I am German and I have no problem with race or religion

I actually think it is a strength to have different people in Germany. And I do not mind if someone has dark skin or worships Allah or God, as long as people keep their worship to themselves and don't show their allegiance to their religion in public.

I am, however, 100 percent opposed to illegal economic migration of people who do not contribute to society or are criminals. I am thus for deportation centers of all people who are not personally prosecuted at home and who do not hold a full time job in Germany.

Go on and tell me that I am wrong, but I believe Germany is stronger with immigration as long as it is not low skilled economic immigration.

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archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
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Then you are not a German

German = pure bloodline, racial awareness and noble living

kys

Not an argument. America is strong because of immigration, even from non European countries.

cuck

>I am, however, 100 percent opposed to illegal economic migration of people who do not contribute to society or are criminals
So in other words you hate muslims and niggers

Most of Germans are mixed people. Germans have mixed with Slavs, Celts, Bayuvariana, Romanians etc. for 2,000yrs. Germans regularly raided surrounding areas and killed men there, then took the women and children. Guess what, that resulted in race mixing.

Wrong. Not all Muslims and not all negroes are criminals or economic migrants. Many of them work, e.g. as kebab restaurant owners or in used car dealerships. Some work construction or even study and work in offices. You should not judge people by their exterior.

>mixing with fellow Europeans is the same as mixing with niggers and sandniggers
no

>Germans regularly raided surrounding areas and killed men there, then took the women and children
And now muzzies are killing you and raping your women. Oh how the times have changed

Germans = Celtic-Germanic + some Slavic in Prussia and the South
You = non-German subhuman failing evolutionary group strategy by your lack of in-group preference
kys Kanakd

Muh they aren't all like that!

>I do not mind if someone has dark skin or worships Allah
>stronger with immigration as long as it is not low skilled economic immigration.
Found the problem with your argument.

>Wrong. Not all Muslims and not all negroes are criminals or economic migrants. Many of them work, e.g. as kebab restaurant owners or in used car dealerships. Some work construction or even study and work in offices. You should not judge people by their exterior.
I should, because it's correct. Not all of them are criminals but a huge amount of them are. And the ones that aren't criminals or on welfare are working in low wage occupations, which means that they consume more government services than they pay in taxes

Yeah, enjoy being demographically replaced then, Hans.
Ask the South Africans how living in a white minority country is like. Do you think their country is amazing because it's 90% non-white?

>which means that they consume more government services than they pay in taxes

So do women.

This was meant for this

Yes, it is literally the same. Genetics doesn't mean that the brain of a mixed race child has a lower IQ than a "pure white" child. Exterior influences are a much higher influence on IQ including what the mother eats and does during pregnancy. An Iranian woman with a Germanic husband may have a rather smart kid if the pregnancy is carried out in Germany.

>t. russian mongrel
Sure thing, Augustyn, tell us what it's about lel.

Germany for the germans. Stand up for yourself, theres nothing wrong with it

This is not correct. The number of killings and rapes by Muslims in Germany is very low. You should be more concerned about being killed in an air accident or while doing repairs for your house. Also, next to Muslims there are also Christians and atheists who commit crimes.

This is absolutely bullshit and has been disprove by adoption studies.

Most of your IQ is genetic, and by the time people are like 50 years old, the social differences go away and IQ is like 99% genetic.

>Yes, it is literally the same. Genetics doesn't mean that the brain of a mixed race child has a lower IQ than a "pure white" child. Exterior influences are a much higher influence on IQ including what the mother eats and does during pregnancy. An Iranian woman with a Germanic husband may have a rather smart kid if the pregnancy is carried out in Germany.
>I don't understand genetics: the post
No. In western countries, IQ is 80 % heritable. You're simply wrong

>an Iranian woman with a Germanic husband
implying this ever happens
you are such a cuck if you are German, but you are probably a muslim

Iranians are pretty fucking based and kind of white though.

You would know.

I do not quite understand what you are trying to point out. There are low and high IQ people in Germany, correct. But it is mostly a socioeconomic reaction of exterior influences during pregnancy and thereafter. We have smart Serbs here, smart Greeks, even smart Russians and Iranians and even smart Chinese or South Americans.

