Here we discuss Brazilian politics and ways to prevent this country from becoming red
/hue/ - Brazilian Politics General
Elijah Peterson
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Robert Nguyen
We kill them simple as that
Henry Lee
don't pay taxes
Carson Rogers
UMA
BUNDA
ARRRRRRRRIBA MAMAGUEVO!!
Jason Murphy
Separe Southern Brazil and Sao Paulo from the rest of majority leftist Brazil, and then apply one-child policy in the poor people there.
Brazil as a whole no hope.
And yes RGS is majority no red.
Liam Butler
Do Brazilians say mamaguevo? What's a popular portuguese swear except for caralho, porra and droga?
Charles Allen
Prove that you are Swedish.
Bentley Watson
Uma bolinho de banana. Eu amo uma sopa de macaco, e uma delícia.
Brayden Parker
This
The middle class should organize and stop paying taxes. Brasilia would immediately collapse
Juan Murphy
nope, that's spanish.
Julian Allen
>southern brazil
>sao paulo
>not leftist
Nigga, everything bad about this country came from the south. Vargas and Médici, per example.
Everything liberal came from the north.
O NORDESTE É MEU PAÍS
Jack Cooper
>implying liberals aren't leftists
Isaiah King
>muh horseshoe theory
Hunter Long
médici was a badass shut up
Parker Harris
redpill me on brazil politics
Thomas Thompson
sometimes i feel bad for people that have a standard of living just barely above africa or aboriginal austalians
then i remember that brasil is not inhabited by humans
kek you browns think your lives matter
Charles Williams
Facts... are... hard
Eli Walker
crime occurs
nothing happens
feijoada
Connor Stewart
O que isso tem a ver, macaco?
Grayson Watson
Friendly reminder Brazil is a dump and you're all a bunch of filthy animals.
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Julian Gonzalez
there will only be black pills until we bring our monarchy back
Luke Myers
Not as filthy as british muslims.
Dominic Wilson
>tfw can't get a job, even as a cashier
>tfw even shitty jobs require past experience and has at least 75 other people competing with you
Jesus christ I just want a job, I need to pay the bills. When will this economy get better?
Oliver Bennett
really? can't you read a fucking graphic? Education in the north is worse than I thought
Jace Baker
I started a poll to have this asshole punished for insulting Brazil and UFC hasn't done anything.
ffs
Levi Davis
>the face when as an engineer I get payed 2K
>the face when cooks earn more than I do
Andrew Sullivan
What the fuck do these graphs have to do with horseshoe theory?
Fucking monkeys.
Eli Smith
fuck your feelings kid
Camden Russell
Santa Catarina não está tão longe em termos de PIB. Nosso IDH é maior pelo menos.
Mas eu tenho inveja de São Paulo, porque o governo enfia a mão no cu de vocês muito menos. Aqui eles roubam tudo, contribuímos pra caralho pra união, pagamos impostos exorbitantes e temos quase porra nenhuma de volta. Parece que quanto pior é o povo, mais o governo gosta de ajudar.
Julian Lee
>prevent this country from becoming red
Anão, i....
Jaxson Gutierrez
>polls
>ever doing anything
Adrian Diaz
since when liberalism is opposing to leftism? lol give me a break
Brody Allen
Uma DELÍCIA.
Elijah Perry
>everything I don't like is leftism
Amateur.
Christian Cruz
Out browsing Sup Forums while Mohammed fucks your wife, swedebro?
Go eat some surströmming or whatever.
Gabriel Edwards
Exterminate every non-white, welfare leeches left voting disappears, iq instantly go from 87 to 100, whites who are the only ones who produce money in this hellhole can keep it and boost the economy instead of get robed to help reproduce sub humans, vote leftists out of office, and there you go...
give a couple generations and all of our problems will solve themselves...
Cooper Johnson
It fucking sucks, I just need a job to help me pay the bills, any shitty job that pays me 600 temers a month will do, but apparently even that is impossible nowadays. I'm sick of sending curriculums everywhere and not getting even a call.
If I don't get a job until the last day of this years, I will commit suicide, I'm sick of this rigged game.
Aaron Sullivan
Eu sou de SC, mas SP paga muito mais para a União do que nós pagamos.
