Why can't leftists and commies leave other countries alone? I would have literally no problems with leftists and commies if they just left people alone. Want communism? Want socialism? Want a country that has no white people? Ok, go ahead, but why does your shit need to be forced EVERYWHERE? Why does every country in the world need to be a communist multiracial shithole?
Those ''ebil capitalists'' don't want worldwide capitalism. People on Sup Forums are perfectly ok with North Korea, China and whatever country doing whatever the fuck they want. Those ''ebil white nationalists'' aren't saying that every country on earth needs to be white. No one is saying that people should invade Japan, kill all the natives and replace them with whites. Why can't communists not be assholes? Go ahead and have your communism. Don't force it on other countries. There are plenty of countries that would be susceptible to communism where you could move to and advocate for communism, and you would succeed. Why can't you assholes just for once just leave some countries alone and let them do things the way they want? If some countries like capitalism and other countries like communism, there is nothing wrong with that. The fuck is the problem with /leftypol/ retards?
Gavin Long
I feel you bro, I feel you.
Ryder Ward
because they think communism will only work once there isn't any alternative left
Ryan Baker
they can't it is in their nature, they idea of living depends on leeching off others and that's why oyu can't coexist with them. they are a plaque which will kill you sometimes slower sometimes faster but the end result is always the same. They aren't humans like us and If we want to be left alone they all need to hang.
Jeremiah Hill
Step1: Start a business selling communists in the west as slaves to the few actual Communist countries,
Step2: Hire dissidents who will work for cheap/free because they are just happy to be outa there
Step 3 ...
Step 4 Profit
Levi Bailey
It's so fucking frustrating how everywhere I go I have to deal with fucking communists. Even the most backwater African countries are infested with communists. Just go make your stupid utopia somewhere else. Can't even have one day of peace without some red shirt wearing autist waving the flag with loud speakers at the park
William Green
educated janka shows up
Gavin Barnes
AGENDA 21
Jaxson Morales
>Those ''ebil capitalists'' don't want worldwide capitalism. They do, and they have it already. Hence why communism is worldwide.
Nathaniel Wood
If you commies stuck to caring about your people not starving to death instead of trying to spread your bullshit ideology around the Cold War would not have happened
Jace Parker
By the way, it's actually explained in the Manifesto: >The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere. >The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of Reactionists, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established national industries have been destroyed or are daily being destroyed. They are dislodged by new industries, whose introduction becomes a life and death question for all civilised nations, by industries that no longer work up indigenous raw material, but raw material drawn from the remotest zones; industries whose products are consumed, not only at home, but in every quarter of the globe. In place of the old wants, satisfied by the production of the country, we find new wants, requiring for their satisfaction the products of distant lands and climes. In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.
Jace James
Because communism will never work if there's an alternative and even communists know it. It wouldn't work anyway, but it fails even faster in a world with capatalism.
Lincoln Murphy
>The bourgeoisie, by the rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls, with which it forces the barbarians’ intensely obstinate hatred of foreigners to capitulate. It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.
Aiden Jackson
This. One of these days they're going to cross the line and we will genocide them from amongst us
Jaxson Powell
Stalinists never cared around spreading the revolution, but rather about facilitating Russia's capitalist primitive accumulation and further development. The Cold war wasn't about revolution, but rather about inter-imperialist competition (just like WW1 and WW2).
Brody Morales
Leftism isn't something one chooses for oneself, it's something one seeks to inflict on others, obstensibly for their own good but in truth because one secretly hates them.
David Allen
I fucking hate you retarded commies. You never engage in conversation, and when you actually do engage, it's these retarded quotes with pretentious wording. What the quote essentially is saying is that communists are going to get envious if they have ''da bourgeoisie'' as neighbors, and communism is going to fail because of envy as commies adapt ''capitalism'' so they could emulate the non-retards and their nice countries. That's literally what it says. It literally says that commies don't want other people having nice stuff because it is going to remind them that they live in a shithole. You couldn't just say that outright, you had to post some stupid quote.
Robert Wright
Your interntionalistic communism is no better than imperialism, infart it is worse. At least with imperialism the colonized received order,infrastructure and civilization. You faggots just comes in and make even the richest countries turn into a third world shithole. Fuck you and fuck commies, the day of the rope will come and I will personally tie the rope for you
Zachary Perez
Communists and socialists are greedy, and they understand that they have to be violent to satisfy their greed. Begging for charity only gets you so much.