>This is not correct
See the chart I posted. Use your eyes and read mein neger

Anywhere I can get a vid of you spreading it wide for the rapefugees?

Culture and genes cannot be separated

>which means that they consume more government services than they pay in taxes
This is correct for those who ask for asylum, but is not correct for the rest of the 17 million people with migration background in Germany. Actually, they are typically younger, in work and net contributors to the German economy as they often had their schooling in Poland or Romania or Russia or Iran before moving to Germany.

After you showed one of your obese wife getting cucked by tyrone?

you don‘t get that curve? you oppinion is worthless, back to school with you.

What a morally bankrupt society you must live in. One where everyone is just another interchangeable economic unit and where anything can be justified as long as it provides a small short term gdp increase

Kek. Enjoy the rape and your poison skittles.

>Yeah, enjoy being demographically replaced then, Hans.

I have heard this "argument" so many times. What does it even mean? If a person has Polish parents but grew up in Germany and studied engineering here, speaks perfect German, does that mean we are being replaced by Polish people? Or are they actually integrated and are now Germans of Polish descent like Americans all have a heritage but still consider themselves American.

>This is correct for those who ask for asylum, but is not correct for the rest of the 17 million people with migration background in Germany. Actually, they are typically younger, in work and net contributors to the German economy as they often had their schooling in Poland or Romania or Russia or Iran before moving to Germany.
[Citation needed]

No. They don't. 80% genetic. you're just being stubborn because you want to virtue signal.

Your police leaked messages that they were ordered to lie about numbers weren't they?

>This is absolutely bullshit and has been disprove by adoption studies.
How could adoptive studies show that influences during pregnancies do effect IQ?

>dat acceptance of fate
F

Heritability in many studies includes influences such as protein intake and stimuli during pregnancy and early childhood experiences such as initial nurturing. Most of our brain structures are set between month 4 of the pregnancy and month 12 after birth.

you represent everything that's wrong with modern day Germany

It happens a lot. E.g. 70 percent of Russian citizens in Germany are women. This is because there is a lot of race mixing between Russian women and German men.

Mixed race here.

You're either a fucking moron or a shill. FFS get your country together krauts. Before it's too late.

Look, I don't know if you're a retard. But if you struggle with basic words, consider looking them up.
> "Heritability", in this sense, "refers to the genetic contribution to variance within a population and in a specific environment
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

he's a kike shill and no doubt JIDF and you just fell for his shitty bait, igor

I am against large scale illegal immigration as pointed out in my OP.

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I’ll drop this here

You have a set of twins. You have one adopted into one type of environment and another twin into another set of variables. Presto! Science.

Furthermore, adoption studies done on African babies has shown that the upbringing really doesn't change that much.

The united states has spent billions trying to close these gaps, and we've basically given up. Our leading math educators are now calling math racist because they are admitting blacks can't do it.

>if they speak perfect German
>actually intergreted
Niggers are none of this, they speak different languages, don't understand your laws, practice different forms of religions, list just goes on.
You're an idiot.

Not sure what you want to say, but genetic studies in Germany show that there are variations between Germans while culturally they are in a similar group.

also germany is just like belgium, a none country, it's without coincidence you two faggots share the same colored flag.

Holy fuck Polan. You couldn't tell it was Ivan trolling?

Nobody is debating that retard. Perfect nutrition only does so much. No vitamin and nutrition differences have been able to offset the black/white racial divides in America.

>I actually think it is a strength to have different people in Germany.

Sociology says otherwise

archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

Increased diversity as a whole (as measured by Cultural, linguistic, religious and Ethnic diversity) NEGATIVELY impacts social health indicators. Read the study I linked for more details on that.

And yes, the study was done by a progressive/liberal Political Sciences professor in the united states, it's not a blatant right-wing propaganda piece.

Is it really wrong to treat people based on their individual lives and what they do rather than by race/religion? Is Elon Musk a bad person because he is African?

He's saying this:

whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/

Blacks simply don't do abstractions. It's not something they had to evolve for in Africa, and so their culture's don't reflect these abilities.