Eles sim são os verdadeiros roubados
Jayden Powell
>>everything I don't like is leftism
who said that stupid shit?
Jonathan Price
I would post something disparaging, but I actually like Brazil, meu amor.
Jaxon Sanchez
update on brazilian trump please
does he have a chance to win?
Josiah Harris
me*
Justin Myers
O PIB é uma fraude. Entra no cálculo os gastos do governo.
Essencialmente, várias coisas são contadas duas vezes. É perfeitamente possível que o PIB duplique ao mesmo tempo que todos fiquem 50% mais pobres.
Justin Martin
Liberalism and leftism have completely different first principles.
The fact that they agree on certain topics do not make them identical, neither does it mean that "one accepts the other".
Rookie mistake.
Leo Ortiz
Sometimes I feel like going to the US and getting any job in the hope of making a decent living...
Ethan Garcia
Yes, now go back to the Earth, monkey.
Hunter Wright
Interessante. Obrigado anão.
Agora posso reclamar por SP também.
No final das contas é culpa do nordeste.
Eu só queria que nós tivessemos mais policiamento e uma infraestrutura melhor, eu sou de uma cidadezinha na costa, perto de Criciúma, e a prefeitura tem porra nenhuma pra gastar. Paramos de ser bairro em 2013, mas desde então parece que as coisas pioraram. Eu nunca vi tanto crime aqui assim, pela primeira vez na minha vida tentaram me assaltar ontem, dois lixos humanos numa moto tentaram agarrar meu celular. Isso simplesmente não acontecia por aqui, eu estou muito desapontado.
He's on 2nd place on the polls, he can win, but it's a really hard fight because commies are still very vocal and control the media.
We'll see. I'm not leaving even if Lula is elected again, I love the country and I want to protect it from the red threat.
Lucas Carter
>Liberalism and leftism have completely different first principles
That was true back in 19th and early 20th century, definitely not anymore. Just look the US and Europe
Caleb Wood
You can't unless you are brown.
If you are white, it's automatic deportation.
Colton Martin
Can't you become a cop and kill favelaniggers?
Andrew Watson
Anthony Perez
I'm not going to migrate, just saying that sometimes it feels like the only escape from this hell hole called Brazil
Isaac Anderson
>implying the government will hire anyone
They don't have money for shit
Jason Smith
Now, I'm from Santa Catarina... grow balls little basterd, São Paulo aint going to do nothing half of them are fucking Brazilians from other part of the country.
Alexander Hernandez
Thank god yes, he is second on pools, but your pools act the same way as americans, the pool companies are either from government or the media who calls him *ist *phobic every day, as we talk to people on street and internet, he is probably already in first
the first on pools is the former president, who created the welfare system here and fucked the country, he is been charged with 14 crime process tho, so he may not be able to compete
I'm hopeful about the chances, he is for sure not about white ethno state, but he is for smaller state and meritocracy, which in the long run go in the same direction...
Jeremiah Harris
Nope.
American Liberalism is liberal in name only. This is why people who still hold liberal principles needed to come up with the terms "classical liberal" or "libertarian" to distinguish themselves from modern liberals. The conservatives have also long given up on that whole "small government" thing.
The current trends that make up American politics are the socialization of commodities and advocates for state capitalism. People like Ron Paul and Rand Paul are exceptions, points way off the curve.
You are fooling yourself into thinking that people must be whatever they call themselves. Liberals call themselves liberal, so they must be liberal, right? Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is popular, democratic, and republican, right?
Brody Morales
Bad news: you're gonna be the next Venezuela. Enjoy the ride!
Christopher Martin
Neither Lula nor Bolsonaro will win. And if Bolsonaro wins, nothing will change if the Congress stays the same.
Michael Bell
No doubt.
Oliver Sanders
>American Liberalism is liberal in name only. This is why people who still hold liberal principles needed to come up with the terms "classical liberal" or "libertarian" to distinguish themselves from modern liberals. The conservatives have also long given up on that whole "small government" thing.
You just proved my point, which is that classical liberalism is dead. The liberalism of today is progressive nonsense.
>The current trends that make up American politics are the socialization of commodities and advocates for state capitalism
Therefore, today's liberalism is leftist. Proving my point again.
