What is Sup Forums's opinion on catalan independence? What do you think are the geopolitical reasons behind it?

What is Sup Forums's opinion on catalan independence? What do you think are the geopolitical reasons behind it?

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Soros wants to sell cannabis openly. Dude weed lmao.

This is essentially the Quebec/Canada sitatuion only both sides are stupid about it

Spain would have most of the world on its side if it didnt have to send in the fucking dogs and military every 2 weeks

A region of Spain with history and culture distinct from the rest of that country has been operating with some autonomy. Now they just want full autonomy, as they do not wish to be held accountable by people outside of their region of the country.
Modern-day spain was shaped by the
reconquistadors who took the region back from muslim invaders, during which time the area in question now was operating as the Kingdom of Aragon (1100's-1200's). So it's an attempt to recapture their historical power and identity that they feel is being lost by being part of Spain.
Or something.

Is a tax thing, they want the same deal as the Basques, they lost that 200 years ago because they fight the wrong king, now they are pissed because they have to pay for the naps of the rest of the country

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Only this? There's no economic interest of any outsiders in Catalonia being independent - or in de-stabilizing Spain? And how is the whole thing seen from the rest of Europe?

Hi, Im Sup Forums, I think Catalonians should be gassed.
¡Viva Franco y Viva España!

How silly there are always international interests, by unknown people

Yeah, that's why I'm asking pol to provide a full-fledged theory about that

I don't know what they expected, since it was obvious from the moment the first independence last 8 seconds that everything was doomed to fail spectacularly with such "leaders" who started all this shit in the first place just to get more money.
Now I wonder if there will be some angry people who will arm themselves, or some new independent leaders from the crowd who will push things further.
Also, rip Puigdemont&co. There's too many people from both sides who what you all dead.

Catalonians deserve it, fascist spaniards from castille always tried to destroy their culture and language, Catalonians were oppresed. They want self government and that's alright.
There is no Spain without Catalonia, but there is Caltaonia without Spain.

(((They))) are freaking out.

But Quebec is poor.

Jews and Soros money flooded the catalan officials buying them off, this is known.

Goal to break up EU countries into smaller nation states so the jews can easier take over their banking and create a jewish one world order.

Keep in mind lets say spain has a bank not run by jews, and the jews are going to go to war to destroy it like they are marching americans to die in North Korea so the jews can take over their banking and media like they did in south korea.

the thing is the Basques are a real thing who deserve recognition due to their singularity, catalonia was never a country and got annexed thanks to marriage between kingdoms.

>inb4 catacuck user starts posting fake history shit like he always does trying to convince dumbfucks.


also.... AÚPA ATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares desu

Nothing of what you said makes sense. Why would the EU want to break up countries that it already controls?

Those are perfect

DO WANT MORE

>What do you think are the geopolitical reasons behind it?

It's being funded by leftists and globalists to act as a giant landing zone for Muslim invaders.

Catalonia is controlled by leftists cucks who will let sandniggers flood-in unrestricted, and the elites know this.

It's all bullshit.

Catalonia will just be a giant funnel for Arabs pouring into Europe; and the elite globalists love it.

I think I'll need something else other than your illogical words.

>There's no economic interest of any outsiders in Catalonia being independent

see: Catalonia will be a gateway for tons of Arab/nigger cheap labor and socialist votes.

she is ok, too young when that shit came out... wonder what she looks like now.

catalonians are the heirs of aragon, arent they?

>posting the same macros over and over again
dont hide your true flag gabriel, show the spanish flag with pride

Just use you head. Since when does the (((EU))) ever get butthurt by leftist movements? They shitted themselves when FPO in Austria was about to win the President chair, so they sent-in a bunch of (((mail-in votes))) at the last minute for the Green Party faggot.

They also shat themselves when AFD got 0% of Parliament in Germany.

They spent tons of shekels trying to thwart white nationalist movements.

The Catalonia movement is literally led by Marxists who were butthurt by Franco, and all the pro-Catalonia rallies had tons of communist and "refugees welcome! XDDD" imagery everywhere.

Catalonia will open its borders to shitskins, who will flood into Spain, France, Austria, and Italy like a great plague. Mark my fucking words, faggot.

*10% of Parliament*

> comparing quebec/canada to catalan/spain just like that

burger education indeed

It's pretty obvious with a cursory investigation. Spain swallowed the crock of shit known as green-energy, which destroyed 4 jobs for every 1 it created. This in turn bankrupted the whole Spanish government and now instead of being leeched to death by corrupt politicians in Madrid, Catalonia is saying (and rightfully so) good-fucking bye to the rest of their retarded Spanish counterparts. Fully support this.

everyone who supports catalonia has HIV

are you too stupid to follow the news rabbi?

Can someone speak or write Catalan?

What am I talking about.. there is no Catalan identity than there is a Catalan language because all the slogans and supports are English.

So is Spain.

Catalonia are even bigger commie liberal idiots than the rest of Spain.

What part of this can't you retards understand?

Catalonia was literally the epicenter for the commie/anarchist during the Spanish Civil War. Goddamn, you fucktards don't know shit about Realpolitik or keeping white nations safe from sandniggers.

