Why haven't you joined the Socialist Rifle Association?

Well? What are you? Some kind of Trump-supporting capitalist? The 2nd amendment and gun rights don't belong to Republicans.

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Depends on what kind of socialist it is user

It doesn't matter. Capitalism is failing us. Republicans are failing us. Everyone should be armed.

>Why haven't you joined the Socialist Rifle Association?
because I am not a faggot whos ideology fails as hard and even more often as shillarys presidential campaign
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I'm straight

This a fucking retarded thread saged commie

Because I prefer feudalism, pleb. Socialism is for the filth.

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Im not, and I still dont want to join them

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This.

It got us though the dark ages once, it will do it again.

SERF LIFE!

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theres another way user

Monarchy forever! Obey your king!

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>meme ideology

>Some kind of Trump-supporting capitalist?
Please stop acting like Communisim isn't the worst option possible.
I'll just keep my guns and shoot whoever tries to take them, regardless of political affiliation.

This post so much. Politics is about as useful as rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. left vs right is basically big government vs big corporation

Capitalism is no longer effective. It needs to be significantly changed or replaced. Wages are stagnating, prices are going up, Trump's tax plan only helps the rich, and there are Republican traitor fudds. Technology is going to bring more automation and more unemployment. Some form of socialism will inevitably come about.

If this means that the left starts supporting the 2A, I'm fucking game. The 2A should transcend petty party politics.

>Wages are stagnating, prices are going up
get rid of minorities (especially latinos) and problem solved

As long as the left is controlled by larping commies and liberals aka neo-trotskyists that will never happen

Not being a Capitalist in this day and age is like being a Flat Earther.

t. fascist
Whites are just as affected by capitalist corruption.

Not an argument.

>Capitalism is no longer effective. It needs to be significantly changed or replaced. Wages are stagnating, prices are going up,

the problems you attribute to capitalism are actually because of government distorting the market, the solution to that is not more government.

Define socialism in this case. I figure the eventual model that will emerge will be like a mix of socialism and capitalism. I guess you could call it "soft socialism".

>revolutionary socialist calling fascism a meme
you're both retarded, t. imperialist

I disagree. Employers only care about making profit and reducing costs. Removing government regulations only fuels more capitalist greed.

I don't know. But I do hope that if socialism takes over, it's nonviolent (aka evolutionary socialism).

>Not an argument.
True, it's not an argument. It's an assertion that Socialists believe in fallacious logic. Which they do.

Want to have an argument? Let's have an argument. You be white, I'll play black. Your move.

>Capitalism is failing us
>I'm a first generation immigrant who worked hard in college, went to dental school, opened a small business and makes 250k a year
Stop being poor.

OP how much formal education in economics do you have?

But what if I'm a fascist?

Communism is inherently totalitarian, since all resources are directed to a governing force that distributes it even in the purest form. So when leftists want guns, they want it for THEIR revolution, and once power is secured they seek to disarm the people so their power can be maintained. Don't believe their lies.

(((Capitalism)))) is failing us.

The "republicans" are just a sprinkle more morally strong and more honest about who buys their interest. Trump is going to absolutely gas them this midterm - why do you think Obama care repeal failed for the republicans three times?

>why do you think Obama care repeal failed for the republicans three times?
the jews

I'm actually not poor. I make $85k a year as a Linux systems administrator.

Probably not as much as you. However, you don't need a PhD to see that capitalism is declining.

Communism is not socialism and it is not inherently totalitarian. History does show us that communist systems lead to that (e.g. Stalin and Mao), but it's possibly to avoid those paths. I fucking hate Stalin and Mao btw. And not all socialists believe in violent revolution to seize the state or nation. There are peaceful methods such as elections. Even still, the working class should always be armed.

>why do you think Obama care repeal failed for the republicans three times?
Because the Republicans can't agree with each other on anything. I sense a lot of infighting within the Republican party. The old guard, like McCain, fucking hates the new greenhorns, like Ryan.

