Why did you vote for a billionaire?

>over 80% of america is living in poverty
>a billionaire is elected
>currently cutting taxes to the super rich
How are poor Americans benefiting?

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hillary not in office, a huge number of people i despise (like you) got denied the thing they want

schadenfreude is how i benefit

>hillary not in office, a huge number of people i despise (like you) got denied the thing they want
I understand the Hillary part (i was a Bernie bro), but you literally sacrificed your income and welfare for this. Was it worth it?

I didn't vote I stayed home flipping my foreskin around wildly using my fingers

yeah

I feel dumber for reading that

>Why did you vote for a billionaire?

had nothing to do with...

>How are poor Americans benefiting?

Until you understand that, you won't get why Crooked Hillary did not get elected.

Trump wants to cut taxes for everyone. Are you asking how poor people benefit from tax cuts? Well, poor people dont benefit directly since they typically dont pay taxes, but they benefit from lower cost of goods and services due to less taxes on producers (your so-called rich people). They also benefit from economic growth and rising standards of living.

>income
Literally going downward for all Americans since the 60s & 70s
>welfare
Lol oh goy you need the government to live until you retire then we slowly turn the faucet off until you 'pass away' from natural causes

>you literally sacrificed your income and welfare for this. Was it worth it?

Yes, but your statement isn't true.

My income has improved over the past year.

>taxes get cut for everybody including the rich.
>"Trump is making big corporations and the already rich even more rich!!!"
>Gets rid of tons of deductions, the things that actually let the rich avoid paying a lot back in taxes
>crickets chirping

no he is cutting taxes specifically for the higher brackets, so people who earn over $400k. In fact, his tax cuts to the rich will end up making people who earn low, like $20-50k pay more tax. Go read up on his tax legislation reform.

Im not a communist so I dont see any reason why I have to justify my income to the government.

Its leftists who assume the government is entitled to everything people earn unless they demonstrate a need for it.


I would ask OP why taxes should not be cut for everyone given that taxing rich people more hasnt worked for decades to solve poverty or other social ills.

Also why shouldnt taxes be cut according to free market principles? Who died and put marxist ideologues in charge of tax policy?

Completely full of fucking shit in every possible way. It should be painful to speak such silly lies.

Trump ran on giving the international capitalist class a giant fuck you. I unironically hope he launches a military junta and goes full blown NatSoc.

That's just wrong, the highest tax bracket will get no cuts at all. Did you even look at the tax plan?

Name one poor politician.
Go on. I'll wait.

Poor Americans are benfiting from Trump slowly trying to cut off gibs that dat that keep ghetto people in the ghetto. Muh slavery ended generations ago and the ship that brought your ancestors didnt force you to drop out of high school, snort pills and knock up 13 year olds. Its true there are hard working people who are born poor, but only poor decisions keep them that way.

Hey fag, was Hillary poor?

Nope.

Why do you faggots feel entitled to the fruits of my work? What else that I own do you feel entitled to?

And conservatives are highly pissed about that. He should be cutting the high tax brackets too, but fucking democrats can't stop fucking spending everyone else's money.

I'm making much more this year than last. Sorry about your worthless degree + student debt payments. If only someone in your life had protected you from those bad decisions. So sad.

Give me specific examples. Regarding the first parr of your statement, I have no problem with lowering taxes for rich people.

Given the second, I question what specific changes you are referring to.


I personally support abolishing all taxes except a federal and state sales tax not to exceed 15%. So any reduction in taxes that brings us closer to this goal is preferable to me.


I also favor tax cuts affecting businesses such as corporate income because those are taxes passed onto consumers, not corporations. I want our economy to grow and cost of commodities to come down, so taxing capital out of the country and companies into raising prices is counter productive.

By the look of those digits you can't be lying

for the keks

Repeating your bullshit over and over doesn't make it true.

Nothing has changed, the world hasn't gotten any worse, we've only gained.

Which is why all of the "I regret voting for Trump" people are all either faking or legit retarded.

watch as all the trump babbys justify blatant incompetence & kikery from the Trump administration

>mfw draining the swamp

Hi IDF you’d know all about that wouldnt you?

now he's sucking the international capitalist class's dick, and giving Wall St. everything they ever dreamed of

But that's not true

Hello agents Shlomo and David, might want to call tech support your proxies arent working right.

...

>I was a Bernie bro
>hurrr I mindlessly hate the rich
>trump cuts taxes for the rich so I'll ignore he cuts taxes for everyone because I mindlessly hate the rich so much
Gee you don't fuckin say

>DUDE 300M AMERICANS MADE """"""""""""BAD DECISIONS"""""""""""" OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS

80% of America isn't living in poverty, fuckwit. Jesus fucking christ, this untrue nonsense gets repeated as often as the wage gap nonsense, and is just as bullshit.

