What is your opinion on "don't punch right" or "no enemies to the right"? Lauren Southern recently did a video on it and I'm curious what Sup Forums's opinion is.
Advocates for not punching right would say that strength comes from unity of shared purpose, and that concern trolling is what drives wedges between potentially successful movements to effect change. Advocates also state that you have more in common with those on your same spectrum, and that disagreements can happen "around the dinner table", but that when presented with opposing ideologies, a unified front is the only way to maintain. (i.e. a monarchist and a libertarian can live the same life, but disagree about how best to live it, while a libertarian and a progressive or a monarchist and a democratic socialist never can.)
Advocates against say that restrictions on criticism of those to your right ferments allowances for extremism, and that by not keeping those extremists in check, you allow them to splinter, or eventually take over a particular movement. Advocates against also argue that blanket restrictions on criticism leads to cult like adherence to things you have moral or ethical disagreements with, leading to lockstep force of will.
>Thoughts? Lauren Southern is a degenerate 30 year old kike working for CSIS while snorting lines of shekels acquired from thirsty betamales on Twitter and no one gives two flying fucks about her here so stop making these stupid shill threads.
tl;dr: saged and hidden
Wyatt Carter
Hey, that flag forgot about the REAL right-wing.
Though I suppoae the prudent Statist doesn't expect help from us.
Matthew Collins
How many Children does Lauren Southern have? if the Answer is Zero then that is how much attention you should give her.
Easton Howard
fuck off with the abrahamic bullshit fuck off with the abrahamic bullshit fuck off with the abrahamic bullshit fuck off with the abrahamic bullshit
idont agree with her because this really isnt a logical based war
the left won for 50 years with nothing but catch phrases half truths and over exagarations
obviously fact is better and we have some hard hitting facts
but there is also absolutely nothing wrong with over exgeration and half truth to amplify leftist faults. this is a dirty war, not an intellectual war
Asher Diaz
>thoughts ecelebs should almost always be ignored. They are not politics, they are gossip. Please present only the idea next time. Anyway, the idea is unsound - the next time I have to argue with someone that women should not have the right to equal representation under the law I will. I don't care if Ben Shapiro argues for or against it, if lauren southern does or doesn't, hell I don't care what Jim says. It's my opinion that I form for myself, and I find that when someone, anyone, makes a poor opinion that has popularity I find it worth my time to argue against their point. That does not mean anything about the person who is arguing. It's the principles and values that matter, not who holds them.
Wyatt Hill
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Zachary Murphy
>don't punch right I don't think George Papadopoulos got the memo. Your movement died 16 June 2015. Everything after that was just one long death rattle.
>implying George Poopypants was anything but a DNC plant.
Eli Lee
Define "extremism"
James Flores
Are we talking about right wingers or nazis?
Anthony Sanders
Are we talking about right-wingers or anarcho-degenerates?
Jace Ross
European here, I think part of the success of leftists in Europe has been that they have very much avoided punching each other in the last several decades.
There's respectful disagreement, but they always pull their punches. They make a spectrum of opinions without savagely attacking each other. This causes feelings of calm and comfiness to onlookers, who can always find something they support.
Hence I absolutely agree we shouldn't punch right. About the "take over a particular movement" argument, I don't really see that as a meaningful way of thinking, because taking over requires numbers, and if they are sufficient numbers then they really are the movement and you should find another movement. About moral and ethical disareements, those will always tend to be stronger with leftists.
This could be different in some very specific situations and under particular conditions (e.g. you have a moderate-right party and suddenly during a speech one of your leaders who go full 14/88 without warning) - but basically keep a range of right-wing options available that don't fight each other.
Jose Morales
Obvious hard NO. The left does not punch left and character assassinates to the right, and it is a bad strat. Enough said on that: so to you authoritarian right fuckers, you better listen the fuck up:
You better think long and hard before you take a short jab left: keep killing commies and hating sjw forever, God bless ya. But keep your eye on that Overton window, boyos; your allies do not like your end game; we want liberty.
The quicker you punch left too close to home, the harder your endgame becomes. Learn from the left's failure; allow us to demonize you exactly as we MUST, and you just ignore it and proceed with your operations. You must be the bigger man if either of us will succeed; we need each other so badly and we will have to have a final bloody confrontation at the end of the road.
But it is a long fucking road, and the freedom movement has to lead the way if you want your authoritarian 4th Reich hellhole. That means you step in that and like it for a while, and we genuinely appreciate you having our backs until the day of the final rope.
Dylan Sanders
I fucked exactly one word up in there, and it really made it confusing.
Ian Miller
Considering Sup Forums is about as far right as you can go, us advocating for "not punching right" is perfectly reasonable
Anthony Stewart
>Sup Forums is a single-player game. t.
Thomas Gutierrez
do not punch right and we will win.
let anyone who even subtly advocates for white self-determination, the right to discriminate, and the right to maintain ethnic or racially homogeneous communities do their thing in peace. keep punching right and we will eat ourselves like the left. we can worry about the finer points later. don't get caught up in nitpicking or purity spirals. that is literally how the left lost and how we got trump. we can do better, yes, but we need as broad a coalition as possible to keep pushing the overton window and winning over minds.
James Diaz
>love your race So, will the adl also add it's okay to be white to the list of (((incorrect))) symbols?
Henry Wilson
she literally worked for génération identitaire and physically helped keep third world scum out of europe. you are either a massive kike shill or a brainfucked /x/ refugee. go back home.
Ethan Thompson
IF we are going to get a right wing alliance going, an actual lasting one We need a plan to divide up the west on ideological lines after purging the leftists from it I vote America is for the Libertarians/AnCaps and Europe is for everyone else, as it should be
Cooper Baker
Wrong. We are obligated to punch right and they to take it. It is to both our benefits that those closer to the center denounce those further right. The left is doing it backwards and it is why they are failing.