>Probably not as much as you.
It was just an innocent question, no need to get defensive. I actually want to know how much formal education in economics that you have.
>However, you don't need a PhD to see that capitalism is declining.
How so? Where is your evidence of decline and what is it declining from?

you are a raging faggot and your ideology is flaming garbage, also I bet you are jewish

>but it's possibly to avoid those paths.

Historically, no.

>And not all socialists believe in violent revolution to seize the state or nation. There are peaceful methods such as elections.
Marx would hate you. He HATED the "peaceful revolution" socialists. He wanted some blood in the streets and fire in the sky.

The dude was loony desu.

>t. Imperialist
Why not get in on that sweet sweet lebensraum user?

Marx got one thing right

Armed populace a good

THE ONE THING MARX IS RIGHT ABOUT, THE COMMIES REJECT

Sorry. I didn't mean to seem defensive. I've only taken a couple macroeconomics classes at a 4 year university.

- rising tuition rates (time.com/4472261/college-cost-history/)
- increasing grocery store and super market prices (look at your receipts from the past few years)
- wage stagnation (epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/)

(You)

There's a first time for everything.

There's nothing wrong with disagreeing.

It's a shame.

>democracy is inherently socialist
its a shit system but not socialist desu
>niggers shodnt have guns
they shouldnt even be here
>freedom leads to degeneracy
seeing as how lolberts are massive degens, this is true

Because I'm not stupid and/or insane.

Fuck socialism.

we must secure our cobalt supplies in the Congo under the guise of humanitarian aide leading to the creation of a western puppet state

Fascism lost in 1945. Get over it.

You should try having a more open mind. Look at all sides.

it's kinda sad you guys are actually falling for this garbage troll, no self respecting socialist would actually be ranting about Trump so much instead of calling the whole democrat/republican dichotomy a bunch of lies made to keep the people in chains.

I'm pretty far to the left (except on the topic of Islam, where I would make ca. 1993 Serbs say "whoa chill out buddy") and if I had 2 bullets and was in a room with Trump and Hillary, I'd double tap her, just to be sure. There's something plain uh... demonic about liberals, like they are the actual fucking embodiment of evil, where most republicans are just maybe a bit misguided on some topics but have their hearts in a right-er place.

This is true, but socialism is not the answer. Its like trading your truck for a motorcycle when what you really needed was an engine rebuild. What society, at least in the US, needs is for all the existing politicians, lawyers, judges, and government employees to die, all the money and all the debts to be erased, and all existing laws except for the constitution to be repealed then replaced with new ones. The US constitution (with the bill of rights and electoral college reform added in as articles) is fine, although it needs congressional term limits and voting done by family instead of by individual.

Sounds extreme, but society has more parts than a car.

I did. I used to be a lefty socialist-supporter.

Socialism lost in 1991. Get over it.

>b-but it still existed in other countries
So did fascism, dingus. Do you think Franco left in 1945? What about Chile or Argentina?

Hear, hear!

>There's a first time for everything.
No, because once you get communism to keep it requires a suppression of the free market, which at its base is the trading of goods or goods for services within a community.

And you cant stop that without the threat of violence.

Government regulation introduces compliance costs to businesses. Economics of scale means that small businesses are hit harder by compliance costs than large businesses. Big business always lobbies for MORE regulation because it crushes the smallest competitors first.

The only socialism is tolerate is libertarian socialism. At least they have some grasp of respecting personal freedom and liberties.
Plain Jane socialism? Fuck no I like being able to eat.

No it doesnt. Socialists only support gun rights until they're in power

Commies get fucked

>You should try having a more open mind.
>Fascism lost in 1945. Get over it.

Maybe you should have a more open mind.

Fascism promotes racism. No thanks.

>1945
>not knowing Fascism lived on until 1974-1975 (depends if you consider Franco a fascist)
You should also have an open mind and study fascism

>>lol muh helicopter memes

Pinochet was a puppet of the global liberal elite that only seek to destroy national unity and culture for increased profits, fuck right off

>and voting done by family instead of by individual.

Out of all the dumb unachiveable things you posted, this is the dumbest. Think about the problems with this. Think about how this would go against the very ideal you are trying to achieve. Think about who wins.