>The official poverty rate in 2015 was 13.5 percent, down 1.2 percentage points from 14.8 percent in 2014.

>In 2015, there were 43.1 million people in poverty, 3.5 million less than in 2014.

>The 2015 poverty rate was 1.0 percentage point higher than in 2007, the year before the most recent recession.

>For most demographic groups, 2015 poverty rates and estimates of the number of people in poverty decreased from 2014.

>Between 2014 and 2015, poverty rates decreased for all three major age groups. The poverty rate for children under age 18 dropped 1.4 percentage points, from 21.1 percent to 19.7 percent. Rates for people aged 18 to 64 dropped 1.1 percentage points, from 13.5 percent to 12.4 percent. Poverty rates for people aged 65 and older decreased 1.1 percentage points, from 10.0 percent to 8.8 percent.

This shit isn't hard to find.

census.gov/library/publications/2016/demo/p60-256.html

But more people voted for Hillary

Didn't read. Your jealousy isn't actually an argument for anything.

No refunds.

Only working class white americans are disenfranchised by Affirmative Action.
Upper class white americans are unaffected by a variety of reasons.
Yet the alleged "party of the people" does nothing to help the working class. In fact they impede any attempt by the white working class to get their privileges back.
Because the "party of the people" wants to give privilege to minorities, so they disenfranchise the working class to do it. Never the upper class whites, only the working class whites.

>WE CLOSE LOOPHOLES N SHEET
>Which loopholes?
>EHEEEM.....

What I don't get is how so many people seemingly started with this view but now actually seem to believe Trump is smart or doing a good job or ect.

>I'll ignore he cuts taxes for everyone

Uhm, the tax cuts fo everyone else are ignorable.

>80% living in poverty

Sup Forums is rich enough to be inside and connected electrically to the world. It's UNAMERICAN, gawdammit!

If those cuts are percentage based it would explain why they're so low. Nigga, he's not gonna reduce a poorfag's taxes by 129,000.

Rich people spending more is more profitable than poor people buying more burgers.

>neighbour's TV is a lot bigger than mine
>it is against your economic interests not to steal it
This is what socialists actually believe

>>over 80% of america is living in poverty

No you're wrong I have been running a business and I just had to double my production and I'm already thinking I need to expand more still. Trump has been a boon for me, I fucking love it.

Trumps plan for poorer Americans we're never tax cuts.

They were: an infrastructure package (jobs). And bringing work back to the states via sane protectionism (jobs). Lower regulation on business (jobs). Fixing the tax system for business (jobs).

Leave it to a socialist to not understand that he is a (jobs) promoter. All they understand is gibs.

Probably time better spent desu senpai.

A billionaire won't be as vulnerable to moneyed interests influencing his policy. Hillary was corrupt as fuck and we all knew she had been purchased to chop the USA up into little pieces for the global elite. Trump, a patriot, might not do that and can't be manipulated the same way.

They're stupid. What did you expect?

You won't get an answer to this, but it's two things.
1. americans can only think in either / or
2. american doctrine of enemy's enemy is a friend
>dems want investigation into collusion / WTF Putin is /ourguy/ now
> Trump fills the swamp with GS bankers and cuts taxes for the rich / WTF quantum chess - better than Hillary
> let's talk about not alowing every mongoloid bump stocked ARs to light up festivals / WTF they want to take all guns guys!!
America is getting played but too retarded to even realize.

20% of Americans pay for 95% of all federal income taxes. They are the only ones that can get a tax cut. The rest can only get less free money.

your workforce>corporates>wealth>tax
You don't seem to understand the very basics you delusional lolbertarian mong.

well i don't have that kinda money. guess you guys can get this one.

youtube.com/watch?v=7ZcsARqmq1U

>muh rich people are stealing muh money so they need to pay more in taxes
Something something helicopters.

>>over 80% of america is living in poverty
Legitimate source on this, if you please.

But you fool, Bernie is also rich. His wife took personal loans against a college she was president of and got it closed ruining those kids lives for money

Debatable. New Hampshire (or Jersey) is already being investigated for massive voter fraud.

Trump may be an idiot, but he is the last bastion in the west standing against political correctness, identity politics and the rampant Anti-White-Male mentality on the Left. And regardless of him being a billionaire or not, Hillary Clinton would be the absolute worst case of a President. Just look at her past. She has absolutely no integrity (switching viewpoints whenever it was necessary to progress through political "ranks"), is prone to lying, has been involved in numerous dubious cases (corruption with bill, laughing about successfully defending an actual rapist, having a lot of people "disappear" in "suicide cases" and "accidents") and was clearly warmongering against Russia before the election-period. She has an unstable personality (often described as a state of perpetual anger), health Problems (and obviously not just physical ones) and her only argument for people voting her was "i would be the first female president!!!!" - which is exactly the kind of shit that the western world has to prevent (giving away positions due to unimportant properties like gender/ race instead of competence and merit) if we don't want to lose what's left of our civilization due to incompetence and corruption. And don't get me started on how she (and the rest of the democratic party) threw Bernie under the bus, who was a WAY better candidate for the Dems (i think Bernie might have won the election, if even by a close margin), but i guess being white, male and cisgendered doesn't fit the dem's leadership's agenda.

