Have you ever argued with a lefty in-person? How did that go?

Have you ever argued with a lefty in-person? How did that go?

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it ended in tears for them

Cognitive dissonance is no joke.

we got into a heated argument and started wrestling out of frustration with each others viewpoints
and then we had sex

I don't argue with the mentally ill.

It's rude, they can't help their disabilities.

>arguing with a lefty

Something wasn't right, so I left

I was on the debate team for years and had to take on people from all different viewpoints. Liberals were the worst though

Only time I did was when we had both taken shrooms and watched Elysium. I was too poetic about it and didn't get any feedback until the next day when he blocked me on every social media platform

very few lefties in my AO. the few that I have talked to just calmed up with "I don't believe that" in response to some stats or facts they weren't aware of. I give 0 fucks to convince people, so I just end with "ok, well, that's that then."

lefties literally dont argue with you in person OP. they block you on facebook, delete you from their phone and refuse all contact with you if you disagree with them. that's how they've rolled for over a decade now. the only exception to this is the ones who just get indignant and flip out in public. feminists used to do this a shitload a few years ago back when they thought all of society supported their views. nobody really takes feminists seriously now and now pretty much everyone is just too afraid to share their views in public with others.

but the whole "actually talking about your differences" thing is only for righties

They don't consider my points at all... they're even in the damn engineering department. Well, if you got rid of 3 of the 4 women there, then it'd be fine...the one girl is quite feminine.

With them looking bad, but the funniest thing was they had this sence of superiority even after they got BTFO.

It ended with my fist covered in their blood. My wrath was terrible and swift. They broke the NAP by tainting my oxygen with their pestilent mind-degeneracy. They had to pay the ultimate price.

this. if you beat them with statistics or facts they just claim they don't believe it or just state
>well I still just think you're wrong
and go in circles because it turns from them attempting to understand to just doing any mental back flips/tricks to win the debate. the left is scum.

>tfw no kayla gf

>also
Pro-tip: Most non-western cultures regard women as property, so ask them how a feminist can value multiculturalism. Watch their heads explode.

The reality-based community can't handle the gentle strokes of what reality actually is.

Waste of time. Easier to find a smart lamp post. Then folks will just think you are crazy.

>slapped her
>raped her
>she converted

I live in a moderately large city and basically every political conversation is an "argument" with lefties. The default is left and if you go off script you're basically looked at like a retard. They think they're so smart. When they're in groups it's even worse. They scoff off arguments and roll their eyes thinking it's a strong rebuttal. There is no "arguing" with a modern lefty. There's just frustration.

MFW

Yes.

"Well whatever," "no I don't agree, I still think you're wrong"

Yes, many times. It's always the same response: righteous indignation and personal insults.

Their rage was delicious. I start shaking with anticipation, like i am on a hunt. It's like feeding off peoples fear, only it is anguish and frustration. Fucking delicious.

the only way to ever get information through to them ppl is if ye carter to them like the special snowflakes they are

we're all immigrants. slam dunk nigger yea. eye roll

Progressivism, the most widespread form of modern leftism, is literally a secular religion/mystery cult of power. It displaces theistic traditions by replacing metaphysical superstitions with philosophical mysteries, such as humanity, progress, equality, democracy, justice, environment, community, peace, etc. None of these concepts, as defined in orthodox progressivist doctrine, is even slightly coherent. All can absorb arbitrary mental energy without producing any rational thought.

This is why you will very, very rarely encounter a leftist who is willing to debate you in good faith, especially not in the wild. They will almost always resort to shunning tactics/public shaming or accusations of violence on your part

So they're basically children, got that.

I still highly encourage people to attempt this kind of shit, because the worst that can happen is that you plant a seed. Much like how I never listened to my parents as a kid but their words stuck with me and "clicked" eventually.

You just have to make them aware of your position so they at least know the options, and the option of WN and far right can spring up in moments of doubt about the leftist paradigm

That's how the 19-30 y/o crowd operates around here. It's sad, but at the same time it makes me happy because I know they're too retarded to have any impact on modern politics.

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good analysis IMO

also good digits

All the time. Usually they just tell me I don't have feelings and that I'm racist once we get to illegal immigration.

