Think about it. If you ever have the privilege of being able to fly a multi million dollar aircraft you better be experienced because the government’s budget for that one plane is probably ten times your net worth.
Additionally I’d imagine military piloting is way harder than commercial airline piloting because you can’t just put the plane in autopilot for 70% of the journey. Think about how many hours commercial airline pilots train to be able to actually be a pilot. I’d imagine it’ll be much worse for military pilots.
Or who knows maybe I’m wrong and the military will let any 18 year old dipshit command a plane/ship etc
Nathan Davis
For the most part, only officers are pilots. And all branches need more pilots, especially helo pilots. If you walk into a recuiting station with a 4 year degree, they will practically beg you to be a pilot.
Hunter Gomez
So with the degree thing (especially if it's a good one) is it just showing you have the work ethic and persistence to be a trustworthy pilot? I don't know if many people in America go into the military after a degree. Isn't usually people go into the military to help pay for a degree in burgerland?
Juan Carter
Depends on what you pilot. They will as mentioned probably allow helo/cargo pilots with glee if they have some academic merit.
If you want to be a stealth/sr71/b52/etc. pilot you need massive merit/exp and potentially undergo a thorough polygraph and some MkUltra (especially if you've got a nuclear load)
Aiden Diaz
Not if you're mildly colorblind
:(
Thomas Perry
My dick had a nuclear load
Juan Rivera
The airforce is dying for drone pilots
Christian Peterson
Here in the States you can fly Helicopters for the Army with just a Highschool degree.
It's called the High School to Flight School program.
Andrew Anderson
I'm worth more than those shitty planes. Fuck off.
Dylan Butler
According to Battlefield Earth, literal retard cavemen can pilot jets within like 2 weeks.
Jason Ross
Being an officer requires a 4 year degree. About 10 to 15% of the military are officers. Also, degree being in field is helpful, but unnecessary. I met so many fighter pilots with a criminal justice degree while I was in, rarely would you see one with aeronautical engineering or something.
Bentley Lopez
Dubs, checks out.
Joseph Hill
>f you ever have the privilege of being able to fly a multi million dollar aircraft you better be experienced Experienced in flying jet fighters? Where do you get that kind of experience prior to joining? You don't. Nor do they require any. They have other serious requirements however.
But you're right in being able to be a pilot is very, very rare. You have to be short to fit in the cockpit. You have to have perfect vision. And they really like the high math scores. A lot. And there's probably a ton of qualifiers I have no idea of. Willpower alone won't get you there.
Carson Reyes
Jesus, i didnt know the army was that desperate. I knew about their flying warrant program, though
Matthew Rodriguez
>where do you get that kind of experience prior to joining
Simulators
Isaiah Powell
People do both. I know a slut that wanted to be a doctor and plans on enlisting as a combat medic to pay her 100k+ student debts. It's a crock of shit for taxpayers.
Cameron Diaz
I want to be a pilot but our military only has about a hundred combat planes
Isaiah Robinson
So they won't take you unless you have a lot of experience playing Flight Simulator 2018? Has nothing to do with it. Sorry. They actually prefer you untrained. No bad habits.
Brandon Peterson
There is no preference, they are too desperate for pilots for the most part. As long as you can get through OCS and dont have fucked up eyes, you can go to flight school.
Connor Myers
This. Even Burger King keeps the experienced people away from the newbies. This way, the restaurant trains the new hires THEIR way. No oldster is going to say, "Here is a shortcut". When I was in, an absolute noob shot 40/40 at the firing range. He had zero experience with rifles until basic training. Guys that had shot guns as kids in boy scouts were pissed. They wondered why experience didn't mean shit, and actually was a detriment.
Matthew Gonzalez
>be me >double ba's (hist-econ) >graduate, plan to go to law school >marines, army beg me to come for interviews >interviews go well >oh user are you taking any meds? >i take a daily vyvanse >lol cant join then user >rip, start law school instead >user, come back for interviews >go to interviews, go well again >oh user are you taking any meds? >i take a daily vyvanse >lol cant join then user
Bentley Baker
>beg you to be a pilot hahahha. You obviously don't know shit about army aviation. Becoming a helicopter pilot in the army is extremely competitive and has no shortage of highly qualified applicants.
Charles Rodriguez
Because army is only service branch in US that allows non-officers to fly things with meat cargo.
>The airforce is dying for drone pilots They are lacking all kinds of pilots, especially fighter pilots, with some experience. Reasons are complicated, biggest one is probably Obama. He fucked with military budget sequestration (lot of positions made redundant, like flight instructors), his personnel policy increased stupid bureaucratic shit (as opposed to necessary bureaucratic shit) like Equal Opportunity office fucking with everyone, lot of people that joined after 9/11 ran into the usual bureaucratic mess that is officers career once they cease to be lieutenants (flying desk instead of planes most of the time) and China/India driving civilian pilots salaries up from the rock bottom those reached about decade ago.
