Redpill me on Yugoslavia

Redpill me on Yugoslavia
Was it a shithole or paradise?
I heard things about Tito being a jew. Is that true?
I also heard things about jews actually destroying it Yugoslavia.
What do you think anons?

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>Was it a shithole or paradise?
Neither. But quite a nice place by Eastern bloc standards.

>I heard things about Tito being a jew. Is that true?
The most believable version is that he was a German noble. Nobody knows who he actually was.
>I also heard things about jews actually destroying it Yugoslavia.
>flag
Yep, blame it on somebody else.

>Yep, blame it on somebody else
No you got it wrong. The blame is not completely on (((them))). But tjey surely influenced it. Combine that with the sheep like Yugo mentality amd you get a recipe for disaster.
I dislike Yugoslavia but I ask these questions to see what /pol thinks about it.

Personally, I feel really sad about Yugoslavia. It was the best shot for Balcans to break out of shithole-tier. Too bad the synthetic nation didn't work out.

We have a too bloody past for such a country. It was destined to fail.

It was ruined by catholic fascist croats and bosnian jihadists. Serbs did nothing wrong.

Yup. Now we just have to have another war to divide your shithole and drive the Bosniak mudslimes back to turkey and we'll have a strong healthy region.
>strong Croatia
>strong Serbia
>finally economic allies

kek

>Serbs did nothing wrong
They actually fucked up the most
Yeah, no. Bosniaks deserve a state of our own. Give Bosnia to us and problem solved.

>Redpill me on Yugoslavia
>Was it a shithole or paradise?

It was a communist state that relied on credits from western banks. In the early 80s it became clear that they won't be able to pay back the money they owed and thus their economy fell appart which later lead to the ethnic tensions escalating.
As all communist countries it was bad but people managed to live somehwat decently.

>I heard things about Tito being a jew. Is that true?

He has a Shepradic Jewish surname and his ancestors did move to Zagorje from Spain.

>I also heard things about jews actually destroying it Yugoslavia.

No. Yugoslavia was destroyed by Serbian centralists and Saudi money because they wanted to take over Bosnia.

>What do you think anons?

That it was a bad idea and shouldn't be repeated.
Also we didn't split up properly.
Bosnia shouldn't exist as a country (fuck the Clintons for basically selling it to the Saudis).

>Bosnia shouldn't exist as a country
I understand the " remove kebab" meme, but what is the real reason we "don't deserve a country". It's like Bosnia came to existance in the 90's, which is obviously untrue ( pic related).

Yes that's why all your kings and nobles were Croats.

That kingdom was created when a few Croatian nobles got discontent with the Hungarian crown promoting centralist policies to deprave nobility of their influence.
The Šubić family rebelling was vital for the creation of the Kingdom of Bosnia.

It was dirty
Coast was covered in trash and broken bottles
Rusting appliances and cars left everywhere except at the town dump
Infrequently a tank would roll by just because they could
All the houses looked the same
Extra-marital affairs were promoted as was homosexuality
Families were separated by school and work
Churches existed but did little to support the community except suck them dry of donation money

Jews created Yugoslavia along with communist China as examples of what the NWO plan in action would look like.

>croatia
>serbia
>allies

>Yugoslavia
>Eastern bloc

Socialist =/= eastern block, Jacques.

Have you read the Charter od ban Kulin?
The first sentence is "Ja ban bosanski Kulin..."
meaning "I, the Bosnian ban Kulin".
If he, or any other Bosnian king was a Croat/Serb, they would state it. They all called themselves Bosnian bans/kings

This. Yugoslavia wasn't in the Eastern Block, thus resulting in the Stalin-Tito conflict.

