Spaniard here, why does American TV get the situation in Spain/Catalonia so wrong? That is if they even cover it, since most of them don't seem to care.
This is so one-sided, biased and ill-informed it hurts. Colbert gets several historical facts wrong and presents them in a way that leaves stuff out or distorts things, like how he claims that Catalonia was an independent country yet in the same sentence he accidentally admits it wasn't because he mentiones how it was part of the Kingdom or Aragon. Also he quotes The Sun as a source for fucks sake.
Because that's what the alt-left does, truth isn't important to them
Jose Gutierrez
>admits it wasn't because he mentiones how it was part of the Kingdom or Aragon. It was both
William Diaz
He couldn't even say Catalan properly.
Easton Rogers
B-but drumpf is a bad fascist...
Anthony Wilson
HAIL!
Jayden Rogers
b/c CBS doesn't want to pay for real research, shocking!
Oliver Sanchez
Nobody cares about the truth these days.
Ethan Ramirez
dude it's a comedy show
Noah Cooper
>mentions franco >doesnt mention the commies and anarchists that were widespread in catalonia
Who can guess the bias?
Ryder Cook
How can you be both an independent country and part of a larger kingdom at the same time? Catalonia was never its own nation.
>inb4 Condado de Barcelona
Asher Ortiz
then why's he sitting there like the mclaughlin group. tell some jokes.
Landon White
>Every night present a one sided hot take on politics, media, and society >Get called out for it >Dude it's a comedy show Every single time.
John Morris
That's not really relevant now is it? Former then the other
Jose Foster
well, is it or is it not?
Nathan Ramirez
why does he put on a posh english accent when he says "catalan"?
Isaiah Reed
not really. it is a series of quips and infographics combined with one sided information.
It's as if you were in History 101 in college and you had to sit through powerpoint presentations from students who only read some of the book but think they are very very witty.
This rhetorical style is popular in American universities so it is popular with young people as this is how they think people argue an issue.
Essentially it is as if I had Rush Limbaugh but just put him up as a left-winger. For years the libs were looking for their Rush and they finally found him.
Angel Watson
The analogy between the American Revolution and the current Catalan situation REALLY doesn't work.
Bentley Diaz
>That's not really relevant now is it?
He makes Franco the baddie, because Franco killed commies and anarchists from that region. He doesnt mention the civil war and what political regime controlled that region.
Its as one sided as it gets.
Justin Walker
Oh, wow, look at this entire board for talking about politics:
Cooper Foster
>information what kind of dingus watches comedy shows to get information?
Luke James
>20 posts >MUH POL MUH POL
Zachary Martin
Americans want to see the downfall of the EU because it threatens their position of being the only world superpower Same reasons they cheered on Brexit
Jayden Torres
Its an easy deflection to use when any time someone criticize them. The reality is people watch these hacks for more than entertainment.
James Sanders
It's shitty journalism masquerading as comedy.
Ryder Sanchez
oh no
Noah Rivera
He makes Franco the bad guy be mentioning that he killed people who wanted to separate. >because Franco killed commies and anarchists from that region. So you're saying that the separate movement was nothing but commies and anarchist? Not fucking likely >He doesnt mention the civil war and what political regime controlled that region. Because as mentioned before that's not really relevant
Zachary Adams
I'm pretty sure that Colbert wasn't for the downfall of the EU, and neither is the rest of the American left, they were all against Brexit. Being against the EU is more of a conservative thing.
Brody Stewart
It's on TV you fuckhead.
Isaac Gutierrez
Why is the number of posts relevant? I am just stating that the appropriate place for this topic is Sup Forums because it is purely a political discussion. The thread was simply created on the wrong board.
Henry Watson
>the leftist media machine actually promoting segregation based on nationalistic tendencies and culture
huh
Carter Scott
So is the news, sports, religious ceremonies, etc.
Eli Reed
>Because as mentioned before that's not really relevant
But mentioning that Spain is a "monarchy" is relevant? How down are you willing to go just to confirm your own views?
Owen Reed
So you want to discuss late night shows where exactly? How about Sup Forums?
