Why haven't you faggots converted to Anarcho-Communism yet?
>No rulers
>No cunt boss
>No faggots born into rich families
>No wagefag related stress
>Incredibly sexual social climate giving way to assured virginity loss
>Automation plus equally divided labor gives way to less time dedicated to work and more time to living a fulfilling life
>Drugs
>Guns
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>No rulers
>No cunt boss
>No faggots born into rich families
>No wagefag related stress
>Incredibly sexual social climate giving way to assured virginity loss
>Automation plus equally divided labor gives way to less time dedicated to work and more time to living a fulfilling life
>Drugs
>Guns
You just described what it would be like to live in a Fallout 4 raider camp.
No.
Also communists are the laziest people I have ever met. How do you divide their labor when there isn't any?
>Why haven't you faggots converted to Anarcho-Communism yet?
Because it's idealistic.
>You just described what it would be like to live in a Fallout 4 raider camp.
Except no because raider camps are based on hierarchy, theft, and often times slavery, so uhm try again sweaty ;^)
>communists are the laziest people I have ever met. How do you divide their labor when there isn't any?
This is literally the stupidest argument I have ever heard. When it comes down to it, anyone who is part of a commune that is based on voluntary communism is going to be on board. If they arent, they can gtfo.
The concept that its unrealistic is in itself its inherently illogical, as the concept of why suffering is necessary is illogical
but the fact that it's illogical is what makes it feel more realistic
because we're so used to people doing illogical stuff
Basically what im saying is that most people are so used to a shitty planet that they base their ideologies around a need for the planet to be shitty, ie capitalism, instead of making an effort to fix the problems.
Neck yourself faggot. I'll be damned if I have to go through an additional decade of education after my undergrad to do a job, and get the same pay as you spineless worthless, sacks of shit.
will you be equally as damned when you go through said decade of education and wind up with no job whatsoever? There is literally no assurance of you getting a well-paying job regardless of how long you spend in college.
Because it's a teenage fag tier idoldgy White Natalnlisom is the way forward mate
wow max degeneracy neat
kys
>Holding on to a dead ideology
>Willingly wanting to be a slave to a government
spooky ass niggas
Wanting to live a hippy world were everyone just sits round all day taking smack and spreading aids that shit will never happen you will understand when you grow up kid now get your homework done ready for school in morning
Thought about converting once, then my 14th birthday passed and I decided not to be a childish faggots retard
hang yourself from a tree commie fag
Because I am older than 18 and don't get my entire income from my parents.
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oxymoron by definition
How do you seize the means of production without a state? Do you just walk into a factory and take their shit?
Just die.
>no rules
somebody just get in your home rape your childs steal everything and walk away happly
>no cunt boss
not every boss is jewish.
>no faggots born into rich families
jealous much ?
>>Incredibly sexual social climate giving way to assured virginity loss
smells like std to me
>Automation plus equally divided labor gives way to less time dedicated to work and more time to living a fulfilling life
basically work as much as you do now but get nothing return.
>Drugs
drugs are bad for your health and if you do you are degenerate that need to be purged
>Guns
you can get them even in walmart
We grew up
Well, the idea is that with the rise of automation, capitalism will eat itself and collapse.
How so? Do you even know anything about Anarcho-communism? Because this is honestly something I hear people say when they don't actually understand anarcho-communism
Communist states like ussr had very strict laws anarchy means a lawless state so how can you mix them retard it's not hard to see the flaws in little fantasy
Because communism is an extreme ideology and people who still want it have a screw loose.
Libertarian socialism sounds OK.
The fact that most anarchists didn't let commies organise them this weekend is pretty cool.
Conflating Anarchism with outright communism is bogus, there are variations like anarcho syndicalism and green anarchism.
I’m stupid, but I haven’t reached the level of stupid it takes to accuse the president of Russian collusion and treason, while siamotainously wanting to adopt a Russian political system.
>be ancomm
>everyone is their own boss
>no law
>no order
>no state
>everyone doing what they want
>crime is rampant
>hordes of criminals organise raids everywhere, neighboring countries included
>neighboring countries gets tired of your shit and bomb you to hell
>there is no state therefore there is no army for you to defend yourself
>get slaughtered or flee your meme """country"""
please, tell me how it's not contradictory
>No rulers
There are always people in charge. What it comes down to is the right or the wrong people.
