In a former thread someone mentioned that Mandalay Bay does not have a heli pad.
According to Mandalay Bay executive, they do have a heli pad but it hasn’t been used in years.
Doesn’t mean someone didn’t decide to use it on October 1
Vegas shooting - Mandalay Bay DOES have a heli pad
Ethan Young
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Jace Brooks
city-data.com
More info in the location of the heli port ontop of Mandalay Bay.
Matthew Baker
It keeps happening.
Adam Carter
Any aviation experts care to have a look at stats on this heli pad and give input on whether they think it could have been used?
The city data link says status is currently active.
Josiah Flores
Be careful with confusing Hacienda and Mandalay Bay. The old Hacienda hotel used to run its own junket planes/airline to bring guests in. Even though both were basically built in the same location, about 20 years separates the two.
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Brody Martinez
>OH MY GOD THEY COULD HAVE USED THE HELIPAD
where's the evidence that they did?
Angel Gray
Right, I knew Hacienda was no more, I just thought it was weird how in that article from 2016, a Mandalay Bay spokesperson said MGM execs had the heli pad installed but it wasn’t operational. She also said it was on the southwest wing of the Mandalay Bay which (I think) is the wing of the hotel shown on the map on city-data site. So city-data shows the heli pad is on the roof of Mandalay Bay and listing says its status is “operational”, also privately owned. Any thoughts on this?
Grayson Green
Flight radar thread last night proved it
Ethan Davis
flight radar archives.
Camden Brooks
Scrub to 41:50 and listen. m.youtube.com
Liam Diaz
Still on this Vegas shit? Jesus what the fuck is wrong with you people
Samuel Thompson
this happened in my town. Dude was drunk and took a turn to fast and hit a wall
Christian Bailey
We kinda have a thing for truth and justice here.
Caleb Ramirez
Also this. I know information was coming in like a large game of telephone that night but this girl says she was told shooters were on the ROOF of mb. Before or after that, she got a shot of these dudes suiting up to get into a helicopter in the background (or they just got out, who knows). Their vehicles have no license plates either. I read a theory that these guys are from the “battlefield Las Vegas” unit mentioned on the blotter that night. instagram.com
Sebastian Brown
Fuck off shill. People are working here.
Jack Gutierrez
Someone in the radar thread last night that there’s no way a helicopter landed on the roof because MB doesn’t have a heli pad, but the article I found and this city-data info seems to say otherwise. I’d like to hear what other people think.
It says the heli pad is privately owned, but I wonder how we go about finding the name of the owner. Maybe it’s owned by Four Seasons?
Christopher Thomas
Hahah ok let me know how that works out for you
Kayden King
I've literally never in my life encountered a news story more suspicious than the Las Vegas attack. It was the largest mass shooting on US civilians in history, it happened less than a month ago, and it has completely EXITED the news cycle. First Weinstein, now Manafort, people barely even remember that it happened in their worker's fugue state of daily media consumption and caffeine.
The official stories, unofficial stories, and absolutely bizarre coverage (seriously, whats up with the security guard) -- all lead me to conclude that there is an intentional effort to BURY this story as soon as humanly possible.
I can think of no reason why there would be an official effort to bury a mass murder, unless:
A) Americans really hate talking about guns SO much that we're willing to make this a normal thing. PLEASE JUST DONT MAKE US TALK ABOUT GUNS. (this is somewhat plausible)
B) The Las Vegas shooting has details that are intentionally being hidden from the public. This is also possible because of the conflicting stories, weirdness with the security guard, lack of information about the perpetrator, conflicting eyewitness testimonies, and general sketchyness that the whole fucking thing exudes.
Every time someone makes a thread to investigate this strange and VERY RECENT American tragedy on this forum, it is shilled harder than any other thread on the board. That alone should raise suspicion, especially when combined with what is essentially a media blackout. The official memo is "Let's move on."
Our official response is: Make us?
Mass shootings should be covered with more sincerity than bullshit political WWE indictments and DECADES OLD sex scandals.
Landon Green
So let's pretend you figure everything out, assuming there's something to figure out. Then what?
Noah Thomas
Then we bbb...blow up the galactic federation headquarters Mmorty!
Ethan Nguyen
You're alright, user
Justin Reyes
1) collect and organize all findings
2) present findings to documentary filmmaker, network, producer, etc.
3) make documentary
4) submit to film festival, pitch to any network that will air documentary
5) ???
6) profit
Have you ever watched a JFK conspiracy doc, or OJ Simpson, 9/11...
