Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
“You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.”
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008) Nobel-Prize-winning novelist & historian.
Jose Green
fuck off
Lucas Baker
the only good commie is a dead commie.
Nicholas Taylor
Hi. What happens to those who cannot work? since their is only a working class?
Nathaniel Fisher
looked after by the extended family
Adam Anderson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Jackson Price
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
>Sdage for Not real gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD
David Jenkins
But not everyone has extended family, Also would that not go against "only one class, the working class" tenet?
I'm worried for all the blind, mentally ill and that.
Noah Moore
>Marx and Lenin were anti-civilisation pieces of shit What a thing to follow
Elijah Brooks
You think everything was Jews?
Communism was thought up by Frenchmen and Germans of both Jewish and Christian heritage.
Russians were long fed up with the Russian Empire before the October Revolution.
There was the 1905 Revolution and much earlier than that, the Decembrist Revolution.
Sebastian Nelson
Staff Sergeant Kurt Hummel, Military Post Number L 31 605 Lg Pa. Paris, to his local group
Northern Russia, 12 August 1941
Bolshevist conditions are indescribable. I had never imagined that such misery was possible. People here know nothing about electric lights, radio, newspapers and the like. One can't call what they live in houses. There are only shanties with rotten straw roofs. Huge neglected fields lay around. We haven't yet found even a small shop. This is what people call the Soviet paradise. I wish the few outsiders who still remain in Germany could be shipped here. There is misery wherever one looks. One has to see it to realize how beautiful Germany is.
Kayden Murphy
Soldier Heinrich Stähr tells his work mates at the Hamburg Hochbahn A. G. about conditions frequently mentioned in other letters as well:
The roads. We in the infantry are probably the best judge of good and bad roads, since we have to march for kilometer after kilometer on them. Here too the Soviets haven't lifted a finger. The main roads are no better than field paths. Believe me, my dear comrades, the soldiers have had many a justifiable curse after marching 40 or 50 kilometers on such a road. Besides, it is 30-35 degrees C. in the shade, and huge clouds of dust make it almost impossible to breathe. Swamps, forests, and bad roads make military action unpleasant, but we keep moving forward.
Zachary Hernandez
Medical corporal Paul Lenz, Military Post Number 7 14 628 Posen, to the local group of the NSDAP, Arneburg:
Only a Jew can be a Bolshevist; for these bloodsuckers there is nothing better to be, for there is then nothing to stop them. Wherever one spits there is a Jew, whether in a city or a village. As far as I know (we asked the people, wanting to know the truth) not a single Jew every worked in the workers' paradise. Even the littlest bloodsucker had a post with big privileges. He lived in the best buildings, if one can call them buildings. The real workers lived in small buildings, or better, in animal stalls, just like day laborers in old Russia. It makes no difference whether one is in a village or in a city like Minsk with over 300,000 inhabitants, the stalls are everywhere. Even before the war, most workers knew nothing but hunger, misery and slavery. Some may be interested to know that there were theaters, operas, etc., even big buildings for them, but only those with money got in, and they were the blood suckers and their lackeys.
Jason Parker
Yeah cause the Germans bombed their infrastructure you dumb ass.
Charles James
>and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away'
Communists actually believe this, fucking kek
Asher Cook
>he doesn't work >he wants to represent the working class
Chase Bell
Soldier Walter Sperath writes to the [NSDAP] county office Hamburg 6
Everything I have seen of the so-called workers' paradise is everything but lovely. One should send every citizen who even slightly criticizes our efforts here. He would thank the Führer and the movement that these conditions are not found in our Fatherland. Animals by us live in better conditions than the people here. Our successes so far have been great, and we will not stop until we have rooted out this evil root and branch, which will be a blessing for European culture and humanity.
Sebastian King
Marx the founder of communism was a kike, Lenin the founder of the soviet union was a kike, and Lenins chosen successor Trotsky, the creator of the red army, was a kike. Jew NKVD head Yagoda along with kike Kaganovich and kike-married Molotov famined 6,000,000+ European Christians around the Black Sea in the 1930's. Listen to your Rabbis.