You need to game out the ideas the "good idea fariy" puts in your head befor going with it.

I was hinting at National Socialism but thats not even Socialism lel

>having problems with racism

Why dont you have a more open mind user?

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He’s a bottom of the barrel commie, nothing new

The only ones worth talking to are Nazbols

So you are completely unwilling to look at both sides of the racism issue? Why do you hold others to ideals that you don't hold yourself to?

For example, what is "racism"?

Actual Nazis look down on non-whites. There's no tippy-toeing around this issue. It's just wrong. What is there to argue about this?

Link a cute. CUTE

>I'm actually not poor
Than why the fuck do you dare speak on behalf of those you are.

>Linux systems administrator
lmao
As a guy who actually works, fuck off, we're full, and we don't want you attempting to """"solve"""" problems for us that we don't have

>Socialism lost in 1991. Get over it.
Not really.

Any sort of nationalism or even just looking out for your own people before others promotes racism. Civc nationalism doesn't work because it permits constantly changing demographics as whatever countries are cheapest to import labor from change and everyone who was there is going to be upset about that, because there's going to be less of themselves and more of these foreigners who will act and vote differently and make it harder to be a native because your idea of what being a native of your country means can only bend so much. You'll always be at odds with each other over something.

In other words, any policies short of open borders and agressive race mixing and taking culture from a comittee promote racism. Facism, as you define it, is just one of several possible systens that just allow people to acknowledge their own racism that everyone has.

Now now, we are talking about racism, not just a single facet of racism.

>What is there to argue about this?
For example, true racists believe in the inferiority of another race. So if that racists takes what he believes as pity on the other race and gives members of that race opportunities they otherwise would not have, is that a negative and why?

>it's just wrong.
You cant just state, its bad because its bad, that is children tier thinking. WHY is it bad.

They wouldn't be allowed to own rifles under socialism :^)

Actually they just hated Juden
They did not like Slavs.
They were actually fine with blacks, it was better to live in Nazi Germany as a black than America as a black at the time

>Than why the fuck do you dare speak on behalf of those you are.
I'm speaking on behalf of the average person, not just the poor. The middle class is shrinking and the rich are just exploiting us more and more.

>lmao
>As a guy who actually works, fuck off, we're full, and we don't want you attempting to """"solve"""" problems for us that we don't have
Every major website or application for commercial, scientific, and military purposes uses Linux. Netflix? Powered by Linux and FreeBSD.

Have fun patching Wangblows systems.

The notion of rights existing in a socialist society is a incongruity. Rights are the antithesis of socialism.

>the fascism is national socialism meme
Can this die? Fascism recognizes race, but every prominent fascist promoted the cooperation of each race within a nation for the good of the whole nation.

National Socialists were the only ones who had racial purity as a top priority.

The knuckle draggers on this forum can only spout debunked bullshit about the USSR and helicopter memes because they don't read books, op.

They're good at doing Porky's bidding while blaming minorities just like they want them to, being "radically unique" while upholding the status quo

I'm not saying Linux is bad, I'm saying you don't work. Be realistic, unless you are retarded, you can automate your job within the first week.
But since you are a socialist I dunno...

t. actually runs Linux on all my machines, have several servers and can program in many languages.

that's the weirdest thing about racism to me. Let's assume for a second that they succeed, eliminate all the non-whites, what happens next? Do they create an all white utopia or do they start going for other whites? After all the Italians are a bit swarthier than the good, pure nordic europeans, and we can most likely fudge a few studies about IQ that puts them as lower than average. So off they go too, and while we are at it, let's get rid of the portuguese and spaniards too. I guess we can also get rid of the eastern europeans, after all they are a bit too slavic. And the french are also a mongrel race, after all aren't they a bit too close to Italy and Spain? Let's be honest, the eastern germans are basically czech or polish themselves, they are a threat to the purity of our white ethnostate so next we need to eliminate the belgians and dutch, as well as the excessively asianized fins.