>what are germany and france today

Source:
>your ass

>Comparing Germans and the French with Croats and Serbs

Ok, let's approach this minefield. Firstly, one must know that idea of Yugoslavia go back to Austria Hungary and Franz Ferdinand's idea of trialism - another slavic part to Austrian and Hungarian part of monarchy. This idea was enthusiastically accept in Slovene lands and Croatia (Illirism) despite opposition from party of rights in Croatia. Basic interest from Slovenes and Serbs into this idea was fact that Croatian crown have had historical backbone needed to affirm itself. Now, the equation nation = state seems only logical, but back then nation without historical state tradition meant nothing. For example Bohemia and Hungary and Croatia could claim rights due to the fact that emperor was wearing crown of this states and not because of nationhood - look also how Slovaks relied on Czechs.

This idea of Yugoslavia could actually worked because it's region were mostly central European Croatia, Slovenia aka Inner Austria and Vojvodina. Necessary cultural unity was present which was shaken after first world war. Because Franz Joseph was slow with changes and made too many concessions to Germans, Franz Ferdinand was killed - because Serbs were afraid that if his plan would become reality slavs from Habsburg empire wouldn't want to join Karadjordjevic's Serbia and Karl couldn't finished reforms Kingdom Of Yugoslavia came to being.

Now, this Kingdom have many problems from forcing idea of Yugoslavian nationhood, Serbian centralisation, shitty economy and cultural shock. Leader of Serbs from Habsburg empire Svetozar Pribicevic was literally shocked when he saw rest of Serbia. Also only region which managed profit ecomivally was Slovenia because firm which came to being in Austria Hungary suddenly had closed market where they could hold near monopoly.

But, due to ethnic tension Yugoslavian kingdom was slowly declining. Biggest reasons were increasing centralisation and killing of Croatian mps which gave rise to Ustashe movement which was marginal before.

>what are germany and france today
cucks

there s only one thing you should see
GOOGLE NSDD 133

Sounds scary. What is it?

right, but in the terms of their relations they both are fine with each others

>I also heard things about jews actually destroying it Yugoslavia.
It's completely Serbia's fault.

Completely no, mostly yes.

serbitches god them gunz from JNA
they ended up fleeing like niggers

the end

and second part: So after the ww2 socialist Yugoslavia came to being, which was firstly ordinary commie shithole, but Tito managed to pulled some brilliant diplomatic moves after his split from Stalin. Firstly, one must be aware of the fact that Italy have had strong communist party and that Tito was basically blackmailing the west about non supporting it. Secondly he managed to get back in good terms with eastern block after hungarian revolution of 1956 where he betrayed rebel Imre Nagy who was outspoken Titoist and pre war commie and handed him back to Soviets

This way Yugoslavia became kind of buffer zone between west and soviet block and popular tourist destination because it was luxurious from folks from eastern block and cheap for westeners. But, Yugoslavian companies also bought outdated western technology and sold it to the east and that was one of factors of economic stability which allowed national problems to be ignored for longer time.

So, despite Tito's brilliance in foreign policy he didn't understood inner one further from ''bread and games'' as he literally made same mistakes as Karađorđević kings. He centralised the state and supported idea of Yugoslavian nation. So, national problems were just ignored until economy stopped working and they exploded in simillar way than after begging of ww2.

Yugoslavia was basically misguided idea which luckily have brilliant enough foreign politcy to ignore inner problems long enough. Tito's only real legacy was independent movement and its refusal to become part of stupid cold war.

That's also a way to put it kek

>redpill me on yugoslavia

not enough religions, yugoslavia was not multicultural enough, it also needed a buddhist state thrown in there, you know, just for the sake of additional multicultural
yugoslavia also lacked a state that would use mongolian language and writing system, because you know, yugoslavia was not multicultural enough with its 20 different writing systems
yugoslavia also lacked enough multiculturalism when it came to foreign policy, with certain parts wanting to be more friendly with russians, some other parts wanting to be more friendly with germans, and some other parts wanting to be more friendly with turks
yugoslavia was clearly not multicultural enough when it came to everything

its the multiculturalism, retard
yugoslavia is a case study against multiculturalism #123123

Made me laugh, thanks.
Multiculturalism did contribute. Forced brotherhood and unity never worked

You fucking mudslim retard. By bosnian ban Kulin he mean HE MEANT HE WAS BAN OF BOSNIA, BOSNIA AS GEOGRAPHICAL REGION, U TARD. Jeezus you are so bad at this.