This is my favorite thing to ever come from Sup Forums
Jacob Rivera
This bad idea again
Sebastian James
You believe in getting fucked by Muslims.
Eli Baker
>he state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
you really think the state is going to relinquish any power? The state wants socialism so they have full control over us and they are never going to give that up. Communism is a pipe dream.
Asher Barnes
Kike Trotsky not only created the Red Army but he created racism offenses as well.
Germany didn't bomb the civilian infrastructure, it was needed the infrastructure for the invasion. The red army did tend to burn down their own cities when they retreated though.
Nolan Morris
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Landon Morales
Flyer W. M., Res.-Lazarett Salzlwedel to his Cell Leader Schroeder
I have seen the "wonderful workers' paradise" in the Soviet Union with all its terrible misery, and wish that those who thought differently could spend a few weeks here to see and experience what we have. The misery and horror of Bolshevism is terrible.
I hope that volunteering for our proud army may atone for my earlier sins, and that when I am back home, you, dear party member, will accept me as an honest person. In that hope, I send you my warmest greetings.
Heil Hitler!
signed W. M.
Brandon Rogers
Stalin wasn't Jewish but his son married a kike and Stalin had many Jewish affairs according to Jewish publications.
You're forgetting Stalin wasn't supposed to take over. Again, Marx the founder of communism was a kike, Lenin the founder of the soviet union was a kike, and Lenins chosen successor Trotsky, the creator of the red army, was a kike. Nobody really knows how Stalin felt about the Jews. There were estimates in the 1980's that up to 20% of his purge victims were Jews.
>revolutionary socialism and communism It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, identity-less, subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.
In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and to discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the past and present in that effort.
Corporal Otto Kien, Military Post Number 18, 756, to the Factory Leadership t the Conrad Scholtz Factory. Barmbeck
Russia, 8 August 1941
Anyone who earlier had different opinions of the Soviet Union is quickly cured of them here. The poverty is terrible. Not even the farmers have anything to eat. They beg from us. There are lice and filth everywhere. One has to be careful one doesn't get them from the inhabitants.
These people don't know anything else. They sit in their huts and remove lice from each other. They don't mind if anyone watches. I've had my fill of this workers' paradise. We'll be glad to be out of here. In the past we saw pictures of malnourished children. They were not exaggerated. One can't believe it if one hasn't been here.
Robert Morris
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Mason Robinson
>In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.
Corporal J. F., Military Post Number 26,280 to his Local Group
In the Field, 3.8.41
What we have seen of the so-called Soviet paradise is worse than we ever imagined. Anyone back home who still has any doubts should come here. All his doubts will disappear. Everywhere we go, the people are happy to be freed from Bolshevism, and looks to the future with confidence. We soldiers can say to those back home that he [Hitler] saved Germany and all of Europe from the Red Army. The battle is hard, but we know what we are fighting for, and, confident of the Führer, we will win. In the hopes of a victorious return,
Heil Hitler Corporal J. F.
Ethan Lewis
Marx didn't found communism.
He just formed a main line of communism.
There were already people before him like Thomas Paine who had commie ideas.
Hunter Price
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Lincoln Hughes
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society. Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies: >Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/gommies.gom/starve/
Da sdages of gommunism. >Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
You drove your tanks over their fields. No wonder they didn't have anything to eat.
Landon Turner
Ur a faggot larper Your like that kid that wears 70s shit in the back of class and talks about how he was born in the wrong era Fuck u faggot change your ways
Owen Davis
that was the only proper plowing those fields had ever seen.
I mean, I hate communism as much as the next Real American, but that line of argument does have a good point. Marxism as it originally was was only supposed to be applied in western european industrialized economies. Anytime its applied to a backwards underdeveloped 3rd world hole it's doomed by its own logic. Unfortunately for them that's the only place its ever been applied.
Jason Powell
>written by Nazi invaders
John Miller
They believe everything Marx wrote is the infallible word of God. They would sooner question reality than question the writings of their prophet.
Michael Brooks
Jewish communists couped and seized Germany for 72hrs in 1918. They didn't stop trying to destroy Germany until Hitler had them rounded up and lawfully shot for treason and terrorism.
