Can We Talk About Iran?

Redpill me on this them. All logic says their society should be successful.
>older than China and Greece
>flourished for several thousand years.

What happened? Is Ron Paul right and we really are responsible?

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>What happened?
Islam

And Mongols

There's literally nothing wrong with Islam. Islamic leadership however is absolute shit.

I met Iranians, and they are a whole tier above arabs. Their mentality is closer to that of white people than the chinks' is. Muzzies, but Zoroastrianism used to be their main religion.

Islam. If they were Christian they would probably rule the whole Middle East and be as advanced as the West.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

Define successful societies. Persians have owned those lands and created empires there for thousands of years, hijacked Shia Islam for themselves and currently are increasing their influence in the Middle-East. You gave them Iraq already, Hezbollah is stronger than ever and getting more and more military experience in Syria, and the Syrian civil war might come to an end soon with Assad being the winner.

Keeping your identity and language despite tons of wars, even adapting the religion forced upon you and using it as your tool and maintaining power sounds pretty successful to me.

t. IRGC

>What happened?
Alexander happened. Then Rome happened, then Parthia happened, then the Sassanids happened and they had a bit more self-rule, then the Arabs happened and they lost it again, then the Mongols happened. Then everything went a bit weird, and after that they finally got back on their feet for a bit, but the Turks and the Uzbeks and the Indians kept happening. Then the British and the Russians and the Soviets and the Americans happened, but they just about managed to weather it. Then Islam happened again, but they managed to do it for themselves and without Arabs this time.

On another note, Persia is interesting as a source or vector of the ideal of an authoritarian state. The Achaemenid Empire was famously autocratic, but it was defeated by the Macedonians. Alexander adopted oriental Persian customs before his death, introducing them into the Hellenistic world. From Diocletian's reign onward, elements of Persian despotism were imported to Rome. Later on, the initially democratic and egalitarian spirit of the Rashidun and early Umayyad Caliphates was corrupted by temporal power, a significant amount of which came from Persian influences. Later, after the Abbasid Revolution, the capital of the Arab Empire was moved to Baghdad, in former Persian territory, and the orientalisation of the Empire and Islam itself accelerated.

>and be as advanced as the West

At least since the revolution their leaders are seeking success for their own nation, instead of acting as puppets to the United States.

>Is Ron Paul right and we really are responsible?
For a large part yes, but the world isn't black and white, societies aren't inherently more successful, they go through periods of flourishing and periods of decline.

yes they have an interesting and less savage culture compared to their neighbors. but you have to realize those lands were passed back and forth throughout history, owning them means nothing. by your metric, shouldn't greece be a superpower? the turks? mongolia?

> redpill me on...
read a book you dumbfuck nigger

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>by your metric, shouldn't greece be a superpower? the turks? mongolia?
None of those countries got half a continent of empty land thrown at them, full of resources and good climate. All of those countries were great powers at least for some time during their history.

>City lights indicate advanced civilizations.

KYS

Jimmy Carter happened.

Because of the Jews that run Western Civilization

It probably has something to do with jews.

They got distracted with trap porn.

K, Mahmood. Any snow in Michigan yet?

Those two pretty much did it

A good and decent people got invaded and then outbred by a worse and not-so-decent people. Same as what is happening in Europe and the US right now.

Define advanced civilization. Technologically/economically they are doing pretty well despite the sanctions, if you mean culture, they were mainly responsible for the birth of Islamic culture and has made great pieces of arts.
They are poorer than the West for sure, and live under Islamic law (though afaik they are prone to degeneracy when not in public), but I don't consider them inferior and have some respect for them.

>instead of acting as puppets to the United States.


You mean British and Russian puppets

That's haram. But according to Iranian Islamic law traps aren't.

>What happened?
The ceased being White. All of their accomplishments come from a time when they were still Nordic.

Nigger have you ever been to Tehran? Place is miserable

>ancient persia
>gets in dick measuring contest with only other major power at the time, byzantium
>fight each other for generations
>durka durka arabs go islam when goatfucker-sama dies, start invading shit
>byzantium and persia both exhausted from constant warfare
>persia gets its shit kicked in, loses 90% of its territory over a few decades
>byzantium fares slightly better and manages to save itself
>goatfuckers slaughter persia's army and all its heroes and royalty, raze its cities and loot its palaces
>arabs ban parsi language and zoroastrian/mazdesn faith, enforce arabic and goatfuckism
>persians experience one thousand years of getting cucked
>zoroastrians only allowed to practice again in iran like 10 years ago
>now a tiny irrelevant shithole, all its architecture and infrastructure destroyed, lineage and heritage destroyed, culture got Browned
>rape-baby of its former self, majority of its territory permanently lost, never respected by anyone again
>been a fucktoy of the jew-s-a since the 70's
>descendants of persia's last defenders now willingly worship islam to spit on the grave of their ancestors