Really good tunes. youtu.be/xDCUC3rtF_c

Fuck off Jure.

I don't know you tell me your "country" actually was part of it.

Basically it was a typical commie country but you fucking Muslims ruined any chance it had for continuing on as a free country. Every country in Europe realizes now they should have let the Serbians wipe out the goddamn Muslims

Instead of the Croatians and Serbians fighting why the hell didn't you guys team up and kick the Muslims out? You and the Serbians could have sorted out your differences after the Mudslimes were gone

Bosnia was based, Serbs were bastards, the end.

because the war lasted ~10 years, and the muslims lasted only 1 or 2?
muslims were already removed, even from nato protected civilian settlements, not even to mention all of their actual cities in bosnia

They did't team up because the Serbs started the war you dumbass fucking leaf.You "knowledge" of this war is clearly based off of memes.

It was good until serbs aka christian turks decided to destroy it

It was OK since 1946 until 1970s

It sucked in 45 and during WW2 because communists needed to kill top 5% of rich population to get resources and property for future paradise.

After WW2 many people who lived in Yugoslavia fled to other countries like Canada, US, Australia... Some because they were accused to collaborate with germans in WW2 (those who lived in occupied areas had to), some because they were part of old aristocracy, some because they didnt fancy communism, some because they were afraid of communists...
Communists killed a lot of people after the war. At least 150 000 mostly civilian victims are buried in hidden mass graves in Slovenia alone.

After 70s results of laziness and over-employment in factories began to really show. Our economy was not able to compete with free market economies, and despite having closed market, smuggled imported goods were destroying balance.

When Tito died in 80s it was just a question when things will blow up.

Balkan wars in 90s were result of ethnic minorities living in republics that were not their native country (mostly Serbs living in Croatia and Bosnia that wanted to their lads to be part of Great Serbia) or in many cases payback for events during and after WW2

Serbian minority in Croatia wanted to include large portion of Croatia to new Great Serbia. This was not acceptable for Croats.
Some cities in Croatia, like Vukovar, were occupied by Serbs for years before Croats got them back.

Yugoslavia was the most logical country for the west balkan region. We're all south slavs, share cultural backgrounds with many similarities and speak the same language.
Yugoslavia was the only country that prospered in europe that wasn't a western power.
None of the succession states achieved or will likely achieve the amount of influence that yugoslavia had.
The ethnic nationalist movements of the 90s will be remembered as a very bad economic decision in the coming years, a large amount of people still believe it was unavoidable to split up the state but the concensus that yugoslavia was a beautiful country and a better time slowly grows among the population.

I AM A PROUD YUGOSLAVIAN.
And now whether you faggots want to acknowledge it or not this is what happened to yugoslavia.
CONTEXT: it was one of the richest countries in europe with solid growth, extensive well being, no debt, it was the so called market socialism. private property was allowed unlike soviet union and some limited private enterpreneurship.
> YUGOSLAVIA EXPORTED MACHINERIES TO AFRICA, IN EXCHANGE OF RAW MATERIALS, AND EVEN TO THE USA.
> yankees could not tolerate a succesfull socialism
> in 1984 RONALD REAGAN SIGNS NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTIVE DECISION 133 (NSDD 133) GIVING TO THE US INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES APPROVAL TO FINANCE ANY OPPOSITION MOVEMENTS IN YUGOSLAVIA
> wave of US dollars goes into any nationalist movement that would contribute do destroy the country
> people paid by the CIA started to destroy the country internally
propaganda of ethnic war was so effective everyone is still convinced it comes from ethnic hate.
NOTE: after the fall of the berlin wall, WEST GERMANY sold a shitload of soviet weapons found in east germany to croatian nationalists

that s in short for you autistic idiots, what happened to yugoslavia, one of the greatest nations that ever existed on earth.
further information you can find on youtube, search for "THE WEIGHT OF CHAINS"