>No cunt boss
Do you imagine not having supervisors in a communist job?
>No faggots born into rich families
Poor Fag detected.
>No wagefag related stress
Do you imagine not having to work at all in a communist society?
>Incredibly sexual social climate giving way to assured virginity loss
If you aren't getting laid now, a different economic system isn't going to change that.
>Automation plus equally divided labor gives way to less time dedicated to work and more time to living a fulfilling life
Is it equally divided labour if your engineers and programmers are getting the paid the same wage as your secretaries and janitors, despite going to school for much longer and working much harder to master that knowledge?
>Drugs
We have alcohol, tobacco, weed, and a huge list of pharma drugs, besides the openly available black market. We don't need cocaine and heroin in every corner store.
>Guns
America has more guns and more guns per person than any country in the world.
Stay in school retard.
>somebody just get in your home rape your childs steal everything and walk away happly
Are you actually implying that a community wouldn't do anything about this?
>not every boss is jewish.
going to ignore this because its nonsense
>jealous much ?
Well its just that all that money could go to feeding the homeless, providing cheap housing, and really just bettering the world.
>smells like std to me
smells like incel virgin to me
>basically work as much as you do now but get nothing return.
Do you mean besides assured housing, better quality of life and less time spent wagefagging in a factory for some faggot?
>drugs are bad for your health and if you do you are degenerate that need to be purged
o no not bad thing for my health mommy said drugs r bad I need the government to tell other people what to do because my mommy said please daddy government cuck me uwu
>you can get them even in walmart
try walking into Walmart and asking for an automatic weapon
because anarchy - individual rule
communism - collective rule ,both are extremes of each other and cant work together simultaneously , child.
Grow up
Faggot
no such thing as an-com, nigger
because if you're intellegent and have a semblance of creativity you can grow from poor to the 1% in your lifetime. Communism means if youre poor you stay poor
have you ever seen niggers op. Thats why this is a retarded idea
>anarchism is about the individual , his rights including free speech and gun rights and such
> communism is about giving your rights and dignity to the Jews , it's about the commune and no free speech and being raped by the Jew
Oxymoron bTFO nigra
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>communism
>anarchism
look at those two squares and tell me they are supposed to be friends
Because every iteration of communism ends in a bread line or labor camp.
please learn the difference between Stalinism and literally every other kind of communism thanks.
>There are always people in charge. What it comes down to is the right or the wrong people.
you're right, and those people will be selected based on their ability to perform their job. However, they will not be in any way BETTER than you in the way that a CEO is better than a wagefag.
>Do you imagine not having supervisors in a communist job?
No retard, see above.
>Do you imagine not having to work at all in a communist society?
Anyone who doesn't want to work will be removed, its a voluntary ideology after all.
Is it equally divided labour if your engineers and programmers are getting the paid the same wage as your secretaries and janitors, despite going to school for much longer and working much harder to master that knowledge?
I posted above about how a lot of people will trade security for money. Spending years in college in no way assures a well paying job.
>We have alcohol, tobacco, weed, and a huge list of pharma drugs, besides the openly available black market. We don't need cocaine and heroin in every corner store.
>America has more guns and more guns per person than any country in the world.
Daddy govt pls tell me what I can and cant own uwu
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Anarchists are to be bullied, but we're the only ones allowed to do so.
Who is the cat?
Anarcho communist is redundent.
Communism isn't supposed to have a government aka: anarchy.
The only reason you won't get a job in America is if you aren't good enough and you don't bring anything new to the table. So getting a job is a non-issue, so long as you constantly think of new ideas and innovate yourself. And if no one hires you, then start your own business. Instead of blaming others for not getting a job, it's about time you start blaming yourselves.
If someone works harder and smarter, they should deserve a higher pay. It should all be merit based, otherwise there is no incentive to do anything.
A completely regressive ideology.