> How are poor Americans benefiting?
Depends on who you ask. If it is poor male Asians or poor male Whites, then trump being elected is akin to them dodging a bullet. Both groups already have it hard because they have to compete with PoC and 'Womyn' in the same sector, while missing the structural privileges that the latter gain through affirmative action, race and gender quotas. Had Clinton won, she would have made it even worse.

Kill yourself you autistic faggot. We did it to piss off retarded cumguzzlers like yourself. Go back to plebbit.. Fucking treehugging pussy.

Have you actually read his tax plan? It actually raises taxes on the rich...

>80% poverty
You can bait better user

Literally everything in that second to last paragraph is true.

youtube.com/watch?v=4JQwzE5O9ZA

All your choices were lies.

You were played by better men than you, there's no shame in it, there's only shame in doing nothing about, down with democrats, down with the republicans, let them reconscruct their parties free of the stench of the old fucking boomers ass.

>But more illegal aliens and people voted multiple times for Hillary
More citizens voted for Trump, more state electors voted for him.

>over 80% of america is living in poverty
50% of America is middle class. 12%-15% are lower middle class. 12%-18% are upper middle class to wealthy. It's more like 20% live in poverty. So you have exactly backwards. Typical for a democrat.

Neat. I see you haven't even read the tax plan. Just kys.

This is pretty much it. Voted against Shillary, not for Trump.

... really? You REALLY expect what amounts to the reform's fucking ELEVATOR PITCH to explain exactly which loopholes are going to be closed? It's the first page, faggot. Actually read through it before you start shitting on the floor.

Sacrificing welfare is how weak people die. It's a good thing

>over 80%
Mother fucker what? The only Americans living in poverty are people who can’t sign up for dem programs because of severe mental illness.

Everything is free in America for the poor. Have you heard of Medicaid? Do u know what food stamps are? How about free breakfast and lunch at school? The EITC? Subsidized housing?

The “wealthy” have been turned into slaves who work to pay for shit for the bottom 50%.

>Why did you vote for a billionaire?
Because he's Batman.

the rich got plenty of money, hence why we call them rich. trust me it's not breaking them.

Why is Trump's base so excited about tax cuts when the majority of them will only get back $50?

Yea but why should they have to pay for programs that poor and middle class people want?

cause we can't just turn on the printing press. you got the money so...

>More than 50% of Americans don't even have $500 in savings
>Not poor
Your credit card doesn't make you rich

That's not an argument. Just because someone has something doesn't mean he should give it to you.

>people living middle class lifestyles are poor

Why did you vote for a criminal, faggot?

welcome to the real world buddy.

>20% of Americans pay for 95% of all federal income taxes.
source on that? the notion that its ok to lower the taxes for the rich more than for the poor since they provide disproportionally more taxes and subsidize the welfare for everybody else and so on is interesting but it seems hard to believe

Because they were fed that story their whole lives by their parents.

Tax cuts don't directly do anything to the low income folks who don't pay federal tax anyways. The only thing in the bill significant to poorfags is the elimination of the salt deduction. If you're unfortunate enough to live in a state with high taxes that you would ordinarily deduct, you pay more taxes as a result.

>doesn't understand what this graph actually means
KYS

>employment up
>wages are rising

That’s blatantly false. They looked only at super blue states with crazy high state taxes. I live in Michigan and make $90k. I’ll see a $2k tax cut.

Did you even read the fucking plan? This is patently false.

>1st argument is that Americans oversimplify complex issues
>in 2nd argument proceeds to oversimplify complex issues, not even getting close to the truth or even a close representation of the truth regarding our positions
Why aren't you out in their streets protesting mommy merkle to give you more refugees? Go misrepresent your own country.

Sorry, intended for

The upper middle class aren’t rich. But they get taxed like they are.

It’s true. Literally over 50% of all Americans pay zero taxes and another 10-15% pay taxes but take more out than they contribute. Where do you think we get $150T in un-funded liabilities and $20T in debt?

Anyone who doesn’t see how Obama was implementing Cloward-Piven to the letter, is blind.

Who did 905% of the super rich donate to..?

For a household with children, Americans don’t start paying taxes until they make 50k per year. From 50-70 or so, the money still come back to you in other ways.

t. CPA

>~$25,000 income
>6.3% federal income tax
>6.2% social security tax
>1.4% medicare tax
>4.5% federal state tax
>2.5% obongocare tax
>still owed a few hundred dollars on my return

You have no children.
Also, you didn’t file optimally. You shouldn’t have owed shit.