>he still thinks lower taxes improves the economy and increases tax revenue
>still believing the trickle down Jewish meme
That's cute sweetheart, but no.
Lower taxes do not improve the economy.
Evidence: 65 year analysis of tax brackets and economic growth graphics8.nytimes.com
Lower taxes do not improve government revenue (if they're to the left of Laffer curve peak), and most Western nations are to the left of the peak
Evidence: sciencedirect.com
Laffer curve: en.wikipedia.org
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this really made me think. for instance, how how does the top glass continually get larger? how to the glasses beneath support the immense weight of the large glass? why does the wine bottle appear to pour perpetually?
Trickle down economy = meme
One that many poltards buy into
Very True.
Hollywood Liberal and Democrat elite have had their rape and sexual harassment and child sex rings for years.
And we have had none.
Time for that pedophilia to trickle down to us common people
>That is, it is analyzed by how much a tax cut is self-financing if incentive feedback effects are taken into account.
And this man has the gall to call me sweetheart
Fucking dropped faggot
>and we have none
Oh how naive you are.
what is the bottle supposed to represent ? Do libtards even understand own wealth is generated ?
I don't give a fuck about increasing tax revenue m8, just more money for the government to waste on dumb shit that'll probably fuck up the economy and my life, in fact lowering tax revenue is a bonus.
>People keep what they earn
>This is evil
Fucking commies everywhere.
Its growth is powered by the delusion of trickle down cucks.
That's because you're a nihilistic black pilled cuck.
People should keep what they earn (this is a seperate discussion, you'd have to define earn), even if it destroys the nation in the long run? Even if foreign or negative elements that don't care about your country milk it for it is worth before off shoring? You are a quintessential cuck.
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>growing your own personal wealth if you're in the top 1% when the tax cuts are implemented
Fixed.
Just shows how much of an emotionally driven bitch you are, I posted two studies destroying your world view and you couldn't handle it.You're more emotionally driven than libcucks.
Didn't read. You're advocating theft, and thus you have no legitimate position. Also top lel at a Bong trying to discuss the economy. Your entire country is carried by one city, which only exists because it dodges all of your taxes.
You actually posted two studies that demonstrated nothing except that there is more to the economy than tax rate, while your nation continues sliding into inescapable debt and loses its economy.
Neither of which change the fact that you're justifying theft so that you can give more of your own money to 80 IQ shitskins. Good work. You're a champion.
>Wanting to increase government revenue
>You actually posted two studies that demonstrated nothing except that there is more to the economy than tax rate, while your nation continues sliding into inescapable debt and loses its economy.
That isn't a statement I'd disagree with completely. The reason I addressed the tax rate because that is the argument given by republicucks and libertarians. That is the sole argument given by establishment elites and talking heads over the past 30 years for lowering taxes. It's also an argument I've seen on here.
So why are you going off on an irrelevant tangent?
You didn't read because you're a low IQ baby that makes all his decisions based on emotions, while believing that you don't. You're stealing my air, kys.
Denmark and Norway are better than your country. They are the best countries to live in for the average middle and working class white man. Dumb leaf.
Yeah and they also use the most anti-depressants wonder why there so "happy"
what actually happens is as the top glass grows, he hires more glasses in order to support him, allowing him to become bigger and bigger whilst creating more and more jobs for other glasses.
Oh and I forgot to say this.
Your top 20 metropolitan areas are almost all below 50% white and your country is 56% white overall. The elite are siphoning off your countries wealth, filling it with non whites, and you even suck their dicks and beg to lower their taxes so they steal more of your countries wealth and import more nonwhites. You deserve everything you get, you piece of shit.
More and more jobs for the all the nonwhites these same people import into the country. Kys cuck.
What do the rich people do wth all their money? Put it in a vault and lose it to inflation?
anyone using the term "cuck" now, is a fucking lefty cunt......
Wrong. This is from 2016.
Not only are you wrong, but you're shitty little evasion isn't even relevant. Dumb leaf.
lol..i have so much money I HAVE to get rid of it somehow...
yeah, get rid of it by building factories in india
>not wanting elites to fuck your country over makes you a lefty
Fuck off you cunt, Hitler said and would say the exact same thing. As would Mussolini and every far right figure from the past 100 years. Bending over backwards for the rich while they fuck your country derives from modern liberalism, not the right-wing.
