What is Sup Forumss opinion on slavery? Would you support a policy that, for example...

What is Sup Forumss opinion on slavery? Would you support a policy that, for example, would enslave low-IQ whites (90 and under) and all non-whites? Could you live with yourself, knowing that there are gulag-tier camps placed all around your country, which you indirectly profit off from?

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Essentially every american would be enslaved.

Straight up slavery by actual owning of human beings is unethical in every form.

Not only that it dilutes a society that works best by having its people being free and unified, having slaves slows down the ability for unified freedom to assemble in its national form free from the tyranny of the state which possesses the only real means to keep human ownership going.

It's why communism and every structured attempt to own human beings fails, freedom in a structured unified form is way more prosperous for humans to achieve maximum efficiency.

Serfdom was basically slavery of low IQ whites

stop suggesting we're all racist


nigger

Slavery damages the Volk by disenfranchising the vast majority of the polity creating a class of socially immobile have-nots who cannot advance no matter how hard they work ruled over by slave owners and preyed upon by even more disenfranchised slaves.

Slavery breeds resentment laziness corruption and degeneracy.

No fuck slavery, capitalism works much better in exploiting the worker.

>Straight up slavery by actual owning of human beings is unethical in every form.

Who defines ethics though?

>Not only that it dilutes a society that works best by having its people being free and unified

Those are pretty empty platitudes though. If the borders of "slave" and "free man" are defined well, there are arguments to support that society would work better. If we are only left with high-IQ free whites, it would work in the same manner as eugenics. The slaves would create a permanent underclass which would be taught to serve the free class of people.

>It's why communism and every structured attempt to own human beings fails

Communism failed because everyone was essentially a slave, and because it was a closed economic system. I'm talking about a society where the free men are actually free to participate in global commerce.

>Slavery damages the Volk

But the slaves would actually be the worst of the Volk. This would only empower the high-IQ Volk, and work like eugenics.

>making a distinction by race, not only by intelligence
Moron.

Slavery and low-wage labor systems are unsustainable and are systems only globalists employ

Even if some non-whites (I’m excluding some groups here, like the Japanese) are smart, low IQ’s are in their genes. A smart black man is a statistical outlier, and his kids will most likely have low IQ’s.

How are they unsustainable? Slavery is actually extremely sustainable. You can work them to death and you don’t need to pay them, apart from spending only a little on some food for them.

>imply we are not just slave to another

>IQ is determined by the whole population, not the parents
[citation needed]

>But the slaves would actually be the worst of the Volk
What does that matter? You're basically arguing for communism, you'd get so dependent on this free slave labor that you'd be unable to exist without it. After the 90 IQ people, the 100 IQ would be next until it's only the elite that rule.

Ethics as a whole is a philosophy that boils down to what harm can be done to others may be done to me in terms of policing human actions through thought.

Low IQ whites exist and simply saying we can define and take freedoms of humans to be bought and sold pans out to total control over all children and human beings by constantly defining what can be made a slave. By doing that you subject the populace to a hellish state that maintains total control over other peoples lives for the sake of labor that could be made more prosperous and easier to dull out if it was voluntary.

>empty platitudes
Only states that still have slavery are ones that are failures in world governing, human freedoms, human prosperity and every level of living standards and measures of human success. Empty platitudes my ass, slavery makes a society weaker not stronger as it makes the populace that should rely on itself rely on foreign labors if they get slaves that way, or rely on domestic slavery which implies a hellish state like a communist one which has total control over the populace and thus will fail as humans are far more prosperous when left to their own devices and incentivizations to do better work and achieve results on a do or die basis.

>communism failed because everyone was a slave
Exactly, slaves make far less productive forms of human capital and are only used by an aristocratic hierarchical class to exploit. Having slaves implies lack of human rights which implies a state that doesn't abide a social contract which means group cohesion in the nation is weakened and all around less prospective in terms of making the nation wealthier, productive and unified in common means and in the long term.

Slavery is nigger tier economics not meant for an industrialized nation, free market based nation, ethno-nation as it brings in foreigners it literally incentivizes inwards, or any state that wants human rights.

Slavery is way too inefficient, capitalism is way better.

Sterilization for everyone under 90 IQ regardless of race would be easier to enforce and justify.

>implying that low-IQ whites aren't already slaves

Genes don't work like you think. Even if your mom and dad are both blonde you could be born with black hair if the gene for black hair exists within them.

TL;DR have everyone take an IQ test between 21-25 years old. If they score below 85-90, they're immediately put into a gulag type location where they work for very little to no pay but adequate (on the lower side) sleeping apartments, etc.
The test can be retaken every 3-5 years, but you will be forced to retake the test every year for the next 10 if you break the 90+ IQ barrier.
Basically fixing genetic disabilities and fixing the world desu.

Modern day work is not so different than slavery for the average normie, therefore your question is rendered redundant, since what you are asking that theoretically could happen is already happening.
The real question is: Are you happy being a slave?

Slavery still exists in Africa. People pay "house boys/girls" an insignificant amount of money for labor (usually about $20 a month), they live on your property, receive one day off a week, and eat rice and beans.

