Why did we go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Why did we go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq?
I've heard most of the stuff related to oil and Israel before and I'm not entirely convinced.
The Israel and muh Jooz narrative doesn't seem entirely solid since Israel seems much more like a puppet state of the US than vice-versa and the oil thing doesn't make sense since the US easily could have gotten in and done whatever it wanted in Iraq instead of doing everything else it did.

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>Why did we go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq?
>I've heard most of the stuff related to oil and Israel before and I'm not entirely convinced.
>The Israel and muh Jooz narrative doesn't seem entirely solid since Israel seems much more like a puppet state of the US than vice-versa and the oil thing doesn't make sense since the US easily could have gotten in and done whatever it wanted in Iraq instead of doing everything else it did.

Natural recources geopolitics. (surrounding Russia)

iraq war

We went there to kill some Muslims after 9/11 because we're not no bitches that make prayer hashtags and do nothing about it later. Both wars were justified

don't worry about it goyim

>Anything besides Israel is stable
BS

>Israel seems much more like a puppet state of the US than vice-versa

That's where you are wrong kiddo. Look at the Israeli lobby in Washington and notice anything (like it's size in comparison to every other lobby). Read a "The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements."
Then get back to us.

>Libya stable

>Israel seems much more like a puppet state of the US than vice-versa

Lmao
youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98

How old is this map
>Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen
>Stable

Because mainly Saddamn wanted to change the standard of the petro dollar and sell the oil for euros or gold among other things but thst is the main reason.

> The american Dream, the movie

Afghanistan was about controlling the drug trade.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

>In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. The Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas, roughly three quarters of the world's supply of heroin at the time.[16] The ban was effective only briefly due to the deposition of the Taliban in 2002

A few months before we went to war in Afghanistan, the Taliban received an award from the U.N. in honor of their campaign to cripple Opium production. The Taliban reduced Afghanistan's opium production to its lowest levels ever.

Now, after we showed up and did our thing, Afghanistan is producing more opium than the next two countries combined. U.S. Troops patrol the fields to protect them from thieves and saboteurs.

tl;dr We went to war to in Afghanistan to take over and expand the country's opium trade.

Afghanistan: to depose the Taliban and capture Osama BinLaden.

Iraq: much more complicated because everyone had different objectives:
For George W Bush it was about finishing the job his father had started, and succeeding where his father had failed.
For Colin Powell it was about preventing Iraq getting weapons of mass destruction.
For the neocons it was about deposing Saddam, and challenging the regional dominance of Iran.
And of course for many others it was about the oil.

BTW your map is long out of date.

>We went there to kill some Muslims after 9/11
While sucking Saudi dick more? You know, the guys who orchestrated 9/11?

Well timed post.

>Afghanistan: to depose the Taliban and capture Osama BinLaden.

wrong.

For the oil you stoopid nigga

afghanistan because of 9/11.

Bush sent our troops in as a matter of family honor after Saddam plotted to kill his father.

so the real reason was personal. it had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction. imagine a hollywood movie where the bad guy plots to kill the main character's dad, and the main character vows, "i'll get you for that." that's how Bush saw it.

Install the dollar as standard oil currency

For Jews.

Mexico went to war with the US to prevent US regional dominance.

Not credible. Opium production isn't that valuable.

Those in power didn't want to invade Afghanistan, but they couldn't contrive a link between BinLaden and Iraq.


Unlikely - even by the turn of the millennium the petrodollar was unimportant - financial markets convert one currency to another easily enough.

Even under the most optimistic scenarios, the cost of invading Iraq was far higher to America than the cost of oil being sold in Euros.

CHECK THEM

Saudi Arabia isn't stable?

Also isn't Israel trying to expand?

The USA needs to protect the petro dollar system or else their economy collapses. Sadam was trying to sell oil in non dollars. Thus USA made wmd 911 excuse to invade

>Yemen
>Stable
>Iran
>Unstable

In what universe?

What? To avenge his father? Lay off the anime and stop spreading fake news virgin

To cut off a russian pipeline, but that wasnt the chief reason. Saddam had goals to break from the petrodollar. Syria is included in the pipeline bit, libya on the petrodollar bit.

>financial markets convert one currency to another easily enough.

Pretty much every currency is basically pegged to the USD, and developing countries have to acquire USD in order to get enough oil. The dollar is the fundamental paradigm of the global economy, and the trade of oil in dollars is one of the major (but not the only) pillars holding it up. The defense of the USD as the main form of global liquidity is one of our primary foreign policy goals, and the destruction or mitigation of the USD is a major policy goal of our rivals, namely Russia and Iran. China would also like to see the USD fall, but their economy is so closely tied to our own that it is not to their benefit to directly attack the USD, whereas Iran and Russia have struggled to make gains geopolitically and believe that the fall of the USD would give them an opportunity to seize power again.

In addition to the appealing ideological goals of crushing dictators and jihadists, the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were seen as a means of consolidating control of the Middle East and removing future risk of an anti-dollar axis. One might argue that the US' actions are pushing its rivals together into an axis, but in the eyes of the US such an axis would have inevitably formed anyway, and it was believed that striking first would mitigate future problems.