The bottle represents wealth you fucking leaf. Trickle down means lessen the restrictions of generating wealth which will naturally pool on the top in the hopes that the top glass will eventually get full (rich people spending pouring more money into the general economy which would benefit those below). What really happens is that the top percentage gets richer BUT they won't spend their money at least not in an economy the majority of people work in. Much smarter would be to give money and tax breaks to poorer people which have a much higher purchasing power as a whole.
For example give every Canadian 200 bucks a month more, they will safe 50 and buy more stuff with the 150 because he withheld consuming before because he lived from paycheck to paycheck.
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kek, I didn't even read your studies faggot. As if they'd shed any new light on the subject. The only way to make money is become a business owner and get comfy tax laws. Not gibs. You sound just like a nigger
>making arguments with pictures
Your IQ isn't high enough for this discussion.
Eat your fruityloops cereal and stick to watching cartoons.
>saving money is bad for the economy
That’s right goyim, spending your money is better!
why the fuck would you want the government to get more revenue
And you sound like a blue pilled republican.
You will be living in a nigger majority country soon, then they'll come for your wealth like they are in south Africa. You're so blueplilled it's laughable.
The government doesn't need ANOTHER FUCKING DIME because all they do is waste it on fat beaners and niggers, destroying white communities with """refugees"""", and wars for Israel.
Are you a fucking retard?
So before 1913 there were no taxes? God damn you're stupid. Income tax was started during the fucking civil war you idiot
Why are you only focusing on one part of the OP?
Denmark and Norway have roughly 10% domestic taxes on business, the US has 20%
Denmark and Norway have roughly 20% tax on international corps located in Norway, its 40% in the US
>muh trickle down doesn’t work!
>we need wealth redistribution because the nignogs are coming from Africa to take advantage of wealth redistribution
The fuck are you even talking about?
If you want to stop them coming here, you need to kill welfare, not boost it.
You are assuming that the government improves the economy in some way at all
the government is entirely parasitical on the economy you faggot
Fascism > Cuckpitalism
I agree with you, the current government is hostile to whites. But they'll still spend the money here, rather than offshoring or investing it in India like the economic elite does.
Why would you use an example where physics sides against you. You already sound crazy. Comparing your already crazy ideals to the scientifically impossible while comparing what you disagree with the the scientifically logical isn't smart
Bluepilled. I'm talking about owning a business which is the most redpilled thing you can do. Fucking bait at this point.
>nigger majority country
You think thousands of somalis are gonna swim over on their rafts? Have you looked at a world map before?
I don't know why it's so hard for Republicans to see that it's the middle class that drive the economy the most. If driving the economy is the goal, than that's where your tax cuts go.
It really is disheartening to see that the President has turned out to be just another politician that screen the middle-class.
He's either high on meth or is just a master shitposter
>REEEE'ed over a simple picture
Truth hurts, huh?
This. Their markets are the freest after tax havens.
You're the one that assuming lowering taxes improves the economy, it doesn't, as the 65 year analysis shows.
Want studies that show it does?
That's not how wealth is generated you fucking moron. Everybody generates their own wealth, it is then stolen from the top glass and given to the bottom.
Your shitty tiny business is fucking irrelevant, you fucking bluepilled cuck. I'm talking about the top 100 mega companies.
And your country is already 56% white, your niggers and nonwhites will come from your current niggers and nonwhites breeding.
And you wonder way you keep getting screwed by our government.
I got news for you, it isn't just Hillary that's screwing you( I'm assuming you work and don't live with Mommy and Daddy).
The problem is your assuming more taxes MUST equal more handouts to niggers and nonwhites.
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its a myth that appeared out of nowhere
Even if you're right, I'm not going to listen to any cunt that calls me sweetheart.
Of course you couldn't resist misunderstanding my post on purpose. One of the main issues every western country is facing besides gentrification is the money hoarding of rich people, something the trickle down bullshit is contributing to.
There'a only so much wealth to be had in an economy. Since the rich don't know what else to do with their millions they're withholding their money which means companies have to squeeze more money out of the poor fucking rest.
Lowering tax has been shown to increase tax revenues for over a century, posting some strawman picture revealing your ignorance of an economics theory that doesn't exist isn't going to convince anyone
>its a myth that appeared out of nowhere
We all lived through the amazing trickle down tax cuts in the 200's. Damn, we sure did have a booming economy in 2008 didn't we?
Who gives a fuck if they spend the money here, what they're spending the money on is hurting the country you fucking moron.