Justin Walker
So the only solution to the commie problem IS helicopters.
Andrew James
Took the words right out of my mouth
Nicholas Edwards
Leftards push it on everyone because it can't 'work' by itself/themselves
Aiden Mitchell
>I fucking hate you retarded commies. You never engage in conversation, and when you actually do engage, it's these retarded quotes with pretentious wording. There's nothing pretentious in that wording. But you obviously don't understand it so here's what the quote actually says:
Adrian Richardson
Because for communism to actually "work" it needs the entire world to be a under 1 rule.
Matthew Perry
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Jeremiah Phillips
Lemme guess you're a Rick and Morty fan too
Brody Nguyen
Marx had a bourgeoisie vocabulary.
Luis Howard
A what fan?
Ayden Miller
>In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency
Never heard of a nationalist communist, oxymoron.
>, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.
Capitalism had answers to those problems called patents and DRM. As shitty as they are in implementation to a libertarian like me, there is something to the basic principle of a system to incentivize and protect intellectual labor.
We see once again the root of the communism tree is just as rotten and self defeating hypocrisy as every leftist that falls for it.
Thanks for illustrating your stupid religion in crayon for us.
Julian Ward
muh bourgeoisie
Adam Morales
Really should make a list for them.
>Don't like white people? Move to Zimbabwe. >Don't like capitalism? Move to Venezuela. >Don't like freedom of speech? Move to North Korea.
Connor Evans
>But you obviously don't understand it Bullshit, you fucking retard. This is exactly why you post these pretentious overly verbose quotes instead of talking straight like a normal human being, it's so that the moment anyone tries to engage you in conversation you can accuse them of not understanding something. You're either lying or you are the one who doesn't understand the quote. Knowing communists, it's probably both.
The quote is literally saying that ''the bourgeoisie'' (i.e a communist buzzword used for non-communists) are doing great things which compel others to copy them and reject retarded communism. That is literally (literally) what it says.
Jeremiah Butler
Bourgeoisie doesn't mean anyone who isn't a communist, it's talking a directly about the capitalist class (the people who own private property and use wage labour for generation of capital)
Isaiah Martin
Daily reminder that most commies are bourgeoisie and the people they usually autisticly screech against are working class blue collar workers.
This is why higher education needs to be eradicated and tradescraft be taught instead. Fucking colleges are overpriced hugboxes who poison children with bullshit like this
Also glory to the Estonian SS
Charles Howard
>the people who own private property and use wage labour for generation of capital aka everyone who isn't a communist Everyone owns private property, whether it's land, money or even their own body, which they use to generate capital. The only way you can't be [insert retarded communist buzzword] is by not owning yourself and the capital you generate with your own body.
Jeremiah Morales
Marx differentiates between personal property and private property. All those things you listed are personal property, unless the land you use to run a business on with employees.
Robert Hill
Also I find Marx waxing on about nationalism particularly offensive because as we know communism is about maximized government power and discarding the rights of the smallest tribe: the family.
Therefore the rights and positive impact of larger tribes (community, nation) are also discarded in communism. There can be no family, for the family man might have more than his neighbor. What if his three kids work for him versus his neighbor's none?
The individual is subsumed into the collective. Instant nightmare, just add smug urban inbred genderqueer faggots to burn down civilization faster.
Carson Green
Also the money you earn isn't capital you worked for the boss gets that surplus value, he just pays you a wage.
Christian Rivera
I couldn't really give a shit what Marx, the idiot loser who starved his children, thought. A piece of shit is a better thinker than Marx. Land, money and your body are all your private property that communists claim do not belong to you. They can go gas themselves.
Justin Bennett
>Why can't leftists and commies leave other countries alone?
A single great power cut loose from their control would end everything they had for centuries.
Quote regarding Abe Lincoln's Greenback (US govt value-based interest-free currency) The establishment Times of London stated: "If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic [i.e. honest Constitutionally authorized no debt money] should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt [to the international bankers]. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."
Mason Johnson
In that state your name doesn't really matter now does it, you're just another number.
