It's current year and there are still anons who will defend this

It's current year and there are still anons who will defend this.

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It created a lot of job opportunities.

>anons who will defend this
Defend it from what though? It's unanimously agreed to be the best mecha anime ever made.

jej

Specifically the black and white last episode. It's unjustifiable.

Sure, unemployment goes down during wartime, but that's basically the broken window fallacy applied to employment. Real economic health is about production of goods with utility value.

Building a megastructure like buster machine J would surely stimulate both the economy and technological research. The end result might not generate value as such apart from the continued survival of mankind.
As long as a healthy economic model is utilized, I see this project as a win-win.

What do you do with all of the workers and facilities and infrastructure after you're done building it? Build another one?

t. no-budget beliving retard

Repurpose or abandon I guess?
What am I, Albert Speer?

>black and white was a stylistic choice that cost more then using color animation
Why do people not understand Gainax shows?

Abandon it is, suddenly millions unemployed and billions worth of resources wasted. Hardly a win-win, it's nothing but temporary, artificial prosperity, like during wartime.

The final battle was literally a slideshow, and you choose to bring up the stylistic black and white to bitch about?

Humanity didn't have to go that far.

Hardly wasted considering the end result.
The experience and organisation remains to be utilized in other ventures that were put on hold due to the project.

Not that guy, but "wasted" is a strong word to use when that bomb ended the war.

You can go to any lengths for survival

>Hardly wasted considering the end result.
>"wasted" is a strong word to use when that bomb ended the w
There's such a thing as necessary waste, but waste nonetheless.

Try to keep up, lads. I'm saying the stylistic choice is unjustifiable. If it was due to budget I'd be more forgiving.

>jej

Fuck off

top zhezh

That's some impressive mental gymnastics.

>"Waste is any substance which is discarded after primary use"
How does a bomb not fit the definition?

Oh also, "necessary waste" isn't mental gymnastics.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muda_(Japanese_term)
>Muda Type - I : The non value added activity for end customer but it is necessary.

>looking cool is bad

Then what is not waste? If you still consider neccessary use and repurposed substances, "waste"?

This may sound like an exchange about semantics but you know what I think happened?
I think you just spouted some bullshit and are trying to backpedal to "win" this conversation.
Don't bother answering, I promise to leave this thread and clip my nails.

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There are still people who thought this was a good cover.

i can still fap to it

The structures went on to build additional buster machines to defend against other threats.
Diebuster shows that they at least built up to Buster Machine 7 as well as an entire armada to defend the sol system. Apparently the growth was sustainable.

Canonical pubic hair.

this thing as mostly hallow or something, right?

It's okay.

I don't understand the people who dislike the black and white final episode. I thought it was great. There's plenty more to attack in gunbuster other than the coloring.

The episode was in black and white because the final episode was a slide show. They were using pencil sketches. Release the Cels, Gianax!

Why did you think it was great?

It was meaningless, superficial, masturbatory. As expected of the master.

>Then what is not waste?
Something that can be reused, repurposed or recycled. A bomb certainly can only be used once and can't be in any way salvaged afterwards. You might think regarding the production of bombs as wasteful is autistic, but from a purely economic point of view it absolutely is. Your product doesn't just turn into 100% waste upon first usage, it also lays waste whatever is around it. The buster machine at hand literally wasted 8 billion lives and 30,000 ships. I absolutely can't think of any other project, fictional or real, that was more wasteful.

Friendly reminder there is nothing wrong with style for its own sake

Yeah they should have just not built it, that way when all of humanity are dead because they lose the war they can atleast die knowing they didn't "waste" their time building a weapon to win the war.

Value is relative, the continued survival of humanity isn't a wasteful endeavor.

>the goalposts are now in another dimension

If it appeals to other people other than the creator, how is it "mastabatory"? Its hard for me to understand; I can assume that most porn creators would want to jerk off to their own works but does that mean its a bad thing if other people like that stuff too?

You're thinking it in the wrong way, the factor you forgot is opportunity cost. Don't make the bomb = die

You can make a billion chairs instead of that bomb but arguably getting to live is better

Also no mainstream form of economics considers government/wartime expenditure to be "false prosperity", it is real demand with real money going out. Something suddenly not being in demand isn't false, otherwise websites would be false money. Incorrect valuations have nothing to do with that.

Who wouldnt' defend that, it was humanity's last hope.

The only thing you lose is raw materials which we're never too strapped for. The money that went to the people doesn't magically disappear. The investment into intermediate goods is not wasted expenditure. Not dying is a good final outcome.

Do not confuse false valuations with false money. A bubble bursting or being done with a war is a condition that shifts demand, and requires a shift in valuation. It does not mean the money put in is fake.

Furthermore, if not dying as an end product has no utility, then neither does food