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Anarcho-communism is internally inconsistent. You cannot overthrow the capitalists without a government. You cannot organize the economy in the way you describe without a government (or with a government, for that matter).
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How are you going to stop said raiders?
>No rulers
Horrible. People make bad decisions when left to their own devices
>No cunt boss
No, just a cunt society.
>No faggots born into rich families
They suck, but AnCom isn't a proper solution to that
>No wagefag related stress
There will be, otherwise things fall apart
>Incredible sexual social climate
Premarital sex is objectively harmful and socially catastrophic. We need to start shaming whores again. Gas yourself, degenerate
>Automation...
Automation will do this without abolishing governments
>Drugs
They're awful and should be banned
>Guns
The one okay point you've made, but I can have guns in almost any ideological state.
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what is voluntaryism
yall seriously need to read a book or at least do a five second google search
you realize that anarchists have been fighting Stalinism and authoritarian communism for longer than the nazis right
stalinism and authoritarian communism is to anarcho-communism as libertarian capitalism is to right fascism
>When it comes down to it, anyone who is part of a commune that is based on voluntary communism is going to be on board. If they arent, they can gtfo.
We already have this. It's called Africa. Turns out the whole "making penicillin" and "indoor plumbing" doesn't seem to happen
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>automation meme
neck yourself faggot
He's probably gonna pimp his 6 year old daughter out to them
It's all the fucking same cunt a failed system that only retards edge lords teenagers cling to like a rock in a stormy sea
Ok, when you faggots break into my furniture factory, bully my employees into quitting then steal my means of production, that's totally not authoritarianism.
Stalin was the closest Communism has come to being even remotely tolerable. Way to throw your best man under the bus.
Because we think your utopian idea is absurd and retarded cuck
in all fairness, the free territory of ukraine was crushed by the soviet union.
and i think very few here people would disagree when i say that the bolsheviks were evil and marx was a conartist.
the one thing i hate about most other anarchists is how they all line up to suck karl marx's dick like they're lining up for free iphones
>communism
>voluntary
lol, nigger.
>it's just like m-my vidya games!
Why are idpol fags so obsessed with media creations? The left think Trump is Voldemort and the right think ancoms are the bad guys from Fallout.
>implying that any woman would let him impregnate her
Because I'm not a pathetic little faggot.
Tribal living is a desirable lifestyle, it's hard in ways people can handle if they last the first few years and grow up with an immune system, and it's chilled out in ways people need.
Tribal people live to 100 more than civilised people do.
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They are educated and mentally trained by video games.
That's why they see processes like democracy as systems to hack with disinformation and call it 'meme wars'
>Anarcho Communism
You ask why we haven't converted to the notion that you can enforce individual property rights but at the same time declare that all property belongs to the Commune?
What are you a retard?
Their carrying capacity is also 100x greater so to have your tribal utopia would require the deaths of 6 billion+ people
You got me, he'd pimp out someone else's 6 year old, an orphan, perhaps
Don't let your memes be dreams. You're in the wrong place normie if you think Gommunism is going to work.
Communism, and the Frankfurt School in general, are ludicrous.
Communism is unachievable as there never will be a "post scarcity" society.
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This post, the very first post blew you the fuck out.user was right. Stay in school faggot. Let this thread die and save some of your dignity
Sage
I enjoy not starving to death
Do all engineers hate their jobs and wish they weren't in them?
All commies are retarded, shit didn't work years ago and it won't work now. I honestly feel bad for people who still hold so strongly to a dead ideology. Hanging on to same shit that was beaten into the ground by a superior system decades ago. Meanwhile were getting closer and closer to a technological singularity, commies actually think at some point we will turn around and accept their terrible ideas LMAO.
Take your lazy fucking asses and get a job/create a skill set. My god you are all just like the Marx jew who started it all. Bitching about wealth while never acquiring It, no morals, no practicality, can't pay for shit so bums around, parents disappointed in you. Meanwhile barely 2 years in my school and I'm already earning $19 an hour with benefits at a company and this isn't shit compared to what I'm capable of.
Yes we want to trade in this awesome system of opportunity for a shitty ass one where I must share with bums who are too lazy and unmotivated to do anything for themselves. Fuck off you pathetic wastes of air.
