What is the end game of capitalism?

What is the end game of capitalism?

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Make money.

aristocracy

There is no endgame. It's merely assurance that those with resources have the freedom to use them as they see fit.

He always has the choice to start his own business if his ideas are so spectacular

What a good class cuck.

This but unironically

>truck driver making €15/hr
>just start your own business bro

Imagine being this retarded

He could always take a loan

Make more money.

Allow place like Sup Forums to exist.

>Ever helping the corps
Mark learned his lesson that day

I don't think that Sup Forums is profitable. It runs on pure autism

Enslaving 99% of humanity

Back to Hiro.
But Imageboards would not be allowed in another economic system. Just looks what Putin is doing with 2ch.hk.

efficient distribution of goods and resources based on relative risk and labor

>efficient
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

> another economic system
> Just looks what Putin is doing
Russia is Capitalist

> Obama turned USA socialist
> Sweden is socialist
> Russia and China are free market capitalist states though

Whew.

capcucks would defend this

>Imageboards would not be allowed in another economic system
>Russia is socialist

I want to live in the world rightists believe we are in.

With a lot of state control. Instead, try to control everything, the new fascists/commies just will try control the keypoints of society/economy.

State in Russia is just another economical subject with zero care for society
t.Russian

This seems like it would be better if Stingy was Russia and the middle panel was replaced with Napoleon.

>Russia is socialist
Russia had a lot of central planning in question like the internet, /leaftypol/. They aren't socialist but the government had their two foots on internet regulation.

Imagine being this gullible

>socialism is when the government does things

I too remember the days of Comrade Reagan.

To bring economic and social development to the world via the free market.

Pics like these are retarded. If those things defined socialism then Hong Kong and Singapore would be socialist aswell, and yet that's probably the farthest from the truth you can get.

>to colonize, coup and bomb other countries for their raw materials and markets to integrate them into the world capitalist system

Every system do that.

>socialism
>public ownership
whew lad, any more faith and you might turn christian

>tuo quo que

Just as long as you admit you can’t claim the moral high ground with crapitalism.

>national (((socialism)))
kys

>but my system is the best because its the current one which means I dont have to do anything

good goy.

>you’re either communist or crapitalist

End yourself you rootless cosmopolitan

Why not? Millions of other people did it.

I can assure you if you have no idea what you’re doing, didn’t assess the risks, or just had bad luck, it will fucking ruin you.

It absolutely is a bad, bad idea to have your own business nowadays for the majority of people who do not have a financial windfall.

We need economic growth because population is always growing dummy.

If population growth is faster than economic growth, we get poorer.

>hurr durr everyone should become a ceo

t. basement dwelling Tea Partier who’s parents pay for everything

>population growth
>good

>starting a business
>on this day and age

It's the easiest time in history to start a business.

If you fail, you will never starve - you'll always have the welfare system to help (if you're European).

Population growth is a fact of life which we have to deal with. No point trying to stop people having kids.

A tame, subdued, rodent-like consumerist population to piddle their products to, all gathered into mega-cities so they can look down on them from through the smog from their cloud homes while they live in unimaginable luxury and indulge their multifarious vices in the infinite pleasures their wealth opens up for them.

Socialism

>if you're European
Well there is your problem. Even the welfare system is being torn apart

increasing the production of pointless consumer goods ad infinitum

pollution i guess

Everyone working towards their own self interest without infringing upon the rights of others.

Are you retarded? We have effectively cut down population growth in the developed world, and the same will happen in the developing world eventually.

reminder

Capitalism means amassing of wealth. So the end goal is basically amass the wealth and concentrate it to top few.

Why would somone who does not own any property support a property based system? What is the "self interest" in that case?
>uuuh he can just tstart a cumpani!
And who decides these rights?
>like omg rights are le natural user!

>Why would somone who does not own any property support a property based system? What is the "self interest" in that case?
Why hasn't the propertyless portion of the world population just murdered the rich and taken all of their stuff then if that is what is truly in their best self-interest? Oh right, because most people believe that theft and murder is wrong and someone having something you do not is usually not grounds to break the basic moral grounds of society.
>And who decides these rights?
Culturally accepted norms of ownership, typically meaning that if you worked for it, traded for it or it was produced with your property by someone you payed to make it then it is yours.

The Wire understood this years ago:

youtube.com/watch?v=xyg_v7Vxo4A

i Cant even decipher any real argument in your rambling. What are you trying to say?

You missed the part where the government conducts most fusion research, and no one goes after a cure for cancer be side it’s more profitable to keep pushing drugs.

>ancaps unironically believe (((capitalists))) will do things like research fusion

>Why hasn't the propertyless portion of the world population just murdered the rich and taken all of their stuff then if that is what is truly in their best self-interest?
Because they have police and military against them. They have tried many times though. I guess history is not needed when you are an ancap. Because people have never murdered other people for resources. never ever ever!
>Culturally accepted norms
Go to a project area and see how much these yuppie norms apply there. Stop living in a fucking bubble and face the fact that without a state to enforce these rights, capitalism is fucked.

How retarded must you be to actually believe your ideal utopia is something shared by everyone?

whose*

Why would you invest in something the government is already pouring money into?

When we expropriated your assets in Russia, China, Korea, Cuba, Eastern Europe etc you chimped out and invaded us. Same like in 1789.

Feels good knowing we can keep voting ourselves welfare at the expense of the 1% ;^)

>capitalism will give us fusion guys!
>oh nvm, looks like they’ll let the government do the heavy lifting and then try to profit somehow

Goddamnit as I told you then when you made that stupid picture I will tell you now, your retarded picture doesn't refute that quote because these businessmen are still trying to maximize profits by investing and reinvesting those dividends. Whether or not reality ensures they get the maximum profits is irrelevant to their desire to seek it, just as how anti-cancer measures existing doesn't suddenly stop cancer cells from wanting to multiply.