Anyway my point is that by the end of it, you've got one swede, one norwegian and one german rifling through eachother's family records trying to find some evidence their great great great great great great granddaddy got himself some "racially unpure" booty before they do it to them.

The rich aren't exploiting me either, you just said you made 85K, I make less than half of that and live comfortably.
It's all about not being a retard with your money.

If you sell your labor for a wage, you work. Don't be retarded.

>I've only taken a couple macroeconomics classes at a 4 year university.
That's much better than nothing.

>- rising tuition rates (time.com/4472261/college-cost-history/)
Rising tuition rates can be heavily attributed to Federal aid (FAFSA). The article basically stops at 1960 and jumps to "Today" without exploring potential causes in those decades which is rather confusing. It's like it expects you to just make a conclusion on your own. But anyway, my accusation about federal aid is well documented. Even the Federal Reserve studied that connection. The problem is viewing higher education as a right rather than a privilege, which not only DEVALUES your bachelor's degree (e.g. if everyone has something, does it really have any value?) but also influences young people to believe that they are owed that higher education and all the "doors" that higher education implies to open.
>- increasing grocery store and super market prices (look at your receipts from the past few years)
The staggering amount of factors that go into food prices would make for a fantastic socioeconomic study. But really, let's start with just the basics.
>land taxes
>land prices
>weather
>farm labor
>farm machinery
>shipping
>demand for product
>costs of operating and maintaining retail stores
>retail labor
>business taxes
And so on and so on
And even so, prices are falling by me because competition has increased. Where we used to have 3 grocery stores in a general area we now have 6! You should know how competition typically leads to lower prices from your macro classes.
>- wage stagnation (epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/)
The slow recovery from the 2008 financial crisis can be mostly blamed on President Obama's utter failure to handle the Great Recession. He basically did what FDR did and extended the length of the recession due to legislative lag. A recession or depression has a precise definition, as you likely know from your classes. And I've run out of space.

They looked down on non germans as an inevitable consequence of promoting germans. Giving each culture its own space (nations) is an easy way to avoid constant daily low profile conflict that really makes life miserable even if it does mean war from time to time. But to convince certain parts of the population of this, you have to promote your own nation to itself above others under the assumption that others will do the same. This may require expulsion of easily identified and problem causing parts of the population, but the same feelings that cause desire for expulsions are the same ones that cause desire for secure borders, and the same feelings that cause you to generally find people of your own race more attractive.

Racism is in all of us. The only way to eradicate it is to make you hate yourself and everyone who looks like you. That's not healthy.

>You have to be a wage slave or you starve

Yes doesn't sound exploitative at all thanks

Ya a lot of shit is automated, but that doesn't eliminate work altogether. There's a lot of initial work to get things set up, log analytics, troubleshooting, working with developers, etc.

I wasn't aware I was mis-managing my income.

The weird thing to me is people think we can eliminate it.

Humans, as a species, ELIMINATED another like species that we could breed with. We killed them or fucked them out of existence. We are talking about 3-4 generations of homo sapian introduction, and then gone.

Genocide itself is a constant in human history. We are quite literally bred to be racist, nor does one race have a monopoly on it.

>rights
>doesn't believe in property

Not real work, be real dude. You sit on a chair play video games or watch anime while your scripts and programs do your job for you.

Actual working class people who work 80 hour week 12 hour shifts while getting paid way less than you (me) laugh at you for being a privileged cunt who thinks they are being oppressed, get a real problem lmao.

Except you don't. You can check out and still get your basic needs met by the government.

To be prosperous, to get the things you want, you have to work. If you think THATS exploitative then feel free to rail against your perceived injustices nearly alone while the rest of us enjoy our lives.

>I want things given to me on the basis that I have a beating heart

Gotta share that broken AK user Don’t you love how commies are almost never the proletariat they wish to save?

>comfy middle class life woth good job
>waaah Capitalism is failing

If you can live comfortably on what you make, you aren't oppressed, sorry.

If somehow you are being oppressed by your job, chances are you are a fucking retard anyways, but since all socialists are retarded, this may explain things.

I'm not op and your class unconsciousness is pretty sad

Fuck communism.