Wish had a wife like her.
Where to find those?

None of them are rational and can't argue without the superior backing of their anecdotal evidence.
Save your breath and your brain cells

Yes my parents multiple times.

I can't wait until I get to put them in a rest home- don't expect 5 star service you parasites.

They stopped responding and got angry.

It did not end well for them....

Gross. Stop being a little faggot brat. Your parents gave you life, the least you can do is respect them you little slime

chink detected

Regularly. They usually wind up very very angry, whilst I'm laughing heartily.
Also this.

I used to get in honest to God shouting matches with a liberal coworker in the back room. It was a grocery store job that I worked in my late teens, he was a 40-something. Our coworkers used to encourage it because it was hilarious and watch it as a spectator sport.

He was fucking nuts, and while I generally don't start anything, I never back down. It got pretty ugly sometimes. I'm surprised we weren't ever reprimanded, it got pretty bad.

She's mine.

>I still highly encourage people to attempt this kind of shit, because the worst that can happen is that you plant a seed
no the worst that could happen is a 28 year old 300 pound child having an autistic fit in your proximity

I stole some of the words from Moldbug - How Dawkins got pwned
gist.github.com/jart/b73868081a5e1a1c5cf0
Probably the most thorough breakdown of the roots progressivism I've read. Some people would say Mencius MOldbug just an obscurantist laying down cover for his coethnic Jews but I don't tend to believe that line

Lefties never debate me

They usually will bring up some retarded lefty talking to me, assuming that I am a liberal faggot like them (we are in chicago), then I tell them I don't agree with that because of x, y, and z.

Telling people you were voting Trump in 2016 was pretty edgy. Usually people would just ask a few questions to get an idea of where I'm coming from and then back off.

Never-Trumper Christian republicans on the other hand, THAT shit gets nasty for me. I have actually lost friendships with people over that.

Their arguments for hating Trump are usually "his rhetoric is dangerous", "he lies", "he's not really a Christian or a conservative", and "he is foul".

I try to explain to them that neo-cons are worthless and they are usually libs in disguise, so it is revolutionary that we are getting a candidate who is not owned by their donors like Ted Cruz was.

They never get it. They just divert to talking about him mocking that disabled reporter.

Deflection is one of their most common tactics in my experience.

I run a university debate club. I always play devils advocate to try and keep the club politically neutral. I spent all last year acting as a conservative voice and I've spent most of this year acting as a lefty.

I have become an autistic husk with no real convictions

This, unironically every time without fail. The last sperg I demolished went on a Facebook rant we he talked a load of shit, most of which is already debunked, needless to say the "debate" ended with him implying I'm Hitler for pointing out that it's literally impossible for cultures to be equal

I don't talk politics or religion with anyone except family members. You see, I don't like making enemies with everyone I meet.

>state facts
>get called racist
>state more facts
>get called sexist
>state even more facts
>get called a literal nazi straight out of WWII
>at this point proceed to just start goosestepping around her while all while a fat black guy is watching the entire thing and laughing his ass off and shes screaming something about rape
At some point about 3 years ago I gave up trying to argue with em and learned to embrace their retardation and just openly mocking them when they start shit

i was a lefty a few years back (feminist mom) and i started reading about it and arguing with other lefties and realized they are driven by emotion and guilt,most of them never read marx or anything also most of them are using the poor as a shield while fucking them in the ass

>muh Sorros !
>muh lefties !
Meanwhile
nordic.businessinsider.com/facebook-group-russia-texas-anti-immigrant-rallies-2017-9/

Just dropping real pills for the brain dead, around here.

Arguing with a lefty and arguing with a bugman/super feminist are much different things. I can argue with someone who has left wing viewpoints but is still a sane person. However once you get into bugman/rabid feminist territory its basically impossible because you share nothing in common with them, there is absolutely no common ground. You are trying to argue with a person who wants you to not exist.

lol nevermind, wrong thread

Can somebody tell me what a "bugman" is?

>while I generally don't start anything, I never back down
i know this feel

not always a good thing either am i right

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My parents and grandparents told me not to argue with children.

i've managed to redpill multiple people this way and it's funny how they're still skeptical of me even though i've already shifted their viewpoints so much
then again, there's nothing wrong with being skeptical of people i guess

Nope, it's made me a lot of enemies. On the plus side, nobody ever takes me for a pushover.