It's why the people who sold the farm to move to the city were chumps in the end. In the end it will come to land-owners and the landless. When profit goes away and innovation no longer drives the economy and work gets automated, it will be tradition triumphing over revolution.

But Stallman was fucking right, Sup Forumstard.

>believing people voluntarily went to work in the factories

The mistake which is being made by these posters is (forgive the run-on sentence, I'll try to parse it with commas) the tacit assumption, that there is a floor for starting capital/front money/start-up money, in order to get a business of the ground. Basically they're not considering very small businesses, side-hustles, lemonade stands, that type of thing. They basically only think of something which requires 50K/100K/500K/[insert arbitrary large floor number here] as being "the real businesses" and disregard all smaller economic activity.

>hurr-derp-durr u can't live on that our point stands

No it doesn't, because you can start a side hustle while you're wagecucking, and work on the side hustle until it hits critical mass at which point you flip over into your own business. How do you think any business anywhere ever, ever got started.

I like the Wire clip though.

you can't be this retarded right?

saged

>lemonade stands

are you 12?

>cant sage nor make arguments

Nigga you never heard of enclosure?

>haha bro yeah we seized your land get fucked hey btw there’s a job in the city

>sold the farm to move to the city

People wanted to leave fresh air, fresh food, their own property, to work 16 hours/per day, on unhealthy conditions, to eat shit, and the thrill of losing a hand in an unsafe factory.

In ancap bizzaro world, there is only two ways things can go down. Either someone is coming home to you and puts a gun to your head forcing you, and if that hasnt happened, it is a voluntary transaction

Capitalism has no endgame. It just endlessly generates capital at the cost of everything else. Perfect capitalism would be machines making more advanced machines that make machines.

I like this illustration

>Capitalism
>cure for cancer

thats why you wont be on top in the end game

>Because they have police and military against them. They have tried many times though. I guess history is not needed when you are an ancap. Because people have never murdered other people for resources. never ever ever!
I guess the same can be said about the average chinese student and wanting to have a say in what their time and money goes towards rather than just relying strictly on the communist party to throw it all away, but hey, those filthy pigletts where asking to be gunned down in the streets by a govenment that was supposedly run by the people. Nobody has EVER tried to flee those perfect socialist societies because they where obviously so much more efficient economically and actually based their laws on human rights rather than strictly enforcing the will of a tiny minority of the actual population like in capitalist ones. IF you dare say otherwise you have obviously been reading too much porky propaganda and need to read a fucking book preferably by some obscure european man who has little to no accreditation to his name and doesn't have a degree related to any of the books he has written. WAKE UP PEOPLE, THE "MAN" IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, i TELL YOU TO CONFORM TO MY VIEW ON HOW THE WORLD SHOULD BE RUN BECAUSE I AM AN EXPERT ON THE SUBJECT.[spoiler]See, I can shitpost loudly too[/spoiler]

Nobody said it'd be cheap

weird, never heard about this happening in history class.
So, this occurred thousands and thousands of times to millions of people?
How did they get away with it? That seems worse than the holocaust
what's really crazy is how much money they were making on the farms.
Modern day equivalence puts the average old timey farmer at a net worth of 1 mil GBPs.
Meanwhile the average factory worker made an equivalent of only$3 a day. (yes that's including inflation)

Not him, but I believe he was using a lemonade stand as a relatable metaphor for small buisnesses.

>well bad stuff happens in every society so there

You didn’t actually refute his points muppet. Back to Koch Bros Shill Academy for you.

>metaphor
No. is were /biz actually invest all of their bitcoins.

>Bad stuff that happens in capitalism is worse than bad stuff that happens in socialism
^this is the crux of your argument, just so you know.

Actually, yes. In case you want to read (I know you won’t).

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure

Where do you think the initial capital in capitalism comes from? Ever hear of the Atlantic slave trade?

>weird, never heard about this happening in history class.

Still believing the official history version. You are so cute.

>en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure
>one country
That settles it. That's why my ancestors came here from China.

The greater the struggle, the greater the triumph

Or you can be just a little bitch, like you, coming up with excuses

>implying it was just one country

You need to read up on agriculture in imperial China. What do you think happened in every feudal society? In japan the samurai went from being landowners to factory owners in one generation.

So how’s your company doing? It’s so easy and you know so much why are you on /his/?

How is your Revolution coming? If it is the logical thing to do and all the workers are so obviously with you on this, why are YOU on /his/ rather than crushing capitalism once and for all?

>So how’s your company doing? It’s so easy and you know so much why are you on /his/?

Completely irrelevant, brainlet.

I didn't say it was easy, its a huge struggle and many people fail.

My point wasn't that it was easy, only that it's very hard and that difficulty makes the success even greater

Ok, so just more feel good propaganda for the goyim.

Communism is the inevitable outgrowth of capitalism. It will happen with or without human acceleration.

>propaganda

Nice mind trick you've programmed into yourself. Your words read hollow, do you actually believe them?

>dude like anyone can start a business and compete with multinational corporations

Do you actually believe YOUR words?

So you just talk the talk but not walk the walk?

>Do you actually believe YOUR words?

Yes, lots of businesses start small and from humble origins, Bezos(Amazon) was selling books in his Garage. He could have said to himself "Walmart is so big and powerful, how could I ever compete with a multi billion dollar company?" and never started in the first place.

If you guys want to have fun, ask socialists here or elsewhere why economists aren't socialists. Then enjoy the great number of flat earth-tier explanations that they throw at you.

>So you just talk the talk but not walk the walk?

Who said I wasn't?

I think the uncomfortable truth for everybody is that capitalism creates growth but socialism prevents revolutions.