Andrew Nguyen
It's because the commies are the ones wanting independence this time. Many right wingers in Catalonia are against independence.
As for Colbert, he's so frigging predictable.
Oliver Rodriguez
Surprised John Oliver hasn't covered it yet. Unlike other talk show hosts he'll talk about issues and countries that aren't as well-known by his American audience all the time. Plus he's British, so he's bound to know a lot more about this topic since the British press has been covering it a lot.
Cooper Murphy
Isn't there concrete evidence in those DNC leaked emails that Colbert is a shill? Fucking Christ. I don't really know what the fuck is going on in Catalan either, I don't know shit about Spain.
Henry Hernandez
The place where I have stated. The topic is political and/or historical therefore they go on either of those boards. If Colbert had an actor, director, or someone involved with the film industry as a guest and that was the topic of discussion, Sup Forums would be the place for it.
Lincoln Hernandez
The monarchy part was just there to draw a parallel to the American Revolution
Juan Peterson
The independence movement in Catalonia is a mish-mash of left-wingers and right-wingers actually.
Joseph Watson
It's abundantly left wing with some right wingers, no doubt. Which is why I said >Many right wingers in Catalonia are against independence. As opposed to all.
Evan Collins
You people always find a way to blame commies or people on the left. >Many right wingers in Catalonia are against independence. And you probably have more right wingers who are for it then against it.
Connor Taylor
alberto barbosa here why are right wingers in Catalonya against independence? I don't really understand why there's a political division on this only our leftard parties are for independence as well
Noah Kelly
John Oliver dosen't know shit. He's just another failed English comedian that think's he's an intellectual because American's buy up his stupid accent.
Isaac Gonzalez
And the mention of Franco was there to portray the Catalonians as the ones oppressed, even though there is no connection between commies of those times and the problem of today.
Eli Garcia
Not even the majority of Catalans want independence, lmao. It's time to face the music, buddy.
Carson Russell
nobody cares
Oliver Scott
But most of then want greater autonomy.
Zachary Harris
>capeshit goes to Sup Forums >sports movies go to Sup Forums
Levi Garcia
He neglects to mention that those 8 people all actually broke the law so if they were left off the hook it would set a terrible precedent. Also, it's only 8 people, the vast majority of the politicians involved in the illegal referendum and shit are fine and still ranting to anyone who hears about how oppressed they are. Not to mention that the President of Catalonia fleeing to Brussels is pretty cowardly. If he were a true believer he'd stay and face the music and act like a martyr to the cause.
Adrian Hall
The majority of New Englanders didn't want independence either. Since when has a majority opinion ever mattered?
Joshua Morris
>Expecting anything from amerifat shows Ye dnot bother they are biggest trash in the world.
Jordan Morris
Since they are trying to get independence through democratic means. If less than 50% of your people attend a country defining vote like that, how could it ever be considered legitimate? Right now many of the Catalan officials are treasonous pigs.
Sebastian Rogers
>Colbert >relevant He’s not our media. He’s barely even watched. And yes, most American media are corporate globalist liars.
Owen Murphy
The kind of people who watch Colbert
Thomas Young
Is he fucking retarded? Lol he compares with Franco. Did he new that the Spanish Socilist oarty supported Rajoy? Even the far left marxist Pablo Iglesias said that the independence was illegal.
Benjamin Ross
>all current tv/movies are filled with leftist politics >people hate it >m-muh Sup Forums
Adam Sanders
>makes Franco the bad guy
Franco was a bad guy. Spain was fucked. Royally fucked by that man.
>President of Catalonia fleeing to Brussels is pretty cowardly. If he were a true believer he'd stay and face the music and act like a martyr to the cause.
That I don't like. He just fled and is the reason for all of this. Catalonia was in a time of prosperity for once and now he decides to do this? Did he think the entire European population would just support Catalonia and its stupid statehood ambitions? Insurrection is not looked on favourably by any governments.
The BBC has been very bias in its reporting of this story too, they act as if the entire Catalan population wants it, when I hear on other sources it's more like 45% and only 42% voted in the illegal referendum.