It's harder for me to argue with christfags about their non-existent deity.

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the group deliberately social signaling something like brainwashed drones

I subverted them.

I also had a leftie friend, with whom I tried to be honest, but he is not on the level when you can honestly argue about anything. He just bitches about and repeats shit he have heard on interweebs.

i just look at it like, it's better to have bad people as enemies then as friends
lets you know you're on the right side of things

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They got super fucking emotional and upset with me. was kind of bewildering. Like I was attacking them personally, I could see him think less and less of me, like a person's value is their political beliefs or something.

Sure have. He acted exactly like a jew too. Seemed completely reasonable and agreeable, only to have no recollection of the conversation a mere day later.

The modern city dwelling numale open mouth faggots. They are perfect consumer drones who believe the delusion that they are counter culture. Pic related are bugmen.

>they're too retarded to have any impact on modern politics
>they can vote

When you act like a fucking retard intelligent people don't wasn't you near them

its only shocking if you are a bugman

They changed the subject until they ran out of arguments

Well I technically I don't think all autists are debate worthy if they punch themselves and scream 24/7.
youtube.com/watch?v=j4PTf7LgsIE

Basically whenever you prove them wrong they suddenly 'don't understand'.
Constantly making bold claims with no references. Wants you to provide proof even for things that are common knowledge or logical conclusions.
Lots of anecdotal evidence.
Will readily bash christians but defend muslims.
Appeals to unamed higher authorities e.g. "well 'experts' who know more about that than you or I disagree/agree"
etc
The usual stuff.

>Have you ever argued with a lefty in-person?
Countless times.
>How did that go?
Annoying, I just show them their hypocrisy, use their own words and thoughts against them and speak moral-emotional arguments.

I don't bother with logic-factual arguments since most people are emotionally invested in some subjects as opposed to being intellectual invested.

You're speaking to braindead morons, few are objective.

I argued with a kurdish separatist and socialist, he was quite rational and in fact a very nice person too, we ended up agreeing on a few points and reaching a kind of an imaginary compromise

This is why no one likes atheist cunts, what does it matter if they believe in said deity?

"Small-souled bugman" implies that the person has been cut off from their cultural roots, and totally subsumed into consumerist neoliberal hive. they are totally lack any sort of sympathy for their ancestors folkways, higher spirituality, or passion. if they do engage in activities that are somewhat human, they still are heavily tinged by global capitalism. if they are a sports fan, they will participate heavily in fantasy sports(which is obsessed with statistics, 'scientific' analysis of performance). if they exercise, it will be all cardio, and tracked by Fitbit and then uploaded to Faceberg. tastes in food, art, music, movies are predetermined by review aggregator sites like Yelp, Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. political views only appeal to them if they seem 'rational,' and derived from the sort of conventional wisdom, economics influenced worldview seen in works like 'Moneyball', Nate Silver's 538 blog, and 'Freakonomics.'

that is one way they try to win an argument, they'll move the goalposts so fucking far out that before you know it you're not even sure what the fuck is going on then they'll scream see you don't know what you're talking about and strut off into the sunset like they've just beat the devil in a banjo duel.

It ending with the "anarchist" saying "I'm not shaking our hand, I hand to punch you" to which I replied "Well, I'm sorry you feel that way" in a very condescending tone

Christians are too imaginative while atheists are massively depressed like you're average liberal cunt. Both are bad but I agree that christcucks are better since they have the potential to listen to facts unlike the liberal cognitive dissonance. It's just annoying when a christian cannot accept evolution because they believe the Earth was made in 7 days.

all you have to do to win agasint a herd of morons is continue seeking the truth

fuck their daughters for bonus points

Picture a person in their mid-20s that claims to "fight capitalism", yet at the same time he is a consumer drones that buys the latest iPhone, latest gaming console, apps, expensive $500 shoes and jackets, drinks expensive Starbucks coffee with pumpkin spice, and other useless shit.
They're "men" that adapt ideology and consumer products as a part of their personality. There is zero depth behind their actions, and they're at times, illogical.
I could understand purchasing the bare essentials to live, while still disliking capitalism but...
>communist
>literal consumer drone who obsesses over everything new and wants it immediately
pick one.