>You are fooling yourself into thinking that people must be whatever they call themselves. Liberals call themselves liberal, so they must be liberal, right? Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is popular, democratic, and republican, right?
I'm not gonna debate semantics with you. Get a life.
Juan Barnes
FUCK YOU, AMERICA
YOU ARE 400 POUNDS. 65% OF YOUR COUNTRY WILL HAVE DIABETES IN 10 YEARS.
You're so cucked you can get accused of rape for looking at girl
Brazil has good natural dangers. People here fear what they have always feared: murder, rape, zica, dengue, malaria and hunger
In america anyone can get accused of being a white male, which is professional and personal homicide.
>b-but brazil is more dangerous than syria, muh murder rates, muh liveleak
Cherrypicked footage from specific murder districts in Brazil is no proof of anything and has to stop. You can be safe in Brazil than anywhere else in the world. All you have to do is to avoid: beaches, favelas, city cneters, crowded tourist sights, public parks, empty streets, jammed traffic, tunnels, bus stops, public squares and specific murder areas that are known by everyone.
Colton Harris
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My city is safer then Chicago. Feels good.
Henry Hill
What went wrong?
Adrian Rivera
Brazilian liberals are much, much closer to classic liberals than American liberals.
For example, here they at least consider the possibility of fully privatizing healthcare, while in the US the liberals would riot should such proposition reach critical mass.
While our liberals might not be Christian and conservative, they do not actively shut down Christian-related initiatives or push for pedophilia acceptance in kindergartens. American liberals do.
There's just no comparison between Brazilian and American liberals.
Leo Hall
This burguer knows the truth.
Kayden Roberts
Liberals in Brazil = Classic Liberals
Liberals in the USA = Satanic socialist pedophiles from hell
Jayden Russell
>You can be safe in Brazil than anywhere else in the world. All you have to do is not leave home.
Ethan Morris
everything since 15th november of 1889
Owen Stewart
>Brazilian liberals
Irrelevant. Probably less than 1% of brazilians are real liberals
>For example, here they at least consider the possibility of fully privatizing healthcare
I don't what bubble you are living in, but no substantial candidate would ever be elected here saying "we should privatize the SUS"
>while in the US the liberals would riot should such proposition reach critical mass
In the US the healthcare is mostly privatized already.
>While our liberals might not be Christian and conservative, they do not actively shut down Christian-related initiatives or push for pedophilia acceptance in kindergartens. American liberals do.
Again, you are talking about an insignificant minority. Most brazilians are statists (both left and right wings)
>There's just no comparison between Brazilian and American liberals
Yes there are. Mainstream liberals in Brazil are associated with PSDB and DEM, which are left-wing parties. Basically we don't have a single party with classical liberal (or libertarian for that matter) ideology in this country.
Your argumentation is mostly unrealistic and devoid from reality, too idealistic...
Jace Bailey
o nordeste é meu país
how about a separatist movement coming from you guys, i would defend that
Hudson Murphy
>Portuguese colonization
>Too many negroes brought from Africa
>No eugenics policy
>No concept of accountability and personal responsibility
>Over concentration of power
and so on
Lucas Taylor
>Portuguese colonization
That's not a bad thing, vira-lata.
Way better than Britain or Spain.
Jose Martin
Portugal is the most pathetic country in western Europe. They historically really fucked up, and we inherited their legal shitty legal and government systems. No wonder our culture is so corrupt and averse to productivity
Carter Peterson
unironicaly this
Don Bertrand dissolving parlament every year until the dummies vote for a decent one
Brandon Lewis
Less than 1% of Brazilians are real [something] anyway. The vast majority is in the middle. Politicians, in order to get as many votes as possible, have to appeal to the people in the middle. They must compromise integrity and consistency. This is why you have Dória who claims to be a liberal but is against civilian gun ownership, and Bolsonaro who claims to be a conservative but wants to close the economy and nationalize the industries.
People responded well to Dória's public-private partnerships in São Paulo's health system. The mainstream idea is that the market is incapable of providing certain goods, and thus the government must step in and provide it itself. It is not absurd to think that a more "extremist" position such as a full privatization would resonate nicely with the public as a fresh alternative to decades and decades of socialized healthcare.
>In the US the healthcare is mostly privatized already.