>everybody generates their own wealth
>taken from the top
Oh okay you're one of those brainless ancaps should've told so earlier. You better fuck off to Somalia, I think they have less roads and laws you have to spend your money on.
it has nothing to do with trickledown
its corporate lobbies
>Lowering tax has been shown to increase tax revenues f
The argument isn't against lowering taxes. It's about lowering taxes on big business and the wealthy while the middle class pays more .
The tax that maximizes tax revenue can be easily calculated; see pic
Trickle Down Economics does not exist and is merely a phrasing used to try and discredit capitalism.
All businesses get tax cuts no matter how big or small you fucking dipshit. I'm saying. That the economy is never going to work for you, if you want to be able to retire early, grow wealth, create self sustaining revenue streams, and get better taxes, you have to own a business. Or else, you're going to be a slave to business all your life because businesses are the ones making the rules. And until you can magically force government officials to stop whoring for money, businesses are always going to be the ones making the rules. Do ya get it now? Fucking retard
I'm not sure why you're only talking about the corporate tax, many of the wealthiest people are taxed individually or by household. So you're ignoring half the issue here.
Also the laws in America are far easier to bypass if you're rich because of your fucked up legal system, so nobody with money is actually paying that corporate rate or the top individual tax rate.
The corporate tax in Denmark is at 22%. That's the lowest it has been for 25 years. It has averaged at around 33% over the last 30 years or so. And in Norway the corporate tax rate is 27%. While the corporate tax rate is lower, there are other taxes and the laws are stronger, so the tax rate is much higher overall.
>Lowering tax has been shown to increase tax revenues for over a century, posting some strawman picture revealing your ignorance of an economics theory that doesn't exist isn't going to convince anyone
>what is the laffer curve
No dummy, if your tax rate is bellow the peak of the curve, you will not gain optimal tax revenue. Don't fucking comment if you're clueless and didn't read summary of the links.
Let me debunk this once and for all.
What leftists always forget is that you can only get rich by making other people slightly richer. (This has exceptions when you start subsidizing things or become socialist.)
A millionaire who got rich by manufacturing toothbrushes has done the equivalent of throwing maybe $100k of free value into the economy.
When enough rich people do this, spending power goes up.
When spending power goes up, the poor benefit the most because the poor man's financial bottleneck is basic necessities.
Except your shitty argument has been shown to be wrong for 65 years. You'd know that if you bothered to read the first link.
>thinks I'm lefty
>not kissing the ass of rich people while they import third world shitskins and degenerate your country makes you a lefty
Kys.
You're problem is that you still think the world is fair. Guess what. Whoever has the most money is making you their bitch and the only way to beat them is to join them, and mommy and daddy government can't save you because they're the biggest bitches of all
>They are the best countries to live in for the average middle and working class white man
If you just want to be average then sure
Well you definitely are a lefty and an idiot whether you like it or not. What the hell does that first link "debunk"?
Do you think the USSR collapsed because they didn't tax the rich enough?
Trickle down and capitalism are not necessarily intertwined. Nice straw man, leaf.
Where did I say anything about fairness?
You're the one that thinks the world should be fair or kind, you're the one arguing that taxation is thievery or unfair if it's too high.
>hoever has the most money is making you their bitch and the only way to beat them is to join them
Until you're hanged and killed in the streets.
>thinks he's special
No, you're just delusional.
You didn't use the word "fair" but you have this dellusional false perception that everybody in the world isn't only looking out for themselves.
Back to the breitbart comment section, boomer republicuck. If you didn't understand the implications of the first link and my argument, you are too fucking dumb. Sorry but that's the truth.
>when rich people get richer, poor people benefit
Are you a commie who believes wealth is infinite?
The reality is that rich people just hoard that money and put it into offshore accounts. Just how much of a good goy do you have to be to believe this Jewish scam.
boy, I sure am willing to listen to you now that you've attempted to demean me based upon your assumptions on what I believe!
kys
>You didn't use the word "fair" but you have this dellusional false perception that everybody in the world isn't only looking out for themselves.
You have the delusional false perception that everyone is or should be, or always will be.You're so delusional, you'd have to be an American to say what you've said. If everyone was out for themselves, we'd still be in caves and living in savannas. Humans evolved to cooperate. You are nothing by yourself.
Your worldview is just a product of you growing up in a sick society like America.