Aaron Barnes
The fact that you need a 4 year(Bachelors) degree to even be an officer is absolutely retarded.
Logan Murphy
>Think about it. If you ever have the privilege of being able to fly a multi million dollar aircraft you better be experienced because the government’s budget for that one plane is probably ten times your net worth
and you're kompletley wrong with the first sentence
the militairy in general wants to keep the pilot alive that is the highes priority a plane might cost you 15million dollar but the training for the pilot is estimated to be x10 more
Cameron Cook
Orion RAAF pilot here Can't speak for the US but here only the very best are considered for fighter pilot roles.
Parker Price
Arent pilots being replaced by AI already?
Aiden Turner
How do you become an officer in the us army?
Here in argentina if you want to be an officer in any branch of the armed forces you finish highschool and get into a military academy for about 4 to 5 years and you get out being and officer with an university title.
Camden Nelson
>Pilots must be 64 to 77 inches tall when standing, and 34 to 40 inches tall when sitting. They must weigh 160 to 231 pounds, depending on height.
Also corrected to 20/20 vision be it glasses or corrective surgery is allowed. The math part is true, if you want to fly a fighter you need to have top marks in every evaluation and be top of your UPT class.
Justin Miller
>They are lacking all kinds of pilots, especially fighter pilots, with some experience. Reasons are complicated, biggest one is probably Obama.
desu this worked under Obama because he underfunded the services so badly they were constantly lacking flight ready aircraft
an officer and a gentleman ;)
lol no
Samuel Martin
You guys can't get enough fighter pilots because Aussies aren't very great so they actually attempt to hire American military pilots. Look it up.
Oliver Reed
It's super hard. I went to a Navy recruiter office for OCS. This is what they are looking for though. People do go Pilot route. Everything else is pretty easy to fill, but it's fucking ridiculous. It's 2 years of training, 6 years active, and then 2 reserve. You are on a ship most of that time span. You live and breath flying and even then, the odds of you flying a combat aircraft are slim to none.
Ayden Reyes
There's a couple ways. You can go to a military academy, do ROTC while earning a bachelors degree, or commission straight off the streets.
Justin Robinson
One of several methods: >go to service academy, e.g. westpoint >go to military academy, e.g. the citadel, and have rotc scholarship >go to non-military 4 year uni, have rotc scholarship >go to 2 year military academy (rareish) >get a 4 year degree, talk to recruiter, go through basic training & officer candidate school
Liam Jackson
You guys have some great pilots but your support and logistics is a mess.
Tyler Cruz
i too, know that feel
Noah Gonzalez
Yeah here too but is different being an officer from a military academy than a university, only the officers from a military academy can become pilots or marines, the ones from university usually are doctors, etc (depending on their uni degree)
Owen Baker
What does being an officer entail? Do you outrank cannom fodder marines amd leutenants?
Tyler Morgan
>retards here think they just need a degree there are physical and mental tests you will be physically incapable of passing, for example colorblindness and your bodies ability to withstand high G's. That's just the tip of the iceberg and most are funneled into ground support roles after failing (which most do). They will headhunt those they want early in the selection process and make it hard as fuck for anyone outside of those chosen. Possible to pass, extremely hard, fighter pilot roles - almost impossible unless you've been preparing from a young age >I have a degree and a good work ethic lol
Jaxson Murphy
>helo pilots
Enjoy settling with power. (Death.)
Elijah Perry
I never said I would do it
Thomas Smith
That or you can be autistic and become a CWO.
Caleb Rodriguez
A slut joining the armed forces. YouDontSay.gif
Jayden Perry
>10 to 15% of the military are officers I think it's much higher for the AF
Benjamin Phillips
>desu this worked under Obama because he underfunded the services so badly they were constantly lacking flight ready aircraft
It goes further than Obama, but he fucked up things more than previous admins. US military has been mismanaged since the end of the cold war and so called peace divident aka budget cuts. No-one really thought stuff over on long term basis, not Bush 1.0, not Clinton or anyone since then. After 9/11 modernization and re-organization programs have been largely avoided due to operational concerns and budget increases have been spent on operational costs and immediate needs like purchasing MRAP's. Basically minimal fixes to bigger issues to keep things running and armament programs running.
Last time things in US military have been actually thought over and re-organized have been in 70's after post Vietnam war budget cuts and getting rid of conscription. Basically Reagan just added more money to military already reformed by mostly Ford and Carter.
Jaxon Gomez
And how badly, would you say, would the Air Force or Navy be hurting for fixed wing pilots?
Adrian Cruz
>he takes a mind-altering drug and still thinks anyone associated with govt will touch him Maybe you need to pop a few more pills.