Jonathan Ramirez
the roof doesn't show one... i think this may be a dead end/distraction... I put the red arrow at towards the supposed helipad location, on the southwest corner.
Noah Walker
>There was a possible shooter on the helipad via live happening stream
>no word of it until now
Jheeze
Justin Lopez
HEY FELLOW WHITE MEN LET ME TELL YOU HOW THE JOOS DID THIS
Daniel Parker
>but muh conspiracy theory
I get a kick out of folks who think our government is capable of not only pulling this off but keeping a lid on it. Like keeping the hundreds it would take quiet is possible in the least. Faggots can't even pave a road on schedule.
Blake Morris
Any idea of what the dimensions of that square platform might be, near your arrow marker?
Lincoln Collins
WHAAA IT WAS JEWWS IT COOULD NOT BE A PURE WHITE AMERICAN
Angel Hall
LISTEN TO ME WHAA IM WHITE UNLIKE DA JOOS WHAA
Levi Lee
These Vegas sinners have been burning in Hellfire for about a month now...
I wonder just what they are thinking?!!!
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Xavier Jackson
.WHAAAYYYT IT COULLD NOT BE A WHITEE MAN LIKE ME A AMERICAN WHO IS 100% WHITE UNLIK MUHAMMAD
Samuel Lopez
Bump.
Elijah Howard
I think you marked the wrong spot. My fault though, I typed southwest but I meant southeast. The spokeswoman from the highlighted article in the photo said Southeast. This was in 2016. It looks like city-data had it marked in the southeast wing as well.
Matthew Torres
He thinks America is white
Lol
James Turner
...
Jeremiah Sanders
...
Owen Johnson
Also, the data for this heli pad says it’s FFS is in Reno. I have no idea was FFS means but maybe someone can give insight.
Also, does anyone know if a person needs a separate license to operate a helicopter? Or can someone with a pilot license who flies small, private planes ALSO fly a helicopter?
wasnt sure if it was the same as being required to get a motorcycle license or boat license or something like that, even if you’re licensed to drive a car.
Anthony Williams
>FFS
First Furson Shooter
Adam Richardson
...
William Green
heli on the ground, video still from the night of the shooting.
Jeremiah Bennett
heli spotted on oct 3 at local gas station
Nolan Diaz
his story
Juan Barnes
Hey thread,
How about some content in between the bread of this shill sandwich?
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summary: Jesus Campos is currently at an undisclosed location under the full control of MGMs legal and people teams. He is being shielded from the media. When he re-emerges from this cocoon, it would not be surprising if his responses to questions feel more refined and rehearsed.
Reminder: MGM CEO James Murren sold stock weeks prior to the attack.
Dominic Thomas
If he responds at all. On Ellen they said he’d never do another interview.
Still can’t believe they’re not explaining his Mexico hiatus.
Was the rental car he drove out of Mexico the same rental car Paddock drove to the Arizona/Mexico border a week prior to the shooting?? Anyone know of a way to find this out?
Samuel Collins
>casino.org
best part of this release is that schuck went on record multiple times saying that only he called it in.
Benjamin Lopez
The helicopter thing is so strange mainly because they’re being so sketchy about it.
And I still feel like there is a reason it landed on the roof. Like others said, people reported shooters on the roof. Shooting started about 10pm, police didn’t even locate the room until 10:18, room was not breached until 11:20. But helicopter landed on the roof at 10:30pm and then flies straight back to McCarren? Police dispatch says suspect on the helipad?
Seriously, why wouldn’t it have been possible for the shooters to have been on the roof the ENTIRE time. They staged the room and went up the stairwell to the roof and shot from there. The room was right next to the stairwell, for a reason. Stairwell doors were blocked to delay police from getting up to roof. Shooting stopped RIGHT BEFORE the helicopter shows up on the roof.
Chase Butler
>archive.is
unplanned extraction because of botched op.
or
backup plan, executed as expected out of necessity.
Jack Torres
You need a helicopter specific license.
Christopher Jenkins
according to airnav, the pad is at:
36.0916386 / -115.1744428
which puts it in the middle of the leg pointing SE.
Nathan King
and as i look at google's 3d map, there's no way you could land something on the arms, the edges of the roof are just bill-boards extending up the walls. if you were to put it down, i would expect you'd land on the central hub, where there's actual structure.
perhaps a super-hero-stunt-drop-a-line-and-clip-in-extraction could take place, but i don't think a land-and-board jobber.
