>This is, to be blunt, political suicide. The Democrats’ current position seems to be that the Dreamer parents who broke the law are near heroes, indistinguishable from the children they brought with them; and their rhetoric is very hard to distinguish, certainly for most swing voters, from a belief in open borders. In fact, the Democrats increasingly seem to suggest that any kind of distinction between citizens and noncitizens is somehow racist. You could see this at the last convention, when an entire evening was dedicated to Latinos, illegal and legal, as if the rule of law were largely irrelevant. Hence the euphemism “undocumented” rather than “illegal.” So the stage was built, lit, and set for Trump.
>He still tragically owns that stage. What Merkel did for the AfD, the Democrats are in danger of doing for the Trump wing of the GOP.
We'll lose all our rights to the fucking rethuglicans because of this, fuck the democrats
>They still formally favor enforcement of immigration laws, but rhetorically, they keep signaling the opposite. Here is Dylan Matthews, also in Vox, expressing the emerging liberal consensus: “Personally, I think any center-left party worth its salt has to be deeply committed to egalitarianism, not just for people born in the U.S. but for everyone … It means treating people born outside the U.S. as equals … And it means a strong presumption in favor of open immigration.” Here’s Zack Beauchamp, a liberal friend of mine: “What if I told you that immigration restrictionism is and always has been racist?”
Dominic Russell
A friend to all is an ally to none. They did this to themselves
Jason Powell
and now workers will lose all rights
fuck spics and fuck (((centrists))), we need bernie
Nathan Allen
Wtf I love being equally poor as everyone
John Hill
yes, please go with bernie.
Samuel Hernandez
bernie would mop the floor with republicans
Landon Bailey
the fuck liberal shills in this thread
Jackson Long
Democrats just don't get it.
Jonathan Martin
Thanks Obama!
>Lind is right about the perverse politics of Obama’s centrism. He ramped up enforcement on the border and deportations … only to get nothing from the GOP in return. The right dismissed his toughness, while the left resented it. But it’s also true that Obama never truly bragged about his tough-on-illegal-immigrants stance, or campaigned on it, or emphasized it, when addressing the country as a whole. He couldn’t bring himself to boast about deportations, which is to his credit. But it’s hard to use tougher enforcement as leverage for a pathway to citizenship for those already here when you keep silent about it. The activist reaction — a rejection of most immigration enforcement or, with sanctuary cities, an open defiance of it — just makes this worse and renders a sane immigration compromise even more remote. Sure, the Latino activists are not the most to blame. The GOP base spent the last few years resisting any measure that could balance tougher border security and law enforcement with a path to citizenship. But when a glimmer of hope emerged recently with a potential Schumer-Pelosi-Trump deal on DACA, the Dreamer activists united with Stephen Miller to kill it.
Austin Jackson
>their rhetoric is very hard to distinguish from a belief in open borders.
That's because they're exactly the same thing. We all saw the signs saying "keep all 11 million" or whatever it was. The DACAs and their leftist friends already said they're in it together with every drug running, kidnapping, welfare-sapping illegal alien. So be it.
Ayden Rogers
How am I a shill? I'm literally saying that Dems have alienated damn near everyone in their pursuit of attempting to please everyone by lying and such. They have nobody to blame but themselves for the death of their party. Fuck them
Colton Fisher
Bernie will bankrupt and destroy us, he would truly be the death-knell of the western world.
Jeremiah Campbell
Because of the way you seem to moronically believe the side going "free speech and self defense and low taxes are important" is going to take away anyone's rights
Kevin Gonzalez
Democrats tried to start WW3 and destroy what's left of Liberty over a fake piss dossier they helped fabricate. The only ones left sticking up for these traitorous pieces of shit are those getting paid to do so. USA turned right thanks to your psychosis, democrats.
Logan Ross
>western world. good, judeo-christianity and its evil spawn liberalism need to die
Carter Bell
Bernie is hamstrung.
You will not be able to sell socialism easily after Venezuela crashes their country with no survivors. And that is going to happen before 2020.
Charles Rogers
>They have nobody to blame but themselves for the death of their party will people in cities stop voting for jews?
Jeremiah Price
Democrats man. Scum of the earth.
Charles Hernandez
Before he cuckolded out and bent over for Hillary he did lambast open borders as a Koch-aspiration. But I'd trust him as far as you can throw him.
Considering how weak and thin he is I guess you could throw him pretty far so maybe I should trust him as far as something else
Asher Young
>bernie would mop the floor with republicans bernie is jewish, certain groups are unable to win in the general in america and jews are one of those groups
Blake Walker
25% of millenials are socialist already
Wyatt Nguyen
No he wouldn't. But Jim Webb? He probably could.
Levi Bailey
I like webb a lot but he wouldn't get anywhere with democrats because he's a fucking white male, a veteran who killed communists, and he recognized the role that remembering the confederacy plays in Southern heritage.