Alt-hype did a great article about genetic distances. Unfortunately their site got shoah'd. Fuck me I should have copied all their articles

cultures

Non-racist “German” are not German and must be killed, especially when they go into politics. That’s how a proper evolutionary group startegy works. A LOT can be done to save Germany. From massacring shitskin kindergartens and pregnancy wards to scare off the brownies to bombing up the banks to scare off the government.

You are tired of this multi-kult? You unironically kill them and politicians in your country that support your replacement. Add anti-racist and mixed raced politicians, immigrant community leaders - you have the enemy list. Look, people don't go to places like Chechnya, Lithuania and Albania for a reason. That reason is ultra violence. If you want the parties in power to follow the pureblooded native voice, you must impose a great threat to them. Repeatedly throughout history "terrorism" has been proven to work. The IRA got what they wanted, so did the ANC, and so did the KKK for that matter--just a handful examples from many.

The IRA got what they wanted because they started bombing places like Canary Wharf, City of London and Manchester city center. It wasn't the killing and maiming of people that brought about peace it was the disruption of business, banking and commerce. The British government didn't give a fuck about dead citizens but they did care about business and banking going elsewhere.

Then there are things like Judeo-Bolshevism, which secured its power through terror, and so did National Socialism. You can question whether it's right, sure, but it clearly has and does work, because people are massive cowards, and will give up a lot when in danger of being blown up or tortured or killed.

This is just the reality, and reality isn't soft and cuddly.

No. German stats are available online and for all districts. Hard to falsify stats when people can verify them on a local basis. That would be a field day for our tabloids.

>America is strong because of non-European immigration
>spics shit up our neighbourhoods, bring their shitty culture here and breed like rabbits and produce nothing but cheap slave labour (I'll give them credit for their food however)
>niggers rape, kill, steal, breed like rabbits, die like flies, and produce not a god damn thing
>chinks bring their shit culture here, can't drive worth a fuck, buy all the property and inflate the housing bubble
The only non-white immigrants I tolerate are the nips and koreans because they integrate and keep to themselves for the most part.

And yet Germany is doing well. Look at "pure race" countries in Europe such as Ukraine or Belarus which are dirt poor with high crime rates. How come Germany is a rather rich country? Shouldn't Ukraine be way richer than us if race mixing and immigration is such a problem?

You have stockholme syndrome and you're a cuck. You're not unique in any way shape or form. Saged.

They were literally told to suppress them. You were literally lied to about numbers, and your response is "they cant lie about those"?

This isn't America where the victims can speak out. Your victims are basically considered racist for reporting their crimes and even more people keep their mouths shut. The truth is you have no clue how bad it is. In your neighboring countries that are reporting these things even slightly more accurately it's known they are responsible for 90+% of the rapes. That's a lot.

Should I grab the lube for you, or do you just like to watch?

Germany would be doing even better without the inferior races

Rich getting lectured by full blown immigrant countries like canada and america isn't it?

Women have the "burden" to bear children at some time of their life and in this time they NEED the support of family OR society.
KYS you misogynistic fuck

You realize wiki is confirming exactly what I am saying in their opening paras?

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The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.[5][6] In simpler terms, IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood.[7] Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores;[8] however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.[9][10]

Fucking idiot. You realize how much immigration has sucked in America?

Of course not. you're stroking your virtue signaling dick.
You deserve what's cumming... it won't be you in your wife.

Nice try achmed

>You have a set of twins. You have one adopted into one type of environment and another twin into another set of variables. Presto! Science.
Again, how could this measure differences during pregnancies?

>Ukraine
>pure race
I’m sure Germany is doing fine because of your
turkish, yugoslavian, kurdish and nigger scum.

Geh mir aus den augen Kanake
>muh potential, iq, capability, muh voting patterns
It's not about that. Not at all. Race and ethnicity matters and the only thing that matters. Objectivity in matters like this is for people without roots. It's a spiritual matter, not one you can tally up on a spreadsheet.
Suppose some "Children of Man" type disease hit Såizburg Land and no one here could have children so everyone adopted babies from Japan instead.

They'd speak with local accents, eat local food and behave in a few ways like Såizburg people (though in many ways they would not owing to racial differences in behaviour).

Would you consider them the same people as the Austrians of today?