Grayson Jenkins
If you can do some digging and find this it would be fucking amazing.
I saw this last night m.youtube.com
At another point in this video a cop says over the radio for someone to “please call my cell”. It was at a peak moment too. So there was some officer communication related to the incident that happened over a cell phone and not the radio, which means it will never be heard. Also fucked up.
Hudson Williams
It's obviously B. Information is intentionally being hidden from the public. The question is WHY?
The only possible explanations I can come up with are a .gov agency is somehow involved in the shooting or there are other parties involved that are still on the run and the FBI/LVMPD doesn't want the public to panic.
Jordan Morales
There isn't enough information to make truly educated guesses but here are some of my favorites based on conjecture:
-False flag operation "went wrong" in some way and now needs to not be a thing.
-Additional shooters seems possible simply due to the amount of damage that was caused.
-Casino owners orchestrate terror attack for financial gain
Maybe we'll find out shortly after they tell us the national-security-threat information from the JFK assassination.
Or more likely, we'll never find out and some bigger more tragic tragedy with even fishier loose ends will make this look like a normal every day American gun crime.
Nathaniel Cook
i think this is an intentional byproduct of the dumbed-down-short-attention-span cycle the msm pushes.
hype hype hype about one thing
hype hype hype about the next
continue
and eventually we'll come back to the first thing, but if we don't nobody will really notice.
Jayden Cox
the conflicting stories from schuck and campos tell us a great deal.
the fact that there was a brace on the door at the stairwell cannot be refuted, and it was an integral part of campos' story.
he claimed initially that he approached the door from the stairwell, but couldn't get through because it was braced. there are two doors there.
the alarmed door is the stairwell side, the braced door is the hallway side.
how would he know to approach from the stairwell side unless he'd been to the hallway side first?
the brace is in place to make investigators think that nobody could escape through the stairwell, but if schuck/campos attached it after someone escaped...
Jonathan Gutierrez
Yeah, I agree with what you’re saying. It really doesn’t look possible to land there. It’s just so strange to me that the spokeswoman said they had a heli pad and then city-data shows a heli pad in the southeast wing, validating what the spokeswoman said.
She said the heli pad was “installed”. What exactly is done when installing a heli pad? Im assuming they can be uninstalled as well...? Are they permanently attached to the structure or do they have some mobility? This is out of sheer curiosity. If that spokeswoman said there was a helipad there in 2016, could it have been removed over the last year?
And yeah, I’d say it’s also possible that the shooters were retrieved from the roof by a cable and then pulled up into the helicopter. That would make sense too.
Jackson Flores
and it's a very real possibility that google maps is behind a few years.
Charles Myers
There were thousands of people in the area so it really isn't that weird that a couple of them died.
Daniel Cook
I totally agree with you, it is strange.
I mean, it's not strange *that* they died, but it's strange *how* they died.
car arbitrarily hits the gate to their development, and burns with an intensity that the FD cannot extinguish for an hour? that's not normal.
good point.
Joseph Johnson
Why don't you take a nap. Your getting sleepy.
Noah Turner
Amazingly, a lot of people are still curious about how Kennedy was shot, too, you filthy rat.
Christopher Edwards
This is the first time in all my years that every single person I’ve spoken to IRL thinks the Vegas narrative being told is complete bull shit. I mean conservatives, liberals, young people, old people, people who never, ever pay attention or give a fuck about current events... every single one of them has said the story being told is a lie. Some people say it’s a full blown conspiracy and others think they’re being sketchy because of impending law suits. But regardless, they all see a coverup of some kind.
Some of these people I’ve talked to are people who have never, ever questioned a mass shooting before. They’ve believed the media’s narrative every time (Aurora, Boston, Sandy Hook, Pulse, etc).
To me, the Vegas will be a really unique moment in history. I feel like this is a real turning point or an awakening experience for some people. For the first time they are realizing that they can’t trust the government or what they’re being told.
Just because the media isn’t talking about it doesn’t mean people aren’t talking about it, outside of the internet.
Mason Bailey
You're being a little naive. The MSM decides what is in the news, not the people. The MSM doesn't give a shit about the people they are manipulating. The media made this go away because they received marching orders to make this go away.
2.5 years later we all know who Dylan Roof is but pic related did the same thing 6 weeks ago and basically nobody knows who he is. The media should be abolished. They are the #1 threat to our democracy. They aren't reporters, they are activists spreading propaganda. Independent journalists and crowd sourced news is the future. It's why ((they)) want to sensor it all. They're slowly losing the ability to control the narrative and they have to put a stop to it.