They'd hate Webb as much as they hate trump.
Robert Edwards
that cuck would be btfo harder than mcgovern
Adam Johnson
Uhh what rights are those than actual citizens are going to lose? The right to handouts payed for by other citizens? The right to free abortion?
Oliver Watson
>need Bernie
Jordan Morgan
They either grow out of it or remain forever a child like Bernie Sanders.
Joshua Morales
Workers' rights, labour rights, the right to not starve to death so the (((kochs))) buy another limo
Adam Perry
Trump needs to really crack down on illegal voting on a federal level. This is the reason they pander to illegals, they get a hell of a lot of votes from them.
Samuel Price
>bernie >anti-religion >socialist gtfo faggot >in all fields
Nicholas Morgan
>the right to not starve to death
That's not a right, you have the right to starve, not demand that you be catered to by principle of existing.
Charles Jenkins
>You would think that parties of the center-left would grapple with this existential threat to their political viability. And some have. One reason Britain’s Labour Party has done well in the last couple of years is that it has recognized the legitimacy of the issue. During the Brexit referendum, their leader, Jeremy Corbyn, expressed ambivalence toward remaining in the EU, careful not to lose his working-class base to the Europhobic right, recognizing the fears so many of his own supporters had about the impact of mass immigration on their lives, jobs, and culture. Even someone as leftist as Corbyn chose to be a pragmatist, trying to gain power, rather than a purist who might otherwise condemn his own voters as deplorable. And this is one reason why I have dwindling hopes that the Democratic Party will be able to defeat Trump in 2020. Instead of adjusting to this new reality, and listening to the electorate, the Dems have moved ever farther to the left, and are controlled by ever-radicalizing activists. There’s a nuanced, smart — and shockingly honest — piece in Vox by Dara Lind about this. Money quote: >For Democrats, it’s been a simple calculus. Democrats’ attempts at “tough love” centrism didn’t win them any credit across the aisle, while an increasingly empowered immigrant-rights movement started calling them to task for the adverse consequences of enforcement policies. Democrats learned to ignore the critics on the right they couldn’t please, and embrace the critics on the left who they could.
Robert Clark
They committed political suicide in 2016 by running a completely un-electable corporate candidate with more baggage than Obama, Bush, and the last 10 Presidents combined and using the media and billions to blatantly spread fake information which people caught onto who will be aware of it next time around.
DNC is fucked. They where fucked back before November 8th.
Xavier Williams
t. ((( schlomo anonstein)))
Evan Rodriguez
Exactly. Webb might be able to challenge Trump. But he will never be able to run for the Democrats. There's a decent chance they'll drive him out of the party before 2020 anyway. It's a clubhouse with a "No Strate Wite Men" sign on the door now.
James Hughes
yeah, that's why he couldn't even win with democrats
William Rodriguez
>democrats rigged the vote
Hunter Taylor
>us goy should share, I deserve money no matter how much a burden I am >calling me the jew
Welcome to Sup Forums, be sure to check your employers manual on shilling so that you don't get exposed so easily and can pull off your work more effectively. Good luck have fun.
Kayden Taylor
>fuck other whiteys goyy, be individualist goooyyy
>not a jew
Alexander Peterson
Have you not learned anything from us Democrats?
Do you not realize fucktards what is going to happen if we do not embrace the Democratic's message of unity right now in these troubling times? I will let our next Native American President Elizabeth Warren tell you:
If you are not a shill you are plain fucking retarded. I mean, I'm think you have to be a shill, like nobody is this fucking stupid right?
You call others Jew and you literally shill for that cucked kike Sanders. You say to care about other whites but a) nobody knows for sure you are white and b) your people don't owe you by virtue of being your people YOU OWE THEM NIGGER.
Again, my instincts lean toward you being a shill, but if you truly are this fucking stupid you need to leave this place. It's not for you. try lefty Sup Forums.
Jayden Peterson
>your people don't owe you by virtue of being your people YOU OWE THEM NIGGER. and so they OWE THEIR PEOPLE
you gotta be retarded to write shit like this
Gavin Morris
>still has faith in bernie
That cocksucker sold you idiots out, and you still follow him around like a lost puppy. Pathetic faggots, the lot of you.
Jaxon Gomez
Get rid of the entire welfare state and then we can talk about open borders
Austin Miller
>Get rid of the entire welfare state yes goy, be like an african shithole
Easton Williams
Technically, illegals shouldn't even be voting so there's no reason to even pander to them. But even if they're illegal don't vote they're still counted in the census, so there's the real reason.
I just can't believe city liberals ALREADY struggling to pay rent want a bunch of illegals driving up the price further. Rent price is one of their top issues, yet they make it a priority to vote the polar opposite of the way they should.