Reminder that:

1. Serbs committed the most atrocities
2. Serbs carried out genocide against whites in the name of Serbian nationalism
3. Milosevic was a terrible leader
4. Serbs are anti-fascists
5. Serbs are more Asiatic than their neighbours

I don't know why you guys go against Hitler and support Serbs

This. Serbs contributed to white genocide

there was no overemployment. simply, crooked politicians wanted to destroy the country and have their share, like it is now. factories that were perfectly working were shut down, just to reduce employment and productivity.
it was all planned and staged.

shut the fuck up. simply the USA decided to blame serbs in order to take over KOSOVO.
> FOR YOU RETARDS, KOSOVO HAS IN NATURAL RESOURCES AND PRECIOUS METALS WHAT IRAQ HAS IN OIL. KOSOVO IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S RICHEST COUNTRIES IN PRECIOUS METAL ORE MINES.

shut up.
> BOSNJAK DOES NOT EXIST. croats are catholic, serbs orthodox, muslims wanted to find an identity and just invented it. all YUGOSLAV MUSLIMS ARE CROATS AND SERBS WHOSE FAMILIES CONVERTED TO ISLAM IN THE PAST
muslims should have been expelled from the balkans after the fall of ottoman empire
ALSO:
> DURING THE 1991-1995 WARS IN YUGOSLAVIA, SAUDI ARABIA SENT 20K MUJAHEEDIN TO CREATE A WAHHABI BASE THERE
fuck america. fuck kebabs. fuck muslims arabs and sandniggers

> YUGOSLAVIA FROM THE END OF WORLD WAR 2 UNTIL THE EARLY 80s HAD A STEADY ECONOMY GROWTH AVERAGING 6.1%
> YUGOSLAVIA HAD A SPACE PROGRAM AND ITS OWN DOMESTICALLY DESIGNED WEAPONS
> YUGOSLAVIA HAD THE 6th STRONGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD AND 4th IN EUROPE
that s why they wanted to destroy it

Bosniaks exist. In fact they were the only inhabitants of Bosnia until the 19th century (see pic related.
As for the Saudis and mujahedeen, fuck them all. Btw I am not a fond of islam.

fucktard let me explain. southern slavs where several tribes (raska, zeta, etc).
> after the scisma of the christian church, orthodox and catholic church started to exist. a line was drawn in the middle, and cut the southern slavs. that s how we have catholics and orthodox, and that s where yugoslavs where first split
the national identity of the bosniak was invented because of the ottoman kebab meddling. there is only bosnian "bosanac" which is referred to the person living there, that then might be serbian or croatian

THE WEIGHT OF CHAINS: explains the US plan of destruction of yugoslavia
youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08

wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weight_of_Chains

I was born in SFRY and I will die in it after it's remade.

If it was so great, why did it fall apart the second a unifying force (Tito) died?

razumijem te brate, but this will not be possible if we were not divided as we are. an odl proverb says, if we wouldn t have religion or ethnicity, we would divide by people that eat white bread and people that eat black bread.
YUGOSLAVIA WAS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL COUNTRIES THAT EVER EXISTED IN THIS WORLD
that s why the west wanted to destroy it
and we were too naive, divided, and greedy for the small breadcrumbs to fight for our nation
PROKLET BIO IZDAJICA SVOJE DOMOVINE

tito was the father of the nation.
he was not unifying, rather scaring the traitors of the nation.
the biggest problem of tito was that he was too naive. the secret service (UDB) was full of people like Arkan, zeljko raznatovic, yes the husband of Ceca the singer. he was a spy for the UDB do you know? and also a criminal. instead of purging the impure elements from the inside, they let him.
not purging the evil elements from the government, those evil elements that later destroy the hand that fed them and created these mafia micro nations

>PROKLET BIO IZDAJICA SVOJE DOMOVINE
Ja to pevam svaki put kad se intonira himna. Zivi bili pa videli. Vec sam u politici, inkognito, za godinu dve krecem i jace. Bice ovako kako sam rekao i to je to.