Julian Stewart
LOL ok now you are definitely trolling, there is no way you have been on the internet and don't know what ricky and morty is
Gavin Jackson
As I said those things you listed are not private property they are personal property. Land can be personal or private property depending on whether you run a business on it or you use it yourself. Communists are not after you toothbrush. Read a book nigger.
Lincoln Edwards
The short form answer from their perspective is that capitalism undermines communism, so that where capitalism is allowed to thrive it will undermine communism in foreign countries. There is a certain truth to this (think US intervention in South America, in particular Nicaragua).
But there's no reason to pay any attention to communists, the ideology is dead and buried. It failed in practice so spectacularly that no-one is going to attempt to replicate it again. The most you'll get is some fused system, ie the socialist system pretty much every country lives under now (name one pure capitalist country, go on, I dare you).
Zachary Thomas
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Nathan Morales
Thank you Latvianbro, also what is a good place for a non-commie tourist to come visit in eastern Europe for a vacation? Some have told me luxembourg is really nice
Austin Hernandez
They may not be "after your toothbrush" but they are after all your wealth, your health, your ability to create a food supply, and the ability to farm....
You will literally starve under communism or socialism, its not rocket science man it happens LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME in history. Even look at Venezuela right now!
Jason Nelson
>But there's no reason to pay any attention to communists, the ideology is dead and buried. It failed in practice so spectacularly that no-one is going to attempt to replicate it again. The most you'll get is some fused system, ie the socialist system pretty much every country lives under now (name one pure capitalist country, go on, I dare you).
It's true but it's like video games for the right. It's a mental escape where dumb leftists can go fantasize their dystopia where everyone is reduced to equal mud being stamped under an endless boot.
Therefore it's advantageous to demoralize them by pointing out all the flaws in their dumb fantasy to help curb lefty faggots that wear red stars and fantasize about ordering around people more successful than them while wearing a shitty beret.
Eli Morris
Before even thinking of traveling you should look at a goddamn map. Luxembourg is not located in Eastern Europe. Though Luxembourg is a pretty nice country.
Robert Lopez
That's LITERALLY the only way Communism would ever work, and even then, there would still be unsolvable problems, like materials being stolen but that being okay because "everything belongs to everyone".
Robert Murphy
I forgot that Luxembourg was even a country
Aaron Johnson
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Zachary Young
It's not just that but the individual is maximally de-empowered under communism.
Even in the democratic socialist police state that has developed in the USA I can still fight back somewhat by hiring lawyers, buying a gun, travel to foreign country, hiring help etc.
Nathaniel Moore
FK, I meant Lithuania, I always get those two names confused, Lithuania is right next to Latvia I am pretty sure
Camden White
>Therefore it's advantageous to demoralize them
Easiest way to do that is to tell them that a communist country needs farmers and workers, not graphic designers and baristas. These are exactly the people that were disappeared during red terror.
But why you would care how these characters cope with their existence is beyond me. A soy boy dreaming of communism is kind of like a brown haired kid with a suspicious nose dreaming of national socialism.
Zachary Walker
>But why you would care how these characters cope with their existence is beyond me.
It's hard to adequately express how leftist subversion has crept into every aspect of life in the US to someone that doesn't live here I guess.
Education, entertainment, conversations on the street etc.
Communism is the root of many of their shitty ideas.
I bet you have neighbors you still talk to and a community you take part in if you're really from Oz for example.
Eli Williams
Jesus Christ man, Luxembourg and Lithuania don't even sound similar. One is German sounding and does actually look like Germany, other is an ex-commie country that looks more like Poland. Lithuania is fine. I've been there but I haven't really seen anything that interesting there. A lot of people travel to Latvia to look at old buildings in Riga, but me being Latvian I don't see anything that interesting about them having seen them hundreds of times.
I don't know why you'd want to come here, but then again I don't see the appeal of going to Egypt to look at some we wuz pyramids either.
Andrew Wright
As someone who was born in the 80's, Europe has become a pain in the arse to follow at times with ever shifting boarders. Last time I ever really paid attention to a map of Europe is when Yogoslavia was still a thing. Since then the amount of countries doubled with the fall of the iron curtain.
Cooper Nelson
How much of Latvia did the commies destroy?
Isaac Campbell
>tfw you make these people so butthurt they start spending all day LARPing as eastern euros pottery
Kayden Nelson
>I bet you have neighbors you still talk to and a community you take part in if you're really from Oz for example.
