Bismarck vs. Hitler

>Bismarck vs. Hitler

Who would win in a fight?

Bismarck hands down

explain

Both were shit

He wasn't a manlet

Who would win Hitler who was a really tough war veteran got shot multiply times and survived.
Or a stinking spoiled nobel who gave Germany away in the first WW.
Atleast Hitler did hara kiri when he lost.

bismack had a good left hook

Hand to hand combat?
I think Bismarck. Although Hitler has some awesome willpower.

>gave Germany away in first the WW
You might want to read up on some basic history tbqh

Didn't Bismarck fight/duel a lot in his youth? Unless you're picking wheelchair Bismarck, he'd definitely win it

American education...not even once.

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>be so retarded you still get labeled a burger

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Hitler was shot at but never hit. Bismarck on the other hand was hit at point blank range and lived.

Bismarck hands down.

6'3 duellist vs 5'8 semi eunuch manlet. Also has far greater intellectual and strategic capacity.

Bismarck, because the men knew when it was enough and he got the better allies.

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SHOW YOURSELF lets us see witch education system is to blame here

Hitler was 40 years younger.

Bismarck because he knows that the Anglo should never be triffled with.

If Bismarck was never dismissed then World War 1 could have been avoided.

Hitler was a beta socially awkward manlet.

>first WW

If it was up to Bismarck there'd be no WWI and probably no indepnedent Poland. While I dislike him he certainly was worth his salt.

In a fist fight? Hitler. He was more of a bruiser than Bismarck was.

If the Kaiser didnt dismiss Bismarck as chancellor them ww1 could have been toally avoided. Bismarck knew that rapid navy build up would provoke Britain and he totally would have avoided that. Bismarck feared a war with Britain.

The German high command were already fearful of a rapidly industrialisating Russia.

Teddy Roosevelt

Bismarck would have ensured that Germany remained irrelevant forever.

Bismarck died like 15 years before the first world war. It's Leo von Caprivi that shouldn't have been dismissed.

Not really germany even becoming the powerhouse it was, was built on his influence. The difference is that bismarck knew what a saturated state was. He destroyed france, germanys main rival, and put them in a locked position through an alliance with russian, great britian and others.

He ensured that Germany would survive and remain prosperous. He didnt want any colonies because it was costly and would def be a target by the Europeans powers namely France. He completely understood the balance of power if Europe. He understood that the creation of Germany broke the balance of power in Europe and he didnt want to be isolated by alliances.

Everything Bismarck worked for (German unification) was shattered by the Kaisers incompetence and sabre ratling.

Bismarck was a true genius who understands Europe well.

Prosit to the great man! It's a shame everything he worked for was shattered in the end.

Bismarck. Alone his history of duels will ensure hs win

Bismarck was dismissed when Wilhem came to power.


Germany became the main industrial power in Europe but she was fearful of the Russian Empire which was industrialiising even more than Germany

Britain was already weary of Germany however what really drove the creation of the triple entente was German naval build up which really scared Britain because it scared her naval and trading interests.

Cheers a bit drunk but I enjoy victorian geopolitics.

Let's be honest, we all know he has a US flag.

I know. My point is he would have died in office early enough for Willi to fuck everything up.

Are you Americans really thought history? I'll be honest here in my country we are only thought Asian history(Spanish conquest) and American subjugation of my country and my fellow country are totally ignorant of general history but I expect more from you Americans. It's not hard to grab a book and study the history of the world.


It is by examining the history of the past that we are able to examine the mistakes of the past and learn from it.

Exactly but he could have chosen a succesor who had the same mindset as him.

The kaiser was truly a bastard. The unification of Germany was a miracle. If Britain didnt allow it then Germany would never have been a made(the kaiser previously refused a liberal unification(crown from the gutter speech) ).

America is not alone in that. Our history lesson are like 90% European focused. Of that 70% start with the French revolution, Germany more or less always in the center and we had a good teacher. If one wants to learn about the history of other countries school is often the wrong place to search for that.