The market is indeed more open, but the government still provides healthcare services with taxpayer money, such as Medicare and Medicaid. Even when the government merely pays you a private doctor, you cannot treat this as a full privatization of the sector.
>Most brazilians are statists (both left and right wings)
But then again, they have different principles. Some wish to use the state to rape your children, while others only want to rape your wallet. It is still foolish to treat these as the same thing.
>Yes there are. Mainstream liberals in Brazil are associated with PSDB and DEM
That's not a consequence of their ideals, but a consequence of our laws. Liberals have no choice but to join these parties. To create a new one is a pain, it involves getting hundreds of thousands of signatures in every state, even in the most insignificant ones. Given Brazil's demographic spread, it is perfectly possible for a majority of our population to subscribe to a set of ideals, but still be unable to create a new party founded on such ideals.
Colton Long
>Less than 1% of Brazilians are real [something] anyway
Not true. Most brazilians are welfare queens. Most brazilians recive some kind of resource from the government (be national or regional). Most brazilians won't ever consider reducing the amount of money they get from the State.. they would actually argue for more, and that is exactly why all major candidates ALWAYS promise more "free shit" every single election, because they know it would get them elected. Therefore most brazilians are statists and leftists.
>The vast majority is in the middle
The middle in Brazil means socialism, no point trying to present the middle as "moderates". Libertarianism is a fringe movement in Brazil.
>They must compromise integrity and consistency
I think you are being naive here. Professional politicians compromise everything to get elected. I would even say that they don't care about anything, but being elected. They have no consistency or integrity.
>This is why you have Dória who claims to be a liberal
Liberalism = leftism. Let them have the nomenclature ffs....
>People responded well to Dória's public-private partnerships
That is only a natural consequence of people being fed up with the failures of statism and some candidates trying to capitalize on the electoral frustration. I don't buy it for a second.
>but the government still provides healthcare
That being said, the healthcare in the US is mostly privatized
>you cannot treat this as a full privatization of the sector
Never said that
>they have different principles. Some wish to use the state to rape your children, while others only want to rape your wallet. It is still foolish to treat these as the same thing
Who's treating it as the same thing? Your comparison is fallacious and doesn't change my point.
>Liberals have no choice but to join these parties
They have no choice because classical liberalism is insignificant in Brazil. There is no popular movement clamoring for it
Oliver Ortiz
nope.
other good ones are:
viado, troxa, filho da puta, vai toma no cu, vai se fude, etc...you can always join them for max effect...
Luke Roberts
Insult chaining in brazilian lingo it's an spectacle of nature.
Colton Flores
What does Brazil think about EXPLOOOOOOSIONS?>
Discuss
Jaxon Hughes
...
Brody Ramirez
Meme movement.
Luis Campbell
Says the ancap faggot who is never taken seriously by anyone.
Connor Murphy
Impotent, low-testosterone men always looks to marry the state for security and comfort.
Jose Powell
>really trying to peddle your shit here
Lmao
Daniel Reyes
So what? Socialism is still taken a lot more seriously than your meme nationalism.
Are you going to suck their cocks now?
Andrew Sullivan
This is why no one likes you or takes your stupidity seriously.
Christopher Jackson
>becoming
Christian Carter
>popularity makes right
How exactly are you people different from your common everyday socialists?
Brody Sanchez
Fucking this. Not sure if he was being sarcastic or just stupid
Leo Wood
Not all. And that is why we (Brazilian Humans) are the most lonely humans in the world.
Juan Parker
>Vargas bad
>Liberal good
These basic bitch cuckservatives are a joke.
I bet you think PSDB is right-wing, you dumb monkey.
David Wood
cala boca seu merda... mostra a bandeira viado
Ian Evans
A bandeira brasileira só serve pra limpar o cu.
Ryan Smith
Southern Cone?
Nathaniel Murphy
I can't speak spanish... what's the point?
Alexander Brooks
Are Brazilians white?
Ayden Myers
Not even close.
The difference between a Brazilian and a simian is purely aesthetic.
Tyler Roberts
I just saying you could come with us, since Portugal is so Portugal nowadays, but I think all depends of your next election
Gabriel Harris
This bitch looks white to me
Noah Butler
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probably something between 20-40% but its hard to know for sure
thanks bruh