>do you think the USSR collaosed because they didn't tax the rich enough
In the USSR the richest held the highest positions in the party and paid no taxes. By your strawman logic that means that taxing rich people less means economical failure.
Everyone always portrays the reason why trickle down doesn't work is because rich people just sit in their money, but do rich people really do that? I'm sure if most people found themselves in possession of a billion dollars they'd have no idea what to do with it, but rich people don't do that. You invest in stuff so you don't lose your money. You buy assets. You grow your fortune. This makes me think the real problem is that people can grow their money without actually growing the economy. Of course you'll invest your billion dollars in fakemoney derivatives of Google rather than giving a loan to a guy who wants to open a barbershop, but the latter is really probably more of what we want. Really in this situation, as much as I'd want to take the libertarian path, we probably need some sort of benevolent government intervention to stop the shitty stock-market shit. just my 2 cents
Rightwing amerifats learn by an early age that if they get jewed hard by their companies it's their own fault.
If zero taxes (equal 0% tax) brought the best sustained growth over american history turning our country from a few towns to an industrial empire. (True wealth based on Gold)
Taxes if they need exist should be equal, it is a percentage. If they are going to steal from us it should at least be equally. 15% flat tax period, over taxing the people who make most of the jobs is idiotic, it causes business owners to offset that cost in their products, paying their employees less...causes raw material prices to rise. All prices rise because adding a tax will ultimately increase prices.
Increased prices plus higher taxes means citizens have less disposable income.
Less disposable income means less money for personal investments. Personal investment is what truly brings people to the middle class and above....out of modern day slavery working to put food on the table. Turning employees into Employers due to a low tax environment.
Any kind of Bracketed Tax is absolutely stupid.
25% of 1 million dollars is a lot more than 25% of $50,000
Literally theft, hey you make more so you don't need. Socialism.....ruins markets, at the very least is not the most efficient wealth building system.
First off it's taking less money from people not giving people handouts so no one is 'getting' wine in this scenario. Secondly conservative tax proposals do not only give cuts to the rich, they get the biggest cuts because they pay the most in taxes and the poorest who pay nothing get nothing but everyone gets a cut proportional to their income.
>the government is entirely parasitical on the economy you faggot
Economies without governments fail, so the public sector is inducive, not parasitic.
Rent-seekers are entirely parasitic, if you were looking for someone to rant about.
This is some top notch propaganda here:
^I'll have what smoking
I'd like to present the monarchism/democracy-the-god-that-failed arguement. The whole Laffer curve thing is all about maximizing annual tax income, but that shouldn't be what we want to maximize. You ever grown bacteria (or anything else that increases exponentially)? You don't let it grow a bit and then constantly snip off bits. You let it grow as much as possible without you bothering it, then snip as late as possible. Basically, we should be taxing as little as possible to cover what the government needs to supply (roads, police, police, judicial), then leaving the people alone, coz the less you tax, the more people have to grow, and you'll reap the benefits years down the road.
tl;dr yes if you tax 75% or 50% instead of 5% you might get more revenue now, but the person who taxed 5% will be way ahead of you in 10 or 20 years.
The only reason we have ANY of this is because people were doing things for themselves. It's basic animal instinct, it's what you were doing when you were a sperm cell racing through your mothers shrivelled fallopian tubes, it's natural selection. Do you think any business owner or inventor ever made something without the intention of getting rich and fucking a ton of bitches? Oh yeah, they probably started McDonalds to help the hungry people, and the NFL isn't a mindless cash grab- the players actually care about you! And Bud Light is so you can have a blast with your friends!- not some synthetic swill that nets millions of dollars every year. Why do you think commercials exist? To trick dumb fucks like you into giving them your money by pretending to care about you!
>The only reason we have ANY of this is because people were doing things for themselves.
This is your subjective assumption.
Prove it.
Because I know it doesn't apply to me.
>uh oh
Like I give a shit about how much money the government has.
If you give them more they will just waste it.
Furthermore: Even in a group scenario- hunter/gatherer tribe for instance. Everyone in that tribe is trying to produce goods to raise their own status in that clan and become the leader.
>giving corporations and billionaires (who all lobby for more mass non white immigration, invest abroad, and fund leftist projects) is better
Prove it? I don't know how to prove to you that humans enjoy higher quality of life, I really don't. I figured that was a pretty basic concept.
no, we need a system to siphon money off the rich and give it to the poor, so they don't all starve to death