The biggest cuckjob in known history.

they worshiped the noble god the Zoroaster preached about : the god of truth .
they were noble and always honest , excellent archers and riders , as well as road-builders with a fuckton of amazing and noble ceremonies , like the later christian ones.

later they also became good at getting loans (kike power) from Babylon , the giant proto-silk trade hub at the time.
also later their god-retard of an emperor partook in every orgy he wanted (usually the Babylonian ones since they were the most degenerate and reminded luciferians of the later West)
they fell to the occult ejaculations.

but since they were the first (as far as they knew) God-emperors they at some point really believed it and grew extremely retarded
example:
>invade greece
>fail due to inferior equipment and tactics
>start a rivalry with them greeks
>never remember to upgrade , never care for the how and the why you lost all your armies a shitton of times
>repeat

at one instance:
> construct a giant fleet
>incoming storm
>fail-tm. kek wills it.
>Persian emperor orders to whip the sea.literally

TL;DR
>Proto-Romans that devolved to nigger tier civ after believing in their divinity


USA analogue if the the degeneracy grows even deeper,but the USA god-kikes have also smart people build them super computas

got BTFO'd by Greeks twice

>literallynothingwrongwithislam

Iranian IQ is Arab level. What happened is the whites, yes fucking whites, that made Persia great to begin with fucked with Semites and Mobile, lowering their overall IQ and skills. Hence, today's Iran is dumb as shit. Iran is what Europe and America will turn into in about 100 years.

Whites got browned, the story

And Turks, twice...

>WE

Post Iranian QTs pls.

Slam happened only because kikes told mohamed of the great plague that had struck just after a total and epic war of survival had just ended between Zoroastrians and the Christians.

coincidence retard?

>mohamed being illiterate merchant/raider poorfag
>merchant
>"writes" a books

even up until the ottomans the orthodox saints that protected us enslaved Christians from the turk-controlled-church proclaimed against both Slam and Jewry.

>iranians
>white
There are more than 3 races you illiterate germanic bootlicker.

The shah and secular Persians were /ourguys/ and the Ayatollah was one of the original color revolutions carried out by Israel to make their strongest rival in the middle east into an evil caricature of itself that would attract sanctions like flies and not pose as a threat to Greater Israel. Ditto for Saudi Arabia, as they know a strong Iran could easily and happily push their shit in on the way to dominating the middle east.

There is literally nothing wrong with Iran and the only people who oppose strengthening ties with the Persians are paid puppets of the kikes and the Saudis.

But Mostly Islam.

This.
They are doing their best even after getting fucked by the sand-niggers and being infected with their anti-roman religion .

Islam happened to it.
Even with that crippling impediment, their society is the most successful of all Islamic societies.

Wouldn't be surprised that kikes were kiking.
goatfucker-sama was just a warlord, he only knew how to chop shit up with a sword, but it's like letting spics watch a wrestling match on tv. next thing you know they're out in the yard choking out the neighbor's dog and grabbing each other's greasy legs. goatfucker papa got the brown zergmen riled up and directed the lot of 80-iq cousinfuckers on who to rush. they had no tactics or equipment, just numbers and a lack of fear of death.
Pay debts.
>greek
>posting roman meme
This much lack of awareness that what the arabs did to persians is what the romans did to greeks.

Pretty much this.

Also consider 90% of the world is basically out to get them, including all of their neighbors, yet they are still winning on the geopolitical landscape and rapidly developing scientifically and economically.

>All logic says their society should be successful.

One of the last stronghold nations not cucked by Jews. It doesnt get much more 'successful' than that. Remember, the ones telling you about le ebil Iran are the same ones bashing Trump and telling you, yes (you), that you are literally Hitler for being right leaning in the political spectrum.

It shouldnt come as a shock to you that every person/organization/country the Jews cant have full control over is branded as 'bad' or 'evil'.

you forget that the romans never got past their "Larping as Greeks " phase until the west part died with them.

The Hellenistic world build by the Successor of Alexander lasted for millennia more until the jewvenetian invasion of the 4th cuckolick crusade

The first Frankish kings (all of northern europe's reason for being christian) never forgot to send a gift and a respectful ambassador until the cuckolicks crowned one of them emperor .

and plz dont say the HRE was not retarded in every way .

we are more romans that the romans were.that is not going to change .

The jew fears the hellenization of his people : read up who founded up Antioch i am currently researching on that .

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