Dylan Gray
oh, i agree - but what i mean to say is, the media has a pre-built schedule which allows them to drop last week's news.
and why does everyone think it stinks?
because of a distinct lack of narrative.
we don't have a motive
we don't have a sensical timeline
we don't have an outspoken hero
we don't have any powerful tragic loss
there isn't any meat, and that doesn't make sense.
James Taylor
Did a thread on Vegas, it can be found here:
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Liam James
nigger even said it was revenge for Charleston
Robert Baker
And there are so many questions that they refuse to answer. The same very good questions are being asked by many different groups of people. It’s extremely frustrating.
And it’s frustrating that police will make a statement but then refuse to provide visual evidence of any kind to support that statement. Then they make a statement - like someone accessed his room with a key card after his car left the parking deck - but then retract that statement, and give no explanation or reason for WHY they retracted the fucking statement!
Or they will make a statement and a few days later an independent journalist digs up visual proof that completely contradicts their statement. And when confronted about it they duck dive dodge and disappear leaving us with even more questions. It’s so frustrating.
David Flores
and even the fringe reporters are throwing in half-truths and shouting about things that are misleading.
back to the main point - whether or not MB has a helipad, if the radar shows a 747 flying up to it, hovering over it, and heading back to McCarran, that's sketchy enough that i believe a helicopter extraction took place.
now to find all the helis that were there the day before and after, and maybe we'll know something new.
Asher Perry
>the CIA is responsible for paving the road
>what is compartmentalization
Landon Rodriguez
That’s where I’m stuck, what is the next step to look into these helicopters. Like the one seen on the ground the night of the shooting with the merc looking guys and the one on the ground at the gas station. Do helicopters have tail numbers?
Also the helicopters seen flying around the festival, people are saying those were tour helicopters, media, etc. Does that radar video show the helicopters ciricling around the fair grounds at that time and if so is there data that shows who was operating those helicopters?
Is there a way to match up helicopters seen in the videos with helicopters on the radar? I think we have timestamps somewhere of the videos showing helicopters circling during the shooting. If there are no helicopters shown on the radar above the fairgrounds at the same time helicopters are caught on video above the festival, what does that mean?
Elijah Harris
are flight logs at mccarran subject to foia requests?
maybe we can get airmen cecil and o'malley to testify about the contents of those logs.
Henry Hall
bubump.
any pilots or airport anons who can comment on how to obtain flight logs?
Nathaniel Peterson
If you listen to police scanner in this video m.youtube.com
Then go back to the first video with police scanner audio, fast forward to about 34:49, Officer says a unit of three armored cars, not offiliated with law enforcement, is coming from battlefield Las Vegas. Not sure what battlefield Las Vegas is or if these guys were in a helicopter too.
Then at 41:50 in this audio m.youtube.com
Jordan Moore
>Battlefield Vegas
It's a shooting range and a place where you can drive around Hum-vees and shit. They were just offering their help.
Joseph Ward
>battlefield Las Vegas
Jason Powell
I would assume the logs would be subject to FOIA, but I’ve never made an FOIA request and I wonder if they have a right to refuse your request depending on reason for making the request?
I wonder if the tour helicopters have their schedules posted, like blocks of times when they fly? Like, if you wanted to a book a tour you’d be given a chart showing time slots to choose from and then you show up at that time for your tour? And I’m guessing the tour helicopters operate out of McCarren, or theyre requires to communicate with ATF there, correct? I’m clearly no aviation expert but I’m curious if there are logs or records that are publicly available right now, without having to make a FOIA request...?
Ethan Morgan
good catch - that all makes sense.
"just" offering their help?
how were the armored cars used, do we know?
Dylan Cruz
Does any of the info given here look useful? Its a forum with people talking about helicopter flight log requirements for civilian and military helicopters
helicopterforum.verticalreference.com
Christopher Harris
I haven't listened to the radio scanner in a while but I believe there was something about the vehicles being available at the corner of Russel and Sinatra and they were told to head to the LVMPD southern post. I remember this was looked into right after the shooting and it was nothing.
Jack Garcia
didn't the swat team land on the roof?
Carter Reyes
I don’t believe so, I think I remember police scanner say they were coming up the stairwell and were going to let them know before coming through the door to avoid a “blue-on-blue”
If you have a source showing swat landed on the roof please find and post it