Hitler had one nut and a deformed cock with 3 different holes in his urethra

We're taught almost exclusively a basic US history up to 6th grade, then in 7th or 8th grade we get our first taste of world history and a more detailed examination of US history. In highschool, you can take classes that will really dive into world history and can teach you a lot, but the biggest issue is the attitude most students have towards the subject. The majority of American students have little to no interest in history and generally see it as just another useless set of classes that they have to take in order to graduate. This often remains true even for university students.

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>be Germancuck
>spread lies about your countries greatest leader

The absolute state of Germany. Hitler was shot, blown up, and mustard gassed you imbecile.

Neither.

Sauce?

>He ensured that Germany would survive and remain prosperous.
As a client state of greater powers.

I wonder what kind of conversations Hitler and Hindenburg had.

Assuming it's a fist fight between both men in their prime, Bismarck

Obviously Hitler, he had tanks and drugs.

The French revolution was a mistake. It destroyed France. However it made Britain. the sole super power of the era. Much good came from Britain. If it wasnt for French incompetence we would not be having a conversation right now.

Ironically the French revolution gave rise to the idea of a German state. If Napoleon knew that invading and destroying the HRE would give rise to fall of his country then Im sure he wouldnt even step outside France.

You are thought American in 3 grades? God give me strength the whole American history can be thought in a day. Why dont history classes teach the history of the whole world? From the fertile crecent to the Syrian """"""civil war"""""

No idea. But ill keep posting women to keep the thread alive.

Hidenburg supported Hitler but he was cautious of him.

>hitler you damn austrian capo GTFO you'll never be chancellor, the jew ordered me
>hello Chancellor hitler, thanks for BTFO the jews

Shrapnel wound and mustard gas yes, but he never got shot. Were did you get this from?

>Much good came from Britain
Gas yourself

They were similar howevet Hidenburg was a firm believer of the old order (Reactionary) while Hitler belived in National Socialism.

I could be wrong though Im a bit (really) drunk I barely know what I am typing.

American education never ceases to amuse me

>2000 Bismarcks v 1 turbo-giga Hitler
Who would win?

It's true. Modern medicine, industrialisation,etc and why we understand each other is all because of Britain.

Do you Americans forget you were once a colony of Britain.

You are probably some mongrel mix of some Irish-Italian-German-Pole Bastard. A true American would appreciate what Britain has done for the world.

>Also has far greater intellectual and strategic capacity.
What the hell do you know about this? Hitler was an intellectual heavy weight who read and learned things all the time every day.

>Hitler was an intellectual heavyweight coz he read books and learned new stuff from them
Do Nazis genuinely consider this to be a sign of high intelligence?

>Hitler was a beta

Hindenburg thought like many reactionaries that they could control hitler. He got old and dement and gave evermore power to hitler. Our lesson to that period was titled "machtergreifung, machterschleichung und machtübertragung".

Britain is shit and always has been.

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Fuck off pajeet

>being this retarded

Fuck off, Bismarck is the actual best German statesman.

Also, Bismarck literally wanted to avoid the First World War, and predicted it 20 years prior.

Bismarck would've died in office sometime around 1905, still allowing Wilhelm II to fuck things up royally. There would need to be a major socialist uprising in which Willy abdicates in favour of his son or some other asshole. Constitutional Monarchy is the way to go, that or have the war happen as planned and get Willy to return as monarch in the early 30's, having learned that fucking up comes with serious consequences. t.b.h. would be an interesting alternative history timeline.

Outcome independent from puppet-leader. IBM subverts Germany in all simulations.

Prussia versus alpine black hairs sops , no contest

>Based royalist second reich vs meme-tier national-socialist ideology which literally fucked everything up

the only thing they have in common is that they both ruled germany. Bismarck was one of the greatest statesmen of all time and knew when to stop (after handing Napoleon III his own ass).

Hitler could have gone down in history in a similar way had he stopped before invading poland and instead focused on becoming the industrial powerhouse they were already halfway to being.

Hitto von Adolfmarck

He was though. The entire movement was a literal beta uprising.