Fuck I wouldn't want the yellow bastards there even if they were superior to us in every way, because they are *not* us and never will be.

>Germany is doing well
from your point of view. quality of life is not solely dependant on economic success.
>As of 2015, poverty in Germany is at its highest since German reunification in 1990. Some 12.5 million Germans are now classified as poor.
just took me a quick wiki search
en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Poverty_in_Germany

Do you realize how few of their studies are reproducible?

Africa didn't get the wheel until the 19the century.

Not BCE. CE.

Is this why America is the only superpower on Earth and one of the richest countries on a per capita basis?

are you trying to say Africans have lower IQs because they don't have access cushy pregnancies like women in the west?

No. No it doesn't, you just don't understand what it says. Heritabilty accounts for all environmental change, which is very small.
>In simpler terms, IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults
>to being strongly correlated with genetics
>strongly correlated
>with genetics

>Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores
>are not significant

These things all have an upper limit that was reached in America a long time ago.

Fucking stupid.

Why do they matter in twin studies?

In twin studies, both twins were born of the same exact pregnancy environment, and yet we still see huge genetic differences.

How so? Look at Japan - no immigration and their economy has huge dynamics problems and demographics problems. They are struggling to pay pensions and are extremely indebted.

Congratulations OP, you are a normal person with normal opinions.

You are stupidly assuming that muslims are going to keep worship to themselves? lol they are there to destroy your CULTURE and replace it with islam.

you're being colonized, idiot.

If there is one country which shouldn't lecture people about muh immigration bad muh it's america.
Their retardation levels finally reached rock-bottom now, these mongrels should simply be ignored.

but even worse in my opinion is the lack of education/culture/pride dignity and belonging and the success of degeneracy/the abandoning of human aesthetics

>Germans
>not indebted
Get our Hartz IV nigger

They have shown that vitamin/dietary supplements during pregnancy and childhood in america have no effect.

Do you understand that just pumping protein and vitamins into a kid has no effects after a certain point? Our cereals, baby formulas, dairy products are all PUMPED to the brim with these things in America. If anything our food is over saturated with many of them.
You can't explain these differences that exist across Africa and America with nutrition.

Blacks in America are about half white according to genetic testing and fall exactly in between whites and the blacks in Africa.

Why are Germans so fucking stubborn? I'm part German. Your stubbornness is annoying to me.

That user was talking about the societal impact of why women have a negative budget impact, and not about IQ studies

>How so? Look at Japan - no immigration and their economy has huge dynamics problems and demographics problems. They are struggling to pay pensions and are extremely indebted.
Their economy has been in a liquidity trap since the 2000's, what does that have to do with this? If you're going to argue that then you will need to prove that 3rd world immigration is the reason why Germany is doing relatively well

>however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.

ok then, why did you ignore this?

yes, partially correct. Also, playing classical music and doing other things during pregnancy and shortly thereafter that stimulates the baby's brain is rather important for IQ.

You wanted to reply to someone else?

>as long as it is not low skilled economic immigration.
Impale yourself on a pike.

You have done nothing but argue the economic benefits of immigration because is the only one that you can bullshit people on by using misleading numbers like gdp and employment

Gutentaag. What is green and flies over Germany?


Snazis

Would you buy a used car from your unelected leaders in Brussels?

youtube.com/watch?v=UoRRXkfLIkA

Why do they matter in twin studies?

In twin studies, both twins were born of the same exact pregnancy environment, and yet we still see huge genetic differences.

Only 20 percent of second and third gen Muslims in Germany wear the hijab, 80 percent of the women do not.

So yes, most do not rub religion in eveyone's face.

Yup sorry, wrong reply.

>ok then, why did you ignore this?
Are you seriously this retarded? I already explained to you what "heritability" is, did I not? IQ is affected by BOTH ENVIRONMENT AND GENES. Heritability explains how much each factor contributes to this. Heritability of 80 % means that environmental factors only explain 20 % of the variance we see

>t. part german
kek

doesn't explain the IQ difference between Africans and Australian Aboriginals

also Americans blacks have access to cushy western pregnancies and the IQ difference between them and white Americans is still there...

Europe invaded Africa while most areas didnt have a written language. CMON YOU MUST BE TROLLING