The Languedoc deserves to be a country more than Catalonia

>im on the the Unionist side
>*watchs some police doing their job on the bbc*
>OH MEN WTF, IM SHAKING RING NOW, THIS CANT BE TRUE, SPAIN IS FASCIST, VISCA CATALUNYA.

Fuck off, only the turbofaggots changes their mind for that, if you do illegal shit the law will punish you.

>Inb4 b-but they were just voting!
Nobody was "hurted" for vote, the people punished by the police was the people who was blocking them, blocking the law.

>all the slogans and supports are English

Paid for by globalist shekels. It's a fake movement to divide Spain and create a sandnigger infiltration zone.

Retard

It's been Spanish for 500 years. The states have more of a claim to being unique.

Not gonna mean much considering Catalonia is currently a non-state vilified by the EU. Do you actually think the EU wants even the idea of independent states that don't universally fall in line? Commie or not having states increasingly weakening the idea of the EU and separating is the polar opposite of their goal

Any Spanish anons have that map that shows the party majority by voting district?

Basically, it shows that Catalonia was leftist as fuck.

you are lucky. You have very pretty women to enjoy. I guarantee you she is still very pretty.

We have fat tattooed peopleofwalmart skanks to look at and we are supposed to think "they are beautiful".

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>Andrew Davis
>very Catalan name

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Mmm.. really makes you think

no sympathy for commies

Yes I'm using my head and that's why I don't understand your point of view. The EU has been saying over and over again how they are against the independence of Catalonia because it would cause more regions to secede and that will destabilize the EU and possible destroy it. Meanwhile your argument is that I have to believe you saying that Catalonia is led by marxists and will open its borders to shitskins. Can't you get any more stupid? I'm on a PC you know, I can check info if I want.

>p-please try to confirm my biases as i wear the flag of Dixiecrats

Depends, is catanolia the commiefornia of Spain or is it more like Quebec? Is it more or less degenerate than average?

What news? Last time I checked Spain was still in the EU.

another business goes out of catalonia every time a catalonian says that.

Doesn't matter, it's all over. Weak willed cucks with no plan submitted to superior Spanish masters.

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She was17yo in that video, she went with a fake id card and was recorded by Torbe

>spaniards from castille always tried to destroy their culture and language
Spain recognize and protect the culture and language of catalonia.

>Catalonians were oppresed
can you explain that?

also, how are your holidays in Germany Jordi?

Sup Forums is full of retarded larpers that still think Spain is Francoist in anything but Catalans while simultaneously ignoring the growing right movements in Catalonia that are leading to such a pushback against the EU

>growing right movements
Top kek Podemos ERC and CUP are what are growing there, show location flag or leave because you know nothing about Catalonia

It's been a complete flop, their government declares independence, has no army to back it up so flees the country, and nothing has changed. I thought they would have least armed the Mossos and shot it out or something.

Literally special snowflakes crying about wanting even more special snowflake treatment than they already have compared to everyone else in Spain.

Helps breaking EU and bipartidism. Most Spaniards on Sup Forums are just Francoist goyim shilling against it.

Torbe is one creepy mofo

A destabilized Europe makes one person and regime happy.

Globalisation is winning, national identities which are artificial rather than tribal are coming under intense pressure. Artificial national identities are most of Europe - which have one lead culture and usually smaller hanger-on cultures;

The UK(Scotland, Wales, Scots-Irish), France (Burgundy, Brittany, Aquitaine, Provence, Savoy), Germany (literally hundreds of states), Belgium (Flemish and Walloons), Spain (Basque, Catalans), Italy (Northern League, Veneto, Piedmont).

Formally the EU hasn't acknowledged this yet but this is ultimately good for a globalist bloc like itself. Smaller, geopolitically weaker states without their own agendas are easier to push around, whichever country in Europe is able to resist balkanisation to the greatest extent in the next 50 years will inherit the leadership of Europe.

The USA is a product of philosophy, not history, so these shifts will affect it less, as it still has a fairly strong core national identity, but that national identity is itself a battleground.

>Sup Forums
All the Spaniards are Francoist!
>FB
All francoist!
>Twitter
All francoist!
>The government
All of them are francoist
>Laws
Francoist too!
>Police
Francoist too
>Constitution
Francooist!
>Some commie who is not in your lvl of austi... commie spectrum
Francoist!
>Someone who dosnt have the same opinion
EXTRAFRANCOIST!
>You breath
francoist!

All the fucking world is francoist! You guys have a several obsession... Franco would be so pround, you talk more of him now than when he lived.

Catalans do not deserve independence.

CATALONIA IS SPAIN!!!!!

>durrr look at me i read Wikipedia definitions

>Be catalonia
>Have no army
Why doesn't spain or france just invade?

>sign is in english

They are sending armed forces now because they refrained from doing so when indoctrination started in Catalonia 30 something years ago.
Look where not sending military landed us.

They cry and think that a few policemens are the apocalypse and the maximum representation of the fascism. Just imagine what would happen with that escenario where the army act in catalonya.