Asher Parker
Written by simple soldiers who were shocked at the conditions they found in the USSR.
Jace Gray
>Nazis who were brainwashed and blamed wartime damage on da joos
Alexander Hernandez
I'm always struck by the hidden recording of Hitler talking about the 60,000 man Soviet slave factories he found in Ukraine.
I'm really not sure how that applies to what I wrote. You're not trying to argue the Weimar Republic was communist, are you?
Ethan Jones
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Bentley Price
>tfw no commie gf to read the communist manifesto and bash the fash with
Jaxson Torres
Look how good that worked with Russia. It never works. It will never work. Communism is literally opposed to human nature. Hierarchy, ownership, and earning is just human nature. The fact that you think people would be satisfied working for nothing and be kept alive to work and nothing more, earning nothing, owning nothing, and moving nowhere forward in the world, shows that you have no understanding of human nature.
>Work for the government >See laughably disgusting waste everyday
Why do you faggots think socialist systems are any better than the free market?
Ryder Scott
LMFAO
Also RIP Otto Wrambler, victim of communism F
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Gavin Nelson
I would think soldiers can tell wartime damage from general poverty, especially since many of them were part of the western and polish campaigns.
Matthew Kelly
settle for emu desu
Matthew Rogers
Are you sure you're responding to the right person? I didn't argue that communism works, just that their "not real communism" defense has legitimacy.
Aiden King
Commiea and socies should all fucking die
Colton Reyes
do I have to share my wife if I join?
Zachary Smith
Yes but real communism, in it's concept, does not work.
Gabriel Barnes
>tpusa.com
Aaron Jenkins
juche =/= communism
Carter Long
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Caleb Martin
Welcome back spaintard
Grayson Adams
>when reddit fags come to Sup Forums nice thread
Jackson King
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Kevin Peterson
No disagreement there, but I'm still not sure where this is coming from. If I didn't claim - or bring up at all - the theoretical soundness of communism, why are you responding as if I did?
Logan Nguyen
Sage
Anthony Thomas
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Nathan Jones
Proudhon, Blanc, Saint-Simon, Cabet, Leroux and Willich were all Jews too?
Michael Hall
The real question is, why are you getting your dick in a twist?
Robert Rogers
>took 6 posts
You're slacking Sup Forums.
Zachary Cox
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Levi Nguyen
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James Mitchell
No.
Later notable communists had disagreements with Marx.
Many communists view communism as being scientific. Not as a unchangeable dogma.
Aaron Ross
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Cameron Smith
>brown power brown power >there is no white genocide >the white race will be miscegenated out of existence
Anthony Walker
I don't take kindly to insinuations that I support the Left and wanted to dispell that confusion. Also, poor arguing tactics do more to hurt anti-communism than a thousand successful Bolshevik revolts, so I point them out whenever they rear their ugly heads.
Tyler Johnson
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Ian Perez
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Jeremiah Green
daily reminder that marxism-leninism =/= communism
Jose Young
You forget the parts where Marx called for the genocide of the Scotsman, Irish, Basques, and Serbs. The support of Communism is the support of white genocide.
Jacob Martin
Israeli Jews invented explosive reactive armour. USSR and later the modern Russian Federation have much more improved on it.
Nicholas Peterson
quality posts
Jaxon Johnson
You weren't even complaining about poor arguing tactics, you were complaining about my post not being entirely related. Quit being a butthurt faggot and move on.
Aaron Rivera
>self-identifying as a fascist I cringed
Aaron Wilson
Based gommie poster
Eli Wood
This. Came here to see this and now I'm done.
Alexander Clark
>implying they haven't been here for forever
Lincoln Davis
You forgot the part where Engels married an Irish Woman.
Jordan Rivera
Daily reminder ML's are the only ones with actual praxis.
Daniel Davis
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Adam Davis
>My post being unrelated is not a poor arguing tactic
Man, you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper friend.
Cameron Robinson
Dictators are the only thing that prevent human savagery, but keep telling yourself anarchism works.
Ethan Carter
Until you can make a convincing argument against the massive case against communism and socialism in the gulag archipelago, you're making moot points.
But I will assume your response is "real communism has never been done"