Full screech mode.

I wonder what their testosterone level is. These people legit look physically damaged. Is it the estrogen in milk or the fluoride in water? What causes this?

I am a Christian who stayed neutral about evolution because I had never studied it, and because gaytheists ran around screaming "HAHA ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION IS A TRAILER PARK LIVING BIBLE THUMPER WHO FUCKS THEIR COUSIN AND WATCHES 700 CLUB YEAH FUCK YOU". I thought if they were this confident about the theory than it must be a pretty solid theory.

I finally took a college course where we studied it, I was surprised how ridiculous it was. Seems like there is more evidence against it than for it desu

That Hitler (or Goebbels?) quote about how Jews go straight back to their old positions the day after you've refuted them in an argument, is also true for a lot of leftists. If you bring up the points you made they act as if they've never heard them before and come back with the same arguments they made the day before. It's maddening.

What are you trying to say? give it another go.

>fell for the college meme.
>ended up at a Liberal Arts University
>Studying Political Science
>Constitutional Conservative with some Libertarian holdings.
With my current environment it's impossible for me to not argue with lefties, both professors and fellow students.
>Start every weekend telling myself not to get political.
>Gets a few beers in me.
>Inevitably make a political comment because it's one of the few things I genuinely enjoy talking about.
>discussion ensues, every time.
The last discussion I was having was about immigration with a smoking hot, but misguided blonde.
>starts out civil
>blonde girl realizes she's losing, gets agitated
>calls me a fascist.
>calls me racist
>swings at me.
>bobandweave.jpeg
I swear I'm never going to get laid, why am I like this?

They can't here what you say.
They preach without giving the media image that they emulate the slightest critical thought. They NEED you to agree, because that's the thing with cognitive dissonance in humans because we're group beings we need others to go down the garden path with us in order to believe lies and stop our brains challenging the drivel. We can't have doubters.
And there is nothing more pleasurable to s human than punishing an offender and admonishing them as part of a group- hence ANTIFA is really just a gay wank circle.
>Media images and serotonin pathways are heavily involved

It's okay, best gf is with you in your heart

Holy fuck, I need to proof read, especially when it's 5:30 in the morning while I get ready for work

>"I'm not shaking your hand, I want to punch you"

Explain how it's ridiculous?

>hate modern society and money culture
>buy 375$ jacket to prove it

I guess some useful idiots are so easily manipulated that both corporations and communists can control them at the same time. I guess neither group give a shit that their drones behavior contradicts their beliefs

Most of the lefties I know were BernieBros who hated Hillary so I used that issue to encourage talk shit about Hillary. They knew I was anti-Hillary and anti-Bernie so they knew my angle but leftist are easily manipulated.

Just encourage all leftist to vote for the most inept candidate and watch them agree as the left has a natural tendency to support and promote losers within their ranks.

Basically, leftist are easy to subvert and that is why the Democrat party loves/loved them so much. The left are a bunch of useful idiots.

you talk politics AFTER you fuck them a few times man come on. Hell you wont get very far with most young people because they arent actually open minded like they like to portray themselves as.

One thing I've noticed in my years of political life is that the leftist is incapable of arguing without attempting to make an emotional case.

Last summer whilst shopping in the town centre I came across some anti-brexit campaigners. When I told them I was voting to leave the European union, one of them, around the age of 18 or 19 years old, attempting to stay calm and level with me.

First of all he attempting to be patronising, saying something along the lines of "I really want to understand what compels people to support such a thing".

I gave out the list of reasons such as sovereignty, EU federalisation and how it is shameful for your nation to be ruled by another country. As I refused to back down and kept on the rails of my argument, I saw his eyes began to glaze over. He started to say how Russia was going to invade Estonia and murder the people there if we didn't stay in the EU.

I asked what evidence there was for this, he began to rave about the Soviet Union. Mystified, I left.

My aunt is a leftie and it's impossible to argue with her. The other day she told me a story about her neighbor being issued a fine for smoking in a non-smoking spot. I told her that's great, nice to see that police works. She told me it's an example of the ebil oppression from ebil Putin. There's no arguing with people like that