Every single one of the politicians in Spain is corrupt. Just look at what happened with Carrasco.
Ian Reed
It’s a discussion about a tv show on Sup Forums
Gabriel Clark
Hey, buddy! Don't expect - An American - late night entertainment show to do a proper research on a news item.
Aaron Ross
Why they have their own language that is different from spanish?
Jose Perry
>alt-left that's not a thing, retard
Aaron Garcia
>commies get a haven in Europe again >they start funding communist terrorist groups South America again white ppl pls stop
Jayden Reed
Because we want to look like we care but don't. Spain to America is Conquistadors, Sherry and Real Madrid.
James Rogers
>This is so one-sided, biased and ill-informed That's how American "news" media reports on everything, especially American politics. >gets several historical facts wrong and presents them in a way that leaves stuff out or distorts things Yes, that's what they all do. >Also he quotes The Sun as a source Anything that supports the narrative, amigo
American television is the most frighteningly effective propaganda machine the world has ever seen. Never ask why it's inaccurate. It's not supposed to be accurate. It's supposed to tell you what the ultra-wealthy and powerful want you to think, regardless of reality.
Wyatt Morris
You’re right, the mainstream left is extremist anti-white
Bentley Mitchell
Has a country ever been able to become independent through democracy? As we've seen with the delayed Brexit, democracy is pretty powerless I think.
Catalonian independence seekers are only treasonous because they haven't won yet. If they win, then they will be liberators.
Cooper Hill
Spain's a big country.
Also other regions have their own languages as well, reality is roughly 50% of them can speak Catalan but everyone can speak Spanish. The autonomy Spain gives to some regions leads to them pushing their language.
Joseph Perez
brazil
Jacob Bennett
>watching a literal nigger
your watching fucking 2 scoop himself
Easton Lopez
GEE THANKS JANNY
Caleb Stewart
jesus it's still Sup Forums related
Luke Rivera
...
Joseph Green
Sup Forums can't risk people going poo poo on their electrical pacifier. superficial critiques only!
Ryder Thompson
Wikipedia says there was a war.
Wyatt Williams
But then why is it not funny?
Jace Rogers
Norway
Asher Bailey
STRAYA CUNT
Brayden Jones
American TV is owned completely buy Jews. Everything on American Television is Propanda from the Jewish perspective.
Thats why americans in general dont want TV anymore. I haven't had cable in 6 years
Brody Young
This moron was notified 5 times this year from the law courts that he was doing something illegal, and he twitted a selfy with the notifications... what did he expect?
Blake Harris
>Tell all people whith contrary beliefs to go to Sup Forums >Wah why muh Sup Forums is such a popular board >This must be everyone else fault but mine.
Nathan Lewis
Alt-right wasn't a thing either until Hillary came up with it
Michael Parker
Colbert is a clown and shouldnt be taken seriously, none of the liberal media should be taken seriously for that matter
Aaron Sanders
>Has a country ever been able to become independent through democracy? Singapore. Australia. Many US colonial possessions - Philippines (there was a war, they lost, we gave them independence years later), Micronesia, Marshall Islands, etc. A lot of British African possessions technically didn't fight for independence, they just got it. India never fought an actual war preferring civil disobedience.
Levi Lopez
You know the media lies. Why would you watch/listen to them concerning anything?
Christopher Campbell
Hey janitors did you delete the nigger porn first?
Austin Taylor
American comedy talk shows are pure propaganda, plain and simple.
Here in Greece all satire / comedy shows were (they're hardly any left nowadays because no money) completely impartial. They mocked both sides and spent their time coming up with funny scenarios instead of "spirited" monologues against gun activists / confederates / racists / republicans / evil people / whatever by their presenters. Most of them didn't have live audiences either, because they could actually make you laugh without canned laughter.
There was one SYRIZA shill a few years ago, similar to Colbert, and now he's hated by everyone.
Jason Garcia
There wasn't.
The prince of Brazil just decided to separate it from Portugal. I think the royal family over there knew what was going to happen, and it was better to control the independence and keep the power, not like in the rest of American countries.