Its a good system. It gives the rich cheap labor, and gives the poor a better life than they would have had otherwise.

Slavery is okay, you just shouldn't be allowed to abuse slaves. For example, if you rape a house girl or beat her for doing bad work, you'll go to jail. But you can just replace her instead, if you're not satisfied.

Slavery is good if you aren't importing niggers like America did

But slavery doesn't mean there couldn't be capitalism. Capitalism for the free man, slavery for the slave. The slave labor would only be an "addition" to the state income

This.

There's also a reversion to the means that occurs to the children of exceptional individuals.

If you want to create a state that says they can enslave the children of the most prosperous individuals if they come out inferior you are no better than the USSR. Not protecting your citizens rights and ensuring a healthy nation where each can thrive on their own merits is ensuring you waste human capital.

IQ is not controlled by a single gene. The probability of only the good genes being inherited from a moron is very low.
And if your dad and mom are both blonde, you're more likely to be blonde than if they were both red haired.

>What is Sup Forumss opinion on slavery

((((WRONG))))
Except if you own money to someone.

>dilutes a society that works best by having its people being free and unified
Yeah all these spics and niggers running around driving unregistered dirtbikes around speeding down sidewalks because the cops wont do shit about them, collecting welfare and living with their shitty parents is really diluting society by getting rid of them.

>freedom in a structured unified form is way more prosperous for humans to achieve maximum efficiency.
>giving people the ability to breed with low iqs is really reaching maximum efficiency
huh. really makes me t... hm cant think of the word i was looking for, now this is going to bother me.

No, because slavery has no use in the modern world. To keep a slave, you have to feed it, clean it, provide it dwelling and keep enough security around to beat them to submission once they start getting uppidy.

There is no point in maintaining slave camps.

the only smart black guys i've ever met were half-white... there are no smart black guys, only ones that were bred out.

The weak deserves to be ruled by the strong. It makes sense

>niggers
Here because of slavery, they bred them up and now we have way more to deal with than where ever brought over.

A free society allows the people to choose whether or not their borders are open, and any intelligent person would want a control of immigration as it's the defining characteristic of a nation state at all. The majority of Americans want controlled borders, any society that chooses not to have them will be a lesson to the world on what happens. Ala Sweden.

Because we have no use for low IQ workers that where already here before we had the immigration act of 1967 change that?

Taking away the ability for people to breed is essentially giving the state total control over every single human beings life, might as well live in the USSR and see what controlled planning does for the prosperity of human beings.

Taking away the gibs for low IQ workers and providing a voluntary eugenics program for desterilization or something similar is a much better form of control than giving the state total power over the population.

You're not getting me. Slave labor is inefficient compared to wage labor. There's a lot of cost associated with raising and overseeing slaves that would be much better spent just having them be free.

Slavery is only temporarily on hold in western nations while we have such an abundance of energy to burn. Once it becomes uneconomical to use tractors over animals we'll go back to using them to pull carts and shit around the farm and then eventually the economic slaves of today will become the real ones of tomorrow.

It's inevitable and only possible to maintain in a multicultural hellscape because it's impossible to enslave your own people without society collapsing. By enslaving the hordes of imported people though you can avoid all those pitfalls and actually thrive provided you have a decent police force that keeps the niggers in place because without a decently armed police force around to tame them eventually shit's going to go dawn of the planet of the apes like what's happened in south africa.

slavery was necessary before some high IQ's invented the steam engine, since then slaves are obsolete

low IQ populations should be reduced trough eugenic programs, encouragement of abortion, promotion of degeneracy to help them self-destruct

breitbart.com/big-government/2014/12/07/obamacare-architect-calls-abortion-of-marginal-children-a-social-good/

youtube.com/watch?v=S9kTeEshewY

slavery is bad for poor people and hurts the economy
Its also the reason why ancient greeks did not develop the steam engine

No. I would not like to profit indirectly from salves. If there would be any kind of slavery than I would like to have the option to own them myself.
>only low-IQ slaves
I don't think that would make much sense. Give it a few years and there will be nothing left for them to do, as machines are taking over and would be much more cost effective even than unpaid employees.
>what ind of rules to use?
Very easy. Just stick to the bible.

>And if your dad and mom are both blonde, you're more likely to be blonde than if they were both red haired.
This is true, to a degree.

Slavery is mostly obsolete due to automation.

true
our job is now to eliminate the weak
infiltrating the left has so far proved to be very effective

nber.org/papers/w6034
nber.org/papers/w12150

How's slavery different from wage cucking?

>What is Sup Forumss opinion on slavery?

Its normal; was the norm for hundred of thousands of years. Their are more dead people in the ground that if I could rise up they would be 99% far right.

Far right is the norm.

Great post my dude. Took the words out of my mouth for ethics.

It's the fuckin golden rule. Don't treat people like shit unless you want the same handed down to you.

Everybody should get a fair shake. But sloth, greed, and the like should not be encouraged, and if that necessitates punishment, so be it.

slaves have been breed for centuries

rulers kill off the disobedient, and let the docile live

the nature of the slave is to be submissive to the rulers, no force is required

if you wan to build a nation of Nietzsche's over-men, than you must do the opposite, kill the weak and enable the strong