Camden Phillips
An officer generally means having a commission. There are non-commissioned officers, but they are limited in rank. You would know that if you weren't a shit scum country.
Lucas James
Because I'm the fucking man when I play ace combat
David Price
Its platform specific, I wouldnt hold my breath for f22s or f35s if thats what you're hoping for. Other things like E-2s or C-2s are possible. F16 for airforce or F18 for navy are likely for fighters.
Anthony Thomas
I wouldn't be able to fly jets anyways, my math skills are shit. Just as long as I get to fly something I'd be happy.
Anthony Gray
>NEET losers fantasizing about being top gun while they wear coke-bottle glasses and wipe cheeto grease on their shirts
this thread
Jayden Garcia
You have no idea how hard it is to qualify, biologically speaking, to be a military pilot. You get rejected instantaneously for defects that most people go their whole lives without realizing they even have them, such as a 0.7% displacement toward red perception in a particular tone of blue. Need glasses? Forget about it. You got Lasik? Max par, get out. Oh, you have 0.6 diopters of astigmatism? Fuck you sweaty, with the other 85% of the population. >Why do people just think they can be a military pilot? You are incredibly retarded and don't know what you're talking about. >Think about how many hours commercial airline pilots train to be able to actually be a pilot. Like 300. Not really a lot. You can easily become a pilot in under a year if you have enough money to pay for the expenses of the training. The issue is really just the money. You are trying to imply something that doesn't work like you think at all. >Or who knows maybe I’m wrong Yes. >and the military will let any 18 year old dipshit command a plane/ship etc No. You're twice a retard.
Charles Mitchell
>me >normal, functioning adult regardless of meds >increased concentration on meds
>you >retard trying to score a quick burn by conflating dextroamphetamines that increase concentration and alertness with anti-psychotics
desu everyone should be on some dextroamph derivative
Chase Murphy
american fighter pilots get 180 hours of practice annually, if i remember correctly.
Julian Reed
Easy now
Adrian Rogers
I heard you basically can't fit into fighter jets if you're taller than about 5'6".
Can anyone confirm that fighter pilots are all manlets?
Justin Scott
that literally makes no sense
Jack Myers
>>Think about how many hours commercial airline pilots train to be able to actually be a pilot. >Like 300. He said commercial airline pilots. You need 1500 flight time minimum.
Nathan White
>Pilots have to meet the Air Force's height, weight and physical conditioning requirements. They must be 64 to 77 inches tall when standing, and 34 to 40 inches tall when sitting >77 inches, or 6'4
Jaxon Rivera
Anyone here do research for the military? It’s something I want to do and have the proper connections to get interviews for.
Isaac Scott
Justify it in your drug-addled brain however you want, but the reality is no one who knows your condition will touch you with a 10 ft. pole.
Cameron Lee
Academy graduates have a better chance of receiving a pilot slot, but any officer who meets the minimum qualifications can get one.
Mason Walker
apparently you only need the FIRST YEAR of a bachelor if you're a girl in this retarded gender exclusivity mess of ours special privileges: >All your university degree fees paid for >A salary while you complete your flying hours >Your practical flying hours paid for, and >As little as three years service obligation after receiving your wings.
Liam Hernandez
>77 inches, or 6'4 Is that for fighter planes, or in general?
Robert Brooks
What do they do if youkve got a graduste degree? Will a general beg you to enlist?
Jeremiah Parker
I meant to say ANY one who knows of your condition. You're an addict to a mind-altering drug. Either taper yourself off and reapply in a couple years or forget doing anything government or govt contract related.
Blake Williams
Wrong. In México you need 10 for ultra light, 50 to work in transportation, and 100 for airline. Then at 300 you can become captain and be the main guy. Sorry that your system milks you for cash.
Oliver Anderson
I met my husband in civilian commercial ground school before he was accepted into naval flight training.
The training to be a military pilot is definitely more intense than training to be a civilian pilot. The medicals and other tests (ergonomics, etc) are alot more involved. If you are Navy/MC and going to the boat, there are extra eye exams/depth perception tests that exceed the FAA medicals for civilians.
There is a lot of math involved so they screen for that aptitude as well.
There is alot of pressure as well. Every flight is a graded flight. I don't know about the USAF but in the N/MC, your grades go out to four decimal points as your final grade determines who gets assigned to what aircraft so it's highly competitive.
Some of the non-flying tests I am not sure I would have been able to pass. The helo dunker for example. I would have panicked and failed.
Xavier Rivera
False, i worked on F18s and others for many years. Im 6'1", fit in cockpit just fine with canopy closed. Quite comfy, too.
Daniel Garcia
>In México There's your problem.