A trebalo je da bude ovako "Ko ne slusa pjesmu, slusace oluju"
youtube.com/watch?v=5pkAwXlduks

Brotherhood and unity was a lie.

i would like to talk in OUR language to you, but i want foreigners to understand.

yugoslavia can be a classic example of destruction from inside.
a country that had its own indipendent policy, founder of the non aligned movement, beloved in the whole world.
6th strongest army in the world. no army could afford a frontal assault to us. but why would they? why would you go on war with such a military power, when you can just shill money to nationalist criminals that will start the civil war.
yugoslavia is basically the 90s edition of what is going on in ukraine now: the US intelligence pumping money

Yugoslavia was ok, unfortunately serbs took the bait and acted too brutal instead of taking a step by step aproach while the croats and bosniaks were radicalised by CIA.

The serbian government and army of the 90s was a tightly knit construct of the mafia and those who feared them.
Milosevic's reign was a shitshow full of political assassinations, corruption and mismanagment of ressources. He also was responsible for the majority of atrocities commited.
Not many serbs remember the terror of the 90's fondly, they were eating their own at that time.

why brotherhood and unity was a lie? tell me.
it was only thanks to the brotherhood and unity of yugoslavia that we achieved what was the best economic prosperity ever achieved in that cursed piece of land called balkans.
that land has never been richer before, and i doubt it will be in future.
but as an old proverb says "... i dok bosanci sve to shvate, tada ce biti SFRJ brate"

no one initially took the bait. the US intelligence first encouraged the release of "political dissidents" (the criminals that started the war). then, gave them money, they recruited hooligans from football stadiums and criminals, armed them. once the war started, people had to take a side.
remember, arkan was a dirty criminal, franjo tudjman was in prison under tito.
milosevic might have had a good idea, but simply was incapable of handling such a hot situation.
also, starting pic dump

>"... i dok bosanci sve to shvate, tada ce biti SFRJ brate"
kek

> PIC RELATED, MERCENARY FROM SOUTH AFRICA INVOLVED IN BOSNIAN YUGOSLAV WAR

>yugoslavia, one of the greatest nations that ever existed on earth

WE WUZ ALTANTIS N SHEET

Nice source, leaf. Thanks for wasting my team reading that.

KADA SRBIN HRVATU KAŽE BRATE, KAD SLOVENCI PIĆE PLATE, KAD SE CRNOGORCI POSLA LATE , MAKEDONCI DOBIJU VEĆE PLATE, A BOSANCI SVE TO SHVATE OPET ĆE BITI JUGA BRATE.
> WHEN A SERB CALLS A CROAT BROTHER, WHEN SLOVENIANS WILL PAY A DRINK, WHEN MONTENEGRINS WILL WANT TO WORK, WHEN MACEDONIANS WILL HAVE HIGHER SALARIES, AND BOSNIANS WILL UNDERSTAND ALL THIS, THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR YUGOSLAVIA AGAIN BROTHER

It was a lie because Tito forced it. Once he died everybody grabbed their knives and continued the usual Balkan business.

shut up mehmet, your margaret thatcher gave too much money to destroy my homeland so you shouldn t afford to say a word.

the leaf said retarted things. everyone wants to say something about yugoslavia while they don t know shit.

Wife is Croatian from Herzegovina, Surname is from Lika, bloodline is Montenegro/Serbia mix, 3rd generation in Belgrade.
Just need Macedonia and Slovenia and the mix is done.

lepo ti kazem, rodio sam se u SFRJ u nekoj verziji te zemlje cu i umreti

people were paid to grab their knives. if tito at least killed some of those fucking dissidents, things would have been different

> please read carefully those 2 documents

6th military in the world.
continuing picdump

Always the CIA
It's always the CIA.