Nope. That's dead here too, at least in the major cities (massive population and turning cities into the tower of babel will do that). But indulging the left and treating them seriously doesn't do much for you. Laugh at them and watch them melt under the weight of their neurosis.
Noah Cook
Might as well be asking why viruses or cancers don't go to someone else's body. Its in their nature to infect
Dylan Taylor
Leftism is all about controlling other people's lives. It's the whole point. Anything else they say is window dressing.
Oliver Peterson
Yeah good point, I feel like even if Bernie Sanders became President, a lot of more wealthy and smarter people could still bully him since he is a weak sack of shit in general
Dylan Brooks
Thanks, Nip. You were based during WW2 too.
Christopher Ward
I don't want to go to Egypt unless I can get a coptic Christian gf there
Carter Ramirez
Pretty much all of it really. They killed and deported a lot of people, pretty much any thinker was seen as a threat and got offed. They took over in a time of optimism and growth, and they put the entire country into dirt and flooded it with Russians. Latvians are extremely pessimistic because of the commie past. Many cities are just depressing to look at too since there's commie blocks everywhere. It's fucking embarrassing living here after what the commies did to the country.
Levi Cook
Communism is an endstate utopia and is only accomplished if everyone (on this planet) is subjugated to it, also called Internationale. That is also why communism was never tried; it is an unnatural state and even if accomplished would collapse the next moment. I feel you but it’s their ideology that is defined in spreading their cancer.
Andrew Lee
Jesus Christ now I know why you're all grumpy and pessimistic. You must even feel the effect now with the country still recovering. Wish you all the best. We ourselves almost had it until a based hero stabbed a commie in his fatass with a sword.
Brody Perry
Battle of Narva, Battle of Tannenburg, you guys BTFOed hundreds of thousands of commies back then despite them having better equipment and outnumbering you by the hundreds. Wish you and your country the best of luck.
Samuel Sullivan
>still recovering We left one union and then joined another shortly after. The (((European))) Union did nothing but shut down factories, put regulations on us and then opened borders so our people can leave and work minimum wage in their countries. Great for greedy globalists who need cheap labor, not that great for us. You can't really have any real recovery when everyone leaves to work for 6 euros an hour in another country as soon as they hit 18. Imagine if US opened their borders and allowed every Mexican to come into US. Who would benefit from it? Only the people who want cheap labor. Mexico would just continue to go down the toilet.
Nicholas Ramirez
What (((politicians))) thought it was a great idea to finally leave an authoritarian state to eventually join another? I guess your people didn't really have a choice, there's always the threat of Russia chimping out in the East and the people still willing to help you are the Europeans in the West
Benjamin Nelson
its called cancer
Carson Harris
The people voted to join EU. From what I remember everyone thought it was a great idea at the time, like we were finally joining the big boy club and going to be spearheaded into the future. Shortly after joining the union pretty much all coverage of EU went from positive to negative. After that everyone forgot about the EU since our number 1 problem became was people leaving the country because of the EU open borders. Somewhere along the line everyone forgot who opened those borders, so people generally see EU positively while still being upset about our country being killed by open borders. I don't think anyone remembers anymore why people are leaving in the first place.
Brandon Thomas
to be fair you do have to have a high IQ to understand the show...
Josiah Allen
i would just say you all should vote out but unfortunately what's common in all post commie bloc countries is that they all become obsessed with the West afterwards and suck the West's cock in order just to distance themselves away from the past. But hey you know English so your job opportunities might be better than many in your country
Adam Richardson
This nigga knows what's up, but nobody's talking about it.
Zachary Clark
Surprisingly there's not that much sucking of Western dick here. The biggest hurdle of trying to leave the EU is the fact that it's a goddamn mafia. You saw how these ''people'' treated the UK when they tried to leave EU. They threaten them. They say that if you leave EU you will not be able to trade with them anymore, which will cripple your economy. There is no practical reason why any country couldn't leave the EU and still keep trading, there just isn't. EU are using their power as leverage threatening to cut all trade if anyone dares to leave.
This is also how they get countries to join EU. One of the main draws of EU was that they advocated themselves as some sort of a trading union that will allow you to have much better trade. It's such a goddamn scam. They're selling people a solution to a problem that they create. The only reason any country has problems trading with another country is because of fucking EU.