ebil companies. But you know what, government and companies are friends for the most part, so no matter how much you cry there will always be "wealth inequality" whatever the fuck that is. You are not entitled to shit.

If you want to get wealthy (not fucking rich, wealth is measured in time, not money. How long can you sit on your ass and do nothing will still making money.) you have access to all the information, it has never been easier to make an income on trading or investing. But people always look for the get-rich-quick-scheme, and that doesn't work. Maybe a few get lucky but they'll lose it all later, just how lottery winners fuck up

>- it is the middle class that drives the economy

Well it's certainly not the middle class creating the jobs, because they are dumb as fuck. So who's really behind the steering wheel you fucktard.

>the common Sup Forums complaint is that the market is not free, but instead controlled by jews

>LOL SEE THIS IS THAT FREE MARKET YOU WANT THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ANYWAY WHICH IS WHY YOU WANT IT, Sup Forums

I just don't understand the logic of you dumbfucks. Not only the obvious
>Sup Forums is not one person
but even the internal logic encapsulated in your assumptions is fucking wrong.

I'd like to think you're just trolling, but at some level, I don't think you are.

PS: rothschilds own trillions, but are specifically excluded because they're "nobility"

even your "facts" are wrong, jesus

I agree with you

The 99%

Yet real wages haven't risen in years. The irony of this is this time around... capitalism is actually leading to socialism .

Notice how the winners of capitalism the besos..the musk.. the cuckerberg.. are promoting widespread massive socialism via universal basic income.. single pay health care.. etc? They are even monopolizing more of the media to push this agenda.

That is the ultimate reality of the situation. The apex of capitalism (total accumulation of wealth) is also the collapse of capitalism... which depending on the situation will ultimately lead to technocratic: feudlisn.. communism... a monarchy.. Or best case a barter system.

I say socialism or feudalism because they appears to be the current trajectory.

That is the power of the fiat and societal conditioning. As another poster said... the real wealth is in the infrastructure and other assets.

It's really a race at this point... will humans complete the job of self genocide by developing ai and robots... of will enough people abandon fiat thst it becomes worthless and these men lose their power.

Hopefully im dead before we find out.

>PS: rothschilds own trillions

RoThScHiLdS oWn TriLLiOnS
just stay down little poor man, you can't do anything because "RoThScHiLdS oWn TriLLiOnS" haha too bad poor men

Do you know how this sounds? The same as they do with black people. "Haha black people stand up, you can't do math, that's white privilege. Better stay down and complain."
This is exactly the same, and it saddens me that some of you are on par with the SJW type of thinking. Sad.

Said the one getting fucked in the ass by his CEO overlords.

the true hardest pill to swallow is that nothing will save us, even the retards here shilling socialism communism , a free market etc

it's all flawed because humans are flawed and they will do anything to corrupt any system there is.

i love watching idiots argue over what system is better.

The commie alternative is even worse. God, if we have like a third position or something. A man can dream.

Kid, I worry about your generation. Notice the proper use of your. You're on your way to the darkest of ages. When the commoner can't even read to understand information he has not been given or learned first hand. Learn to fucking punctuate too. There's a big difference in "We're fucking, Grandma!", and "We're fucking grandma!". Read a fucking book on the language you're barely typing. Illiterate fuck

I disagree. this has very little to do with literacy. those are his actual thoughts, recorded verbatim.