>But muh America da best
Burgers fucked the world

YUGOSLAVIA WAS AMONG THE FOUNDERS OF THE NON ALIGNED MOVEMENT. IT WAS A MOVEMENT OF COUNTRIES WHICH DID NOT WANT TO BE NEITHER UNDER AMERICAN NOR UNDER SOVIET INFLUENCE.
TITO AND YUGOSLAVIA WERE LOVED EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD
YUGOSLAVIA MANAGED TO SELL A LOT OF MACHINERIES TO POOR AFRICAN COUNTRIES IN EXCHANGE FOR RAW MATERIALS. THE BARTER SYSTEM BENEFITED BOTH

The brotherhood and unity was so strong that people sold it right after Tito died. Fucking kek.
Listen. As much as I would like it for Yugoslavia to work, it doesn't and never will.

Croatian culture was Central European until Serbian monarchy and then socialism killed our best people and destroyed our culture. Serbian culture is Turkish. Croats shall strive towards reestablishing lost civilization which excludes any kind of mixing or political alliance from Serbia. Yugoslavia was a terrible mistake.

I have this Slovenian friend. He's like 37 and when we first met, I asked him where he was from. He said:


>I'm from Slovenia but Yugoslavia is always going to be my motherland.

Don't get me wrong, he wasn't a commie. But before the war, people were getting along fine you know. Tito was somehow keeping people together.
You guys could have achieved great things together. I like this documentary. It was made by a Serb but he's impartial.

Tezina Lanaca 1
youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08

Tezina Lanaca 2
youtube.com/watch?v=vNNG_mn_9DU

(You)

>That football team today though combined
Would win the world cup.
>Modric, Matic, Dzeko BASED

yes

it does not work because people are retarded. with proper education and proper governmental purges of the traitors, it would work

Exactly. You hate me enough to shitpost and I don't want to have anything to do with you. Croatia is based on the thousand year old kingdom and close cooperation with Austrians, our closest brothers. You go do your thing with Turks and Russians or whatever.

Na lad, that football team was class.

1. step is always denial
daily reminder that your country is in the balkans, ante. why fact hurts you so much?

Reminder - Tito did nothing wrong.

Democracy is easily shaken by nationalism and the western powers took full advantage of that in Yugoslavia.

The irony is that the exactly same thing is happening now in the european union.
Once economical strength falls the whole thing will stay glued either by sheer force or it will crumble.

ahahhaha here comes the idiot.
THE PROUD CROAT TALKS. suck my dick. who destroyed croatia more than croatian nationalists (HDZ)? sanader, ina mol scandal, etc... the "domoljubi" are those that threw the country in even bigger debts. the highest prosperity even for croatia and slovenia was under socialism.

croatia is part of yugoslavia. for centuries we defended europe from the kebabs. and we will keep doing it.

Ah yes, classic divide and rule

>Redpill me on Yugoslavia
Multiethnic and multicultural state doomed to failed from the beginning like all multicultural and multiethnic states

yeah i do agree about that, but there are wannabe western cocksuckers like the one you replied to, it's pathetic to watch him trying to act like he belongs to german culture lol

Which minerals?
Afghanistan for example has vast Lithium reserves

even in austria hungary, croatia was a minor player, basically nothing. in yugoslavia it was a constituent nation and tito was croat so shut the fuck up.

exactly. TITO WAS TOO NAIVE. he should have killed the traitors.

UKRAINE IS YUGOSLAVIA 2.0

Eastern Bloc includes Yugoslavia and Albania you fucking idiots. Warsaw Pact and eastern bloc aren't synonyms.

Yugoslavia is where the Virgin Mary appears regularly to the visionaries in medjugorie. Well when she began appearing there medjugorie was part of communist Yugoslavia
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Medjugorje

She still appears there and I saw the miracle of the sun while therevdurung one of her appearances

Is it true that Croatian and Serbian is the same language just one is written with the western alphabet and the other with the Russian alphabet?

cinemakomunisto.com/

yes, "western" alphabet is latin and "russian" alphabet is cyrillic evolved since the times of bulgarian empire from where it came after glagholic

Yes, there are minor regional differences and different loanwords. Most people are way too butthurt to admit it though.