How very humane of you.
Individual property and public means of production are two completely different things retard
Because resources are limited and they must be divided and allocated in some way. i.e. Do we use our limited metal supplies to make bikes or computers? Even if there is enough to make both which gets made first and who in the community gets those items earlier than later? Now take this to food, shelter and books. Your free sex society supposedly ensuring everyone gets to have sex and blah blah. That's absurd, I own my body, I'm good looking and only want to sleep with good looking women. No one else has a right to my body and no one has a right to my labor.
Kys just make sure you don't do it in your parents house, you're already enough of a burden on them without them having to clean up your cockroach corpse.
U dell dem gommrad! Dey dus don't understand dat da ture gommunism has never ben tried yet. Once we reach da sdage too gomunism wen da fud is gone we will sho dem. The trick is dat de fud has to be gone befor da next sdage of gommunism is reached. Once all de grapitalist starve with no fud, den we finally reach da real gommunism. Yu excided gomrad!? A world wer everyone is da equal and dere is no culture other den gommunism. Wut an exciding world dat be gomrad!
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You're whining to me that your ideal world would cause mass starvation?
Good commie!
I did when I was a 15 year old idealist like you.
Then I grew up and learned things.
>shit didn't work years ago and it won't work now
Anarcho-communism has been working for centuries
>Yes we want to trade in this awesome system of opportunity for a shitty ass one where I must share with bums who are too lazy and unmotivated to do anything for themselves. Fuck off you pathetic wastes of air.
The laziness strawman is a pretty easy way out of a genuine argument, to be honest.
but what if the child consents tho
Why haven't you just fucking killed yourself yet?
Because nobody owns means of production
Hav yu reched da sdage too gommunism gomrad? Yu dont need da fud fur sdage too. Da beeple in my country hav reched da sdage too gommunism and they starving whithout da fud! We hope da sdage tree Benus to come so dat we can finally be beeple widh pure equalness. Dat wat da good buk by gomrad Marx say gomrad! Sdage tree going be gud gomrad!
when your retarded system only works with unlimited resources
based, and i'm a socialist, lol.
faggots need to to stop reading lies from marx.
also, kropotkin is ficking stupid
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Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd
If you can't own the means of production you don't own property. Land, tools of trade, legal rights are all means of production. If you can't own those, you don't respect property rights. Its as simple as that.
>Because resources are limited and they must be divided and allocated in some way.
Well maybe once upon a time yes, however now a days there are houses just sitting around waiting for someone to get enough money to pay for them, unbought food goes in the dumpster. We're way passed post-scarcity.
everything else in this comment is just utter nonsense. I literally never said anyone would be forced to sleep with anyone.
>We're way passed post-scarcity.
No, developed countries are parasitic to less developed ones.
What is capitalism
A toothbrush is individual property, a car is individual property.
A factory is private property, land is private property
please read book pls
couldnt both ancap and ancom exist at the same time with people choosing whatever economic system they want to live under if there was no government enforcing policies one way or the other?
couldnt you even use both at the same time depending on your interests, e.g. work for a privately owned cleaning service and subscribe to a privately owned home insurance company but shop at a communally owned food store and donate to a communally owned public park because that fits your needs?
and you could also be whatever other type of anarcho-whatever, e.g. go start a commune in the woods with your anarcho-primitivist mates, because there's no government saying you need to pay taxes and register an address or whatever stops people doing that right now in some countries, while people who don't want to live in a bush simply don't
>Anarcho-Communism
Because the Romans didn't do anything with their steam engine. We could have been on the moon a millenia ago.
If we had then technology would be at the level where that is actually possible and not the dumbest thingbposted on Sup Forums today. We could have machines do literally everything and every human on the planet could have rapidly manufactured terminator robot armies do literally everything for them. Reality would be a giant RTS where everyone just travels the stars mining asteroids for materials and doing literally anything they want, even fighting each other.
So where is the Communism in your retardation?
If the means of production are not communally owned then you're not a Communist. Sounds like someone's a retarded Libertarian.
>No food
>No money
>No Property
>No things