Brayden Smith
Applicant here--this user speaks the truth. You better be 20/20, perfect hearing and not a single medical issue.
Josiah Collins
You're still not making an actual argument, rather flailing about like a retard since I called you out for making a dumbass conflation.
>but the reality is no one who knows your condition will touch you with a 10 ft. pole.
No federal agency has similar restrictions and the US military at-large has been easing their restrictions for the last year on those taking dextroamphs.
You want to try again, or are you done shitting the bed?
Landon Carter
>flag >husband Get the fuck out of here you faggot.
Thomas Hernandez
>Even Burger King keeps the experienced people away from the newbies.
Ryan White
I don't know about military but I know a lot of airline pilots who browse Sup Forums. Pilots are largely conservative white men.
Aiden Brown
>wanting to fly airplanes What are you 12 >not jumping out of airplanes Fucking cucks
The beta pilot vs the Chad Paratrooper. Get rekt legs. Keep on dreaming
Oliver Morgan
SR71 was retired 17 years ago. Satellites do their job now.
Cooper Rogers
Please, go and try and apply. I'll wait.
Christian Wright
i was a military pilot, ama i guess
yes, lots of manlets, some tall guys too, can't be too tall or you'd leave your legs behind in the event of an ejection
depends on the country, big budget = lots of hours
no need to be good at maths, just some formulas to learn
this is mostly correct, it's impossible if you're not lucky enough to be medically fit, but stuff like high Gs you can train for
Alexander Kelly
>the best counter he can make
Absolutely pathetic
Oliver Cook
I'm 6 foot 5 and have giant shoulders and I used to take meds for anxiety can I fly planes?
Justin Ross
What a fucking waste of taxpayer's cash >imma defending our freedom *bombs innocents*
Angel Gray
HAHAHA.
Go talk to an OSO and get back to me.
The Marines are hurting for pilots because its a branch where you need to learn to lead marines on the ground first, then you can become a pilot. Also the wing is in horrible shape right now. Not many people can qualify to be both an aviator and a PT stud in the marines.
Naval aviation requires you to be a genius so good luck getting into that also.
Army aviation allows enlisted to become warrant officers to fly but now you have to compete against the unwashed masses of the enlisted.
And air force, well possibly the best deal out there but last time I checked they were super competitive also and they were pushing people into drones.
Suprised the AF are hurting for fixed wing pilots because when I was in quantico everybody wanted to fly fixed wing in the marines but couldnt get into the AF OCS. There must be something going on there also with their wing being in bad shape.
Ethan Wood
user is lying. The Air Force and Navy prefer if the candidates have no prior flight experience.
Aaron Sanchez
No, it depends on the number of slots that open and up and projected future needs.
Academy guys don't have any advantage over other officers. It's based on cutting scores.
Aaron Smith
Identify as a woman then
Xavier Lewis
I've already told you that no one will accept your medical condition. You refuse to believe the reality of the situation. Get over it!
Oliver Jones
That's why they do not lie about UFO's.
Aaron Russell
The military loves tradition, so officers need degrees no matter how useless.
When you sit down and think about why you have 2 classes of workers in the military. The answer is that in the past you didn't have enough people that could read or write, and you couldn't trust them to follow an order.
Those are no longer valid reasons so the solution is no longer valid. But the military loves tradition and hates history. The two most important reasons to military victory in the past was technological and method superiority, and training or ability superiority. A military that sticks to tradition even when that tradition is no longer valid is ignoring victories that came from innovation.
Alexander Nguyen
Yea it depends on branch, navy and AF have a higher percentage than army and marines because of the nature of the jobs. I think it was 1-12 officers to the enlisted when i was in the marines.
And no way, Navy wouldnt take anybody who wasnt a math or engineering major when i was applying.
Marines would take anything like my accounting degree hence why I chose that route. But its because there is a 30% drop rate at OCS among men. So finding a PT stud who is also a natural leader and math major is harder to find than just 2 of those.
Jackson Cook
Chicks can be faggots? You learn something new everyday. Unless you're not aware of the 99's. GTFO.
Camden Davis
>no need to be good at maths, just some formulas to learn For real? Because when I say shit I really mean shit.
Carson Reyes
It depends on how long your legs are actually because of the ejection seat. They will measure you out during your flight physical.
Carson Jones
That's unbelievably dangerous. And a reason I never fly turd world flag carriers.
Jaxson King
have you ever been hard in the cockpit?
Landon Jackson
>military asks me to interview repeatedly >i post story on here >some random user is obsessed with it
k guy
>I've already told you that no one will accept your medical condition.
and I should care why?
Your entire post has centered around insulting me for taking dextroamphs, rather than making any substantive addition to this thread, fuckwad.
Jackson Williams
Yeah except Air Force OTS is backed up until 2019 or some absurd shit like that.